And his daughter angie washed up on the mexican side of the river. They were from el salvador and drowned trying to cross into the country, drowned trying to cross into the united states. Had they made it, they might have faced a difficult and dangerous future. What has become keeping them honest a human disaster involving the conditions these migrants face in u. S. Custody especially kids. There are kids living in fifth and crowded together and caring for younger children. They are living this way because the number of people crossing the border in decisions made in washington and policies set at the top. A guest who joins us momentarily, a pediatrician describes it this way. Children being held in conditions comparable she says to torture. Extreme cold temperatures, lights on 24 hours a day, no adequate access to medical care or basic sanitation or adequate food. Or water. Those are the conditions being reported to her. Some of the people responsible, youll see simply dont acknowledge that as they compare the influx of migrants to a storm or flood or a tide as if this all fell from the sky or rolled in from the sea. The end of the day, though, this is not an act of god. These are people, poor people, young people and whoever you think about the case they may have for coming here, they are here. They are now in custody here and those words in custody dont just mean are being held, they mean in the care of or as websters has it, the act or process of preserving in safety, which is not what is happening. We and others reported on it. Here is what the New York Times wrote after childrens advocates visited the facility in clint, texas where we learned 250 kids had been taken out of because the overcrowding was so bad. This is also the facility where today we learned that about 100 kids have to be returned to. Quoting now from the times most of the young detainees have not been able to shower or wash clothes since they arrived at the facility. Those who visited said they have no access to toothbrushes, tooth paste or soap there is a stench said director of the immigrants rights clinic at colombia law school, one of the lawyers that visited. The overwhelming majority of children have not bathed since they crossed the border she said. There is a stench she said speaking literally of human beings living worse than animals because animals at least have the means to clean themselves. She might have well been speaking figuratively coming from the places where the people responsible are failing to take responsibility. Today john sanders acting commissioner of customs and Border Protection stepped down. An official unnamed tells the times its not clear whether his departure is or is not related to the revelations of the facile tils and the acting head of ice in another acting capacity. Today his boss was asked whether he asked acting commissioner sanders to step down. I doesnt think ive ever spoken to him. We have very good people running it and, you know, i dont know anything about it. I hear hes a very good man and person. I dont know him. I dont think i ever spoke to him. Hes heard good things about him. This official responsible for enforcing the tough border policy. But hes never spoken to the man, doesnt even know him. For all the president s tough talk on the boarder, hes never spoken to one of his front line officials apparently or perhaps hes doing what he did with Paul Manafort barely knew him. Michael cohen wasnt really important or George Papadopoulos the coffee boy and perhaps its not so bad the president might be acquainted with an official carrying out the policy and seems confused about the policies that began this cycle of kids in custody. Zero tolerance enforcement that separated families at the border. The policy has been abandoned. He still maintains falsely the last administration was responsible for it and that he, President Trump actually ended it and now in a new twist, this is what is driving the latest influx of families. You know, under president obama you had separation, i was the one that ended it. I said one thing, when i ended it, i said this is what will happen. More families will come up and thats what happened. Again, keeping them honest. The zero tolerance policy that produced familys separation was conceived and executed by the Trump Administration as a deterrent. They admitted that. Not the president. As for the current influx, experts say there are many factors driving migration through mexico from central americas northern triangle countries. It starts in those countries and President Trump said hes cutting off aid to them or wants to which used to go to improving conditions there and trying to reduce the reasons to leave. It continues through mexico which is only sporadically guarded the southern border but right now seems the main problem the influx of migrants into detention facilities and officials talk tough but dont seem prepared to deal with the consequences of it. That is unless dealing with it means awkwardly chuckling while shifting blame elsewhere. This is again we have money to give tooth paste and soap and blankets to these kids right now we do. Of course we do. Why arent we . My point is its all part of the appropriations process. Part of the appropriations or part of the stench. From dr. Dolly a pediatrician that recently visited the Detention Center in mcallen, texas. What exactly did the kids you talked to