That incident and two others, though, involving a suspect in california, two members of Law Enforcement are dead. Drew griffin has the latest and the shadow group the armed shooter is believed to belong to. What do we know . I think drews shot is frozen. Well try to get contact with him again. There are, again, these two incidents were talking about. One was in albuquerque, the other in california. Well try to get drew back on it. Now, the president what to make of the action he took on Police Reform today after meeting families of the victims of Police Violence and racially motivated shootings, he signed an executive order calling for a range of Justice Department guidelines and incentives for local Police Departments seeking what the order calls quote independent credentialing end quote to certify they meet Higher Standards for the use of force and deescalation training. The standards would ban the use of choke holds except if an officers life is at risk. Reducing crime and raising standards are not opposite goals. They are not mutually exclusive. They work together. They all work together. That is why today im signing an executive order encouraging Police Departments nationwide to adopt the highest professional standards to serve their communities. These standards will be as high and as strong as there is on earth. Reaction has run the gammit. Van jones and also, cnn political commentator, bakari and retired Los Angeles Police ser g sergeant. Ben, youve been pushing for Police Reform for decades. What do you make of this executive order . Look, i think its pushing in the right direction. The main action will be in congress. The bill that the house passes hopefully next week, well see what the senate does. Thats the main action. The good stuff is there. The danger is you have the president do nothing or do something small and then say we cant have more legislation. What you got today is i think a sign were winning, donald trump put himself on record saying we need to reform the Police Department and two things im excited about, 20 years now weve been asking for a registry of bad cops. The federal government tracks everything on earth except bad cops. Were now moving in that direction and asking can you please send people that can talk people down and not shoot people down when they are in a Mental Health crisis. Nobody will be satisfied even if we pass the big bill in the house. Will say this. We are winning. Donald trump had no plan a month ago to work on this issue at all. The fact that we are now in the direction of moving forward is good and the fact Law Enforcement is with him. Ill give it to bacari. One thing, as hard as we work during the obama years, we never got Law Enforcement to come to the table and stay there. The idea Law Enforcement is standing behind trump on stuff weve been asking for for decades is progress, it the caboose, not the engine but on the right track. Bakari, do you where do you substantial on this . Is it a step in the right direction . So weve made progress but we still have so far to go and, you know, we had a fierce sense of urgency now. That is what people are having during this moment. The tolerance of the legislative process is not as high as it once was because just as we bury george floyd, we have another case in Atlanta Georgia and so people to go back to kings i have a dream speech are harkening where we want that fierce urgency of now. The way i look at this and i actually agree with van on the point that were going in the right direction, but the way i look at this is for the president of the United States, after we had people who were beaten on the bridge, et cetera, they saw the dogs and the violence and 64 and 65 he went and put his johnson put his i imprint on the voting act after many were slaulgt ghtered, nick hayly had the flag come down. Im not sure anyone can say that donald trump has put his imprint on anything but we remain hopeful, although not optimistic. Todays legislation or executive action, you know, it was a lot of circumstance but at the end of the day, i truly felt sorry for the families and i know van put in decades of work and van would agree with me when he says that we still have work to do on this front. Yeah, sergeant dorsey, you spent 20 years as an officer and sergeant in the lapd patrolling the streets. Im wondering what your reaction is and one of the things the president said today and im paraphrasing because i dont have the quote in from the of me. Words to the effect of the good Police Officers, you me, they hate bad Police Officers more than anybody else. The problem seems to be they may know who the bad Police Officers are but police, there is no incentive for them to stand up and turn in or point fingers at fellow officers. In fact, if they do, they are often the ones who bear the brunt of that. I find the entire dog and pony show offensive. Listen, every police chief that wants to create an opportunity and safe space for officers to report can do that. To suggest creating a National Database is going to make things better, these officers were already on a data base locally. They know what he was. He had been involved in 12 prior incidents, chau virksvin. 18. Until they get them off the payroll. Well continue to have this issue and to think that somehow being on a National Database is going to spent oth g ting to pr departments from picking up a rogue cop is equally disingenuous. You have seven or eight Police Officers that just jumped ship on the minneapolis Police Department. Why . Maybe they know there is a home for them on the mississippi Police Department where the police chief says he doesnt have a problem with chauvins shooting. Is this where these officers are fleeing to . They will resign or be given the gift of resignation rather than termination and there is no real record why they left. So i find it all offensive and it does nothing for day to day, what we do on the ground as a Patrol Officer, i know this to be true because i did it for 20 years. And so in your opinion, what do you want to hear from the federal government . In terms of what do you want to see from congress, what do you want to see as actual real change . What id like to see is and i dont need it to happen at the national level. It can happen at the local level. Lets say this, if you have a license to drive and you go out every day and you commit vehicular manslaughter, wouldnt the dmv take your license . Could you get more than three moving violations, excessive speed, reckless driving without dmv removing your drivers license . How about we desert ffy officer . Peace officers standard Training Certificate to remain on the force. Dont give them the gift of