Bipartisan group tasked with coming up with a long term deal. If not trump says another shutdown is quote certainly an option. That is comforting not in the least. The president also not closing the door on declaring a National Emergency on taking an action to get the border wall that he wants. Is there support for that . A new cnn poll shows the president s Approval Rating took a real hit during the shutdown standing at 38 . Abby phillips is at the white house for us. What are you hearing from the white house today about all of this . Good morning. The white house seems to be leaning into the idea that President Trump is very much still thinking about using his executive authority to build the wall. In fact, just days after deciding to reopen the government with no wall funding as part of that deal, President Trump seems to be talking a lot about his powers to do this without Congress Even yesterday his acting chief of staff spoke on the sunday shows and insisted that President Trump would do what it takes to build the wall and address the crisis at the border. Is the president really prepared to shutdown the government again in three weeks . Yeah. I think he actually is. Keep in mind, he is willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border. He does take this very seriously. This is a serious humanitarian and security crisis and as president of the United States he takes the security of the nation as his highest priority. He doesnt want to shut the government down. He doesnt want to declare a National Emergency. Reporter both the president and white house aides this morning are express aing a lot of pessimism on capitol hill that this will end with the money for the border wall. They are saying they are waiting for the process to play out. I think the president recognizes that his leverage is almost nonexistent. Democrats have control over the house. Nancy pelosi has now won major victory over President Trump very early in her tenure as speaker. I think the president is expressing some frustration that he is being criticized on the right in particular for his willingness to cave on friday to reopen the government without the border wall funding and with no prospects that he will get the funding from congress. And one wonders what the criticism on the right means now for the president because it had a big effect the first time around. Thank you so much. We will talk more about this. John kasich is joining us now, former republican governor of ohio. Its great to see you. Thank you for being here. Youre welcome. So the president , he is now putting it at less than 50 50 that a deal can be reached to prevent another shutdown. What do you put the chances at . I think it is a lot of posturing right now. You have members of congress who will try to work something out. I think they will try. The question is, are there people in that room who are willing to make compromises . We are not going to shut the government down again. That is not going to happen. The president cant take that. If he doesnt get an agreement he will probably declare some type of National Emergency and go to the courts and be fought there. The other likely scenario is that he wants this wall, wall, wall. You will end up with something along the lines of a smart wall. Everybody believes the border needs to be protected. I think they will figure out something here. If they dont, he will make some limited executive order and life will go on if i were a federal employee and watching this i wouldnt be laying awake at night. I think there will be a way to keep the government open and move forward. I find that really interesting. Do you think it is because there was a Lesson Learned or do you think because the president suffered a bruising loss . When people cant fly into new york, people are backed up, its a really crazy situation. Then it begins to affect lots of people. I think that was the problem. So you talk about the 17member group. It sounds a lot like governor, can you hear me . Governor . Governor, can you hear me . I think we lost the governor for a second. We will try to reconnect and get back with him. Coming up for us also ahead is after a big national run, one is taking her pitch straight to iowa voters. Details ahead. 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So lets answer that question to the world and each other right here and right now. America, we are better than this. [ cheers and applause ] the gloves are off. The hats been thrown in the ring and the long journey to november 3, 2020 begins. Senator Kamala Harris launched her campaign over the weekend officially from her hometown of oakland, california before a very big crowd of supporters in front of oakland city hall. As more democracies jump into the race, one more question for you. What about an independent run . The former ceo of starbucks Howard Schultz is openly considering one. What does that do to the race . Jeff zeleny is in des moines, iowa. You spent so much time in iowa i convinced myself thereat you were from there. But you are a corn husker. Des moines, is that where senator harris will be for a town hall tonight. Jeff, what are we going to see there tonight . What do caucus goers want to know right now from the senator . There is no question that this is a sense here when you talk to iowa voters, there is a hunger for this campaign to begin now. People may say isnt this too early . This is when campaigns normally begin. We saw the big speech yesterday in oakland, california. She will be on the stage behind me here on the campus of Drake University tonight. She will be taking questions from iowans. There is a sense here. The overall question is which candidate can take on donald trump . That is a subtext to every conversation you have with voters, to every discussion you have. Is it going to be a senator . Is it going to be a governor. She is getting a lot of attention here at this early stage. She will have a lot of company. There are still some uncertainties about this race. Will joe biden get in . In terms of the meeting with senator harris, people want to know where the democrats stand on a lot of issues. The big question hanging over all of this is the Democratic Party moving too far to the left in terms of medicare for all and crime issues, Climate Change issues. Its the shopping season, if you will. People are looking for candidates. One will be here tonight. Thats for sure. She told the crowd yesterday were better than this. She also hit on another theme, truth, over and over again. Here is an example. In this moment, we must all speak truth about what is happening. We must seek truth, speak truth and fight for the truth. [ cheers and applause ] so lets speak some truth. Shall we . When you combine it, we have seen a focus on values and character from president ial candidates before. What does it mean this time around . I think it is different because we do have a president if you look at the Washington Post, there have been thousands and thousands of misstatements and mistruths from this president. He is also a president who is under some scrutiny due to business relationships and things that went on during a campaign with russia. I think for her it works especially well because of her background as a prosecutor. She is running as the law and order candidate in many ways. That might be a problem for her in a democratic primary. We can already see some people pick apart her record as attorney general. I think it shoeholds a differen weight because she has been an officer of law. I think there is a contrast there. She doesnt have to say Donald Trumps name when she talks about smee would be somebody seeking the truth and speaking the truth because of Donald Trumps well known record having a difficult relationship with the truth. You can definitely say that. This high profile roll out for harris, in the first 24 hours after her Good Morning America announcement, she raised 1. 