Situation in iraq. You know, for days now, weve been hearing one thing from this administration, that options are being discussed. We know last night the president met with top congressional leaders to discuss that. What they said came out of that meeting was basically an assessment, it wasnt as some speculated, an opportunity for the president to lay all of those options out on the table, to pick apart each one and then make a decision. It was merely an update and agreement to work with congress throughout the process. So now it seems like were about to get an announcement of something changing, something happening, possibly a decision made that would come quickly given some of the guidance we were hearing yesterday. But for some, of course, many critics out there, this is not coming quickly at all. In fact, some have been waiting for this for weeks. All right. Michele at the white house, thank you so much. As you say, perhaps a development here because from our pentagon correspondent barbara starr, we are now hearing the pentagon has made a proposal to send as many as 100 special forces to serve as advisors to the Iraqi Military inside iraq. Lets bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. So give us an idea, barbara, the president , has he signed off on this plan . We understand hes been made aware of. Good morning. What we are hearing from our sources is the pentagon is prepared now to very quickly send 100 or so military advisors to iraq to the ground in iraq, as soon and if the president signs off on this option. We have every reason to believe that is what is being discussed this afternoon and that is what the pentagon at least believes is in front of him and they are prepared to execute that option very quickly. So what are we talking about . Were talking about 100 special forces, green berets, army rangers, navy s. E. A. L. S, going to iraq and basically going to locations around the country. Iraqi brigade headquarters. And advising the iraqi troops, but also very much collecting intelligence, we are told, about isis, about the sun sun my militant fighters where their weapons are, how theyre moving around. One of the reasons were not seeing air strikes is because the u. S. Still lacks real clarity on the intelligence picture for the isis fighters. Its been very difficult to track them. They move around a lot. You know, the videos show its guys on the ground with, you know, pickup trucks and ak47s and machine guns. This is a very difficult thing to target. So the u. S. Wants to get more intelligence. These military advisors will do some of that we are told. Already, u. S. Military aircraft are flying over iraq, manned aircraft, off the deck of the carrier george h. W. Bush. They are collecting intelligence, purely a reconnaissance mission. I think the big question is going to be, if this is what the president is about to announce, it puts troops back on the ground in iraq, perhaps not in combat directly but as one Army Official said to me a short time ago, if somebody is shooting at you, its combat. Very good point, barbara. We appreciate that. We want to turn to our military analyst, retired colonel rick, military officer to the u. S. Embassy in baghdad. We heard you actually mouth and say the words out loud, if they shoot at you youre in combat. Sounds like boots on the ground to many people. Do you agree . I think theyre parsing the words not combat forces, theyre advisors. Its a combat mission. Meaningless decision nags. These are going to be Army Special Forces that trained for this mission, going to advise iraqi units. Unfortunately this is the first step and this is how you get drawn into these situations. So they have to make it clear what the mission actually is. Theyll also be in a great position if theyre going to be out with the iraqi units to call in any air strikes that are there. As we talked the other day, its always best to have a u. S. Person with american eyeballs on the ground to see what were trying to shoot at. Wont that sort of become apparent to you once youre there and do have eyes on the ground . What we have to guard against is mission creep. Were going to start advising and then calling in air strikes and while the air strikes arent enough, are we going to bring in additional u. S. Support. So this is a very tricky situation that were getting into right now. Look, theres a military issue as you say, what will they be doing and where will they be doing it and a political issue as well. The president has said, all options are on the table, except boots on the ground. And in 90 minutes at the white house he could be announcing there will be boots on the ground. Right. And once the air strikes start, then we get into what is the unintended consequences of that. Because now were going to start bombing the isis people, but no doubt, well be taking on some of the sunni tribes that have allied with isis, now going to be killing iraqi sunnis. To be clear from a military tactical standpoint why would you do this before any air strikes. There is some use to this. Oh, if they can get out there and get the iraqi forces to stand up and fight we may not need the air strikes. I suspect we will. But the iraqis need to stand up and fight and right now they are just having an abysmal time out there in the field. Another portion of this is, is the leadership in iraq. Weve talked about this. We know that many voices in washington are saying, maliki has to go. In fact, we just heard from secretary of state john kerry, address the question, listen to the sound an give us your reaction. Nothing that the president decides to do is going to be focused specifically on Prime Minister maliki. It is focused on the people of iraq. But it may benefit maliki. Sunni, kurd, well thats up to the people of iraq to decide, but the United States is deeply concerned about the Islamic State of iraq and the lavant, as we know it, that has moved in. They represent a threat to every country in the region. Theyre more extreme even than al qaeda and they are threatening the United States and western interests. So secretary kerry correct there in saying that the u. S. Cant force a regime change, it those come from within. Of course it those come from within and other people have called for maliki to step aside in the best interest of iraq. This is a twolayered problem. First we have to stop isis, we have to fix the tactical situation on the ground. This is the imminent problem. Removing maliki is not going to fix that. Thats something we need to look at to get iraq back and iraqs house back in order. Right now we have to address the initial threat to baghdad, the initial threat to that regime and weve got to contain isis. And if thats what the president is going to announce that the u. S. Is sending hundred odd special forces to iraq, it does seem like he will not wait for regime change or maliki to step aside before the u. S. Does take action. Let me ask you, have you ever served as a military adviser to troops overseas, other troops in other countries. I have in jordan. How close are you to potential danger then some. Well, it depends on what youre doing, but these guys are going to be in danger. Theyre going to be out in the field advising these guys. Thats what you want, because theres Nothing Better than a u. S. Army officer telling these guys what to do. Stick around because we have more questions on different issues. Reminder again, the president will be making a statement at 12 30 p. M. We will cover that for you live. Its very important. Obviously going to be some kind of policy announcement on what the u. S. Intends to do about iraq. Take a short break here. Ahead, terrorists among us. Two alleged wouldbe jihadists arrested in texas in two separate cases. Crisis at the border. Texas saying it cannot afford to wait for washington. Taking its Border Security into its own hands. