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The Russian Investigation and the corresponding lack of answers from the white house. The latest Developments Center on Paul Manafort and Julian Assange. When we left you last night manafort had just been accused in a court filing of repeatedly lying to investigators there by breaching his plea deal with the special counsel. Today this, Britains Guardian newspaper reporting manafort met secretly with assange several times in london. According to the guardian one such meeting took place around march 2017 weeks before wiki leaks released democratic emails. The guardian says it is unclear why manafort saw assange and what was discussed and should point out that both strongly deny the meeting ever took place at all. Manafort says he doesnt know assange. Separately cnn has learned team mueller has been looking into a meet manafort had last year with equ equidors president. Clearly any possible connections between the Trump Campaign and wiki leaks appear to be a focus for the special counsel. We already know what the president thought about wiki leaks during the campaign. This just came out. Wiki leaks, this stuff is unbelievable. Another came in today. This wiki leak is like a treasuretrove. They were announcing new wiki leaks. The president had nothing to say about wiki leaks today nor about the specifics of the case against Paul Manafort. This morning he went online and said the phony witch hunt continues but mueller and his gang of angry dems are only looking at one side and not the other. Wait until it comes out how horribly and viciously they are treating people. A few minutes later tweeted this. The Fake News Media builds bob mueller up as a saint when he is doing tremendous damage to our criminal Justice System where he is only looking at one side and not the other. Heroes will come of this and it wont be mueller and his angry gang of democrats. The witch hunt continues and they have nothing but ruined lives and finishes writing where is the server . Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation and Justice Department. Whatever you think of him, Robert Mueller actually is a war hero decorated for bravery in vietnam, a registered republican. The Justice Department has investigated Hillary Clintons emails. You might remember the coverage that we and others gave it at the time. In any case, the tweet certainly came up at todays White House Press briefing. Why is he tweeting so much about it . Certainly, the president has voiced his unhappiness from the beginning. This has gone on for more than two years, still nothing ties to the president. Nothing that ties anything to the president. And these words come up again and again, no collusion. She worked them into her answer when asked about the new manafort stories . The guardian is reporting that Paul Manafort met with Julian Assange. Im wondering if you know that the meeting took place and if you remain confident in the white houses repeated denials that Campaign Officials were involved in the discussions . Certainly, i remain confident in the white houses assertion that the president was involved in no wrong doing, was not part of any collusion. The things that have to do with p mr. Manafort i refer you to his attorneys. When jim acosta asked this listen to what happened. We can only speak to what our role is in that process and not only has the president but the entire administration has been fully cooperative with the special counsels office providing hours and hours of sit downs as well as over 4 million pages of documents. We continue to be cooperative but we know there was no collusion and we are ready for this to wrap up. No collusion. We have heard that many times from the president , the white house. It remains to be seen if we will hear that from Robert Mueller himself. The president tweeted another verbal attack similar to the ones from this morning. Jim acosta joins us from the white house. Sarah sanders kept responding noclusion. She appeared to be making a point of defending only the president this time and not his campaign. Thats right. I think that sound byte you just played demonstrates that pretty well. When she was asked whether or not they are still sticking with the story that there are no Campaign Officials involved in collusion with the russians, she said we are confident in the white houses assertion that the president was not involved in any wrong doing or collusion. That seems to leave some space, some room for what may be coming. That is possible new indictments of the Mueller Investigation and that full report which may lay out exactly what happened. My sense of it all day long during that briefing was that Sarah Sanders was being very careful, perhaps more careful than i have seen her before in answering the questions. Sarah sanders says they are ready for the Mueller Investigation to wrap up. She didnt say whether the president would encourage Paul Manafort to cooperate. She avoided recommending that Paul Manafort cooperate with the Mueller Investigation. She went on to say that the white house is cooperating and producing documents and answers and so on in the investigation. No question about it, a cynic out there could look at that answer and say not only is she not recommending that manafort cooperate with the Mueller Investigation, she could be sending the signal that he should not cooperate with the Mueller Investigation and that is the reason why there is so much speculation and conversation here in washington that a pardon offer has been dangled over Paul Manaforts head in some way, shape or form. When Sarah Sanders was asked about that she said she knew of no conversations about pardons going on inside the white house. We have breaking news on all of this, here is what the president s tv lawyer Rudy Giuliani told the wall street journal. Right now would not be the time. It would be misunderstood. It doesnt mean you give away your president ial prerogative to do it at the right time. Manafort should get the same consideration as anyone else. Got quite a group to talk about all of this. Is there a nonsketchy reason why Paul Manafort would have had meetings . Its a good question. Why else would he be there . What would he be doing . It was right about the time one of the meetings alleged to have taken place in the spring of 16. Wiki leaks had for several years been in the business of releasing classified information, so facilitating the unauthorized disclosure of really sensitive and high volume of classified and very sensitive u. S. Government diplomatic and classified information. So that is what we know and that is what he should have known at the time about wiki leaks. Whether or not there was some other nonnefarrious reason to be there, who knows . Also