California. Governor of the state saying that peak is not going to be as high as feared, then we heard from l. A. County, they extended the socalled safer at home order through may 15th, another five weeks from now. And they were at pains to say that may 15th is not a magic date, not promising to lift all restrictions when that rolls around. Of course meanwhile so many people are fighting a daily life and death battle with this virus. There are triumphs, cheers for the recovered. Numbers in new yorks icus are actually down for the first time. Some encouraging signs. Were starting to level on the logarithmic phase like italy did about a week ago. Because of the impact of what the citizens of new york and new jersey and across connecticut and now rhode island are doing to really change the course of this pandemic. Reporter but still so much pain. Tara gabriels mom, now gone, more than just a statistic. My mother was a real person, she was loving and selfless and kind. Reporter in new york now the bodies of unclaimed covid19 victims being taken to hart island for burial. Official death count of more than 5,000 in the city could be undercounted with people dying untested at home according to the new york times. That state now has more confirmed reported cases than any country on earth according to data from Johns Hopkins university. In l. A. Now you have to wear a mask in a store. If youre not covering your face by friday morning an essential business can refuse you service. Reporter but in florida think of reopening schools. If we get to the point where people think were on the other side of this, get kids back, even for a couple of weeks, we think there would be value in that. This particular pandemic is one i dont think theres been a single fatality under 25. Yes, people under 25 have died of coronavirus disease in the United States of america. Reporter floridas governor has walked that back. A little. In florida, no fatalities under 25. Reporter starting tomorrow in michigan if you own more than one home, pick one and stay there. Illinois warning all big events could be canceled until theres a vaccine, months or a year away and discouraging Church Services. Today is good friday, earshot sunday, we have to stay inside. Reporter but in kansas governor in legal battle hoping to limit Church Services to ten people. Need to congregate is important, but not during a pandemic. Reporter and testing remains an issue weeks into the pandemic. One study of 51 coronavirus patients, current test missed 16 of them. Antibody test is said to be days away to identify those recovered and potentially immune and able to return to work, but can the country start to reopen may 1 as the president hopes . And what might be the toll . Dont let anyone get any false ideas. When we decide at a proper time when were going to be relaxing some of the restrictions, theres no doubt youre going to see cases. May 1st, which has been floated by some people in the white house, how much is that at this point just aspirational goal to begin some sort of opening up . And how much of that is any basis in reality . Reporter i mean the first issue is what the governors of individual states want to do. Putting that aside for a second, president clearly is aiming for that date. But dr. Fauci said today, the virus kind of decides. And he says that he and the White House Task force team look at all the data every day, take that information to the Vice President and the president and any decision on opening will be made at that level. And you know, today the president was asked, will you listen to your medical advisers. And he came back with this, he said i listen to them about everything. I think theyre actually surprised. Anderson. He also went on to say he listens to them but also sees two sides and clearly is going to be listening to members of the Business Community and business folks around him. He has this said theyd announce a Business Council looking at reopening the country. He probably announce that next week. Nick watt, thanks very much. Another big development, coronavirus model cited by white house suggests today is peak for deaths. Director of the institute who published the models. Health metrics and evaluation in washington. Dr. Sanjay gupta, dr. Lee as well, George Washington university. Dr. Murray, can you explain how you came to the conclusion the United States has reached peak daily death toll . Thats what our model is saying. We rerun the model basically almost every night. And the new returns from different states are suggesting different peaks in different states but overall at National Level we seem to be pretty much close to the peak. Our model has pretty even numbers next four days or so. Not going to see abrupt peak and decline but we do see it leveling off. And overall projected deaths in the United States, model now projects about 61,500 people in u. S. Dying from coronavirus by august. Thats compared to yesterday it was i think about 60,000, or earlier this week. If the peak is now, is there a reason the numbers a little bit larger than it was previously . Yeah, it is. Some states havent fully implemented social distancing. Were seeing their peaks shifting out in time. And were seeing a peak now but decline is going to be very slow as some other states reach their peak later in april and even extending into may. From the research and data gathering at this point, when you look at the white house that