Concerned about kids returning to classrooms are statements that could be wildly misleading about the risk. I would like to see the schools open, open 10 100 and well do it safely and carefully but when you look at the statistics i read having to do with children andimpressive. They have very strong immune systems. You wouldnt understand the children go back to school, they go back to home and some live with grandparents, this is a risk. They do say they dont transmit very easily and a lot of people say they dont transmit and were looking at that and studying, john, very hard that particular subject, that they dont bring it home with them. Now, they dont catch it easily. They dont bring it home easily and if they do catch it, they get better fast. Were looking at that fact. That is a fact store and were looking at that very strongly. Well be reporting about that. Keeping them honest, a new large highly regarded study out just this week from south korea cdc the president might have mentioned but did not. It shows that children ages 10 and up are just as good at transmitting the virus as adults and if any of the experts, dr. Fauci, dr. Birx or redfield have been there, they might have been asked about that. I dont think we really got an explanation yesterday why the Health Experts are no longer joining you at these briefings. Can you explain why . Because theyre briefing me. Im meeting them. I just spoke to dr. Fauci, dr. Birx is right outside and they are giving me all of everything they know as of this point in time and im giving the information to you and i think its probably a very concise way of doing it. It seems to be working out very well. Very well perhaps for the president in that there is no trusted person sharing the podium to correct him when he turns from the science. We learned that dr. Birx concerns about the science are precisely what held up the new school guidelines. The president also strayed from the science when he talked about a cure as though it were just around the corner. That would be great if we could go into the hospital and just cure people and were at a position where actually were able to a certain extend with what we have right now and we think in a very short period of time, well be able to do that. So keeping them honest, as nice as those gra mat ticmangle were true, there is no evidence they are or no evidence were actually able to a certain extend with what we have right now and we think in a very short period of time will be able to do that. Nor is there any evidence to support the president s optimism on testing. He pointed the fact 50 million tests have been done in this country but did not mention people have to wait all day to get them and wait up to two or three weeks for results. That is even if they qualify to get them. Some states are now limiting who gets tested again despite the president s claim months ago that anyone who wants to get tested can. You dont have to believe us, take it from a republican. I just feel its taking us a long, long time to get to a point where we have rapid testing, which we dont have yet, ample testing, which we dont have, personal protective equipment thats still in short supply in certain places. Look at other nations. Look at germany. The e. U. , they had some tough times as we did but they came out of them and were still struggling in part because of lack of effective oversight of this process. When asked by manu raju if hes satisfied with the testing situation, republican senator bill cassidy a doctor said quote, i dont think anybody is satisfied with it. Except perhaps the man who can get tested whenever he wants along with all the people around him. Early on in the briefing, the president under scored how deadly this pandemic has been to american seniors in Nursing Homes and that much is true and its a trog agedy but we said something remarkable in light of what he had just said seconds before. From the beginning, we have made it our top priority to shelter our seniors. In early march, we announced guidelines suspending all medically unnecessary visits to Nursing Homes and prioritized resources for those facilities. And we gave it a very strong priority. Mr. President with all due respect to the office, and ac acknowledging there is blame to go around, if protecting seniors was a priority from the beginning, why have so many seniors died . Why cant people get tested . If youre so adamant about sending kids back to school, why isnt there a plan to do it safely and if youre working on a very, very powerful National Strategy to fight the disease that took more lives in this country than anyplace on earth, where was it almost 143,000 american lives ago . Prospeerspective from dr. Sanja gupta, also kathleen who served as Health Secretary in the obama administration. Secretary, you know, the president delivered his second News Conference in two nights but we still were not presented with a coordinated federal plan to beat the virus. Were nearly at 4 million new cases, daily briefings for the president are one thing but action is another so what do you make of what hes saying versus doing . Well, i have a feeling tonight once again that the president lives in an alternative universe. Im not sure who is beaming up information to him but it doesnt match any of the facts that i know. As you say, we just exceeded 1,000 deaths yesterday its likely well do it again today. That is on the uptick. Its not a very good job. The kizer Family Foundation documented that cases in hot spot states