with respect to whether or not the meetings took place, he denies them. I would say these are verifiable facts. Investigations whether it is news organizations investigations or whether it is Law Enforcement and intelligence investigations when that information is revealed will determine whether he was there. You should point out, Julian Assange is hold up in the embassy. They want to see Julian Assange if he leaves they would assume they are very aware and reporting anybody who goes in and out. Right now we dont know the answer to whether it is true or not true. We have denials and reporting. It is verifiable and some point when the public will know whether or not this took place. If it took place it is significant. The government does seem to be fuming at a high volume. Very much so. I just spoke with somebody who spoke with the president recently and said he noticed that he is acting more scattered these days and i think its all related to the Mueller Investigation. How much the president knows about it and what is going on internally in that investigation, we do not know. We know he and his attorneys finished writing this round of answers to mueller questions. He didnt like the questions. I think that was difficult for him. Now he sees what is going on with manafort. He sees what is going on with roger stone. He sees this whole negotiatioti roger stones and wiki leaks and the questions being raised about what he knew about what roger stone knew about wiki leaks. I think it is really troubling to him because he doesnt know how this is going to spin out because nobody does. It is interesting, the 24 hours since mueller revoked the plea deal saying that manafort is a liar, the president hasnt thrown manafort under the bus at this point . He hasnt. A lot of speculation about whether he is thinking about pardoning him t. Was interesting in the Washington Post interview here, josh dossy asked that question, are you planning to do anything to help Paul Manafort. Trump says let me go off the record. He speaks off the record. He says is there any version of that you are willing to give us on the record . Trump said i would rather not. At some point i will talk on the record about it, but i would rather not. Who knows what he is saying off the record . What we do know on the record from what trump has said about Paul Manafort is he called him a brave man and compared him to Michael Cohen and said he didnt break in the way that Michael Cohen did. He said he had been treated unfairly, worse than alphonse capone. What is trump thinking in terms of Paul Manafort . In point on the pardon issue. This has happened before over the course of the investigation where we learned that the president is obtaining advice from his personal Legal Counsel about an official act, the act of using the Pardon Authority of the executive. That is actually significant. This is an official act. The question is he making official decisions using his executive Authority Based on his personal legal exposure . And thats actually a really significant thing when we think about the role that the president is supposed to play and the use of his executive authority, is he making decisions on his official capacity . Its not a crime for him to do that. Whether or not someone is impeached is a political factor. The improper yusz use of execut authority is something members of congress should take note of. We have not validated the reporting by the guardian. If your Campaign Manager when you were running for president was having meetings with Julian Assange, would that be appropriate in any realm . I cant imagine my Campaign Manager meeting with him or being in ecqequidor. I wouldnt want anything to do with someone like that who i saw as someone who is a threat to the United States and our own security. Do you see the president pardoning manafort . I would say if i was advising, i would say not to do so and not to even speculate about doing so. I think the president gets upset about these things. Everything as this investigation winds down, they are going to get closer to him because that is part of the whole process here. If he doesnt keep some temperament it is not going to play out well for him. I dont believe the president has been involved with any collusion. I dont think he knows anything about any russian i agree with Sarah Sanders and i dont think they have done anything to impede the investigation. The president has relatively clean hands other than the tweets out there criticizing mueller. I think he needs to let this process play out. It is going to whether he screams about it or not. I think when your former Campaign Manager and many former senior people who you have been affiliated with are under investigation you do have your hands dirty. The interesting player here is Julian Assange. He has been for a long time. He hasnt come up in a while. These emails were leaked through wiki leaks. There has been a leadership change. So there is a question raised in a little bit of reporting as to whether Julian Assange is extradited back to the United States. If he is maybe there is more we can know. Also was a reference to russian operatives visiting him. There certainly is more there. If he is extradited back we will probably learn more. There is the whole timing of the releases of the emails in the wake of the access hollywood tape. There certainly is. As we remember from the timing as you were reporting from here, the timing of when the meeting was, when the tweets were going out about a reference to troubling emails coming out. This was all leading up to the convention. A lot of this was dumped in times that were convenient for trump. If you lineup the timeline, a lot of this looks not great for them, to put it mildly. We also know that roger stone was said publicly that he had a conversation with donald trump. That was a day after apparently he was emailing about Julian Assange. To the president s temperament or mood or whatever we were talking about before, the circle is closing here. I think it has to worry the president because he did communicate are roger stone unless roger stone is lying about it which is a possibility. That is the counter argument that roger stone has a lot of bluster and issues that he may not have direct knowledge. And not a lot of credibility. Now Paul Manafort has no more credibility as a witness at all because there is an entire cast of characters here who are not credible. These are not truth telling people. They have repeatedly lied to investigators. Nearly everybody charged in the special counsels investigation has included some kind of charge of lying to federal investigators or prosecutors. Paul manafort experienced back before his virginia trial he had been pulled back from his supervised release because he was