had modelling between 100,000 and 240,000 dying at one point not too long ago, does that make sense . At that time i think your model was still in the 80,000 range. Yeah, our model estimates have moved around as we get more data, get the size of different states more like new york or washington in terms of trajectory, and early returns tell us a lot. Remember also in our model we assume that social distance is going to stay in place until end of may. And weve now started to run scenarios about what happens if we take them off may 1st. Early returns on that analysis dont look good. Do you have numbers on that yet . Were going to release concrete scenarios by state next week. But its enough to say if we were to stop at the National Level may 1st, were seeing return to almost where we are now sometime in july. So a rebound, that rebound doesnt happen in every state because some states are much farther along but definitely a substantial risk of rebound if we dont wait to the point where most transmission is near zero each state. Wow, want to drill down on that a second. I know youre going to be releasing this next week, but from what you know now, if the model if social distancing that currently exists, as you said not in every state, if it does not go until the beginning of the june, then there will be a rebound in some states akin to what were seeing now with high number of the deaths for instance in new york. Thats what our first round of modeling suggests. Well be able to give more precise information next week. But clearly the risk of rebound is very great with Early Release from closures. I think the big issue is when can some states transition to something that gets people back to school and work. And its states Like Washington that have got the epidemic peaked and starting to come down it seems that are going to be able to think about that transition sooner than states that are the peak is yet to come. Dr. Lee, what do you make of the idea of again the president doesnt necessarily have the power hes saying he has to he can issue guidelines for states coming back online and economic coming back online but a lot of it up to the governors and local officials in each state, but given what youre seeing, do you think its reasonable to think early may you could start giving up some of these stayathome orders . Anderson, i think that would be extremely dangerous. You know, in the d. C. Metro area for instance, we do not think that the peak is going to happen this week or next week, but potentially even into june. Were seeing the social distancing is absolutely helping but we are seeing this slow and steady continual uptick in numbers of confirmed cases and numbers of deaths. And just as dr. Murray said, its going to be a different situation in different regions across the country. I think it would be extremely dangerous to lift the social distancing and mitigation strategies were doing right now. Especially when we dont have the widespread testing and Contact Tracing strategies implemented yet. Sanjay, where do you come down on this . Yeah. Its interesting that we think of the United States as a country obviously, but theres many different scenarios in different places. Im wondering for professor murray, if i could ask a question, one of the things that struck me and i think anderson too, its good news we see the projection numbers come down, professor murray, but just wondering, is it that the social distancing mechanisms have worked better than you thought they were going to work or are you surprised at how well people have actually abided by it . What do you think is driving the numbers down . I think two factors. Even just two weeks ago there was only wuhan city in china that had a widespread epidemic peaked and come right down. Now we have another 18 places in italy and spain that have peaked and come down. Thats telling us a lot of information about time from implementing social distancing to getting to the peak. Thats feeding into the models and thats making us much more confident about when the peak is likely to occur. Other thing is there are states like california and washington and others where the trajectory has been very different than new york, more gradual increase, lower peak, and we believe its because people started to social distance even before mandates from government were put in place. Dr. Murray, im just really, not surprised, but its fascinating to me how clear to you based on the modeling youre doing right now, about implications of getting back to work nationwide too quickly, that will clearly dr. Fauci earlier said you would expect to see a rise. But the idea in some places, returning back to the levels were currently at would be devastating in terms of peoples confidence getting back to work. No, i think we put such investment as a nation in trying to get this pandemic under control, it makes sense to stay the course because even those extra few weeks is going to make a huge difference. Even when you get to the end of may and youve got most communities with very low levels of transmission, were going to have to do something after that point. Not the closures we have now but we have to have capability to test, contact trace, quarantine, control infection coming in from other places. But theres a huge difference at least in the way we see this unfolding between closing may 1st and getting to the end of may. Should also say, dr. Murray, seems to be a disagreement