Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20170405

CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan April 5, 2017

An important moment there. Lets get over the important place right now. Jeff zell anneny has more on th. The white house put out a statement on the chemical attack yesterday, but this could be the first time we hear from the president since putting out that statement. What are you hearing from the white house . The white house is drafting comments right now that the president will be delivering later today early this afternoon in the rose garden, and it will be about syria. It will be about the chemical attack and this will be fascinating to watch what the president says specifically about this. Yes. Because he said in a statement yesterday he called it reprehensible, but of course, the question is what does this administration intend to do with the assad regime . He had some criticism of president obama, of course, that syria red line and we have not yet got a full sense of what this president believes and in fact what his policy toward a syria. So we will get a much more, you know, direct picture from him in a couple of hours when he has an outdoor News Conference in the rose garden, kate. And that, of course, jeff is one crisis and just today. Tomorrow the president is going to be welcoming the chinese president , and theyll be meeting and you know, they have said northia korea is going to come up and they have the new provocative action. What is the white houses reaction to that . Reporter that is a centerpiece of the discussions. The president has when he invites the president of china to maralago, and i talked to a senior official saying that time is running out here. This is a very urgent threat. So were getting a sense of what, you know, the administrations posture toward this. We also had a very brief and terse statement from the secretary of state Rex Tillerson and he said this. North korea launched yet another intermediate change ballistic missile. The United States has spoken enough about north korea. We have no further comment. That is fine to have no further comment, but that does not mean the problem has gone away, and kate, i am told that will be the centerpiece of the discussions tomorrow. The u. S. Would like chinas help on this emerging and very serious threat of north korea. How long can the silent treatment work and what actual impact does it have is a key question. Jeff, a lot going on over there today. Thank you. Phil, great to see you. A lot to get to. When it comes to syria, there is this element that i think is really important to get to. All of the chemical weapons from the country were supposedly moved out of the country and destroyed in 2014. That was a big deal back then. If you were back in your former post, what questions are you asking among the Intel Community . Should the Intel Community have known about this . Look, the questions youre asking and its not clear to me they didnt know, by the way, kate. How can we be going to the white house that we know what happened here . The russians have an alternate view. I doubt theyre telling the truth, but before the president takes action. He darn well better haver is the tud about what assad was doing here. I think hes 98 certain that this was the Syrian Regime, but thats the first question you have for the white house if youre at the cia. The second is a question that the cia and the Defense Department share. If the president wants to take military action, what are the kinds of targets that might show up on the table . What targets are militarily significant . What targets might be producing these kinds of munitions and the most interesting question, what targets will bring the most pain to Bashar Al Assad. Thats whats on the table. Thats a lot of conversations and what lawmakers think and would like to see the president move to do. Again, we havent heard any plan on why today is so key, but if we want to talk about another country where we have little to no intelligence on is north korea. Making another provocative move overnight. The response from the secretary of state, 23 words. Jeff zeleny read it for you, and it basically says weve said enough. Were not going to say anymore. Is the silent treatment the right response right now . Everybody else is looking at the americans and saying what are you going to do . So eventually whether its nikki haley at the u. N. Or the white house in conversations with the chinese and a press conference after or whether Rex Tillerson who has been the most silent secretary of state in history says something, youve got to say something. Theres one point that were learning from secretary tillersons statement. When you get in the oval office the American People think that the president can do anything and when you look at the history of north korea like the history we had with trying to contain the pakistanis. They had a Nuclear Weapon for 20plus years. Theres not much you can do if the other party, the north koreans, do not want to play. Jim acosta speaking to a senior administration, official who said the launch was a spectacular failure. The missile exploded approximately 55 seconds after launch. I guess thats not the silent treatment anymore. Maybe it still is. Thats not the answer. Weve had an acceleration in the north Korean Missile Program Going back months and years. Theres talk of miniaturization of Nuclear Weapons, so to say that this one was a failure kicks the can down the road. Eventually the white house will have to say are we going to do something or not in the wake of failures for years about trying to contain the north koreans. When time is running out, time is running out to what . Whats next when that clock ticks down . Great to see you, phil. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Lets talk more about this and a very important day. Republican congressman from kentucky, congressman thomas massey. Thank you very much for the time. Thank you, kate. Thanks for having me on. Of course. Youve seen these horrific images. Lets talk about syria first. Youve seen the horrific images of people, children coming out of syria right now. No Public Statements from no Public Comments from the president yesterday, but then a statement. He calls it reprehensible and then the president blames it on obama saying this in part. He said these heinous actions by the Bashar Al Assad regimes are the consequence of past weakness and irresolution. It breaks my heart to see the images of the victims, i have to say that. Let me tell you, kate, the only issue ive received more phone calls on other than the Affordable Care act, if you will, was going to war in syria in 2013. President obama said assad crossed a line in 2013 and he said we should go to war with assad, that assad must go, and he came to congress for authorization. We never gave it to him because constituents melted our phone lines. Frankly, people want us to take out isis, i believe, but its dubious as to whether it serves the american interests to take out assad. Right, but that goes directly to my question. The president s only Public Statement so far has been to blame president obama for inaction. Is blaming president obama the answer here . Um, i dont believe so. Im not going to blame obama. Hes gone. Its ours to deal with now and you know, i appreciate that President Trump campaigned on a more restrained foreign policy, and i hope thats what we see in syria and north korea. We have fellow republican john mccain and he has a very different position than you on syria, and i want to play for you what he said this morning and what he would like to hear from President Trump following this. Listen. I want to say i want to hear him say we will arm the Free Syrian Army and dedicate ourselves to the removal of