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When hes made some of the remarks that, for example, challenge the heroism of mr. Mccain, somebody who endured torture and conducted himself with exemplary patriotism. The Republican Party is shocked, and yet that arises out of a culture where those kinds of outrageous attacks have become far too commonplace and get circulated nonstop. Were creating a culture that is not conducive to good policy or good politics. The American People deserve better. The president s remarks come as a new cnn poll gives you a look at whats behind Donald Trumps surging ahead of his gop rivals right now. It sure seems to rest largely on widespread dissatisfaction with washington. 53 of Republican Voters say they do not feel their views are represented by lawmakers right now. Thats nearly double the democrats who share that sentiment. Jake tapper is joining us now, host of the lead and state of the union for more on this. We can bring in all the polls at any point but i want to ask you what you heard from president obama during his trip in Africa Talking about donald trump not once mentioning his name, but mentioning his name multiple times without even being asked. I kind of wonder why you think he thinks its time to take donald trump on now since he seemed to avoid it so much to this point. Reporter hes gone after donald trump before at the white house Correspondents Dinner a few years ago. Trump before that was one of the leading birthers questioning the authenticity of the president s birth certificate and where he was born. President obama, of course, was born in hawaii. But i think president obama not only going after the donald trump remarks but some of the other remarks of the other republicans. I know you will talk later in the program about comments made by former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and also comments by senator ted krus accusing Mitch Mcconnell of lying on the senate floor. Theres been a lot of talk about the language were hearing from the Republican Party. On sunday, yesterday, on state of the Union Donald Trump called in and i asked him what he made of the fact that he is only rising in the polls. Take a listen to what he had to say. They view me as an outsider i guess and now theyre starting to view me not as an outsider because im leading in all the polls and i think theyve been really nice over the last few days. Theyre starting to see whats happening. Theres a movement going on. This is more than me. This is a movement going on. People are tired of these incompetent politicians in washington that cant get anything done. They cant make deals. They cant do anything. Now, of course, trump was in second place in our cnn poll in june and now he is in first place with 18 . This poll was taken entirely after his comments attacking john mccains war heroism so that doesnt seem to have hurt him at all. If anything, it may have helped him. Our poll has him in first place, some state polls hes in second place, very close to scott walker in iowa in the nbc maris poll. But he does have some problems which is a lot of people still dont like the guy. His favorability rating among democrats, unfavorable he was 80 . Independents unfavorable 53 having a hard time getting my numbers out. With the republicans the unfavorable view is 42 . Thats a pretty high unfavorable number for presumably your own party. Reporter it is. Although when you look at the fact that he is running against 15 other republicans and you think about he only really needs to appeal to a small chunk and those individuals really like him and they like what theyre hearing from him, they like his blunt talk, they like the fact that he is certainly not of washington, one wonders where and when it will end because you dont have to win a majority to win a primary. You just have to win a plurality. And the fact is the more the establishment in washington tries to take trump down, the stronger he seems to get fueled by a lot of people who are conservatives and republicans, and they dont like Republican Leadership in washington, d. C. , and donald trump is certainly not of that establishment. In fact, could you observe that he gave money to the democrats in 2006 to help them recapture the house and senate. Thats exactly right. People keep talking about kind of a growth cap that donald trump will have when you look at the unfavorable ratings but we certainly havent seen it to this point. Just as the president called out donald trump, he also called out another republican candidate. Mike huckabee. Saying that the former arkansas governor is trying to one up donald trump in terms of outrageous rhetoric saying huckabees remarks about the iran deal in the president s words would be considered ridiculous if it werent so sad. It started when governor huckabee invoked the holocaust while criticizing the nuclear agreement. This is what he said. This president s Foreign Policy is the most feckless in american history. Hes so naive he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. To the door of the oven. Here now to respond to these comments is Michael Salberg with the Antidefamation League. Your organization put out a statement after Mike Huckabee said what he said saying its completely out of line and unacceptable. Why . References to the holocaust, trying to score rhetorical points at the moment in time when the American People need to hear about the details of the iran deal and understand it, all of those factors, but the primary concern that we expressed was making the analogy to the holocaust. It is inappropriate. Its offensive. And it does cross a line. The holocaust, there was no state of israel for the jewish people. Israel had no allies. And today the United States is israels greatest ally. It trivializes the horror and the memory of the victims of the holocaust and it impacts on the survivors and the descendants of the victims and its not appropriate. It distracts from the kind of conversation that the American Public deserves from its leaders and expects from members of congress in this very critical review period of the Iran Nuclear Deal. This is a critical review period, but its interesting, its important to hear your view that Mike Huckabee does not clearly doesnt seem to agree. Hes not only not backing down, hes sko continuing to discuss this. Just today the Huckabee Campaign put out a statement saying that president obama does not take irans repeated threats seriously and then says for decades irans leaders have pledged to destroy and annihilate and wipe israel off the map with a big holocaust. Have you heard from the Huckabee Campaign . We have not heard directly from the Huckabee Campaign. I think