accused of witness tampering and making false statements. He had been witness tampering, writing opeds. Does it surprise you the number of people who have lied to investigators in this case . It has been a number of people charged with lying. It speaks to the type of people. These were many people aff affiliated with the Trump Campaign. One has to say that is a lot of people. Im not a lawyer, but you hear one individual lying. It just seems like that was the kind of goto thing to just lie. It is and knowing that this is a major enterprise investigation, the fact that all of these people and this far into the investigation continue to lie to investigators i think is definitely notable. So that is definitely a pattern that has taken place. We are going to take a quick break. The breaking news the president made when he spoke with the Washington Post including why he does not believe his own experts on global warming. We will get a look at the Senate Runoff in mississippi. So, that goal youve been saving for, you can do it. We can do this. At fidelity, our online planning tools are clear and straightforward so you can plan for retirement while saving for the things you want to do today. Whoo while saving for the things [deep breath] i receive travel rewards. I visualize travel rewards. Going new places going out for a bite going anytime. Rewarded learn more at the explorer card dot com. Little things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis differently. With otezla,75 clearer skin is achievable. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. It may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. Otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. Tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. Some people taking otezla reported weight loss. Your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. Upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. Tell your doctor about your medicines and if youre pregnant or planning to be. Otezla. Show more of you. Theres no excuse for its a hate crime. You. Its a miracle he survived. Argh i got your back. Based on an inspirational true story. They knocked me down, but ive created a world where i can heal. Hey, looking good. Welcome to marwen. I got dreams in my head and they wont go welcome to healing. You need to face those jerks who beat you up. Welcome to hope. I have my friends, and they cant take that away from me. Hell yeah. Woohoo after bills back needed a vacation from his vacation. So he stepped on the dr. Scholls kiosk. It recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain so you can move more. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Yaaaayyy aww. Yaaaayyy aww. Yaaaayyy aww. We hide hotel names, so you can find four star hotels at two star prices. Hotwire hotwire. Com Russian Investigation<\/a> and the corresponding lack of answers from the white house. The latest Developments Center<\/a> on Paul Manafort<\/a> and Julian Assange<\/a>. When we left you last night manafort had just been accused in a court filing of repeatedly lying to investigators there by breaching his plea deal with the special counsel. Today this, Britains Guardian<\/a> newspaper reporting manafort met secretly with assange several times in london. According to the guardian one such meeting took place around march 2017 weeks before wiki leaks released democratic emails. The guardian says it is unclear why manafort saw assange and what was discussed and should point out that both strongly deny the meeting ever took place at all. Manafort says he doesnt know assange. Separately cnn has learned team mueller has been looking into a meet manafort had last year with equ equidors president. Clearly any possible connections between the Trump Campaign<\/a> and wiki leaks appear to be a focus for the special counsel. We already know what the president thought about wiki leaks during the campaign. This just came out. Wiki leaks, this stuff is unbelievable. Another came in today. This wiki leak is like a treasuretrove. They were announcing new wiki leaks. The president had nothing to say about wiki leaks today nor about the specifics of the case against Paul Manafort<\/a>. This morning he went online and said the phony witch hunt continues but mueller and his gang of angry dems are only looking at one side and not the other. Wait until it comes out how horribly and viciously they are treating people. A few minutes later tweeted this. The Fake News Media<\/a> builds bob mueller up as a saint when he is doing tremendous damage to our criminal Justice System<\/a> where he is only looking at one side and not the other. Heroes will come of this and it wont be mueller and his angry gang of democrats. The witch hunt continues and they have nothing but ruined lives and finishes writing where is the server . Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation<\/a> and Justice Department<\/a>. Whatever you think of him, Robert Mueller<\/a> actually is a war hero decorated for bravery in vietnam, a registered republican. The Justice Department<\/a> has investigated Hillary Clintons<\/a> emails. You might remember the coverage that we and others gave it at the time. In any case, the tweet certainly came up at todays White House Press<\/a> briefing. Why is he tweeting so much about it . Certainly, the president has voiced his unhappiness from the beginning. This has gone on for more than two years, still nothing ties to the president. Nothing that ties anything to the president. And these words come up again and again, no collusion. She worked them into her answer when asked about the new manafort stories . The guardian is reporting that Paul Manafort<\/a> met with Julian Assange<\/a>. Im wondering if you know that the meeting took place and if you remain confident in the white houses repeated denials that Campaign Officials<\/a> were involved in the discussions . Certainly, i remain confident in the white houses assertion that the president was involved in no wrong doing, was not part of any collusion. The things that have to do with p mr. Manafort i refer you to his attorneys. When jim acosta asked this listen to what happened. We can only speak to what our role is in that process and not only has the president but the entire administration has been fully cooperative with the special counsels office providing hours and hours of sit downs as well as over 4 million pages of documents. We continue to be cooperative but we know there was no collusion and we are ready for this to wrap up. No collusion. We have heard that many times from the president , the white house. It remains to be seen if we will hear that from Robert Mueller<\/a> himself. The president tweeted another verbal attack similar to the ones from this morning. Jim acosta joins us