in Nursing Homes are once again on the rise at an alarming rate, increasing at about four times the case rate in nonhot spot states so once again, Nursing Homes are vulnerable even with the tightest lockdown rules in the world. I keep hearing about lots of shortages of ppe in Nursing Homes but they are not in good shape. Parents are terrified about sending their kids to school with really no clear guidance, no clear information and on Mitch Mcconnells desk is a package of resources for cities and states that they could use to hire additional cleaning crews, get additional spaces, hire additional personnel to accompany kids so that you could break them into smaller groups. None of that has happened, and once again, the president declares we are doing a very good job. We have a cure around the corner. I cant imagine who is suggesting that is even a possibility or what in the world that means. So im really alarmed. Finally, he said in his press conference, john, that, youligh troops to come to chicago and reminded me about Health Issues because i listened to him several times. She clearly does not want troops. Im with the scientists on this information because nothing, im glad you have dr. Gupta on but the president is once again giving really dangerously false information to the American Public. Well get to chicago, i promise, in a minute and the issue of a cure but sanjay, speaking as a parent, i think more and more confused than anything else, more confused than frightened and when you heard the president say he wants schools 100 open and say children have strong immune systems and dont catch it easily and dont bring it home easily, there is a study this week that significauggests some different so where is the science . Yeah, this study out of south korea is a good study. This is a little hard issue to study for particularly Young Children because if you think about it, john, since sort of middle of march, the younger children have largely be at home. So they havent been part of these huge studies. So we dont have a lot of data on that. But in south korea when they looked at kids 10 and older, they found they were harboring as much virus in their mouth and nose and transmitting as much virus as adults. He also said kids have stronger immune systems. Actually, young kids and very older people for example are much more likely to get sick from the flu because their immune systems are weaker and thats always been the concern here. It is true that children are less likely to get very sick from this and its still not entirely clear why, but this issue of them still having the virus and them being able to transmit is a significant one, and i think the one thing that is true that the science really bares out is if you live in a community where a lot of virus is spreading, youre much more likely to come in contact with people that have the virus and much more likely when the schools reopen to contribute to significant increases in spread. I can just show you, john, weve seen this graph before but show the israel graph what happens in certain places when schools start to reopen, you can get a sense that you suddenly have a significant uptick. This is what were trying to avoid. Sanjay, what about the cure . I imagine no one was more surprised than dr. Anthony fauci or dr. Redfield of the cdc to hear that were on the verge of a cure. I dont know what hes talking about. I mean, presumably talking about a vaccine. There is antibody therapies and weve done stories on that. Were not on the verge of it. Its tough. It is why we do need to have these scientists there in the room, frankly, you know. I mean, there is stuff thats been said. I think having the briefing is a good idea because it reminds people were in the middle of the worst Public Health disaster of our lifetime and its good to remind people of that but sometimes things are said that are wrong and dangerous and sadly, they need to be fact checked realtime. I think he was talking about the vaccine. There is optimism around the vaccine. Its only phase one data. Secretary sibilas, how long can we wait . I dont know. Im alarmed at a couple of things around the school has been identify and basically it said keep kids six feet apart, do a lot of sanitation and cleaning issues, wash your hands, wear masks. I dont know how complicated that is. Thats been the guidance all along. Im alarmed that what maybe happening is some kind of variation of that, which would really deviate from the science but clearly, schools, parents, teachers, grandparents need to know what is happening and states i have a you know, sitting here in the state of kansas, unfortunately, our virus is back on an uptick. Lots of counties, thanks to the legislature were able to opt out of the masking requirement so weve seen now an uptick in virus and the governor has just suggested that schools delay until labor day instead of mid august. The school board today voted 44 on a tie vote to allow counties to make that decision, but nobody knows what exactly the guidance will be and were talking about 3. 