that the response that you just read is hearing from the Huckabee Campaign. The fact is the governors statement is accurate with regard to what iran has said. Its annihilationist comments and behavior, its support for terrorism, hezbollah, hamas attacking israel are serious, serious concerns. Its one of the things that isnt addressed in the jcpoa, the joint comprehensive plan of action on the nuclear deal. Its not a part of the deal. Its something that congress can address and should address. Its one of the questions we raised. Its not inappropriate to raise that concern. It is inappropriate to make a direct analogy to the holocaust, and that was the primary driver for our statement and criticism. So its clear that you have reservations to say the least about the iran deal. Mike huckabee does also. So why do you think hes saying what hes saying . Is he just trying to get a rise out of people . Hes scoring rhetorical points, and, unfortunately, at this particular point, it distracts from the really important questions that need to be addressed carefully, seriously examined and to give congress and our political leaders the space to address some of the weaknesses and concerns that people have, including the antidefamation. Would you vote for a guy who talks about the holocaust like this . I dont want to get involved in my own personal political views are not relevant, quite frankly. The Antidefamation League is an organization, objects to the misuse of holocaust references, and thats what we objected to h here. Thank you for being with us. Two teenagers missing at sea after going out on their boat. The boat has been found, but what about the life jackets . Well speak live with the coast guard next. Plus, a stunning cover showing nearly three dozen women who accuse bill cosby of drugging and assaulting them. Many of their stories we have never heard until now. 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Mom, brian threw a ball in the house new this morning, a briefing from the coast guard taking place this now in the search for two 14yearold boy that is went missing off the florida coast on friday. The u. S. Coast guard is calling the search really a needle in a haystack right now as they scour an area the size an area of sea roughly the size of indiana. The boys boat was found capsized but there is no sign of perry cohen and austin stephanos. This morning perrys mother, pamela, along with his stepfather and their friend and neighbor nfl legend joe namath spoke with cnn. None of us are giving up hope theyre going to find those boys. Obviously its a terrifying experience to be living through. Yes. Second by second. But i have 100 faith that they will find our boys. Terrifying experience, no kidding. Joining us wetis petty officer k barney. Its described as searching for a needle in a haystack. Where does the search stand right now . Yes, maam. Thank you for having me. Right now we are searching, our focus area is 50 nautical miles east of jacksonville. It stretches from Daytona Beach north of jacksonville. Its a huge search area but we have Resources Available to us that are actively searching in those waters. A huge area that spans far north of where they departed from down near jupiter. The boat found north of where they departed from as well. What do you make of the fact now that the boat has been found . How difficult would it be for these boys to survive in the water without their vessel . Its pretty difficult. Weve had cases before where weve had people tread water for over 24 hours alone. But those were adults. These are childre. So its really a scary situation. However, we are pleased to know that the boys have had boating safety courses. They were regulars fishermen, always on the water. Theyre still 14 years old and that thats what makes this case scary. Scary for anyone. Talk to us about these waters. Was there weather in the area and what bad weather in that area would mean because we are, as you said, were talking about two 14yearold boys that seem so young. How experienced do you need to be to really be able to navigate these waters . Well, the thing about the state of florida is that it has a huge Recreational Boating community. Like these two boys, theyre no exception. But at the same time theyre still only 14 years old. Like you said, the search has originated off in the jupiter area and it extended all the way far north to jacksonville and that pretty much is attributed to the weather. The weather for the past week, weve had scattered thunderstorms throughout the state. Weve had low seas, weve had high seas. It really depends where these boys are which will determine where they could end up being depending on the current. Petty officer mark barney. The search under way. Another day for these families hoping something will turn up. We appreciate you giving us an update. Not a problem, maam. Coming up for us, a road rage encounter turns deadly. Two men both calling the police on each other. It ends with one man killed in front of his family. Now the shooter is out of jail and you want to hear the 911 call play out. And new accusers coming forward against bill cosby and look at this, theyre all together on a stunning magazine cover. Hear why these stories are different from the others. With hotels. Com rewards i earn free nights that i can use at any type of hotel with no blackout dates. Which is why most of this legal copy is just instructions on how to win a free trip instructions actually written in this legal copy. Use your dvr to read them. This is the prerecorded voice of captain obvious. I am not a ventriloquist. Nbut your stellar notebook full hangives youn ap calc. The gumption to reach for the sky. Thats that new gear feeling. All hp ink, buy one get one 50 off. Office depot officemax. Gear up for school. Gear up for great. Hows it progressing with the prisoner . Hell tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir. As you were. Where were we . 13 serving 14 service if your boss stops by, you act like youre working. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Wonderful, crazy mornings. We figure you probably dont have time to wait on hold. Thats why at xfinity were hard at work, building new apps like this one that lets you choose a time for us to call you. So instead of waiting on hold, well call you when things are just as wonderful. [phone rings] but a little less crazy. Were doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. Because we should fit into your life. Not the other way around. In a stunning statement of unity against bill cosby, 35 women accusing cosby of Sexual Assault, they now appear on the new cover of new York Magazine all together. You can see it there in the image. All the women seated in the same pose against a white backdrop. The headline reads, cosby, the women, an unwelcome sisterhood. It has interviews with each of the accusers describing the alleged incidents. It includes their difficulty getting people to support them all these years and in some cases were talking decades. Cnns jean casarez joins us. Sometimes a cover like this really is v evocative. We just got a copy of this. You see the chair there, the empty chair, that is for accusers that have not yet come forward, that are still silent that possibly dont have the courage to come up. But this article as you said in depth it focuses on the accusers, quotes from them, what they have to say, but even more than that it goes into really an expose about Sexual Assault and rape as it has evolved through the years because 1960s are when the earliest accusations of Sexual Assault, the latest 2001 20 one 2008. Bill cosby has never been charged or convicted of any crime at all of Sexual Assault, but one thing thats interesting, we have a quote from joan tarshis from this article who you have seen on cnn many times. She says, quote, i didnt realize that i had been raped back then. Rape was done in an alleyway with somebody holding a knife to your throat that you didnt know. There was no date rape back then. I just knew that something horrible had happened, but i couldnt put a name to it. And it talks about that early on rape was the culture of silence and shame, and that younger women are now speaking out, having the courage to do it and social media is their medium to do that. Now, we do also want to say andrew wyatt from bill cosbys camp has said they have no comment at this time, but this article has just come out, and i think also one thing that in regard to social media can be the megaphone, that also denotes a responsibility, right . Because when we think of like another case, the duke rape case, obviously the attorney general found them to be innocent, separate case, but social media also then regards a responsibility on the part we have heard many of their stories. I think we looked and cnn has interviewed 25 of the women. There are 35 on the cover but seeing them altogether, when you hear 25 and when you hear 35 and you see 35, it puts it in a completely different perspective, so that means that there are some ten women, if thats not just the women who havent come forward, if there were more that are now telling their stories for the first time in new York Magazine. What more are we learning about their storyings . I think the thing thats probably the most startling is how similar they are. I think thats the headline. Youre seeing in depth them talking about what they allege happen to them. These are women who didnt know each other but the modus operandi is so similar. The article quotes the 2005 deposition. They analyze some things from the deposition that arent said but they have their own slant to it. So i think the fact is that all these women had to sit down for this these photographs, they did so willingly, and the artistry is amazing, the photography in there. You have to see it. Anycasarez, thanks so much. A case of road rage turns deadly as one man shoots another in front of his family. The chilling 911 calls next. A secret journal, wigs, and other disguises, clue that is suggest the gunman planned the theater shooting well in advance. Well have the latest as investigators visit the crime scene today. Every Auto Insurance policy has a number. But not every Republican Party<\/a> is shocked, and yet that arises out of a culture where those kinds of outrageous attacks have become far too commonplace and get circulated nonstop. Were creating a culture that is not conducive to good policy or good politics. The American People<\/a> deserve better. The president s remarks come as a new cnn poll gives you a look at whats behind Donald Trumps<\/a> surging ahead of his gop rivals right now. It sure seems to rest largely on widespread dissatisfaction with washington. 53 of Republican Voters<\/a> say they do not feel their views are represented by lawmakers right now. Thats nearly double the democrats who share that sentiment. Jake tapper is joining us now, host of the lead and state of the union for more on this. We can bring in all the polls at any point but i want to ask you what you heard from president obama during his trip in Africa Talking<\/a> about donald trump not once mentioning his name, but mentioning his name multiple times without even being asked. I kind of wonder why you think he thinks its time to take donald trump on now since he seemed to avoid it so much to this point. Reporter hes gone after donald trump before at the white house Correspondents Dinner<\/a> a few years ago. Trump before that was one of the leading birthers questioning the authenticity of the president s birth certificate and where he was born. President obama, of course, was born in hawaii. But i think president obama not only going after the donald trump remarks but some of the other remarks of the other republicans. I know you will talk later in the program about comments made by former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee<\/a> and also comments by senator ted krus accusing Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> of lying on the senate floor. Theres been a lot of talk about the language were hearing from the Republican Party<\/a>. On sunday, yesterday, on state of the Union Donald Trump<\/a> called in and i asked him what he made of the fact that he is only rising in the polls. Take a listen to what he had to say. They view me as an outsider i guess and now theyre starting to view me not as an outsider because im leading in all the polls and i think theyve been really nice over the last few days. Theyre starting to see whats happening. Theres a movement going on. This is more than me. This is a movement going on. People are tired of these incompetent politicians in washington that cant get anything done. They cant make deals. They cant do anything. Now, of course, trump was in second place in our cnn poll in june and now he is in first place with 18 . This poll was taken entirely after his comments attacking john mccains war heroism so that doesnt seem to have hurt him at all. If anything, it may have helped him. Our poll has him in first place, some state polls hes in second place, very close to scott walker in iowa in the nbc maris poll. But he does have some problems which is a lot of people still dont like the guy. His favorability rating among democrats, unfavorable he was 80 . Independents unfavorable 53 having a hard time getting my numbers out. With the republicans the unfavorable view is 42 . Thats