from the white house. Sarah sanders kept responding noclusion. She appeared to be making a point of defending only the president this time and not his campaign. Thats right. I think that sound byte you just played demonstrates that pretty well. When she was asked whether or not they are still sticking with the story that there are no Campaign Officials<\/a> involved in collusion with the russians, she said we are confident in the white houses assertion that the president was not involved in any wrong doing or collusion. That seems to leave some space, some room for what may be coming. That is possible new indictments of the Mueller Investigation<\/a> and that full report which may lay out exactly what happened. My sense of it all day long during that briefing was that Sarah Sanders<\/a> was being very careful, perhaps more careful than i have seen her before in answering the questions. Sarah sanders says they are ready for the Mueller Investigation<\/a> to wrap up. She didnt say whether the president would encourage Paul Manafort<\/a> to cooperate. She avoided recommending that Paul Manafort<\/a> cooperate with the Mueller Investigation<\/a>. She went on to say that the white house is cooperating and producing documents and answers and so on in the investigation. No question about it, a cynic out there could look at that answer and say not only is she not recommending that manafort cooperate with the Mueller Investigation<\/a>, she could be sending the signal that he should not cooperate with the Mueller Investigation<\/a> and that is the reason why there is so much speculation and conversation here in washington that a pardon offer has been dangled over Paul Manafort<\/a>s head in some way, shape or form. When Sarah Sanders<\/a> was asked about that she said she knew of no conversations about pardons going on inside the white house. We have breaking news on all of this, here is what the president s tv lawyer Rudy Giuliani<\/a> told the wall street journal. Right now would not be the time. It would be misunderstood. It doesnt mean you give away your president ial prerogative to do it at the right time. Manafort should get the same consideration as anyone else. Got quite a group to talk about all of this. Is there a nonsketchy reason why Paul Manafort<\/a> would have had meetings . Its a good question. Why else would he be there . What would he be doing . It was right about the time one of the meetings alleged to have taken place in the spring of 16. Wiki leaks had for several years been in the business of releasing classified information, so facilitating the unauthorized disclosure of really sensitive and high volume of classified and very sensitive u. S. Government diplomatic and classified information. So that is what we know and that is what he should have known at the time about wiki leaks. Whether or not there was some other nonnefarrious reason to be there, who knows . Also with respect to whether or not the meetings took place, he denies them. I would say these are verifiable facts. Investigations whether it is news organizations investigations or whether it is Law Enforcement<\/a> and intelligence investigations when that information is revealed will determine whether he was there. You should point out, Julian Assange<\/a> is hold up in the embassy. They want to see Julian Assange<\/a> if he leaves they would assume they are very aware and reporting anybody who goes in and out. Right now we dont know the answer to whether it is true or not true. We have denials and reporting. It is verifiable and some point when the public will know whether or not this took place. If it took place it is significant. The government does seem to be fuming at a high volume. Very much so. I just spoke with somebody who spoke with the president recently and said he noticed that he is acting more scattered these days and i think its all related to the Mueller Investigation<\/a>. How much the president knows about it and what is going on internally in that investigation, we do not know. We know he and his attorneys finished writing this round of answers to mueller questions. He didnt like the questions. I think that was difficult for him. Now he sees what is going on with manafort. He sees what is going on with roger stone. He sees this whole negotiatioti roger stones and wiki leaks and the questions being raised about what he knew about what roger stone knew about wiki leaks. I think it is really troubling to him because he doesnt know how this is going to spin out because nobody does. It is interesting, the 24 hours since mueller revoked the plea deal saying that manafort is a liar, the president hasnt thrown manafort under the bus at this point . He hasnt. A lot of speculation about whether he is thinking about pardoning him t. Was interesting in the Washington Post<\/a> interview here, josh dossy asked that question, are you planning to do anything to help Paul Manafort<\/a>. Trump says let me go off the record. He speaks off the record. He says is there any version of that you are willing to give us on the record . Trump said i would rather not. At some point i will talk on the record about it, but i would rather not. Who knows what he is saying off the record . What we do know on the record from what trump has said about Paul Manafort<\/a> is he called him a brave man and compared him to Michael Cohen<\/a> and said he didnt break in the way that Michael Cohen<\/a> did. He said he had been treated unfairly, worse than alphonse capone. What is trump thinking in terms of Paul Manafort<\/a> . In point on the pardon issue. This has happened before over the course of the investigation where we learned that the president is obtaining advice from his personal Legal Counsel<\/a> about an official act, the act of using the Pardon Authority<\/a> of the executive. That is actually significant. This is an official act. The question is he making official decisions using his executive Authority Based<\/a> on his personal legal exposure . And thats actually a really significant thing when we think about the role that the president is supposed to play and the use of his executive authority, is he making decisions on his official capacity . Its not a crime for him to do that. Whether or not someone is impeached is a political factor. The improper yusz use of execut authority is something members of congress should take note of. We have not validated the reporting by the guardian. If your Campaign Manager<\/a> when you were running for president was having meetings with Julian Assange<\/a>, would that be appropriate in any realm . I cant imagine my Campaign Manager<\/a> meeting with him or being in ecqequidor. I wouldnt want anything to do with someone like that who i saw as someone who is a threat to the United States<\/a> and our