I can worry about it, or doe. Something about it. Garlique helps maintain healthy cholesterol naturally, and its odorfree, and pharmacist recommended. Garlique good evening, amy klobachar, joins us tonight, so as former white house aide. We continue with a deal spending relatively small amount of money on a border. The president talked about the compromise today he would not commit in signing it. Our reporting suggests that he will. He also said this about the longest shutdown ever, no, it is not factually correct. I accepted the first one and i am proud of what we have accomplished. People learned during that shutdown. All about the problems coming in from the border. It did not last long. He did offer to accept responsibilities for the shutdown. I am proud to shutdown the government for Border Security because the people of this country dont want criminals and people that have a lot of problems and drugs pouring into the country. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I am not going to blame you for it. I am proud to shutdown the government. Thats where he started as harry truman once put it. As the week went by, that changed, he says the books stop at everybody. At one point he didnt even call it a shutdown. I call it whatever you have to do for the betterment of our country. You can call it pelosi or trumps shutdown, it is just words. The president did not circle back to them today, he came close and painting it as a valuable lesson to the public. I accepted the first one and i am proud of what we have accomplished because people learn during that shutdown. All about the problems coming in from the southern border. Well, the president there is alluding to the privilege that all president s enjoyed. That privilege comes with responsibility of actually doing it accurately and factually and truthfully. What americans have learned about the president about the border and all legitimate problems associated with it was misleading or flat out false or contradicted in my cases. Thats one aspect of what people learn from the shutdown from the president. How to absorb the untruth from another. These are people we talked to on this program. They learn to go without pay or worst go to work everyday and stressful and sometimes life or death jobs without a paycheck coming in. Some even have yet to see their back wages, 800,000 government worker and many Government Contractors who may never see a dime. The president says hes proud of what hes accomplished. It is unclear by his own terms of what he really accomplished . Back in december before the shutdown, the president turned down a proposed 1. 6 billion for 65 miles of fencing. January 4th, the president threatened to keep the shutdown going for months or years if he did not get the 5. 7 billion and 200 miles he wanted. After all of that, what did the president get . Well, this new deal provides a little less than 1. 4 billion for just 55 miles of newber barr fencing. The president is radioiight. It is certainly has been a learning experience. Jim acosta is joining us at the white house. Do we know if the president is going to sign this deal . Reporter thats a question tonight anderson. I did talk to a white house official, the indication is the president is likely to sign this legislation to keep the government open and preventing another costly shutdown. Theyre still reviewing the details at this hour. I am told by aides until they review this. The president tweeted in the last hour, he was presented the concepts and parameters by senator Richard Shelby and looking at all aspects and knowing that this will be hooked up with a lot of other sources and getting 20 billion, non wall money thats in the bill. Regardless of the wall money, it is being built as we speak. We know they only repaired fencing so far. Theyre not going to Start Building new walls until later on this month. Andreas lubi anderson, i did bounce this tweet off from a white house official, this person says this is encouraging, reading between the lines and the president s tweet, it sounds like hes going to sign this deal but President Trump being President Trump, all bets are off. Where would the extra funding from the wall or barrier come from . Thats something thats discussed inside the administration. And mulvaney, he had been going looking under the sofa for loose change. No, i am kidding. Theyre going through agencies and government to see where they can find money. We know Congress Appropriates these money. They are looking for funds in areas like nature crcotics or m that could be designated for wall construction and thats something they are looking at this point. Nothing is finalized. Anderson, it seems as though members of congress on capitol hill, they made up their minds and gotten this legislation to the president s desk. The question is at this point, whether or not the president is going to sign off on this. The longer he hates, even though he says earlier today, if the government shuts down again, the longer he creates this cliff hanger or essentially at the edge of your seat entertainment here as to whether or not hes going to sign this bill. Thats going to put the pressure onto the president to sign this and it is going to make it all about him which i dont think they want much from the white house. Is there a plan b . At this point, no. There is a potential they could come up with a continued resolution that gets the government running a little while longer. It could be any particular stretch of time thats not decided. Thats another option they are looking at. That would kick the can for another brief period of time where you can end up right back to the same place where the Border Security deal which has been worked out by democrats and republicans on this conference committee, thats seen by both republicans and democrats as the way to go. As long as the president drags this out, he makes this about him and i dont think thats a place where a lot of republicans want to be frankly. Jim acosta. Thank you. Charlie dent and our Kirsten Powers and rick santorum. Kirsten, is this how you expect this all to go if the president does not get his 5. 