tell you about the conditions that they are being kept in . They have very similar stories. They all reported that the lights were kept on 24 hours. I think that was the most uncomfortable thing for them but, you know, the stuff that alarmed me the most like i mentioned is that they all reported no access to hand washing and equally alarming was the mothers with infants drinking formula from a bottle reported no access of washing bottles for infants. Were you able to see, you know, the areas that they are kept in . Because i understand the room you were in there was some sort of wet wipes and things that could be used for cleaning. Were you able to see other areas . No, we did ask for access into where the detainees were being held but denied. The area i saw was very clean. It was an office space thats where they did their work but it just stood out that at every single workstation there must have been 12 or 15 computers in the room. There was a Hand Sanitizer and a container of clorox wipes. Clearly, the Border Patrol officers are worried about getting sick, which i understand but its just incomprehensible why that concern is not extended to the detainees that are in the crowded space themselves. You also write about seeing evidence of trama in these kids. Can you explain what the evidence was, how you came to that conclusion . Yeah, the evidence i saw was entirely based on their behavior. They were all responding in an appropriately for their age. They were all extremely fearful, which i understand considering the circumstances but then after that extremely subdued in that they allowed me to examine them easily, which is completely unexpected and inappropriate behavior for their age. The three children that were unaccompanied in the daycare setting had more evidence of trama. One of them when he came to the room where i was was breathing heavily the entire time and i asked the coast guard officer and she said no, he just started doing this. I think that trama was from seeing his teenage mother he hadnt seen in three weeks, the person he came into the center with but initially there was no bonding. He didnt run to his brother. There was looking straight down and panelling. Panting. The two other girls alone kept repeating the same statement. They said my dad is getting the papers, my dad is getting the papers and thats all they kept going back to and inappropriately i would say. Is this anything what you expected it to be . I mean, did you expect to find this . Is it better, worse than you anticipated . Some things were better and some were worse. The hygiene im dumbfounded by because if you dont care about the humanity and thinking of dollars and cents, its cheaper to get soap than send people to the e. R. Or quarantine them with flu. Thats common sense. You dont need a doctor to tell you washing your hands will reduce the spread of infection. That i was completely dumbfounded by. The bottles, that feels reportable to cps. Really, it is. I had a parent come to my office and say they are not washing formula bottles for days on end, i would be concerned about the childs safety at home. That i was floored by. The human decency i did see, i mean, the coast guard officer i saw was lovely. There was a lady who was cleaning the bathrooms when one of the unaccompanied kids, the 3yearold walked out. She said hey, and named her by her first name and gave her a big hug. There is good and bad. Like anything else, it depends on who is showing up for work and how as a human with basic human decency treating the people they are there to protect. Appreciate you being on. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. As we said at the top, there is action in congress on this tonight. The democratic controlled house expected to vote on about 4. 5 billion in funding for the border situation. The white house is threatening a veto. Joining us now is democratic senator jeff merckly of oregon he serves on the Foreign Relations committee. And spend considerable time on the boarder. I want to start by asking about the photograph that we showed earlier, a father, his almost 2yearold child that drowned trying to cross into the u. S. Obviously, the passage is incredibly dangerous for many people. When you see Something Like this, the reality of the situation for so many its hard to ignore. Anderson, this father, this child were victims of american metering where they attempted to cross at a port of entry reportedly they were refused the ability put back into mexico and where they had no family, no friends, no resources so they did what so many others try to do in that situation and say weve just got to try to get across the border and that means some people who approached the wall, crossed the river and in this case, we dont know all the specific details but its my understanding that this is a family that was rejected at the border. We just heard about some of the conditions that the doctor heard from some of the children at facility in texas. Who is to blame for all of this and why is it just a question of numbers of people and that they are just, that these facilities arent set up to deal with that or what is the problem . Is the breakdown . Not having soap and tooth paste seems a ridiculous problem. This is a huge level of incompetence and lack of compassion. The standards for sanitation, food, medicine for water, for cleanliness have been violated repeatedly and seems