own security. Do you see the president pardoning manafort . I would say if i was advising, i would say not to do so and not to even speculate about doing so. I think the president gets upset about these things. Everything as this investigation winds down, they are going to get closer to him because that is part of the whole process here. If he doesnt keep some temperament it is not going to play out well for him. I dont believe the president has been involved with any collusion. I dont think he knows anything about any russian i agree with Sarah Sanders<\/a> and i dont think they have done anything to impede the investigation. The president has relatively clean hands other than the tweets out there criticizing mueller. I think he needs to let this process play out. It is going to whether he screams about it or not. I think when your former Campaign Manager<\/a> and many former senior people who you have been affiliated with are under investigation you do have your hands dirty. The interesting player here is Julian Assange<\/a>. He has been for a long time. He hasnt come up in a while. These emails were leaked through wiki leaks. There has been a leadership change. So there is a question raised in a little bit of reporting as to whether Julian Assange<\/a> is extradited back to the United States<\/a>. If he is maybe there is more we can know. Also was a reference to russian operatives visiting him. There certainly is more there. If he is extradited back we will probably learn more. There is the whole timing of the releases of the emails in the wake of the access hollywood tape. There certainly is. As we remember from the timing as you were reporting from here, the timing of when the meeting was, when the tweets were going out about a reference to troubling emails coming out. This was all leading up to the convention. A lot of this was dumped in times that were convenient for trump. If you lineup the timeline, a lot of this looks not great for them, to put it mildly. We also know that roger stone was said publicly that he had a conversation with donald trump. That was a day after apparently he was emailing about Julian Assange<\/a>. To the president s temperament or mood or whatever we were talking about before, the circle is closing here. I think it has to worry the president because he did communicate are roger stone unless roger stone is lying about it which is a possibility. That is the counter argument that roger stone has a lot of bluster and issues that he may not have direct knowledge. And not a lot of credibility. Now Paul Manafort<\/a> has no more credibility as a witness at all because there is an entire cast of characters here who are not credible. These are not truth telling people. They have repeatedly lied to investigators. Nearly everybody charged in the special counsels investigation has included some kind of charge of lying to federal investigators or prosecutors. Paul manafort experienced back before his virginia trial he had been pulled back from his supervised release because he was accused of witness tampering and making false statements. He had been witness tampering, writing opeds. Does it surprise you the number of people who have lied to investigators in this case . It has been a number of people charged with lying. It speaks to the type of people. These were many people aff affiliated with the Trump Campaign<\/a>. One has to say that is a lot of people. Im not a lawyer, but you hear one individual lying. It just seems like that was the kind of goto thing to just lie. It is and knowing that this is a major enterprise investigation, the fact that all of these people and this far into the investigation continue to lie to investigators i think is definitely notable. So that is definitely a pattern that has taken place. We are going to take a quick break. The breaking news the president made when he spoke with the Washington Post<\/a> including why he does not believe his own experts on global warming. We will get a look at the Senate Runoff<\/a> in mississippi. So, that goal youve been saving for, you can do it. We can do this. At fidelity, our online planning tools are clear and straightforward so you can plan for retirement while saving for the things you want to do today. Whoo while saving for the things [deep breath] i receive travel rewards. I visualize travel rewards. Going new places going out for a bite going anytime. Rewarded learn more at the explorer card dot com. Little things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis<\/a> differently. With otezla,75 clearer skin is achievable. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. It may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. Otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. Tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. Some people taking otezla reported weight loss. Your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. Upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. Tell your doctor about your medicines and if youre pregnant or planning to be. Otezla. Show more of you. Theres no excuse for its a hate crime. You. Its a miracle he survived. Argh i got your back. Based on an inspirational true story. They knocked me down, but ive created a world where i can heal. Hey, looking good. Welcome to marwen. I got dreams in my head and they wont go welcome to healing. You need to face those jerks who beat you up. Welcome to hope. I have my friends, and they cant take that away from me. Hell yeah. Woohoo after bills back needed a vacation from his vacation. So he stepped on the dr. Scholls kiosk. It recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain so you can move more. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Yaaaayyy aww. Yaaaayyy aww. Yaaaayyy aww. We hide hotel names, so you can find four star hotels at two star prices. Hotwire hotwire. Com President Trump<\/a> sat down with a newspaper he loves to hate and gave it a real five scoop sundof news. Undoing deals, he said are not being accommodated by the fed. He said i have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anyone elses brain can tell me. The president said in the wake of the conflict he has yet to decide whether he will meet with Vladimir Putin<\/a> at the upcoming summit. He refused to blame saudi crown prince. He explained his skepticism of his administrations report on climate change. I want to read it for you all of it so you can make up your own words about climate change. He says one of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence but we are not such believers. You look at our air and our water and it is right now at a record clean. He continued, when you look at china and you look at parts of asia and south america and when you look at many other places in the world