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Cnn news central just a short time ago, president den made his first Public Comments on this stunning arizona ruling that revived a vil war era abortionan. He says that if you dont like that law, elected me and not donald trump. The Arizona Supreme Courts move this week brings even more attention to an already hotly contested battleground state democrats have pounced on this ruling, putting the blame on former President Trump and framing this as an issue of individual freedoms the republican message, its been muddled, especially in arizona. Trumpbacked Senate Candidate kari lake previously said this about the 800s, 64 law less than two years ago. Listen incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law thats already on the books. I believe its ars 133603. So it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother now league says, quote, i oppose the ruling, and im calling on katie hobbs and the State Legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support republican congressman David Schweikert celebrated the reversal of roe versus wade. He cosponsored a bill that would ban abortion nationwide at the moment of conception. But now look at this quote. I do not support the ruling from the Arizona Supreme Court. This issue should be decided by arizonans, not legislated from the bench and republican congressmen, juan ciscomani, he has said that hes proudly pro life and that abortion policies should be set by the states but now hes calling this abortion ban. Archaic, adding that quote, we must do better for women. And i call on our State Policymakers to immediately address this in a bipartisan manner. A lot to discuss with cnn senior political analyst, mark preston margaret it, its, its as if the dog is chasing the car hes caught the car and now doesnt know what to do. Republicans really opened a pandoras box with Reversing Dobbs and it doesnt seem like they had a plan for situations like this. They certainly didnt have a plan because they are getting what they wanted. They wanted the ability to restrict it in many cases, just flat out outlaw abortion and now its being handed to them. But what theyre realizing is that most of americans dont want to see abortion outlawed. In fact, if you look at some recent polling, you can see that the fact that its about six in ten americans right now, and were seeing this across multiple polls, believed that abortion should be illegal. And when youre going into this election, not just this, this congressional election, but this president ial election. Its going to be one of the top issues. There is a lack of consensus in the rePublican Party about Abortion Restrictions. And where they should land. And i think the most evident case is with donald trump set aside his history before even running for president when he said that he was prochoice to now where earlier this week after weeks of sort of hedging, he acknowledged that he believed that abortion should be up to the states contrast that with senator lindsey graham, who is trying to court trumps support and backing this 15 week abortion ban and on a federal level, what do you make of this bouncing back and forth within the rePublican Party . Do they need a consensus well, they dont need a consensus. And the fact that there are certainly parts of the country right now where abortion folks want to see abortion outlawed. That is, for certain, i mean, weve seen it in states such as mississippi for instance, but were also seeing in states such as kansas and kentucky, these are not democratic states who both rejected measures that would outlaw abortion. We started ohio, which again is not is not a democratic state, which also cited with abortion just a couple of years ago as well to voters did. So, republicans there are certainly taking a page from Donald Trumps book. Say one thing a year or two ago, Say Something different now, because thats where the electorate is. He did publicly chide republicans who took firm stances on this issue, saying, lets focus on other things. Lets not get explicit in the details about Abortion Restrictions can donald trump win the white house without arizona no no. I mean, look, we saw this happen just three years ago. We saw joe biden only when arizona by 11 thousand votes. This is still a very conservative state. The fact of the matter is this is going to be one of the states, including pennsylvania, michigan, georgia, that are all going to really decide who the next president united status. We played that sound from kari lake. That is going to be one of the pivotal races to determine control of the senate is there a broad path for republicans to take control of the senate if she loses its very difficult because again, you want to look in some of these states where we are democrats are vulnerable, such as montana for instance, is abortion going to be as potent in that state as it is an arizona i dont know. But the fact is we do know heading into november that the congress and the presidency is really going to show where we are as a country, incredibly divided incredibly divided even within parties. Mark preston. Thank you so much for breaking that down. Forrest brown our next guest is an Arizona State senator who last month revealed to her colleagues on the State Chambers Floor her very personal decision having abortion. Eva burch said the procedure was the safest and most appropriate option for her after learning her pregnancy was not viable, meaning the fetus its had no chance of living and it was a pregnancy that she very much wanted. Heres what she had to say after yesterdays ruling somebody gave me a procedure so they wouldnt have to experience another miscarriage the pain, the