like intentionally. I think any american would be horrified to see these conditions. These are things that are fairly easily remedied with bottles of water and soap and access to a bathroom, with taking small children who have a medical condition and getting them to medical care. I dont think we can simply say that its the level of the influx. I just think that we need to have a thorough investigation of what has happened and hold people accountable for failures, whether intentional and deliberate. This is absolutely unacceptable. What do you make of the president s comments saying he didnt know the acting head of customs and Border Patrol that he had never spoken to them, you know, he clearly has made being tough on the boarder or what he considering tough on the boarder to be a major part of his administration, i can understand them not knowing a lot of lower level front line officials but the acting head of customs and Border Patrol you would think he would know who that person is. Absolutely. With all of his attention on the boarder, you would expect he would have heads in there of i. C. E. And department of Homeland Security and head of customs and Border Protection. We got to solve these problems. What resources do you need . Were moving them over. Take care of these things. Under line administrations approach has been the argument that if people suffer as immigrants, it will discourage them from immigrating. That was the base of child separation. Mistreat or inflict trama on children and it will discourage immigration. So when you start from that perspective, there isnt this sense we would expect of our government in which they are doing Everything Possible to address these problems. They are not doing Everything Possible and the result is the horrific conditions were seeing now. Many of these conditions would be neglect and prosecutable in any other setting. Senator, appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thank you. Just ahead in the wake of the most recent assault allegation against President Trump, ill talk with Jessica Leeds who went public with her allegation of assault in the heat of 2016 campaign and later, the aftermath of emotional meeting on capitol hill between First Responders of 9 11 to senator Mitch Mcconnell. Were satisfied. Are we happy . No. Were [crying] were going to leave here and alvarez is going to die. Whoa. Travis in it made it. Its amazing. Oh is that traviss app . Its pretty cool, isnt it . 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On capitol hill republicans are defending the president of keeping radio silence and gop senators say new york writers revealed Sexual Assault allegations against President Trump should be looked into. Senators mitt romney of utah and joni of iowa said the assertions made by advice columnist e. Jean carroll should be examined. On the program i talked at length with miss carol that reported two decades ago the president Sexual Assaulted her in a new York City Department store. She also reacted to the president denying her accusation saying quote shes not my type. Im wondering, the statement that he said which he just made which is shes not my type is the number one thing. I love im not his type. Dont you love youre not his type . He called Miss Universe fat. Miss piggy, i think he called her. Miss universe. One of the most beautiful women in the solar system and he called her fat. 15 women over the years made Sexual Assault allegations. One of them is Jessica Leeds that went public during the closing weeks of the 2016 campaign and it didnt take the president long to go after her. When you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said i dont think so. She would not be my first choice that i can tell you. Man. You dont know. That would not be my first choice. Joining me tonight is Jessica Leeds. Jessica, were you surprised to hear the president essentially kind of using the same words against miss carroll that he used against you talking about appearances and that, you know, he said shes not my type about carroll. I was not surprised. He is set in his ways and he really needs a new script, but hes not going to change. Its interesting with miss carroll that his first thing he said im saying this with respect, the first thing he said is shes not my type and then, you know, that its not true and that shes lying. The idea that thats the first thing one would talk about is the appearance of the person is interesting. Yes. Yeah. Thats a Common Thread through all the other episodes that have come to light. He lies so much that he really is incapable of recognizing this situation as it literally exists. I remember when you and i first spoke back in october, it was of 2016, you told me that you knew when you came forward that the president would comment about your looks and thats intentionally why you came forward, you showed pictures of yourself when you were the age of the incident that you say happened. That was already in your mind. You knew thats what he would do . Absolutely. Absolutely. My experience with men like trump, they cannot see themselves in the mirror. They dont recognize their own ageing so they cant recognize the ageing of other people, of women and they really basically are only attracted to younger women, to young women. When you came forward, you know, and again, this was in the during the campaign and other women came forward and would, were