including russia and many other places the air is incredibly dirty. When you are talking about an atmosphere oceans are very small and it blows over and sales over. We take thousands of tons of garbage off our beaches all the time that comes from asia. It flows down the pacific. It flows and we say where does it come from . It takes many people to start off with. One thing we should add is senator sentorum as a whisperrer of the president , can you interpret what he is saying here . I cant really interpret this other than to say that he i think more than i have ever heard him do before expressed skepticism that man has anything to do with climate change. He has said it is a hoax in the past. He has walked back from those hoax comments. He i thought was pretty clear here that he does not at all agree with the notion that it is agreed upon by all these scientists that man contributes to climate change. I think it is clear what he was saying, making some assumptions here. He is saying we have done a good job in this country reducing air emissions and cleaning up things. The places that are really bad, india, china, these dont apply to them. They are not doing anything on that front. Have them clean up their act instead of trying to impose incredible restrictions on an economy that is pretty Energy Efficient<\/a> and clean economy. I think that is the point he is trying to make and it is a legitimate point. Its not legitimate. The United States<\/a> and china are the two largest emitters of greenhouse gas. Its a universal global problem. We are the only country not signed on to the paris climate agreement. His reference to other countries and their emissions shows he doesnt understand that like the sky covers all of us and what they do impacts us. So the fact that the United States<\/a> doesnt sign on to this doesnt stop china from doing things. Just from an economics standpoint, the administrations own report does go into great detail about the economic costs. They say hundreds of billions of dollars lost. Its absurd. You cant tell us what the gdp is going to be next year. They are predicting because of this there will be a ten percent reduction. Its like 0. 05 per year reduction in economic growth. The point is its speculative. Its almost i said 0. 05 change in economic growth. That can be from any kind of elimination of regulation, improving the growth rate. Look what donald trump has done to improve growth in this country. There is a reason that 97 of scientists feel this is a huge problem. All the predictions have been wrong. All of them. The reality is people are seeing the impact already. Its not a problem we havent seen. If you talk to people in the ever glades, in california, in parts of the middle east where famine is rising because of the heat, these are real issues that are happening now. This report we have had famines before, heat waves. Arent there you go back and look at weather history. We have had fluctuations in weather patterns forever. The idea that the california wild fires are because of climate change, the California Wildfires<\/a> is because they didnt clean the floor of the forest. They didnt manage the forest. You are with the raking its a matter of going in there and managing the forests which republicans have been talking about for a long, long time and the strict environmentalists have said leave it alone. I think its something everybody ought to investigate. Maybe you need to manage forests and look at other issues. This is the president s own government saying this in a unanimous way. What is the motivation . Are they all just lying . Here is the reality. I said this the other day. I have gotten i have become a very popular man on twitter for the comment i made about scientists making money. There would be no chair at the head of climate studies at every university in america if we didnt have a crisis. These people make money because there is a crisis. I dont think Climate Science<\/a> is a big high money area. There were no chairs. Your critics will say you are also making money off of this. I am involved in promoting ethanol which reduces co 2. I am involved with a waste Energy Company<\/a> that tries to do something productive with our waste instead of sticking it in a landfall. I support green technology. It has to be market based. The great thing that we can do is keep the economy of this country thriving and produce more technologies. I want my kids to live in a very clean and wonderful world. I dont want climate disaster. Putting government regulation over industry is not going to solve the problem. We will talk to one of the scientists who is involved in the report. It is interesting when you hear the president talk about his gut. I think for this president he does believe his gut tells him more than many peoples dreams. The one thing he points to is how he won the election which is that all of us were wrong. The polls were wrong. In his gut, there were moments of doubt although he would probably never admit it. He said i was going to win because i knew how the people felt out there. Dont forget, he is a very successful entertainer. He knows how to attract audiences. He knows the works and the place. He trusts himself probably for some good reason, but when you are talking about science, who can really trust your gut . You have to know things. I dont pretend to know all of these things. Neither should the president of the United States<\/a>. You have to learn. The other thing he does in this interview basically takes no responsibility for the gm layoffs, obviously took a lot of credit for rising stock market. Is that how it works . I think he recognizes that the gm layoffs are a huge problem for him. He knows his own brand and his brand was when he was running in 2016. He promised to bring back manufacturing jobs, that none of these offices that are closing would close. Thats obviously not true. And so he recognizes that and thats why he is trying to push off the blame on to gm and to the fed. The economy and the economy booming and having a good economy is the way he gets reelected. I would say i worked on many president ial elections, but a first election and a reelect. It is hard for a couple of reasons. One is that people look at what your record is and what you promised and whether you did it. This is a place where white collar workers are going to look at his promises and say my factory closed. I dont have a job. Isnt that Old Fashioned<\/a> . I think that this is one of the reasons why he got elected and this is the core of his message. He knows this is a huge problem. Donald trump shouldnt worry so much about gm. Factories will close. I dont think he can he didnt campaign and say no factory will close. The manufacturing will come back. Everybody has to agree. Manufacturing