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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 November 17, 2020

Reopen and resume our lives and put this behind us and not just have thanksgiving and christmas but next thanksgiving and christmas, we have to do everything possible. That the American People have issued a mandate quoting him they want us to cooperate and deliver results, he said. He did not mention President Trump when he said those specific words. With the good news of a possible vaccine comes in need of distribution of it and rising cases across the country calls for coordination between current government officials and in coming administration. Thats not happening. Thats still not happening because the current president wholl leave office on january 20th whether he likes it or not is still blocking the in coming biden team. President elect was asked about that this afternoon. What do you see of your transition given President Trumps delay smooth transfer of power. More people may die if we dont coordinate. Look. As my chief of staff, ron klain, have said, a vaccine is important. How do you get the vaccine, how do we get 300 million americans vaccinated . Whats the game plan . It is a huge under taken to get it done and prioritize those greatest in need and cooperate with the World Health Organization and the rest of the world dealing with this. They say they have this Warp Speed Program not only dealt with getting vaccines but how to distribute this. If we have to wait until january 20th to start that planning, it puts us behind over a month and a half. It is important it is done at a coordination now or rapidly as we can get it done. Quoting to the 46th president of the United States, more people may die if we dont coordinate. Rural americans are dying at 3. 5 times at the rate of urban americans. Case loads exploding across the country. More than 153,000 cases right now and counting today. On sunday we crossed the 11 million mark and cases total. They are coming quicker every month. It took us 98 days to reach that first million cases in this country. This latest million to go from ten to millions took six days. It is serious out there. It is all handson deck time. For his part, dr. Fauci adplgre we need a functioning transition. It is like passing the baton in a race. You dont want to stop and give it to somebody. You want to essentially keep going. Thats what transition is. It certainly would make things smoothly. You think it would be a good idea if your team would be able to work with the Biden Harris Transition Team right now in terms of whats best for the Public Health of the American People. Of course, jake. Thats obvious. It would be better if we can start work ing with them. It is obvious. No matter how much the president s feelings are hurt or hopes stash, it does not matter. One mans hurt ang, anger and f is nothing even if hes the president of the United States. You can now see in any hospital in america. In icu beds where people are gasping for breath and life. You want to talk about hurt and disappointments and feelings . How about feelings for them . Those desperate gasps for breaths. Thats what we should be hearing and listening to and talking about and doing everything we can to help. Lets stop talking about the man sitting in the white house huffing and puffing and anger and spewing lies. His feelings dont matter. Certainly not more than the feelings of family members, some over paid andover wo over workea few minutes to holdup the phone or their family can see their mom or dad, afraid tonight they may not make it through. How can the man says he cares about americans and above all that, how can he delay the transition. How can he pmake it so that thee is not a seamless transition that possibly interrupt the efforts to distribute vaccines to all of us. How can he not have a seamless transition and coordination so that kak with researcontact wits not interrupted. How can anyone do that . Admiral gerald said over the weekend it has been five months sinces the president attended a task force meeting. Five months. It is fine. It is the choice he made. History will be the judge. Now there is work to be done. There are new people and they are ready to do it. Next week the cdc starts to process determining which of us, which americans will be the first to get the vaccine. Thats an incredible important decision. Not everyone is at the front of the line. It is obvious why you would want to give access to the new administration. About 65 days, it becomes their decisions too and they have to make it work. In our democracy, the people speak and the people change the course of history. Thats what they did. Thats what it is already happening. The president is free to fight this in court all the way to inauguration day. Hes been laughed out of courts. His lawyers are dropping left and right. His time is over. Let the new administration have a transition and lets help americans through this crisis. A medical perspective of the vaccine and the damage cause to our Publics Health because the president s refusal for a transition. Our dr. Sanjay gupta and dr. Freidman. More people will die if the trumps people is stone walling the transition. What are the kinds of things or the knowledge that had to be passed or information and