7 billion from congress but he does get the money from elsewhere and therefore say it is a win . I dont know if he can call it a win but i do think thats the only way forward for him and in a way it is probably the best Case Scenarios for the democr f well. Hes the one who made the promise and broken the promise. If he wants to go and get the money some where else, then it is on him. I think in the end he came out of this deal in a less good place when he started. When he started he got less money and he had to give up something on in terms of the number of beds and so i think he would have been smarter to not shut down the government. Senate ersan or santorum, whu see is happen sing . The president is not a winner out of this. Hes not going to give the decision sort of the last minute he has to. I am sure he does not feel good about it. Having said that, i think there are alternatives for the president to sign this bill and he should sign it and look for other places as jim was talking about to get his wall construction. The other side is not nearly as big of a loss but you are looking at nancy pelosi, not a penny. Nancy pelosi says if you are going to get wall funding, you have to give us other thing, daca the president did not have to give out any of those things. It is not a complete route for democrats because they did not get anything out of this bill. The president was the one who had the big show and did not deliver. Congressman dent. How do you see it . The president get money from other places . Do you expect con depressigress republicans standby him on that . I am anxious to see what the president is trying to do. I can tell you all that, he cant simply move one money from one account to another without the signoff of the chair and the subcommittee of homeland security. Those are controlled by democrats and same thing with the senate. Congress considers that a requirement to reprogram a congressional approval. I think the white house may consider this as a simple curtesy they are not bound by that. If the president is going to reprogram dollars without con depressi congressional approval, i think there will be a big fight especially if hes trying to take military Construction Fund for a nonmilitary purpose. That violates the law. I am anxious to see how they reprogram dollars. That can be a nasty fight. Senate ersan to ror santorum agree with senator dent . Thats certainly in the realm of possibility for the president simply to say that there is an emergency and these funds are available. You go a different path. Kirsten, if the president does go along with this deal, it is still not i guess he can say it is a wall but it is a barrier fencing that has been always been used, different times perhaps. I actually nancy pelosi is correct. There is going to be no construction of a wall. When he talked about a wall, he was talking about something much grandiose than fencing. You know he referred to the great wall of china, this is what hes envisioning, something of really grandiose. Hes getting funding for some Border Security which is something that the democrats care about, there is additional funding in there for technology to help, to help secure the border. What the democrats got in return for that is a reduce number of beds for i. C. E. Senator santorum, can the president continue to blame democrats for not getting full funding for the wall considering the deal is signed off by republicans as well . It is a compromise that hes been public and he does not like and he thinks that he should have done better and republicans should have done better. This is a president thats not shy of blaming democrats and calling out republicans for being weak and not standing with him as tough as he likes. Again, the president is going to charge his own bath or political future. The democrats will be apart of that coming out and some republicans also. Both. Congressman de dent, we se t certainly dont hear of mexico paying for that wall. The president and his budget request for fiscal year 19 requested 1. 6 billion for barriers. He wants 5. 7 billion well, why didnt he put it in his budget request . He could have had 5. 7 billion when republicans controlled the house. It is beyond me. This whole shutdown was a harmful gesture, made no sense and they got a worse deal. The number of beds, thats the current law. It is basically status quo. Theyre not getting anything at all. It is a stalemate. Thats a lost for the president. Senator santorum, did you understand the thinking of the white house on that. Why not have done this when republicans were in control. You had to get votes from schumer and democrats in the senate. I am not sure he would have gotten as good of a deal because democrats and the senate were in a position to block and then blame the republicans because quote, they were in the majority. I think democrats being in control gave the president actually more leverage to put them on the spot to have them compromise. Being in the minority in the senate is a powerful place to be if the other side, if the majority does not have 60 votes. Kirsten . No, they did not what he wanted was 5 billion for a wall. What he got was a little ov over like a fraction of that basically to build a fence, thats not the same thing as him as the democrats giving him something. It is actually giving him something that they agree with. The republicans have spent a lot of time casting the democrats as people who dont care about Border Security when in fact they have supported this security in the past and they supported it now. With the president s promise was to build al wall that frankly costs more than 5 million. In order to build the entire wall, we would be talking about 15 billion or 20 billion. We got to leave it there. Congressman dent and Kirsten Powers and senator santorum. Thank you very much. The collusion, he has seen no evidence between the Trump Campaign and the russians. Top members said no so fast. Well look at how to decide. My conversation with the newest president ial hopeful, amy klobachar, joins me. So why am i still thinking about this . Ill take aleve. Aleve. Proven better on pain. 