has come back. We have seen a tremendous growth in that sector. I think he should have pivoted which is not something donald trump is particularly good at and said look at the numbers and the manufacturing and the job creation we have created and not worry about every single factor. He wanted to act tough on gm because i think he understood you cant promise that. Its not necessarily Donald Trumps<\/a> fault that this is happening. He understood that it was politically perilous. The polls are closed in a runoff election. John king with a preview of what he is watching tonight in mississippi. This is Dell Cinema Technology<\/a> uninterrupted streaming Brilliant Sound<\/a> clarity and lifelike color. Experience dell cinema on the xps 13. Shop the biggest cyber week ever at dell. Com intel chime hey, guys, get something for nana. Brian thomas yeah. Hey hey, uh, quick question. Do you like paying for things you dont need . No. And do you want to get things you love for free . Who wouldnt . Exactly right. 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Coricidin hbp is the 1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your Blood Pressure<\/a>. Coricidin hbp. The counting is underway tonight in mississippi. The relative lack of polling going into this and the trump factor and race and history and a lot more john king is here to show us how it all could come together. The polls just closed. What are the results so far . Very, very, very preliminary results. About one percent reporting. You see it just went up, 9,000 votes. Mike espy holding a narrow lead. It was smaller a little bit ago. Read almost nothing into this. Lets take a little bit of what we are going to see here. You see the little bit that is in is coming in blue. That is what has to happen for mike espy. He was a former clinton cabinet member. This was his district over here in this side of the state. Lets go back to three weeks ago. We are having the runoff tonight. Cindy hyde smith got 41 . Mike espy got just below that, 41 . Top two move on to tonight. Mike espy did run it up in this part of the state three weeks ago. This is what he has to do again tonight and i would argue by bigger numbers. If you look at the republican vote, 41 for the incumbent Cindy Hyde Smith<\/a>. If those republican votes go to the republican incumbent it is game over. Mike espy has to somehow find a way. Lets go back to tonights map and find a way to cut into the white vote. Thats a complicated challenge. We look at the map now. It tells us just about nothing. One of the things we are going to look at. You have to go back to way before this technology existed to find a competitive democrat in mississippi in a senate race. Lets just look up here. De soto county a little shy of six percent of the state population. Cindy hyde smith getting a little over 50 . That is interesting if it holds. Lets just go back three weeks ago. Mike espy got only 34 in this county. You see the tea party vote was 24 . You would assume most of that would go here. If it goes there then mike espy can keep it competitive. We are at 17 . This could be mostly from a democratic precinct so he is running close so far. It could be very different. We will watch it fill in throughout the night. Republicans think they will win this race by six, seven or eight points. They are nervous. That is why the president went in there twice last night. Thanks. Well check in with you shortly. David, what are you looking for in terms of the results as they come in . What john was saying if the africanamerican turnout can be supercharged in a way that can keep espy in the fight here. That is one thing im looking for. Because what we saw in the mid terms and what we saw quite frankly throughout 2017 and 18 is this ability for turnout especially on the democratic side to be supercharged. If that can happen here then espy has a chance here. I cant wrap my head around anderson. We are three weeks after the election. We are just after the thanksgiving holiday weekend. For voters to be back in the mindset of what we saw three weeks ago with recordsetting kind of turnout, to me i think is a very tough challenge. Also, obviously issues of race have been involved in the campaign throughout. In mississippis history race has been involved in campaigns and politics. It is the dividing line in that state. It determines why republicans you saw mike espy in the First Campaign<\/a> give out 15 of the white vote. He probably needs about 30 of the white vote to actually be competitive. Over the last many cycles we have just seen democrats unable to get anywhere near that. Doug jones was able to get that in that race in alabama. In these southern states, its just hard for democrats to get white voters to vote for them. Its also true that democrats dont really have any infrastructure down in a state like mississippi. Its not a state like georgia that has been doing some ground work there registering voters. Its really left for dead by democrats. I think that will really affect them tonight. There are obviously democrats hoping for a doug jones style victory. This is a different race. Its a very different race. You look at roy moore who was accused as an adult of having sexual relationships with teenage girls. That is a strike against you. Even though Cindy Hyde Smith<\/a> has been a very imperfect candidate, there is nothing reaching. That was a real problem for them. This is a more rural state. Also, the rnc, to your point, has been really getting a get out the vote effort tlm. There was a report that they had more than 100 people on the ground today because they dont want this to become alabama. Its not likely that it will. They are really making sure that it wont. This is not going to change the balance of power in the senate. I think Cindy Hyde Smith<\/a> will win this race. This is not going to be a great night for republicans. If we end up winning this by six or seven points, that is just more of the same from election day. So again message to the white house that this the side show that goes on every day in the white house has a corrosive effect on our ability to win races. And i think one of the reasons many republicans would love the Mueller Probe<\/a> to just be over is just so we can get this huge distraction which preoccupies the president s time and drives the media, all of us. We would be talking about a lot of different things. We spent most of the time tonight talking about donald trump talking about mueller instead of other issues that may have fit in that could have been important to drive a different message on the white house. Message to the white house, the president that the continued fixation on this scandal is having electoral consequences now with 40 house seats. Thats a wave, ladies and