Now, despite much Better Weather conditions today, none cited plane debris. Meanwhile, there is a growing International Force of ships steaming toward the southern indian ocean to help aid in that search. Australias Prime Minister spoke today warning that the two objects may not be from the plane. It could just be a container thats fallen off a ship. We just dont know. We owe it to the families and the friends and the loved ones of the almost 240 people on flight mh 370 to do everything we can to try to resolve what is as yet an extraordinary riddle. Owe it to those families. Investigators are now looking into the activities of the pilot before the flight took off. Malaysia airlines said today it is aware of the media reports that the pilot made a cellphone call eight minutes before the flight took off. Malaysia Airlines Flight said flight 370 was carrying a small cargo of lithium eye ion batter. They are the type used in laptops and cell phones. They have been known to catch fire, although it is very, very rare. This is an exhaustive search with pilots going grid by grid through the area searching for the images. It is truly looking like a needle in a haystack. We are talking about a piece of debris, about 78feet across, in a search area of several hundred thousand miles. Even if that debris is, was something significant, it could have sunk by now, it could have floated away, i want to bring you two guests to talk about all this. Art write ght is an expert in d water investigation. Also, with us right here, our friend, richard quest, anchor of cnn internationals, quest means business. We want to alternate between two separate tracks. We want to talk about the search off the coast of australia and the investigation into what happened on that plane, two separate fields. Art, i want to start with you. You have searched the area in the southern indian ocean before. You headed a search for a lost Australian Navy vessel which you ended up finding. What are the challenges for looking at things in this place. What are these ships facing right now . These ships are facing weather problems in sea states. Looking for a small object or going up and down waves. With the sea state of 1530 foot waves. The lookouts on the ship have trouble seeing objects and the radars wont pick them up, because its so jumbled. For the searchers, they have to rule out the area grid by grid to insure that they havent missed anything. It is very painstaking process. I think thats the best word to use. Painstaking. We also know there are also limitations. These search planes may have, some of them may have a capacity of 10hour flying time. Four hours to get out there, only a couple of hours to search and they have to head back to land. We know for the first time now, Malaysian Airlines ceo has said on board, there was a small cargo of lithium ion batteries. How concerning is this about the possibility that they have could have exploded, caught fire, caused this plane to come down. The faa in the United States did a report into lithium batteries some years ago. He came up with more than 100 incidents where lithium batteries had either overheated, smoked, molten coming out of it and they looked at this in great detail. So it is a wellknown, and welldocumented issue with lithium ion batteries. The malaysia ceo in his News Conference specifically said that they knew about those batteries. Those batteries had been packed in accordance with ako, as the organization, the International Aviation organization, according with their regulations and it had been checked and rechecked. There is one small point conveniently overlooked by those that want to put the lithium ion battery argument forward. If they had been an incident, there would have been a warning. If there had been a warning, the pilots might have got a may day out. If there had been a fullscale fire, it would have been reported on the acars system and we might well have known about it. The lithium eye on battery theory is there, it will remain there. Does it hold a lot of water . It should frankly be somewhere on the back burner, because it doesnt hold a lot of water. Lets get back to the front burner. 15 miles off the coast of australia, one of the things officials are asking for, more my d hydrophones. How hard is it to search under water . What kind of equipment do you need to scan that ocean floor . The hydrophone is a passive device. It listens from the ping from the beacon on an aircraft. Once that ping is heard, they have an idea where the location is. If that beacon dies and the pings are no longer there, you have to search for deep ocean sonars. We use deep ocean sonars to find objects on the bottom. They have a rarnge. Our sonars have a range of 1250 meters. We do a swath of 2500 meters which resulted in 85 square nautical miles a day searching. It is a very slow, pains staking process. You want to establish on the seabed exactly where that plane is not. If you know where it is not, then you know where you have to search next. Good point. The process of elimination. Richard, lets ping back to you now and talk about the news that came out today. Again, Malaysia Airlines looking at these media reports that the pilot, eight minutes before the flight