5 million. How does a big National Rollout play with Iowa Democrats . Look, there is no question that Iowa Democrats and democratic voters in other early voting states want to see these candidates. Again, they want to find someone who can win. This is at the very early stages. History will show you how perilous it is for a candidate to get hot too early, if you will. This is a very long, long race. The most recent example 12 years ago during the beginning of the 2008 campaign when barack obama was announcing. People think he had it easy. He won that nomination. Go back and look at the history books. He was not really a favorite in that race until far at the end of that year. Hillary clinton was the presumed favorite. So this is a long race filled with obstact courses and other matters. As senator harris will see every day will not be like her rally yesterday in oakland. That was the day that she controls. There will be others in the race by the end of this week, others could get in like Bernie Sanders possibly a cory booker. This is a crowded field, a diverse field. Most democrats say for now that is a good thing. Well see how big it is a year from now. There is also, then, Howard Schultz considering an independent run. With that news, the head of the Democratic Party in Washington State put out this message. This quote was pretty jarring. Howard schultz running as an independent isnt about bringing people together. It is about one person, Howard Schultz. What does this wildcard do to the 2020 race . Its really hard to know at this point. If you think about somebody like Howard Schultz a businessman, it is hard to know who he would draw voters from. Democrats in 2016 one problem was they werent able to get enough voters out. They just didnt show up in the numbers they needed in the midwest states like florida, as well. You think about Howard Schultz he would probably appeal to chamber of commerce republicans. You had donald trump tweeting this morning that he doesnt have the guts to get in, almost daring him to get in. You have democrats obviously nervous. Democrats are always nervous about everything. It is hard to know who this would benefit in a general election depending on who the candidate is for democrats. Obviously, the candidate we think will be donald trump. Well just have to see. We will have to see. Great to see you guys. On that note, i wunt want to bring in john kasich. I was lost in cyber space for a second. Im back. Its the russians. Im just going to say it. Im going to play for you what former starbucks ceo Howard Schultz what he did tell 60 minutes about the potential of an independent run. I am seriously thinking of running for president. I will run as a centrist independent outside of the two party system. We are living at a most fragile time, not only the fact that this president is not qualified to be the president , but the fact that both parties are consistently not doing whats necessary on behalf of the American People and are engaged every single day in revenge politics. Now, you have said similar things about the parties. What do you think about a schultz independent run . It gets to be that big middle ocean. If the democrats go hard left and if you promise everything medicare for all that moves way out here on the edge. And then you have donald trump on the right. The question is there is a middle ocean. Voters today are polarized. Im for the rams or im for the patriots. So we stick with our team. The question is, are people willing to leave the team to vote for somebody who is not affiliated . That is a big question for an independent cand candidacy. If someone like joe biden were the candidate it makes it harder for an independent run. At the last panel when they said its not really good to be hot as a candidate early, its good to be hot, hot, hot beginning, middle and end. The day you announce is such a great day. I have been there. You get so excited. You get so thrilled. You have so much momentum. You try to capitalize on it. What you are really trying to do at the end of the day is to capture peoples imagination. Thats what we have to look for in terms of this president ial election. Who can capture the peoples imagination with not just their issues, but the personality they have. Can they communicate to people that we get them . That was a reason why schultz was up in the apartment complex yesterday was to say i came from very humble beginnings, i get you. That to me is going to be such a critical message here in 2020. One other thing. When donald trump ran as a kind of a negative populist, he said i get you. His solution was you are a victim. That i dont like. But the idea that you must communicate to people in this country that we understand your struggles, health care, the fact that you are not getting ahead with your income, the fact that your kid cant get a job, that is what people i believe want to hear. Well see who can articulate that. This is something these very questions you have taken on. You have faced as governor of ohio. Are you still considering . I said all of my options are on the table. Im not prepared to make a decision. I just cant tell you what i intend to do. I have not given up or closed the door on anything. We have to see how things develop here. One person who is definitely sticking his neck out and making a statement with the Howard Schultz announcement is chris christie. He said Howard Schultz is the best news for donald trump that he has gotten in a long time. Do you see that statement . Do you understand it . The only thing you have to consider is they are about ready to roll out 5 g which is Technology Related to our phones and robots and so many things. We are talking about putting people on the moon. We are talking about exploruation of mars. We are talking about incredible advancements in medicine. We are talking about so many changes, cars that can drive themselves. This is not yesterday. This is today and tomorrow. Where the people are going to be in this country in an unsettling and dramatically changing time is not predictable. Do i think that politics could be changed dramatically . Absolutely. Everything else is changing. Why couldnt it change . Again, its about who. Who can capture peoples imagination and get them excited about the fact that we can have a leader that really g