gentlemen. This race is close. Warning signs. Regardless, history will be made tonight. If she wins she would be the first woman elected to the senate to congress from mississippi. If he does he will be the first africanamerican u. S. Senator since reconstruction. Its a really interesting race for a number of reasons. Its a little of an echo. There is not a lot of democratic activism there that has happened over the years. Espy is running in a conservative state. Even though the race is a lot about race he has been very careful about how he has gone after Cindy Hyde Smith<\/a>. Even one of his closing ads was about how she might embarrass the state and not about how she was a person who was racist. As i think everybody on the panel has alluded to he needs to have huge africanamerican turnout, he hasnt tapped into that issue. He is an africanamerican candidate which would make history. He has brought in harris and booker. Whether surrogates can energize the africanamerican population there right after thanksgiving is very difficult to do. I want to thank everybody. 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Today the White House Press<\/a> briefing bolton was asked if he listened to the recording. No, i havent listened to it. I guess i should ask you why do you think i should . What do you think ill learn from it . Youre the National Security<\/a> adviser. You might have access to that sort of intelligence. How many in this room speak arabic . Do you have access to an interpreter . If they were speaking korean i wouldnt learn any more from it either. Then i can read a transcript too. Joining me is former director of National Security<\/a> intelligence and senior National Security<\/a> analyst James Clapper<\/a>. Does what john bolton said make sense to you . Though helping me not speak arabic, it may be informative in terms of learning actually what happened. As an intelligence guy, i would certainly want to listen to the tape. Not for voiristic purposes, but as important as this did not was, seems to me if you were pursuing every scrap of information, every morsel of data that would cast light on what happened that you would want to listen to that tape regardless of the language, just to hear the emotion and the atmospherics of the last moments of somebodys life. Even from a journalistic standpoint, you get the sense of how quickly it happened, how long it went, whatever. The point he was trying to make, i guess, in literal unemotional context that he doesnt speak arabic, well, i think you would, and again, as an intelligence guy, i would want to dwell on every morsel of information i could that would cast light on the whole. Event one of the things that the president has said in that interview with the Washington Post<\/a> is he asserted the cia did not affirmatively say it was the crown prince who ordered the killing of khashoggi. Thats not necessarily thousand cia works, is it . No, it isnt. And i think this is illustrative, pretty good illustration of the evidentiary bar often used by the president. When the Intelligence Community<\/a> comes out and says they have high confidence in an assessment, you can take that to the bank. Short of a video reflecting Mohammed Bin Salman<\/a> giving the order to kill the journalist, youre probably not going to get that. But im sure that the compilation and correlation of data from several sources, plus an understanding of how things work in saudi arabia, its going to led to that high confidence level that Mohammed Bin Salman<\/a> was not only implicated, was knowledgeable, but directed this killing. Its unthinkable given how saudi arabia works that this huge team involving a surgeon, a hit squad, would have Carte Blanche<\/a> to walk into an embassy that are the righthand people of Mohammed Bin Salman<\/a>. On its face the circumstantial evidence in and of itself is very compelling, and its just completely unrealistic or people are gullible to think that didnt have some connection with Mohammed Bin Salman<\/a> who oversees all things big and small in the republic. Bob corker basically is calling on the cia director to come and brief senators on the killing. Theres no indication that shes going to and bolton was asked about that today. He denies shes being blocked from doing so. But should she go . Absolutely. Anytime theres an event like this that has huge implications for the relationship, as heavily dependent on intelligence for our insight into what happened, there should be a senior, dan coats. Why do they want her to go . You can surmise that perhaps the intelligence evidence is so compelling that the administration doesnt want to share that with congress. They want to bury this . Thats one inference you can draw. George clapper, thank you for being with us. I want to check with in w chris for cuomo primetime. Were going to piggy back on the election results. Were about an hour past the polls being closed in mississippi, so the numbers are going to start coming in. Well follow your lead and will be reporting that for people in realtime. Were also going to go very deep on these emails that cnn obtained and these pleadings from the government about mr. Corsi, dr. Jerome corsi, a friend associate lets say of roger stone and what pieces of the puzzle of the probe we now understand much better. And then of course theres a massive speculation surrounding Paul Manafort<\/a>. Well get into that as well. The 12th annual cnn heroes coming up december 9th. You can find outlet about the top ten cnn heroes and vote at cnnheroes. Com. Since today is giving tuesday, we also wanted to show you how you can help some of these heroes continue their work. So take a look. Im Anderson Cooper<\/a>. 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The times tributes it to one of the president s lawyers and two others familiar with the conversations. Now according to the times report, some legal experts speculated this was a bid by manafort for a president ial pardon. A reminder, dont miss full circle on facebook. Its new. You get all the details, watch it week nights 6 25 p. M. Eastern orphan facebook. Com Anderson Cooper<\/a> full circle. News continues with andrew cuomo. Cuomo primetime starts. Welcome to primetime on another big election night. No more speculating. The polls have closed in mississippi. The vote is coming in right now. This is the final senate race of the 2018 midterms, and it will be decided likely on our watch. The big question, can republicans keep a crucial seat in what is certainly a ruby red state . Or is there going to be another historic update tonight . And well going from that story and youll see on the bottom of the your screen what the vote is. However, were going deep on this other story. 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