logistics and all of that. Transition are enormously complicated even without a pandemic. We are about to start the most complex Vaccination Campaign in americas history with multiple different vaccines, two dose series and extreme temperature requirements and environment of lack of trust and need of Community Engagement and communication and all of that stuff is going to go from one team on january 19th to another team on january 20th before most of the vaccinations will have been done. It is essential that there is good collaboration and coordination to pass the baton. Any slip is going to be less rapid roll out and improvement in our response even shorter vaccine to curtailing transmissions and stopping clusters and cases and protecting people in Nursing Homes and elsewhere. All of this on strbstruction ge in the way of not just one group talking to another but of the government being able to work around the clock to protect american lives. The Vice President ahead of the Task Force Led a call of the countrys governors today of his First Time Since september 29th. He tweeted out these pictures where he appears to be the only person not wearing a mask in the room. This is the cdc director dr. Redfiere redfield seating next to pence. Especially pence has been part of the spread of this virus, i mean people around pence. Again it would be funny if it was not so deadly serious. Yeah, i have a hard time understanding this. This is going to be one of the great mysteries when we look back on this of the whole thing of the masks and those pictures. This is becoming politicized. Now you are in a room full of people, d people, doctors and scientists all wearing masks. We understand being indoor settings with this virus and hes ahead of the Coronavirus Task force. We all know how efficient their testing have been. They have been lying about that from the beginning. It makes no sense. Hes the person who went to the mayors clinic and to a covid war and did not wear a mask and apologized for that saying he should have done it. It feels like this lesson has not been learned by this future ca force. They are leaving. Dr. Freidman. They can do a whole a lot of damage and peoples lives are hanging at the balance. The distribution of vaccines and today we learned modernas vaccine is 95 effective. Thats great news. Should the Trump Administration be getting credit for this. I know the fpizer was not apart of operational warp speed. The idea that you would fund the manufacture the same time you Fund Development so you cut a few months out of delivery. Thats a great idea. The idea that they pet on four different vaccines so if any of them dont work out, there will be others that work out. Funded in essence, they guarantee a mark for it. That was reassure to pfizer. Vaccines dont stop epidemics. Those defepends on trust. Assurance it is not going to be used for political purposes and it is fortunate that the fda and the cdc have stuck to their guns and it is the fdas advisory thatll use standard procedure. It is the cdc which calls the acip. It will look at the data and make science based recommendation for how we can be fair and save the most lives. States and local governments need to be doing a lot of planning. I would say we are ahead of schedule on Vaccine Development but we are behind schedule on how vaccine distributions. Thats a big complex and crucially important under taken. Sanjay, whats your view on the moderna news . I think it is very exciting news. The idea that we didnt know this type of vaccine was going to work. This mrna, this is the first time well have a vaccine like this. But just you know dr. Freidens point is an important one. We put a lot of eggs in the vaccines bag ketel marte. But at the same time we kind of ignored everything else. The things that we should have done all along can still do having been done, it reminds me of this commercial on tv larry the purpose le guy. I can eat whatever i want as long as i take the pill. The vaccine is the purple pill. We still have to eat right and do the right thing. We have not as a country been doing that. It got to be widely distributed and taken. Sanjay, appreciate it. Dr. Freiden as well. Our senior correspondent, pamela brown, is joining us. What are you learning . The president was upset when he found out his campaign was dropping the arizona lawsuit. We summon officials at the office. Rudy giuliani accuse youed lawyers have been lying. The odds were stacked against him and he would not be able to change the outcome of the election. Rudy called them liars. Justin clark fired back at him and calling him an fing ahole. The next day Rudy Giuliani was put in charge by President Trump. And rudys strategy is essentially to go guns ablazing fight until the bitter end and focus on conspiracy theories. Rudy has been pushing thesis Conspiracy Theory made pie the companys dominion. There is no evidence to support this. There is no cases filed or evidence shown. Thats where rudys focus is. Hes been pushing that with trump and making him think there is a chance if he pushes with these legal cases that really are just a long shot. The ones that are happening right now are just a long shot. We are seeing some shake up with rudy at the helm now. Today there was the second set of lawyers who will replace in the pennsylvania