Were going to talk about all of it in this hour as well as in a special report with the leads jay tapper. We want to focus on the call itself. The key points from july 25th which is the rough transcript is not verbatim. The president saying, i will say that we do a lot for ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Then after a brief digression the president continues, quote, the United States has been very, very good to ukraine. I wouldnt say that its reciprocal necessarily because things are happening thats not very good. But United States has been very good to ukraine. Then zelensky replies, you are right. Not 100 , 1,000 . When this is taking place President Trump had already delayed 391 million in aid to ukraine. 250 million of that was in military assistance, aid that was approved by Congress Already was being held up by the president. Thats whats dangling or hanging over president zelenskys head, i would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we are almost ready to buy more jaff livelins. President trump then replies, i would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. They say crowd strike, he later adds, i would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and i would like you to get to the bottom of it. Now crowd strike is the Cyber Security firm the dnc called in when its servers were hacked in the 2016 campaign. Its also at the center of a Conspiracy Theory that seems to deflect blame from russia for the hacking. Then the president asked for more help. The other thing, President Trump says, theres a lot of talk of bidens son, that biden stopped the prosecution. A lot of people want to find out about that. Whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution. If you can look into it, it sounds horrible to me. Finally President Trump said ill have mr. Giuliani give you a call and im going to have attorney general barr give you a call and be well get to the bottom of it. Im sure you will figure it out. That is the heart of it. Thats all the president talked about beyond spreading pleasantries. There was no talk about current corruption. No talk of ongoing concerns the president claims to have about corruption. No information the president would have gotten from his Intelligence Services about current corruption. Just biden. A short time after the transcript of it came out members of the two congressional Intelligence Committees got a look at the whistleblower complaint. Joining us is raja chrisn raja chrisna morthey. I know theres a lot you cant say. What can you say about the whistleblowers complaint that you read . Sure. Thank you for having me on. Most of it should be declassified tonight and it should be shared with the american public. I think transparency is absolutely essential here, but what i can say about the complaint is that its thorough, its careful, its credible, its consistent and it raises a lot more questions than it answers but its obvious why the Inspector General who, by the way, was appointed by the Trump Administration found it to be both urgent and credible enough to pass along to the dni. Can you say how much more there is in the original whistleblower complaint beyond what was laid out in the rough transcript that was released today . I mean, was it solely based on that conversation . I cant get into the specifics of that particular complaint, but what i can say, anderson, is that it talks about a lot more witnesses. It talks about more documents. It talks about more materials that have to be pursued to get to the bottom of what exactly transpired with regard to this National Security situation. Your colleague on the Intelligence Committee was on copacabana beach earlier saying in the complaint the whistleblower evokes other witnesses to disturbing contact that the whistleblower disturbing conduct, i should say, that the whistleblower was alarmed by the number of people who knew what was going on and hadnt said anything. Can you say approximately how many other people did know what was going on . It was a bunch. Im sorry for being so vague. The main point which i do want to hammer home, there are other witnesses here who need to be talked to and who need to quite frankly be interviewed or brought before our committee to understand the full extent of the misconduct here. I just want to say one other thing, which is that this whistleblower needs to be commended. Hes courageous in coming forward and for that matter the Inspector General is also to be commended for his professionalism. You know, theres no incentive for him to shade his analysis in favor of forwarding this whistleblower complaint. If anything, telling the truth on the Inspector Generals part puts his career in jeopardy as well. Im not asking obviously who this whistleblower is or what their position is. Do you know after reading this what position maybe you probably dont know their name, but do you know what position they hold . Or how they would have gotten this information . No. No. And the Inspector General actually invokes a certain provision of the law which allows him to mask the identity of the whistleblower. Because i ask that question because the president today had started to i mean, started doing it yesterday but today started basically impugning the whistleblower, calling him sort of socalled whistleblower saying that, you know, basically implying that they are democratic operative or just tangential to this and is there anything that raises anything about this whistleblower . No. Actually, Inspector General does a very good job of actually we got to see the classified determination or analysis that the Inspector General performed on the whistleblowers complaint and he himself made an independent judgment that it was both credible and urgent. And as you know, the Inspector General doesnt have a liberal or democratic bias. So justifiably the what you just said about the Inspector General had looked into this whistleblower and the complaint and judged it yes. Worthy of moving forward. Does what the Inspector General has already done on assessing this complaint and the names that the whistleblower has said are eye witnesses or, you know, have some information and should be talked to, is that essentially providing you roadmaps forward . I mean, specific people to talk to to call in . I think its fair to say that hes definitely giving us some indications of further investigation that needs to be done so i think that both the Inspector General and the whistleblower point us to other avenues for inquiry for sure. Congressman, i appreciate your time. By the way, is it yes, sir. You said you think this should be declassified . Absolutely. Youre saying that could be easily done, theres just some things to well, i think, look, theres certain appendices or certain materials that are classified in nature or sensitive that should probably be withheld, however, the vast majority of the material should be declassified immediately. And the fact that the white house has not done so just begs the question why. Why do they not want us to see the full