a pretty high unfavorable number for presumably your own party. Reporter it is. Although when you look at the fact that he is running against 15 other republicans and you think about he only really needs to appeal to a small chunk and those individuals really like him and they like what theyre hearing from him, they like his blunt talk, they like the fact that he is certainly not of washington, one wonders where and when it will end because you dont have to win a majority to win a primary. You just have to win a plurality. And the fact is the more the establishment in washington tries to take trump down, the stronger he seems to get fueled by a lot of people who are conservatives and republicans, and they dont like Republican Leadership<\/a> in washington, d. C. , and donald trump is certainly not of that establishment. In fact, could you observe that he gave money to the democrats in 2006 to help them recapture the house and senate. Thats exactly right. People keep talking about kind of a growth cap that donald trump will have when you look at the unfavorable ratings but we certainly havent seen it to this point. Just as the president called out donald trump, he also called out another republican candidate. Mike huckabee. Saying that the former arkansas governor is trying to one up donald trump in terms of outrageous rhetoric saying huckabees remarks about the iran deal in the president s words would be considered ridiculous if it werent so sad. It started when governor huckabee invoked the holocaust while criticizing the nuclear agreement. This is what he said. This president s Foreign Policy<\/a> is the most feckless in american history. Hes so naive he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. To the door of the oven. Here now to respond to these comments is Michael Salberg<\/a> with the Antidefamation League<\/a>. Your organization put out a statement after Mike Huckabee<\/a> said what he said saying its completely out of line and unacceptable. Why . References to the holocaust, trying to score rhetorical points at the moment in time when the American People<\/a> need to hear about the details of the iran deal and understand it, all of those factors, but the primary concern that we expressed was making the analogy to the holocaust. It is inappropriate. Its offensive. And it does cross a line. The holocaust, there was no state of israel for the jewish people. Israel had no allies. And today the United States<\/a> is israels greatest ally. It trivializes the horror and the memory of the victims of the holocaust and it impacts on the survivors and the descendants of the victims and its not appropriate. It distracts from the kind of conversation that the American Public<\/a> deserves from its leaders and expects from members of congress in this very critical review period of the Iran Nuclear Deal<\/a>. This is a critical review period, but its interesting, its important to hear your view that Mike Huckabee<\/a> does not clearly doesnt seem to agree. Hes not only not backing down, hes sko continuing to discuss this. Just today the Huckabee Campaign<\/a> put out a statement saying that president obama does not take irans repeated threats seriously and then says for decades irans leaders have pledged to destroy and annihilate and wipe israel off the map with a big holocaust. Have you heard from the Huckabee Campaign<\/a> . We have not heard directly from the Huckabee Campaign<\/a>. I think that the response that you just read is hearing from the Huckabee Campaign<\/a>. The fact is the governors statement is accurate with regard to what iran has said. Its annihilationist comments and behavior, its support for terrorism, hezbollah, hamas attacking israel are serious, serious concerns. Its one of the things that isnt addressed in the jcpoa, the joint comprehensive plan of action on the nuclear deal. Its not a part of the deal. Its something that congress can address and should address. Its one of the questions we raised. Its not inappropriate to raise that concern. It is inappropriate to make a direct analogy to the holocaust, and that was the primary driver for our statement and criticism. So its clear that you have reservations to say the least about the iran deal. Mike huckabee does also. So why do you think hes saying what hes saying . Is he just trying to get a rise out of people . Hes scoring rhetorical points, and, unfortunately, at this particular point, it distracts from the really important questions that need to be addressed carefully, seriously examined and to give congress and our political leaders the space to address some of the weaknesses and concerns that people have, including the antidefamation. Would you vote for a guy who talks about the holocaust like this . I dont want to get involved in my own personal political views are not relevant, quite frankly. The Antidefamation League<\/a> is an organization, objects to the misuse of holocaust references, and thats what we objected to h here. Thank you for being with us. Two teenagers missing at sea after going out on their boat. The boat has been found, but what about the life jackets . Well speak live with the coast guard next. Plus, a stunning cover showing nearly three dozen women who accuse bill cosby of drugging and assaulting them. Many of their stories we have never heard until now. And new discoveries from the secret journal of the man who opened fire inside a Movie Theater<\/a> in louisiana. Hear what investigators have found. Its a go den opportunity to discover the luxury of freedom. To venture further. To experience more. To make a routine of breaking with routine. Come in to the lexus golden opportunity sales event, where youll find some of the best offers of the year on our most capable models. For a limited time. This is the pursuit of perfection. Welcome to fort green sheets. Welcome to castle bravestorm. Its full of cool stuff, like my second in command. And my trusty bow. And free of stuff i dont like. And in my castle we only eat chex cereal. Chex cereal. Its full of delicious crunchability. No artificial flavors, and its glutenfree. And thats something even my brother. Sister can understand. Mom, brian threw a ball in the house new this morning, a briefing from the coast guard taking place this now in the search for two 14yearold boy that is went missing off the florida coast on friday. The u. S. Coast guard is calling the search really a needle in a haystack right now as they scour an area the size an area of sea roughly the size of indiana. The boys boat was found capsized but there is no sign of perry cohen and austin stephanos. This morning perrys mother, pamela, along with his stepfather and their friend and neighbor nfl legend