Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20171212

CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan December 12, 2017

Hes feeling after this long race that has had such difficult moments, oftentimes been ugly and bitter and i asked him if he was relieved and this is what he had to say. Im certainly relieved, but, you know, look, we expected a tough campaign. Quite frankly, i think with all that could have been said and done, i dont think it has been as bad as it could have been. When this general election first started this was roy moores race to lose. It was always going to be competitive, but once the allegations of Sexual Misconduct and child molestation came to light it became much tighter. Moore has a base of support and this was always on jones to really put in the effort to get the votes out. We know democrats will vote for him, but the challenge that hes had is to siphon off moderate republicans, particularly women, who would have been turned off by the allegations against roy moore. He also needed needs, jones needs a large number of africanamericans to come out and vote today. The big question, the big thing were focusing on is turnout. That is the name of the game today. Kate . It is the name of the game, youre ting up the game im going to play next perfectly. Alex, for us there. Reminder roy moore will be heading to his polling station to vote shortly. We will bring that to you when it comes and he, again, will be keeping with the kind of the old adage if it isnt broke dont fix it, and hes going to be arriving on horseback. His horse and his wife. We will bring you the pictures when they come in. Joining me alex burns, political analyst and National Political reporter for the noshlgs times, david maury political analyst consultant in alabama who worked on campaigns if the state and political reporter rebecca berg. All right. You know i love on game day to play games. You have to play along with me. That means it is game time. A little game i like to call it all comes down to but, you cant, as alex did, you cannot use the word turnout. Alex, well begin with you. What does it come down to tonight . Since youve taken away turnout im going to say look at particularly three mid sized cities in alabama, very well in birmingham, montgomery and run up the scoreboard in those cities and expect roy moore to do very well in rural, alabama. So lets look at three other cities, huntsville in the north, tus tuscaloosa and mobile on the gulf coast. These are areas where roy moore has prevailed in the past by losing slightly and won statewide races losing those cities by a little bit. If doug jones can run up a bigger margin in those places, they if he can run up a big margin it may be tough for moore to overcome that. Thats not an easy task. Because i am the ref i can use the word turnout. The secretary of state expects modest turnout, 20, 25 . With that in mind, a do you think it all what do you think it comes down to . The name of the candidate or letter after the name . I think its always going to be the letter after the name, but i would like to add to what was said earlier, i think you have to look at shelby and baldwin county, which are republican bastions and figure what the overall africanamerican turnout is versus the women turnout and theres your dynamic. Jones has to get about 150,000 crossover votes or whatever that percentage is, you know, that youre talking about thats the difference. And i mean thats just hard math. Im not in the prediction game, but i will say that it a lot of times maybe it comes down to 20 million spent for jones and 4 million for whatever on the aggregate spent for moore. Does money overcome crazy . Does money overcome no matter how you describe it, soon we will find out, i guess. Rebecca, give me your take . Weve been talking about what jones needs to see with his turnout, africanamerican voters, women voters, younger voters, but its interesting also to take a look at who might not turn out for roy moore this evening. You think back to Donald Trumps election, we were all talking about what is going to happen with these College Educated white voters, suburban, you might consider them chamber of Commerce Business oriented republicans, what happens with those voters . Do they take the route senator shelby took and write in another candidate or not show up to the polls at all. Its worth noting doug jones and his campaign have been making a direct appeal to these chamber of commerce republicans talking about how roy moore would be bad for business in alabama. It will be interesting to see if those appeals actually resonate here. So alex wins, hes the only one who didnt use the word turnout. Guys, you to follow the rules. Alex, how alabama got here, follows a series of wild choices from trump to the exgovernor to the Current Governor to Mitch Mcconnell. Who is going to be redeemed and who is going to be regretting their decision most . Well, look, i think on the republican side, the conversation tomorrow either way frankly is going to be overwhelmingly about roy moore and about the scandal that has surrounded him for a little over a month now, but as you said, you know, its important to take a step back and look at the long view of this race, that republicans never needed to find themselves in the position of having roy moore as their nominee, of having this special election in december, of having a vacancy in the senate at all. Those are all discreet and really, really unsuccessful choices made by the president , made by two different governors of alabama, that even put this race in a position where it could be competitive to begin with. So, you know, kate, i would say its sort of a murder on the Orient Express level of collective act of political harm inflicted on the party itself. David, Charles Barkley last night was stumping for doug jones and it dawned on me when he took the stage that after the primary, you threw out his name as a possible writein on the show for the seat. Yep. What do you make, though, of his pitch last night . Essentially saying, this is alabamas chance to, in his words, quote unquote, show the country that were not a bunch of dam idiots . You know, a lot of times when you give people that choice, and you say it that starkly, they kind of go the other way and say if you think im an idiot watch me. I dont know that i would have made that exact pitch but charles has his own way with words and, you know he does. Whether alabama or auburn you dont fault him. Having him there helps either way. But i want to go back to one thing that alex said, thats that i think a month ago, if you would have asked us the craziest story, it would be bennett resigned because of a sex scandal and were all waiting on what happens in this race and no matter what happens thats the craziest story of the year in politics in alabama. It has. When you were laying it out, i was reading on twitter truly an amazing series of events on how things have gotten to today. Rebecca, steve bannon, back in the state last night, true to form last night, hitting the media, Mitch Mcconnell, hitting bob corker, hitting basically every other republican other than roy moore at this point. And then he said this. Theres a special place in hell [ applause ] for republicans who should know better. That is the same wording ivanka trump used when she spoke out against roy moore in the interview in ap. Do you think its a coincidence . Maybe, maybe not. I havent heard direct confirmation from bannon or his circle but i do know that they have had a great deal of heartburn about what ivanka said, particularly given the president s ultimate decision to endorse roy moore in this race. Right. Record robo calls for him. They feel that her comment sent them back, roy moore back, and worth noting her comment was used on antiroy moore advertising sent out by democrats, the jones campaign. Its something that could hurt moore in this race and they recognize that. Definitely seemed to have left a mark. Can i say, can i add that that ad that rebecca referred to, the jones ad featuring ivanka trump, democrats believe that was one of the most effective ads that jones ran in the entire race. Fascinating. Lets see, though, what happens. Great to see you guys. Well be watching it together. Polls are open. They close at 8 00 p. M. Eastern this evening. 