resignation. Fire them. Yank their certificate so they cant move around like chess pieces. Dont put it on the Patrol Officer to tell. Make a police chief create an environment and a real whistle blower situation where officers can tell and wont be retaliated, wont be held, wont not get help when you need. I mean, so theres a lot that can be done right there with the police chief and they dont do it. Anderson i want to say, i agree 100 and actually, i think if you read the executive order, it actually is making the point that shes making. The executive order is actually pointing in the direction of a National Certification program so that you cant have cops hopping all over the place and part of the database they part of that. I think one crazy thing thats beginning to happen, were actually in violent agreement from Law Enforcement to people who are critical of Law Enforcement as we have here, Law Enforcement itself, the Trump Administration, nancy pelosi is saying get rid of the choke hold. Trump took steps in that direction. In order, there is an emerging continent of Common Ground and i think we should actually be relatively relieved that its showing there. Van, youve been hearing from have you listened to Police Unions . Thats really not the message coming from a lot of Police Unions out there. Well, listen, i saw the fop today standing behind the president signing the executive order. I know bakari is trying to get in. Police unions have been a problem for a long time but ive never seen the fop stand by side the president on an order like this. Bakari and then we got to go. Anderson, if i maybe extremely brief. I dont want to focus on the executive order too much today because i dont agree its enforceable and said a lot of anything, actually. I mean, the push in going in the right direction is one thing. If the president of the United States actually wants to implement some of the changes were talking about, what he does then is he actually out right bans many of these things or creates databases with the necessary funding or he says these Police Departments and Law Enforcement agencies would not be able to get federal funding. What he did was stopped short of that today. That the the biggest problem people have that much of what he did was unenforceable and we have the bad behavior were trying to root out. Yes, were going in that direction, we have a far bay to go. Bakari sellers, van jones, thank you. Atlanta mayor announced reform by atlanta police. The District Attorney we spoke to yesterday says any decision on charges could come as early as tomorrow. Joining me now to take about this is the Atlanta Mayor keasha lance bottoms. Thanks for being with us. You cited the quote fierce urgency to announce your Police Reforms before President Trump. Now that youve seen what the president put forward, do you think its enough . What are you hoping to change in atlanta . Anderson, i dont usually hold out a lot of hope for what President Trump does but i actually hope that he would do something substantive today. He seems to get in his own way in rolling out this order, he doesnt mention race. He doesnt mention bias and he went on some rambling tirade about School Choice and so its difficult to take him seriously. I was glad to see the National Database, i do think that is an important step but there are so much more to be done and left undone from the plan that president obama and Vice President biden left on 21st Century Policing and so in atlanta and cities across his country as always were still trying to figure it out on our own and use of force policies and not even three days into the task force, we had the killing of Rayshard Brooks. So we cant wait any longer and we have to continue to push forward what policies in the same way weve done in atlanta but the reality is that it still wont bring this father back. You know, some of the things that activists have pointed to getting rid of qualified immunity for Police Officers is a controversial issue and having more Community Involvement or even separate Community Determination of, you know, of who the commanders are in a particular community, former Police Officer who is the president of the brooklyn burro president here. Hes recommended communities actually being able to vote on three choices put forward by the city on who should be a Commanding Officer in a district. Im wondering what you make of the idea of more Community Involvement. I think Community Involvement is always helpful. You have to look at it city by city and make determinations in that regard. But at the end of the day, again, going back to the plan for 21st Century Policing, it was very clear our Police Officers are to be guardians and not warriors in our communities. There is supposed to be a partnership with our communities and that trust is broken across the country and its unfortunate because we know that Law Enforcement plays an Important Role in our communities in atlanta theyre volunteering with our kids at Promise Youth Centers and Police Athletic leagues. There are some positive relationships happening but then when the worst happens, like it did in atlanta on friday, and when you look at what happened with george floyd and Breonna Taylor ahmaud arbery, so many names i cant list, it tells you the trust isbroken and we g brb to rebuild and reimagine and transform how we police in the communities across this country. Again, though, how is that a training issue . A lot of protesters are talking about defunding police, i know you and i have talked about that before. Is that something you would even consider . Well, you know, i think its much more complicated than simply defunding a Police Department. And ive shared this with you before, anderson. When i look at the Police Budget. Im looking at pensions, salaries, capital cost and workers compensation. I dont have a lot of fluff embedded into our Police Budget, but we are reimaging our corrections budget. We transferred 60 of the budget towards Community Based programming and personnel and were closing down our jail in atlanta, turning it into a center of equity, wellness and health and so i think that youve got to look at where youre trying to go and then figure out how to get there. What people are saying is we want more money towards our communities. We want to make sure that were that theres money left over for our Community Centers and programming. I think thats an important conversation but doesnt necessarily mean it has to come out of a Police Budget line item because that just may not be the practical way to achieve what were all trying to achieve. Mayor keasha lance bottoms, appreciate it. 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