joe namath spoke with cnn. None of us are giving up hope theyre going to find those boys. Obviously its a terrifying experience to be living through. Yes. Second by second. But i have 100 faith that they will find our boys. Terrifying experience, no kidding. Joining us wetis petty officer k barney. Its described as searching for a needle in a haystack. Where does the search stand right now . Yes, maam. Thank you for having me. Right now we are searching, our focus area is 50 nautical miles east of jacksonville. It stretches from Daytona Beach<\/a> north of jacksonville. Its a huge search area but we have Resources Available<\/a> to us that are actively searching in those waters. A huge area that spans far north of where they departed from down near jupiter. The boat found north of where they departed from as well. What do you make of the fact now that the boat has been found . How difficult would it be for these boys to survive in the water without their vessel . Its pretty difficult. Weve had cases before where weve had people tread water for over 24 hours alone. But those were adults. These are childre. So its really a scary situation. However, we are pleased to know that the boys have had boating safety courses. They were regulars fishermen, always on the water. Theyre still 14 years old and that thats what makes this case scary. Scary for anyone. Talk to us about these waters. Was there weather in the area and what bad weather in that area would mean because we are, as you said, were talking about two 14yearold boys that seem so young. How experienced do you need to be to really be able to navigate these waters . Well, the thing about the state of florida is that it has a huge Recreational Boating<\/a> community. Like these two boys, theyre no exception. But at the same time theyre still only 14 years old. Like you said, the search has originated off in the jupiter area and it extended all the way far north to jacksonville and that pretty much is attributed to the weather. The weather for the past week, weve had scattered thunderstorms throughout the state. Weve had low seas, weve had high seas. It really depends where these boys are which will determine where they could end up being depending on the current. Petty officer mark barney. The search under way. Another day for these families hoping something will turn up. We appreciate you giving us an update. Not a problem, maam. Coming up for us, a road rage encounter turns deadly. Two men both calling the police on each other. It ends with one man killed in front of his family. Now the shooter is out of jail and you want to hear the 911 call play out. And new accusers coming forward against bill cosby and look at this, theyre all together on a stunning magazine cover. Hear why these stories are different from the others. With hotels. Com rewards i earn free nights that i can use at any type of hotel with no blackout dates. Which is why most of this legal copy is just instructions on how to win a free trip instructions actually written in this legal copy. Use your dvr to read them. This is the prerecorded voice of captain obvious. I am not a ventriloquist. Nbut your stellar notebook full hangives youn ap calc. The gumption to reach for the sky. Thats that new gear feeling. All hp ink, buy one get one 50 off. Office depot officemax. Gear up for school. Gear up for great. Hows it progressing with the prisoner . Hell tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir. As you were. Where were we . 13 serving 14 service if your boss stops by, you act like youre working. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Wonderful, crazy mornings. We figure you probably dont have time to wait on hold. Thats why at xfinity were hard at work, building new apps like this one that lets you choose a time for us to call you. So instead of waiting on hold, well call you when things are just as wonderful. [phone rings] but a little less crazy. Were doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. Because we should fit into your life. Not the other way around. In a stunning statement of unity against bill cosby, 35 women accusing cosby of Sexual Assault<\/a>, they now appear on the new cover of new York Magazine<\/a> all together. You can see it there in the image. All the women seated in the same pose against a white backdrop. The headline reads, cosby, the women, an unwelcome sisterhood. It has interviews with each of the accusers describing the alleged incidents. It includes their difficulty getting people to support them all these years and in some cases were talking decades. Cnns jean casarez joins us. Sometimes a cover like this really is v evocative. We just got a copy of this. You see the chair there, the empty chair, that is for accusers that have not yet come forward, that are still silent that possibly dont have the courage to come up. But this article as you said in depth it focuses on the accusers, quotes from them, what they have to say, but even more than that it goes into really an expose about Sexual Assault<\/a> and rape as it has evolved through the years because 1960s are when the earliest accusations of Sexual Assault<\/a>, the latest 2001 20 one 2008. Bill cosby has never been charged or convicted of any crime at all of Sexual Assault<\/a>, but one thing thats interesting, we have a quote from joan tarshis from this article who you have seen on cnn many times. She says, quote, i didnt realize that i had been raped back then. Rape was done in an alleyway with somebody holding a knife to your throat that you didnt know. There was no date rape back then. I just knew that something horrible had happened, but i couldnt put a name to it. And it talks about that early on rape was the culture of silence and shame, and that younger women are now speaking out, having the courage to do it and social media is their medium to do that. Now, we do also want to say andrew wyatt from bill cosbys camp has said they have no comment at this time, but this article has just come out, and i think also one thing that in regard to social media can be the megaphone, that also denotes a responsibility, right . Because when we think of like another case, the duke rape case, obviously the attorney general found them to be innocent, separate case, but social media also then regards a responsibility on the part we have heard many of their stories. I think we looked and cnn has interviewed 25 of the women. There are 35 on the cover but seeing them altogether, when you hear 25 and when you hear 35 and you see 35, it puts it in a completely different perspective, so that means that there are some ten women, if thats not just the women who havent come forward, if there were more that are now