departed, made a cell phone call. On a regular day, this might not seem unusual. It still doesnt seem unusual to me. Absolutely not. When you say departed, i assume you mean before the doors were closed and the plane pushed back as opposed to at the end of the runway before it took off. Every Flight Attendant, every pilot ive ever known, is making phone calls veirtually to the time they clothes the doors. Almost like the passengers. You have one thing to remember. You and i you cant make a phone call, micayla and jon, for the next 53 minutes, because you are on air. Any Flight Attendant and pilot may not be able to make a phone call for the next 68 hours, because they are flying. There may be a turn around and they may not be able to call on the way back. There could be 1,001 reasons. For this particular profession, Flight Attendants and pilots, they do take the opportunity to make those calls, duties permitting, until the last possible moment. I am not, ill nail my colors on this one. I could be proved wrong by tea time, as ive said many times. I am not in the slightest concerned by this call at the moment. And throwing out tea time in one reference there. Richard quest, art wright, great to have you here with us. Lets take a look at some of the other stories that are making news. We are watching the situation, crimea. Crimea officially a part of russia. 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Where these oceans collide and you get all of this ability to produce storms. You get all the ability to produce storms. You have a great challenge in front of you. You could argue if this plane crashed and if there were debris on top of the water, 14 days ago, by now, it may have moved 1100 miles, because the currents can be so strong down there. So, truly, even if you know where something is, at this moment, it may not be there in an hour. Substantially not there. It could be three miles away. Go down below the water, it is even more complicated. You have all these cross currents and Different Things happening that are quite different than what you have on the surface. And, you have ravines and valleys and all these things. You can go down here with Something Like sidescan sonar, which goes below the water and essentially creates a 3d map of whats down there. It produces images like this that you can then look at and study for details what might be poking out from the bottom and say, is that part of an airplane. As great as this is, it is very focused. You dont just throw this down in a vast swath of ocean. You have to have a clue to lead you down there. The Malaysian Defense minister put out a call for hydrophones, an international, helpme, send hydrophones to the area. What are these devices and how can they help in the search . A hydrophone is what you would use to listen to the pinging of this flight data recorder. They are basically microphones under the water. Thats what they are for. The problem is, you have to know where you are putting it and why you are putting it there. The pinger on these flight data recorders goes about two miles in perfect condition. You have layers of warm water interlaced, it dramatically reduces the effectiveness of the pinger. I am not sure why he wants hydrophones. They are such a specific device. It is like you have lost your keys in your house and you are looking for the keys. The first thing you need is a big look and a big general idea of where they are. This is more like looking through a soda straw and saying im going to look at a little, tiny area. Thats a really hard way to search the house if you dont know where to start. When you look at the size of the area and the enormity of this task, i can understand they want to get all the tools in the tool kit but, like you said, you have to have the right tool at the right time for the right job. It doesnt seem like they are there yet for those hydrophones. Tom foreman, great to have you with us. Appreciate it. Ahead at this hour, the ocean is not the only place the searchers are looking right now. They are also digging deep inside the pilots flight sim mu lay tore and computer. Could deleted data be resurrected. Thats next. M to the next level. So we talked about her options. Her valuable assets were staying. 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Finding out whats on the duplicate hard drive from the flight sim mu lay tore. A top priority for a team of the fbis top forensics experts. They are working to retrieve those files from the simulator as well as the laptop that police took from their homes. They want too see if there are any clues at all as to what might have happened to flight 370. They are going to look to see data was deleted in a very simple, standard way or whether someone went to Great Lengths intentionally destroy those files to hide them permanently. It is important to note they might not find anything significant here but, of course, because it is the best evidence we have, this he have to check. So, mark, how hard is it to get this information they are looking for. Is it that sim and how long could this process take . It can be that simple. It depends, as pam just pointed out, how the files were deleted. 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