case. I am told that was directly related to rudy. I am sure it is a cracked team who have replaced them and appointed by Rudy Giuliani. Family members who did not agree with this approach. There are two camps here. One camp you have Rudy Giuliani aligned with the president s son and soninlaw. Great company. They have the attitude of we just need to keep fighting and never give up. Guns ablazing. Thats one camp. Everyone else is in consensus that there is nor path he path the president. And ivanka trump and Jared Kushner and the Trumps Campaign lawyers, they know there is no chance for the president to o r overcome this. They toll td the president that. Talking to sources, there has been a shift. Last week sources the president would come out and Say Something and allow for the transition would happen. Now there is a change in tune and theyre very concerned thats not going to happen with rudy at the helm. Andreas lubitz anderson. Pamela brown, appreciate it. More on the lawsuits and how long President Trump can holdup the transition, our jeff zeleny is joining us now. Whats president elect biden moves now . Reporter it is mostly pro bono, theyre keeping their eyes on these cases everywhere. First and foremost, i am told it is the hand recount in gaeorgia. They are recounting and going through auditing and they are not coming up with any irregularities or even a big changes in votes. A few things are changing here and there. The bidens lawyers are sort of watching this and watching it play out as timisticie is ticki away. If they are nervous, they are not conveying it. Rather glee fall that most of these court cases or massive majority should go your way. President trumps niece, shes hear to discuss his end game for all his looawsuit sues may be. And later on, trumps people is backtracking. The prosecutor was already a target of the domestic kidnapping blot. This guy is the president s ears. States top law officials will join us ahead. 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What does it lead them to do. For some of the real warriors in republican battles and it is interesting, they have not been able to prove fraud. That was the predicate for most of the cases. They had a 50,000 poll watch wa army. Could not improve it with them. We see fraud cases melt away and restlawn Rudy Giuliani is talking about conspiracy about voting machines. There are still challenges happening in pennsylvania. The trumps legal team withdrew their requests but revise their suits on cure ballots. Can you explain whats going on there . Thats a major concession. While there is still language in the complaint, the actual relief has nothing to do with all those challenged ballots. It is down to a cure which means some counties in pennsylvania allow voters who made mistakes on absentee ballots to cure them by filling in the missing information. Some counties do not do that. The Trump Campaign have a weak, equal protection that all voters should be tweeted the same. Theyre relying on bush verses gore. I can tell you that bush verses gore is about something very different than this. There is no evidence of that, right . There is no evidence. Before any veote is counted and after election day, there are te t tests that run on all the machine. You run it through the machine to be sure the machine is counting it accurately. That takes place. In pl plus, you will see you will get a ballot paper trail. Thats what they are recounting on the machines, you will be able to see proof of that as well. Ben gingserg. Joining me now is mary trump. President trumps niece. How my family created the worlds most dangerous man. Mary trump. Youre a psychologist as well as a family member. Whats going on . It does not matter, hes leaving. All of that but it does not matter. Never the less may affect what we have to live through for the next 60 plus days. What do you think is going on . I agree with you. It does not matter if he can see or acts like an adult and allow for a smooth transition. None of that matters in the sense that he lost. President elect biden will be president come january 20th. It does matter in the sense that it delays the in coming administrati administrations ability to deal with the multiple crisis that we are facing. It continues to undermine peoples faith. I would say the only reason donalds behavior is completely i immaturity is the republicans allowing it to happen. The coddling of him and the fear that still exists. There has been talks that there be some sort of a reckoning if President Trump is gone. It does not seem like there is any reckoning. Seems like hes going to hang over their heads that hell run again and ted cruz and marco rubio are going to be screaming into their pillows because their president ial ambition will be frustrated. Is it on the president s part . Is it just these are the cards of power he still holds and hes going to figure out how to make the most of it. Or as Maggie Habermann says hes living in increment of time. He does not have a plan hes just watching the show and seeing what happens. It is actually a combination of both things. Fundamentally it is what maggie says. Donald lives in the moment. His arc was did i just win . Am i going to win right after this . That never changes. It is an

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