telling their stories for the first time in new York Magazine<\/a>. What more are we learning about their storyings . I think the thing thats probably the most startling is how similar they are. I think thats the headline. Youre seeing in depth them talking about what they allege happen to them. These are women who didnt know each other but the modus operandi is so similar. The article quotes the 2005 deposition. They analyze some things from the deposition that arent said but they have their own slant to it. So i think the fact is that all these women had to sit down for this these photographs, they did so willingly, and the artistry is amazing, the photography in there. You have to see it. Anycasarez, thanks so much. A case of road rage turns deadly as one man shoots another in front of his family. The chilling 911 calls next. A secret journal, wigs, and other disguises, clue that is suggest the gunman planned the theater shooting well in advance. Well have the latest as investigators visit the crime scene today. Every Auto Insurance<\/a> policy has a number. But not every Insurance Company<\/a> understands the life behind it. Those who have served our nation. Have earned the very best service in return. Usaa. We know what it means to serve. Get an Auto Insurance<\/a> quote and see why 92 of our members plan to stay for life. 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You take your hand and throw it in park as soon as im stopped. Doyle says gonzalez threatened him and so he opened fire. Police say he shot gonzalez five times as his wife and family watched in horror. Gonzalez did not have a gun. Listen here to the 911 calls as this was happening. Were going on home. Were going home. I guess were not. Hes got a gun. Get somebody here now. Dont shoot ive got 911 on the phone. Its just horrific. You can hear the five shots right there. Police say doyle held gonzalezs family then at gunpoint until police arrived. A whole lot to get through in this case. Lets talk about it with criminal defense attorney page pate joining us now. Page, thank you very much. It is amazing to hear this entire confrontation play out between the 911 calls. I want to get your take in general what you think of this case. One man says its selfdefense. The other man says he was just following him home to get his address. Where do you land on this . Well, kate, i think thats the critical question. What was the reason mr. Gonzalez followed mr. Doyle home . Mr. Doyle has an absolute legal right to protect himself and to protect his home with the use of deadly force if he believes, if he reasonably believes that mr. Gonzalez is coming there to hurt him. Now, we know mr. Gonzalez hation told Law Enforcement<\/a> that, no, i just wanted to go by the house. I want to get his address and file a complaint, but we can hear in part of the 911 call the dispatcher clearly telling mr. Gonzalez no, no, no, do not follow him home. And i think thats what happened here. We had a typical situation of road rage, tempers were flaring, but at that point you need to deescalate, not go chase the guy down to his house and end up in the tragic situation we have. That explains perhaps why he ended up there and why he ended up dead, but legally speaking, does what happened on the road even matter with what happened at the house . You have a guy on his own property, this doyle guy, who claims he defended himself on his own property, so is the legal issue really what gonzalez did the moment he got there . Thats the critical issue, john, but at that moment mr. Doyle is certainly entitled to rely on what he saw before. Did mr. Doyle see mr. Gonzalez acting in such a manner that he felt that if this guy follows me only hes going to do something violent . I have a reasonable fear for either myself, my wife, or my home that this guy seeing how mad he was on the road earlier is going to come to my house and hurt me. So the critical question, yes, is what happened at the house, but mr. Doyle can certainly ry on what happened before to justify his belief. One other thing that happened at the house that i think is just as unsettling is the fact that he held the wife and his family, gonzaless wife and family at gunpoint until police arrived. Whats the legal fallout from that . Kate, i dont see any defense to that whatsoever. Hes obviously not in fear from the wife or the daughter doing anything to him. Theyre apparently in the vehicle when he pulls out the firearm and gets them out of the vehicle to wait for police. That is aggravated assault under florida law. Thats what hes charged with right now for doing that to those folks. It can also be kidnapping if he required them to move from point a to point b. So while he may have a good selfdefense argument in relation to the shooting of mr. Gonzalez, i do not think he has a good defense to the aggravated assault charges. And thats a whole separate matter here, too, isnt it . Page, if this ever does get to a jury and a jury weighs the situation, will they be forced to decide who was doing worse things on the road in this case of dueling road rage . I think so, john. Thats not part of the legal definition, you know, who acted violently or aggressively first or what happened down the road before they got to the house, but thats the kind of things that either the prosecutor or the defense lawyer will try to get the jury to think about. Who is really at fault here . Who started this . Who could have backed off and kept this from happening . Those are the issues i think a jury will be asked to address. Real quick, page, the sheriff is saying that he is this is not going to be considered a stand your ground case. As you mentioned, were talking about florida law here and there is obviously a recent history when weve been talking about the stand your ground law. Why not stand your ground . I think thats to justify the fact theyve charged him with seconddegree degree murder in this case at this time. Im certain mr. Doyle will try to raise stand your ground as a defense because its not just a defense to a situation like mr. Zimmerman had with Trayvon Martin<\/a> where hes outside of the home. Stand your ground certainly applies, in fact it originally was meant to apply just to when youre at your house. So if someone is coming to your house and you have a reason to fear that that person is either going to harm you or commit some violent act to some other member of your household, you have never right to stand there and use deadly force to prevent an attack. Page pate, thanks so much. Thank you. Coming up for us, selling the Iran Nuclear Deal<\/a>. As the white house pushes the agreement in public, behind closed doors one senator is working to round up support, but hes already running into obstacles with some democrats, his own party. Hes joining us live. A mother throws her toddler to safety as an escalator collapses beneath them. We have the terrifying moments ahead. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. 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If 12 democrats break from the president , ultimately that will be enough to block the deal. Senator dick durbin joins us now from capitol hill. Senator, thanks so much for being with us. I want to get to the vote count and your expertise in a moment but first i want to ask you about former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee<\/a>, his comments about this agreement. He says the president is marching israel to the door of the oven. Your reaction . Obviously that was a hyperbolic overstatement and totally untrue. Those of us who are aware of the suffering of the jewish people, what happened in the holocaust have to take care not to use that analogy in such a casual way way. In this circumstance, this president , this administration have done everything in their power to reach an agreement. This president organized an International Coalition<\/a> to put sanctions on iran to force them to the negotiating table. A coalition which included our usual adversaries china and russia and they came to the table together. The goal is simple, stop iran from developing a nuclear weapon. The path to that goal is really two choices, diplomacy or military action and war. I believe we should exhaust the diplomatic side of it before we turn to that awful possibility of military action. Im sorry that former governor huckabee used those terms. Youre also working very hard behind the scenes now to try and urge to keep for lack of a better term to keep democrats in line if you will. If you lose more than 12 democrats, then they could easily block this deal from really moving forward. How confident are you, and youre very good at this, senator, how confident are you that you can guarantee you can keep those democrats from defecting . I can tell you that weve had a positive response from our caucus, and i have taken an approach that i want to describe to you. You know the other side, the republican side, so many of them came out and said they were against this agreement, 47 of them sent a letter to the ayatollah in iran during the negotiations and said stop negotiating with this president , congress will have the last word. But even when the agreement was reached, within minutes and hours many were announcing they were against it. What i found on the democratic side is my colleagues want to take the time to read it, which i did, and to sit down and think about it and to talk to the secretary of energy, the secretary of state about some of the details to go through the classified briefings. So were not pushing them to make an announcement of their position. We want them to take the time and take it seriously. You want them to take it seriously but at the end of the day senator you may be able to gather enough votes to block an override of a president ial veto but theres in way in this chamber of yours it will get a majority of support, is there . Well, of course, were in a situation with a republican majority, and i dont know, i havent counted on their side how many have taken a public position, but all that have taken a position are against it. So they have a starting position of a majority. However, the law requires 60 votes, 60 votes in order to stop it on the first round. And so were looking at this very carefully. We have 46 democrats, and we understand that there will have to be 60 voting with the republicans for them to prevail against the agreement. Senator, really quickly we want to get your take, its a very different topic but equally as important, to ask you about sandra bland. You attended her funeral. She died in texas but she is one of our constituents from illinois. You were there at that funeral. You have been calling for the Justice Department<\/a> to step in to investigate what happened to her, the circumstances surrounding her death. What are your outstanding questions right now, senator . Well, there are several, at least two aspects that are so serious and important. I attended that funeral, i met the family. You can understand heart broken to lose this 28yearold young woman under these circumstances. When you look at the video, what do you see . You see her being pulled over for what is a questionable traffic violation, changing lanes without a signal. As i drove out to the funeral, i saw plenty of people changing lanes without a signal. She was called over for that and then it escalated way beyond where it should have gone. To remove her from the car because she wouldnt put out her cigarette for goodness sakes and then to put cuffs behind her back, to restrain her, it really escalated way beyond where it should have with the traffic stop. The second question is the treatment of sandra when it came to the actual incarceration. She had warned those who incarcerated her that she had a history of some instability, and kr yet they didnt take the ordinary, normal precautions of watching her and caring for her as she should have. To think she was sitting in a jail cell for three days for being pulled over for changing lanes without a signal. It raises questions and a separate investigation i think is warranted. Senator dick durbin from illinois, thank you so much for being with us. We are waiting to hear if there will be a federal investigation. Thank you, sir. Thank you. New Surveillance Video<\/a> capturing the final hours before the gunman opened fire inside a crowded Movie Theater<\/a>. Investigators look through a secret journal from the shooter. What clues will that reveal . Bobbi kristina browns life comes to a tragic end months after she is found unresponsive in her bathtub. 