certainly from the president and scientists about what getting back to work actually means in terms of testing and Contact Tracing. And i imagine that will affect the model significantly. Because if youre relying on significant Contact Tracing and testing. If that is not the case, president today earlier at Coronavirus Task force saying in some states you dont need to do that stuff because they dont have a problem, thats going to affect the model in a lot of different ways. I think theres a really important set of issues for every state and for the nation to grapple with about scaling up testing capacity, making sure the Public Health system is able to do the Contact Tracing, and make sure we minimize the risk, do whatever we can to avoid a resurgence and having to even contemplate closures like were going through right now. Yeah, fascinating, dr. Murray, appreciate all your work. As always, sanjay gupta, jennifer lee. Up next, report on the factors whether the president continues to support stayathome orders past this month. And discussion with California Governor Gavin Newsom sharing with states in need. 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President trump said the coronavirus will be one day gone, not that much longer. Sat same News Conference dr. Anthony fauci said now is not the time to be pulling back. Joined by jim acosta at white house. Magg maggie haifrman and dana bash. Jim, you were pressuring him on his talk of opening the country. Hes making it sound as if he decides when the country reopens when its actually state and local officials. It was very squishy, anderson. One thing we did ask the president is whether or not he would listen to doctors like Anthony Fauci and deb birx who talked him into the deadlines. Said would listen, didnt say would follow recommendations. On tuesday talk about new reopening the Country Council made up of politicians and Business Leaders and so on. Asked him whether it would be bipartisan, he said it would, not many other details. Sounds like hes moving in that direction, reopening this country. Question at this point is what is going to slow him down . May not be the doctors at this point. Because youre hearing the doctors saying the country is not ready at this stage and not sure it will be by end of the month. Maggie, what do you make of the president s declaration he can override the state stayathome orders. When it was question of would he order governors to institute stayathome orders, he said he wouldnt because believes in constitution more than anybody else. I think it was one of those things he says thats not particularly based on a plan or any legality. Also think theres a number of people in his administration who would have a real problem with federal government trying force that. Would be really hard. What is clear in listening to the president , its not clear what metrics hes going to use objectively to reopen the country. Will it be number of jobs lost . Number of tests done . Cases declining in specific places . These are all real questions. When he was asked about metrics, didnt answer, pointed to his own head and said this is my metric. Were going to see him grappling with this. These are real questions to be fair. Theres an economic and Mental Health toll on this country and i understand why hes wrestling with this. But i do think its important to for the country to understand whats going into his decision and hes struggled to make that clear. You were talking with, what else did they say . Just that, when he finally does make this decision. Alluding to this with jim. First of all not really his decision to make, its the individual governors. But he can show proper leadership by making this announcement and decisions along with the governors, key governors. Very hard to do with all of them, but key governors in the states that have had the biggest hot spots. Source i was talking to who communicates with the white house was suggesting that would be a twofer. First lets get real, political cover to do it hand in glove with governors, many of whom are democrats. But more importantly to have cover when it comes to the health situation. Governors on the front lines arent going to want to open up their states, restaurants and everything that equals normal life until theyre ready. It would do both of those things. Unclear if hes going to listen to that. Jim, now you have professor murray saying next week whose model has been more conservative frankly in terms of death toll than the white houses own model, saying hes releasing a report next week that will show if social distancing and current efforts dont remain in place through may there very well projected to be a return by i think he said july to the current numbers were seeing in some of the hot spots. Thats right. And dr. Anthony fauci made that very clear. If you loosen or remove the guidelines, do not be surprised if you see outbreaks in certain parts of the country because the virus is still there, whether or not the president wants to get back to work. Other thing that needs to be pointed out, the country is not ready from equipment standpoint to reopen. We dont have enough tests. Despite what the president was saying in fact challenged briefings all week, we dont have enough tests, medical equipment. After the briefing today, i was going to email doctors and nurses im sure you get the same thing, anderson, dont listen to what president says, listen