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Geicmoney for over 75 years. Save theyve really stood the test of time. 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Our ed lavandera joins us with details about the suspects, the evidence, the cases and Authorities Say these are two separate cases. That seems hard to believe. What do we know. Kind of fascinating when you think about that. These are both men similar in age. Theres two Different Cases here. Well break them down individually. First you have Michael Todd Wolfe, this is interesting, he was arrested as he and his family were about to board a flight to europe and according to the criminal complaint filed against him, he was trying to travel through europe and turkey, to get into syria. And then you also have the case of rahatul khan who according to the criminal complaint filed against him, he was in chat rooms trying to recruit likeminded individuals and in the process of perhaps trying to support or get himself to somalia as well. So two Different Cases, two different destinations but highlights a common concern now which is u. S. Citizens being recruited and doing recruiting to get involved in jihadist movements with radical islamists overseas. We have to wonder, how does this happen that these young men get radicalized. A couple guys in austin, texas, what happened . Do we have any inkling . You know it doesnt come out and say exactly how this happened, but its interesting, in reading through these criminal complaints that are several dozen pages long, one of the things that ive noticed that kind of stands out between both of these cases is the use of the internet. For example, rahatul khan spent according to the criminal complaints a great deal of time in chat rooms speaking in coded language and thats how the government informants were able to communicate with him and build his trust. On the other case, Michael Todd Wolfe who apparently in the criminal complaint watched a lot of propaganda videos about fighters in syria and that sort of thing. This online world where a lot of this communication takes place, seems to be a common link and a common theme between both of these cases. Worrisome to say the least. Glad to know these two men are going to be questioned. Figure out what happened here and well get more information and pass it along to those at home. Ed lavandera, always a pleasure to have you with us. Curious when they pull on those, how far they go. Ahead at this hour, texas going alone, what it calls against a surge against people crossing the border illegally. Why now, will it work and is this a wakeup call for washington . A Gold Medalist swimmer, you may recall the story of her being paralyzed in an atv accident. She is talking about how she feels and i have to tell you this attitude she has, it is positive and it is absolutely inspiring. Means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing. G, and when weather hits, its data mayhem. But airlines running hp endtoend solutions are always calm during a storm. 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At this hour texas beefing up security at the Mexican Border to deal with the flood of undocumented immigrants coming into the United States. State officials plan to invest more than a Million Dollars per week in an operation they are calling a surge. Governor rick perry says the people coming into the u. S. Illegally are a threat to his state and he cannot wait on washington to do something about it. So texas will apparently handle the crisis itself. We want to speak with former new mexico governor and u. N. Ambassador Bill Richardson about this. He joins us on the phone. Thanks so much for joining us at this hour. Thank you. Nice to be with you. Well, look, we want to talk about this situation that we see going on in texas. Essentially governor rick perry taking things into his own hands saying the feds arent moving fast enough for him. Hes got to stem the flow of immigrants coming across the boarder. Is this a good solution . Well, its a temporary solution because the federal government, the congress, has not passed an immigration bill that brings more funds for Border Security, some kind of a legalization plan, and i have to admit, while i was governor of new mexico in 2005, i had a similar situation with a lot of violent cartels on my border and i declared a state emergency so i could get some funds to hire more Law Enforcement personnel. So i cant criticize governor perry. I do think its a wakeup call to the congress, to the administration, to try to get an immigration bill passed. Otherwise, were going to have these immense problems at the border, Central Americans coming in, because of loopholes and lack of any kind of technology and more security at the border. Were not going to have these problems, governor. In fact, we already do. And as a governor, a former governor of a border state, youve had to deal with this firsthand. How do you separate the plight of these children, these thousands of children now, being kept in these warehouses in some cases, detention center, how do you keep their plight separate from the issue of Border Security and can it be kept separate . Well, you cant separate it because states have limited funds. Theyre already strained at the border with taking care of a lot of undocumented workers, especially children, that are already coming through. And when you get this huge surge, you have conditions, as i saw a picture in arizona, where these kids are sleeping in a gym without any shelter, in very, very poor conditions. So this is when the state has to take a role, a humanitarian role, but also in the case of texas and in my case, a Law Enforcement role. You cant separate. We are a humane country. We care about human rights. But its important that it be a message to washington that we need more Border Security, we need rules of the road for a path to citizenship for the 12 million that are here illegally, but most importantly, with the human rights conditions of these young women and these men that are victimized by cartels, by shady operators, taking advantage of the situation. Well, and thats the thing. Weve had several people come on and talk about how the situation for these children specifically is certainly their treatment is unamerican and we certainly know that a lot more needs to be done in terms of policy with those countries that are essentially sending the children here. We want to say a big thank you to governor Bill Richardson. Really appreciate you joining us on the phone today making time for us. Its a conversation were going to continue on cnn. He lived it when he was governor of new mexico. And realizes what a delicate situation it is. Not an easy fix as we said before. 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