why do they not want the American People to see the full whistleblower complaint . Why do they not want the press to see the full whistleblower complaint at this point . Justifiably, the president has talked about this whistleblower. To your knowledge, would it be inappropriate if the president had been told the identity of this whistleblower . I personally think so. I think that quite frankly given all that we know about how certain witnesses have been treated in different investigations, i think its best for this whistleblowers identity to be shrouded at this point. I just want to say one last thing, anderson, which is that, you know, this is a National Security issue. I hope that folks can come at this with an objective point of view. I was heartened in the last hearing that we had, which is closed door, that the republicans on my committee seem to show an unusual amount of engagement with the Inspector General. I think they had no choice because he was so credible. I hope they can display the same viewpoint coming into tomorrows hearing and Going Forward because its National Security. We cannot afford to let this get bogged down. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Hes talking about meeting tomorrow the director of the National Intelligence will be coming in. Joining us is Gloria Borger and Jeffrey Toobin and David Axlerod who served as a top advisor to president obama. Jeff, this rough transcript not verbatim as it itself says, how damaging is it . Yeah, how damaging is it . I think its extraordinarily damaging. I think it is an definition of an abuse of power of the president. As you pointed out at the beginning. There has never been in American History a president who in such explicit terms went to a foreign p power who is in debt and in need of the United States and said, give me dirt on my political opponents. It has never happened before because it is a violation of the president s oath of office and as the president likes to say, well see what happens because it looks like the republicans are going to rally around him. And we may be back to just another Mueller Report but the magnitude of the misconduct cannot be misstated. The president basically poopooed it by saying i didnt do it but this is what obama did to me. This is what senators and Congress People do all the time. Right. And i think thats moral relativism at the core of trumps message always which is this is a cold, hard world. Nothings on the legit and everybody does these things and, therefore, its okay that i do these things. But the truth is that this is not what everybody does as jeff pointed out and you pointed out. No president has done this before. What makes it so start is its right there in black and white. Theres no speculation there. This is a little bit different than the Mueller Investigation which was a little bit hard to follow because witnesses were secreted and there was no direct sort of testimony from the president. This is an attestation really in print of what happened. Its shocking. Its shocking not just because of the way in which he appeared to be delivering this message but in the references to the attorney general and involving the United States attorney general with ukraine and going after a domestic political opponent, incredibly explosive. Yeah. Then the role of Rudy Giuliani in this mix. It is a really, really stark document. Gloria, its also remarkable, you just kind of step back for a second, wait a minute, the president of the United States is telling the ukrainian president how great his personal attorney is, really smart, really capable guy. Take a call from him. Hes going to fill you in on the details. I keep coming back to when marlin bran do you in godfather sends him out into hollywood to make a deal. Right. What is giuliani rolling around creeping around ukraine to talk to the president of ukraine which is such a ridiculo ridiculous fig leaf. You scratch my back, ill scratch yours. This is what we do in real estate. Hes never adjusted to the fact that there are different norms and behaviors awhen youre president of the United States. Rudy giuliani, this relationship as you know and all of us know from the mrt, ruueller report, was the tv attorney. They gave them heartburn. Hes always been the trump whisperer. I think once you have this, the president and rudy got together and said, okay, what can we do for 2020 . 2016 is over. We have to discredit biden and by the way maybe ukraine can help figure out the Hillary Clinton server thing. Both of them are false conspiracies. They love trading in that together. I think they feed off of each other. To that end, this celebrated notorious phone call was the day after mueller testified in congress where he didnt make a big or great impression which the president refers to in his conversation. Yeah. The other thing to point out about giuliani is that in one of his many fox interviews, i was just operating at the instruction of the state department. What . Well hear about that. But it also seems like if what congressman stallwell and the others said other names and people. Certainly the former ambassador who giuliani launched a giuliani attack and got him removed from office. They must be somebody who would be worth while talking to as well . Absolutely. I think that ambassador who got sent home, about why she was sent home and trashed really by the president in the conversation with the president of ukraine. Rudy giuliangiulianis work is. I also wonder, anderson, about the recently departed nsa director, john bolton. He certainly has an incentive to be forthcoming on this having been apart from it and now being dispatched by trump and the way he was. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. Unless he wants to be a fox analyst or be on the lecture circuit. We want to hold that thought. Theres a tentative agreement. Well have that next. Talk about it as well. Rather remarkable press conference responding to all of it. Ill show you parts of that as well. At fidelity, we believe your money should always be working harder. Thats why your cash automatically goes into a Money Market Fund when you open a new account. And fidelitys rate is higher than e trades, td ameritrades, even 9 times more than schwabs. 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This certainly is a step forward in the whistleblower actually appearing before lawmakers. Just remember, last week the dni wouldnt provide anything having to do with the whistleblower complaint. It will be tough to find tomorrow. We are expecting the classified version and its going to be released by the ends of the week. Now were learning a sensitive deal has been released and its going before lawmakers and the house Intelligence Committee pending the lawyers getting their security clearances. Were told this wont happen tomorrow. The original complaint, was it classified . Or was it just declass was it classified after the fact by the white house. Do we the original complaint did contain classified information. The original theres a separate process going