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Ryan, first off, lets focus on the important part, what you can tell us about the funerals of these women today. Lets focus on them. Reporter yeah. Kate and john. The funerals will take place in a few minutes. The first one for mayci breaux will happen in nearby franklin and then later this afternoon Jillian Johnson<\/a> will be laid to rest. That will happen here in lafayette. A big crowd is expected for mayci breauxs funeral, that is open to the public, but the Johnson Family<\/a> has chose to make her funeral a little bit more private. Getting back to the investigation into john hauser. The evidence seems to make it clear this was a metally planned attack here on the Grand Theater<\/a> on thursday night and police have actually discovered a journal that houser used and wrote in at the motel that he was staying at not far from here. And cbs obtained Surveillance Video<\/a> of him leaving that hotel in the moments before he came here to the Grand Theater<\/a> and inside that journal he talks about coming here at 7 15 on thursday night. So they say its clear he was of sound mind when he was writing in the journal. Theyve been looking into his past. He obviously had a long Mental Health<\/a> history and run ins with his family. At one point his wife and daughter had filed a protective order against him. And his family now saying they were concerned about his potential for violence but they never thought he would attack a place like a Movie Theater<\/a>, instead maybe targeting a government building. There were nine other victims wounded in this tragedy. Six have been released from the hospital. Three are still recovering but, kate and john, they are all improving. Thats at least some good news in the face of the horrific tragedy in these funerals. Brian, thank you. Ahead for us, a dramatic new turn in the fight against isis. What the United States<\/a> is now doing that involves a safe zone. Plus, a stunning admission from Syrias Bashar Al Assad<\/a> saying that hes given up defending parts of his country. A mother throws her toddler to safety as an escalator collapses beneath them. This is just awful to see. We have the terrifying moments ahead. Creeping up on you. Fight back with relief so smooth. Its fast. Tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. And neutralizes stomach acid at the source. Tum, tum tum tum. Smoothies only from tums. Hows it progressing with the prisoner . Hell tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir. As you were. Where were we . 13 serving 14 service if your boss stops by, you act like youre working. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Nbut your stellar notebook full hangives youn ap calc. The gumption to reach for the sky. Thats that new gear feeling. All hp ink, buy one get one 50 off. Office depot officemax. Gear up for school. Gear up for great. Theres word this morning of a mothers heroism and a tragic death in china and its tough to watch. A 30yearold Mother Holding<\/a> her son riding a Department Store<\/a> escalator. At the top, the floor suddenly gives out. You can see it there, she instinctively pubes her son to safety but falls to her death. Workers forgot to secure the access cover in place. Unbelievable. Were watching a dramatic turn in the fight against isis, the u. S. And turkey have come toen a agreement to create a safe zone along the turkey syria border and nato will be holding a meeting tomorrow over the crisis in syria. I want to talk about this development. Joining us is military analyst and retired air force Lieutenant Colonel<\/a> rick francona. Theyre calling it a safe zone. Military officials want to make sure its not called a nofly zone. Im not sure the distinction is that important because a safe zone in and of itself with turkey helping to police this, this is a significant development. It is, john. If you look at the area theyre talking about, its the one area on the Turkish Border<\/a> thats still controlled by isis. So it will create the barrier for the turks that they want. It will allow them get Syrian Refugees<\/a> back in there. The problem is, this is an area thats being bombed almost daily by the syrian air force. So what happens when we set up a safe zone there and the syrians want to conduct operations against people that were support in supportin supporting . So this is setting up a real dangerous situation. And also youre getting it to right there, colonel. It seems to be laying to bare the complexities of the fight against isis in this region. The United States<\/a> here obviously wants to take on isis. But turkey, they want to take on isis and assad. Turkey wants to take on the kurds which the United States<\/a> has largely said has been some of the driving force in successfully taking on isis in iraq. That just shows how complex this really is. Weve had this conversation before. We talked about the situation in iraq compared to this is so crystal clear. You have the bad guys and good guys. In syria you have a complex mix of alliances that change almost daily on the situation on the ground is even more complicated because youve got despaired groups fighting each other one day, allied with tactical alliances the next day and now youll insert the turks into this. The turks have ulterior motives here. They want to overthrow the assad regime but they want to make sure they tamp down nationalism on the part of the kurds and the kurds as we see them are the only effective fighters on the ground. So very, very complex situation. And the safe zone sets up a state inside a state inside syria if it goes as planned. Its the orange area inside syria across the Turkish Border<\/a>. Who will police the borders there . The turks are talking about sending in millions of refugees, some of these Syrian Refugees<\/a> pleaing the war zones may move into that region but the turks wont patrol the borders with their own troops. The u. S. Wont put troops on the ground to keep them safe thats the question. Whos going to protect the safe zone . Is it going to be the rebels we have trained . That wont work because as far as i can tell theres only 60 that have been trained and were training more. That wont take that area and that area is in isis hands right now. Theyre not going to leave because weve declared a safe zone. Someone will have to push them out. And the only people capable of doing that are the kurds or the turkish army and they said they wont do it. So this remains to be seen. Real quick, colonel, you also now have syrian president Bashar Al Assad<\/a> over the weekend admitting in his views that his army is facing a manpower shortage to insurgent control, as he would say. What does that mean . It seems a significant admission coming from him. Its a significant admission but hes admitting reality. This has been going on for months now. Hes already creed eded a lot o territories to the rebels because hell defend the tearea that he thinks are important like damascus and the alawite homeland. So hell defend the major cities if he can but damascus, of course, is the key. Colonel rick francona, thank you for being with us. Thank you for joining us at this hour. Legal view starts right now. Bobbi kristina browns life comes to a heartbreaking end six months after she was found unconscious in her bathtub. What happens with the criminal investigation . Also ahead, did a West Virginia<\/a> womans act of selfdefense abruptly end a string of serial killings in ohio. 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