Bashar Al Assad and the russians have to pay a price for their engagements and hezbollah are also heavily involved and all players here will have to pay a penalty and the United States of america is going to be on the side of people who fight for freedom and we will not sit by and watch chemical weapons being used to slaughter innocent women and children. Thats john mccain speaking out yesterday. Congressman, you are against intervention. You say this is what you hear from constituents and you say thats what you heard from constituents previously, but as you sit here today and see the slaughter of innocent children, does that change your view . Well, with all due respect to the senator of arizona, hes wrong, and hes not expressing the will of the American People, but i hope that the senator, and i can agree that President Trump cannot unilaterally attack a country. He cannot commit an act of war against a sovereign nation without a vote in congress. So this really isnt up to Rex Tillerson or the president at this point. If the president of syria is committing crimes against humanity and slaughtering his own people. Do you think there is something short of going to war with syria that you can support your fellow republican Adam Kissinger says, yes, there is something short of that. You can ground Assads Air Force. You can crater the airstrips that the air force is taking off from to commit these atrocities. Can you not do that . I cant comment on classified information on tv, but according to the washington post, weve been spending 1 billion a year in funding the rebels in syria to no good effect. Thats not grounding the rebels. What do you think about grounding Assads Air Force . Well, you know, we had testimony from a military expert in front of congress that said thats a virtual act of war in syria, and that we would be at war with the russians at that point. I think its a bad idea. Earlier today, congressman, vana, a little girl who has become the voice of syrian children in the civil war. She spoke to cnn and here is what she said her wish is. Listen. I want to stop the war, and i want the children of syria play and go to school, live in peace. We can we can help them. Together, we can save them. To be clear, what she said right there is thats all she wants. She wants for the children of syria to play and go to school. Shes pleading for help. What do you say to her, congressman . I think what shes asking for is something that all children should enjoy, and i think that our intervention in syria has prolonged the civil war, and it is not helping there. President trump campaigned on a more restrained fiscal or im sorry, a more restrained foreign policy, and i hope thats what we see, and you know, we havent created a Better School environment for the children in iraq, frankly, by destabilizing that country, and i dont think it serves the children of syria or anybody in the United States to further destabilize syria. So you say you hear that plea from her, you see the images coming out of syria and you think the best policy for the United States right now is to do nothing . What im saying is we might end up making the situation worse if we launch air strikes, if we against their airplanes and against hard targets on the ground. So we really need to step back and take a good look at this. The first casual tty of war is e truth and its hard to know whats happening in syria right now. I would like to know how the release of gas, if it did occur, and frankly i dont know if assad had done that. It would tend to draw us into that civil war even further. Who do you think who do you think is behind it . You think who do you think is behind it . You know, youve got a war going on over there. Supposedly the air strike was on an ammo dump, and so i dont know if it was released because there was gas stored in the ammo dump or not. Thats plausible. Im not saying thats what i think happened, but youre more inclined the position of what Bashar Al Assad is saying and what the russians are saying than more inclined to believe what even your colleagues here in the United States believe is true, that this is assad and what human rights observers say is assad . I dont think it would have served assads purposes to do a chemical attack on his people. So i, you know, its hard for me to understand why he would do that if he did. Congressman tom massie, thanks for your time. Thank you, kate. Coming up for us, i would be surprised if people dont end up going to jail and thats a pretty startling prediction from some democrats on the outcome of the russia investigations just as theyre getting under way. Do democrats have proof of this . Also, ivanka trump speaking out for the First Time Since taking an official post at the white house. Who she says about disagreeing with her father on some very thorny, big issues and we will take you live to the Syrian Border and we will also take you live right there. That is the u. N. Security council. We are waiting to hear from u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations nikki haley. She will be speaking publicly for the First Time Since the suspected chemical attack that killed dozens of people including children. We will bring it to you live. Weeds. Natures boomerang. At roundupĀ®, we know they keep coming back. You never invited this stubborn little rascal to your patio. So, draw the line. 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Joining me now to discuss this the state of play and whats going on on capitol hill right now, quite honestly is congressman james clyburn. Thanks for coming in. Thank you very much for having me. Do you think susan rice should testify before the committees . I dont see anything thats untoward about that . Susan rice has been before committees often. I think that she expects to give testimony when asked. I have observed her over the years, and i dont think she has anything to hide or to be ashamed of. She carried out her duties and responsibilities in a normal way. Her job entailed requesting that things or people be unmasked and the job of the Intelligence Committee or group is to approve or disapprove. If they approve, fine. If they dont approve you should go on to the next request. So thats all that took place here. So all of this is to camouflage, is to deflect, is to keep the attention off of where the problems really are, and it all cries out for why the independent commission doing this because their you say this is to deflect and Many Democrats are, but at the end of the day you are talking about someone with susan rice that comes with political baggage. She was a political appointee asking for information involving an opponent, of sorts, if you will. If the shoe was on the other foot, if this was former National Security advisor condoleezza rice, wouldnt you think there were questions you want answered and not a distraction. I was an independent commission and i dont care whose feet are being placed in the shoes. The fact of the matter is we ought to have an independent commission looking at this. This is not anything that ought to be mired in any kind of political controversy and you cannot get politics out of the congress and out of political appointments and lets just forget all of this. Bring on an independent commission that will do this the way 9 11 did or go all of the way back to watergate because ill tell you something, i was around when i wasnt here in the congress, but i remember what they did very well, and i can tell you that these issues surrounding russia, surrounding this campaign, last years campaign, surrounding President Trump or just as critical if not more so than watergate was. The fact of the matter is, congressman, democrats dont have the power to make an in

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