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We still have a number of key witnesses to come back. The split between the two senators is significant because it is rare frankly, their committee operated smoothly without the partisan division. Congressman jim hans, i spoke to him before. Given the Intelligence Committee in the senate unloo i can unlike the house has worked well together in a bipartisan way. There are still witnesses to be called on either side and the word collusion which is the word that senator burr split. Gout three investigations out there, the house senate and the Mueller Investigation, it is best that we wait and see what they actually say in their final versions before we get too excited of any potential outcome. That of course anderson points to the need of Mueller Investigation to actually be reported to the American People so that well get finality which ever way the truth points us. None of the facts are in dispute, only what those facts mean. It could come down to one set of facts but two different conclusions . Thats possible. Consider the word collusion, collusion is actually not a legal term. There is no particular definition of it. Is it collusion when the president s son donald trump jr. , invites russians to trump tower in order to give him dirt on the political component . The conversation that we dont know about that manafort when he was running President Trumps campaign had with constantine. We know there was all kinds of communications back and forth and everybody who had that communication lied about it. At the end of the day, i would urge caution here. The facts rule out and people will determine whether it rises to the level of collusion when those facts are out. Of course, if we point to things like conspiracy then of course we get into the legal realm of whether anybody needs to be held accountable for that. The other question is whether or not there is any evidence that the president himself or everyone candidate trump knew of any of what some might call collusion if it is donald trump jr. Meeting with the russians or other thing like that. Thats a good question. If the president knew these contacts were going on, authorized these contacts and if the president said hey, i am not saying i have any evidence that this happens, but hey, lets continue this conversation, russia won x, y, and z, we dont know some big things. We dont know whether the president s son told his father about the meeting that he had with the russians . Steve bannon says it is a zero percent probability that he did. We may not know that until we know bob mueller is able to get from the president when he got answers to those questions. The thing to do right now is wait until these things are done. Senator burr says, any goodwill that may exist is gone. Do you expect cohen to appear in front of your committee on february 28th as hes scheduled to . I do expect him to. At the end of the day, if Congress Wants you here, you come. If you dont appear voluntarily and congress think it is important, you will be subpoenaed. Who knows . Some witnesses preferred to be subpoena. My point is particularly around issues is there a compromise of the United States government, is there an issue with russia or what can we learn about how to avoid or what happened s in the past. Congressman, thank you. Appreciate it. Joining us, how Intelligence Committee, sean wu and david gargon. Do you think it is going to come down with one set of facts leading to two different collusion s collusions . Not really, i think we are still in the midst of the investigation. These two men is telling the truth. Senator burr is saying we had tha lot of hearings and we have not seen any evidence of collusion. Senator warren is staying silence and avoiding the question. What hes saying is we should not reach a conclusion. We dont have that so far. The guy who has it is going to have it in the end is mueller. Back in the background here, what warner is saying, mueller has many pieces of this puzzle in his possession already than the senate Intelligence Committee has. Therefore, we should wait and you can leave and by implications hes agreeing with burr that they have not seen anything so far but hes not saying that. Does it matter that there ends up with no direct evidence collusion involving the president. Plenty of convictions are based on circumstantial evidence and there are a number of people charged with crimes. Absolutely, you can have an indictment, you dont have to have the smoking gun of the admission or the taped conversations. I agree with david, we are in the midst of this. Theyre still in the midst of things. They may never get to hear from some of the witnesses such as flynn or manafort or gates because of their involvement of the criminal investigations. It is important for us to draw the distinction between how congress investigates verses how a criminal investigation proceeds. The criminal investigation almost focuses on the individual wrong doing at the end of the day. Thats why the burden is so high beyond a reasonable doubt. Theyre both in search of the truth. Congress is looking to uncover fact