5, four weeks from now where kids are supposed to be back in school as our virus count continues to go up. Thats very dangerous in lots of parts of kansas and lots of parts of the country. Yeah, Something Like back to school shopping. Sanjay, a study that caught peoples attention today and needs more clarity has to do with immunity and the antibodies. This new study suggestions that people with mild cases of covid start to lose their immunity every 36 days it gets cut in half or lose your antibodies every 36 days is a more accurate way of saying it. Explain. Yeah, i think that that is a more accurate way of explaining it. There is two studies that came out of china and italy earlier which basically showed the same the more antibodies you make. Thats not entirely surprising but there is a significant difference between the sickest people and people who had minimal or no symptoms in terms of the antibodies and study that showed your antibodies start to wayne every few weeks, you know, they go down by a significant percentage. What we dont know, john, is does that mean youre also losing immunity . This is to your clarification. Antibodies are easy to measure. We measure those and use them as a corelative. If you think about this, we have not really seen reinfection clusters, right . If you did lose immunity two to three weeks after infection, we would start to see more than anecdotal reports here and there of reinfections. Were not. There is other parts to the immune system that are harder to measure but important. T cells for example. The core of the immune system that can quickly ramp up antibody production in response to a virus. They can attack the virus in other ways, as well. So i think the jury is still out on this and i think that i get that its alarming but were not seeing those reinfections. I think people are immune still longer than we think. We dont know how long, how strong, the longer than a few weeks. So important to reiterate. As of now, we havent seen clear evidence of reintefection and y think we would have by now. San j sanjay and secretary, thank you. Good to be with you. 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Thats what friends are for. Ask your veterinarian for apoquel next to you, apoquel is a dogs best friend. More breaking news tonight. President trump says hell order more federal agents to prevent the spread of lawlessness the crime wave democrats have been unable to control. Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot who was the subjek of several pointed remarks said she would welcome actual partnership but we do not welcome dictatorship. Like wise, New York Times tom freed man writes, quote, some president s when they get in trouble before an election try to wag the dog but starting a war abroad. Donald trump seems ready to wag the dog by starting a war at home. Be afraid. He might get his wish. Many federal agents are under the control of security created after the attacks on september 11th. Imoi hdbook by trying to turn the American People against each other and presenting him as the singular source of law and order. What do you make of that . Im disappointed in my president because it seems like a reality tv approach to deal with a very serious problem and if they are serious about dealing with the urban crime in chicago or elsewhere, well use chicago since the president has identified that is the place for the surge, lets check this out. 200 officers and by the way, they are not his personal issue but hes going to send in 200 officers, good men and women, no doubt about that to work with 13,000 police, men and women no doubt with a sudden surge and they may have a few arrests and may have a few in prisonmemprisd nothing in this plan, im not sure they have a plan. If they talk to the mayor ex chief of police and et cetera, et set tree acetera and leave i weeks and lawlessness will reemerge and under pin the l lawlessness. Its a disappointing response to a serious problem but its typical of somebody who thinks reality tv is real. You just use the phrase personal militia to describe what the president is trying to do here and ive heard you say that before in regards to what he has done in portland with dhs officers. What do you mean by that . I mean that the men and women in not only dhs but throughout the federal Law Enforcement agencies and many, many agencies go to work every single day to try to provide safe and secure communities all around this country but you cannot secure the country from inside the beltway. So the best thing you can do is deploy these federal agents, good men and women to work in congestion in cooperation with the state and local Law Enforcement but you just dont pick up the phone and order them into any community and i would say really will i speak for republicans or democrats or anybody in elected office. I doubt there is a republican or democrat today, mayor or governor that wouldnt contest unilateral incarceration of federal agents without coordination with state and local Law Enforcement officials. I just dont think that would happen or should it, by the way. You said it would be a cold day in hell before you agree to that. Whats your advice . Whats your advice to the governors and mayors where these troops are being sent . Well, i think im going to take listen, i think the mayor of chicago handled it beautifully. She said she wanted to be cautiously optimistic a beautiful and kind response in spite of the decoloration,s from the white house but i want her to be cautiously optimistic that the optimism will fade if these agents dont sit down with local officials and let them help derive the process and that optimism will fade if they make arrests and have a video camera follow them around and do their job and leave in a week or two. I think we ought to take a words, we want to be cautiously optimistic but this is a serious problem. The involvement of several hundred agents is a good start but it has to be coordinated with so