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Senate democrats are going even a step further calling on the president to resign. President trump should resign. These allegations are credible, they are numerous, ive heard these womens testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking and President Trump should resign his position. Cnns senior washington correspondent joe johns here with much more. Joe, the president is not holding back this morning against senator gillibrand who you just heard right there. Whats going on here . Well, its a lot of back and forth, quite frankly. Of course against the backdrop of people in the Democratic Party on capitol hill call for the president to resign, including gillibrand, cory booker, jeff merkley, ron wyden, other democrats, saying there ought to be an investigation of some sort and the president really went after gillibrand today. Lets just read that tweet. Lightweight senator Kirsten Gillibrand total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office begging for campaign contributions, not so long ago, and would do anything for them, is now in the ring fighting against trump very disloyal to bill and crock keds whatever that means. Gillibrand responded you cannot silence me or the millions of women who have gotten off the sidelines to speak out about the unfitness and shame youve brought to the oval office. And just a little while ago on capitol hill, gillibrand was also asked a question about this, the question was, do you see this as Sexual Harassment by a tweet and she responded, quote, i see it as a sexism smear, part of the president s efforts to silence me, its not going to silence me, the women that have been speaking out. She goes on, these allegations should be investigated and they should be investigated thoroughly. That is the right thing to do and i am urging them to do that and so should their constituents. So a little bit more now from Kirsten Gillibrand about this back and forth between hernd and the president of the United States. Still waiting to hear from the white house itself in an attempt to clarify what exactly it was the president meant when he said, she would do anything for campaign contributions. We know sometimes people here at the white house dont like to get too far out ahead of the skiing and interpreting the president s tweets without vetting on the response. Waiting to hear on that. Also there is an opportunity for the president to speak to it himself when he signs the National Defense authorization act just a little while here at the white house and we expect to hear from Sarah Sanders too. Back to you. This would not be be surprising if today fits into the category as theyve used many times before, tweet speaks for itself when asked about it. Well see. Joe, thank you very much joining me is a woman who has taken up this cause, personal story ignited this new era of accountability in the work place, former anchor Gretchen Carlson and the author of be fierce, stop harassment and take your power back. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having me. You were just standing on capitol hill last week with senator gillibrand, she is champenning cosponsoring the bill you were championing to eliminate forced arbitration in the workplace. You saw the tweet from the president this morning and thought what . I thought it was totally sexist. I thought that it was a deliberate takedown of her because shes a female senator in an effort to try to silence her. Sexual harassment is apolitical, it doesnt matter what Political Party it sure as heck should be. Sure as heck should be and many accusers of President Trump and they deserve a voice just as roy moores do, just as al frankens do. So this is on both sides of the fence. Weve seen titans from both sides fall. I think that was despicable tweet he put out this morning. Do you think and this is a hypothetical, of course, do you think his statement would have been different had senator gillibrand been senator ken gillibrand . Possibly. But to say that she would do anything to get campaign contributions, somebody in the white house needs to explain what that means. Because a lot of people believe that that means she would have done sexual favors and that is absolutely disgusting. Its a different time. People need to answer. People need to the innuendo and the i dont know, subliminal, doesnt work anymore. Well, i think hes brought a lot of attention back to himself. The more he supports a candidate like roy moore and tweets out about this, the accusers against don juni donald trump will have more of a voice. 17 months after my story broke when it was a lonely experience, i mean look at where we are. Yeah. Im so proud of the bravery and courage of all these other women who have come forward and men, and feel like they have a voice. I mean it is truly a cultural shift. I want to ask you about that, because the women who have come forward to tell their stories they did it during the campaign, coming forward again to talk about this against President Trump, calling for congress to investigate. He calls it he called them liars in the campaign, calls it fake news now. Do you think the sea change, the shift that youre talking about, do you think that it do you think its possible if the president is addressing the issue in the way that he is . I dont know how you can pick and choose which women to believe and which ones are liars. I dont know if an entire cat gor of women can all be liars. For the American People its time we all have the courage to stop the divisive nature we find ourselves in and say look, no matter if im a republican or a democrat or an independent like i am, its wrong. And we have to call it out when we see it if we have any chance of coming together. You cant just pick and choose because you dont like the fact that there are a lot of accusers against a republican or against a democrat. When it comes to the president , republicans seem to say, you know, it seems to be honest, fat chance theres going to be an investigation in congress with a Republican House and senate. Kirsten gillibrand has also one of those that has come forward to take it a step forward and says in face of these incredible accusers against donald trump he should resign. Have you do you have a thought on that . I dont have a thought on that. I get asked every day about President Trump. But heres the big difference between the titans weve seen fall and the private sector versus in politics. The people elect the politicians. Thats the only way they can be rehired or fired, right. It really is up to the people. Now whether or not Congress Wants to start an investigation into other senators and members of the house who have been accuse of similar things or even President Trump that remains to be seen but it really in the end is up to the people. T

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