mess, the discomfort now were talking about whether or not we should put that doctor in jail Arizona State senator eva burch is with us now and i do want to talk about the politics with you, but its personal for you, not the least is well, youre also a nurse practitioner. And this was a difficult process for you . As you put it a pregnancy, you very much wanted failing. I wonder if that had happened a month from now for you, what would you have done instead well its really hard to say. Were very much in flux right now. And none of us can know with any amount of certainty what its going to be like in arizona a month from now. What we do know is that two years ago when roe was overturned, Abortion Clinic shutdown all across the state and i had had a very similar situation happened at that time where i had a pregnancy that failed. This is the second time that ive had a procedural abortion because of a field pregnancy. And it was only two weeks before roe wind down that i had that procedure, hadnt happened two weeks later then i would have had to go out of state that would have been the only option available to me the Attorney General here wont prosecute violators. Thats been made clear however, Planned Parenthood and arizona is going to stop abortions this is once this old law goes into effect here in 13 days because there could be future ramifications or local ramifications. Can arizona lawmakers do anything to stop it from going . Into effect they absolutely can. Not only can they now, but they should have quite some time ago. This has been available to us that weve been in session for months. We could have repealed this ban at any point in time, which really puts a little bit of a spin on it as were seeing some of these republican legislators backpedaling now saying that they dont think this is a good idea. They could have done something about this a long time ago. What Abortion Clinics shutdown all across the state of arizona. They should have done something about it, then we have known that this ban is on the books. Its been well understood and its been supported by a number of our republican legislators openly. Theyre not even hiding it. So well, i understand that, yes, there are things we we can do. We also have to acknowledge the fact that there are things we already should have done some of them supported it and now they dont. I wonder what you think about some of your republican colleagues who are now reversing themselves i think that it is transparent politically expedient, Act Of Desperation that they have realized that there are political consequences to their actions. But i really dont trust them. I dont believe them. I think that they are lying. And the reason that i think that is because we have all the evidence that we need to to know that theyre going to continue to chip away in a road if these rights they have been chipping away at Reproductive Health care for years and arizona, we can look at their Voting Records and we know where they stand. We can look at their statements in the past and we know where they stand. So if they want to play hero now and try to fix its this problem now that its become really a politically volatile situation for them thats fine. But theres no reliability that thats going to stand. Its the people of arizona who have to do something about this in november, the 15 week ban hinged on row, which obviously is now defunct. Its why the Arizona Supreme Court said abortion law in the state now snaps back to this 18, 60 for error ban former President Trump, who is responsible for appointing the Supreme Court justices who overturned roe said this today about the arizona decision when he was asked if the court went too far, lets listen arizona go to the governor and everybody else bring it back in taken care by the way. So he said there its its kinda tough to hear. He said the court went too far and that the arizona governor, who of course is a democrat, katie hobbs, will bring it to reason. What is your reaction . When you are the cause of the problem . You dont get to come back and say that now the democrats should clean up your mess. So of course im not surprised that thats what were hearing. But i know that in the future theyre going to continue again to chip away at these rights. So i really think that its the same scenario that were looking at with these legislators in arizona. Theyre backpedaling now because of the consequences not because they understand that what they have done is wrong. Nobody is taking accountability for the fact that this is their mass. They are the ones who got us here in the first place. And have to hold them accountable to that. You cant just say, oh, well, this was wrong. Lets fix it you have to say what i did was wrong. I made a mistake. How do we fix this . And thats not whats happening. Theres no accountability right now at the state level or from the press presidency, or from the former president rather, we really have to hold the people who got us here accountable for what they did obviously a lot in flux in arizona, and we appreciate you taking some time to speak with us today. Arizona state senator eva burch. Thank you thanks for having me lets go to boris now with some Breaking News for us exist in to cnn police in philadelphia are responding to reports of a shooting at a large crowd in philadelphia. This is live footage from a helicopter over the area weve seen a large number of Police Vehicles spread out over different intersection ill sizable Police Presence there seen as athena jones has been following this story. Athenas so far no word yet on injuries thats right what you just said, boris is about what we know, what we have confirmed so far there is, as you can see there on the ground, a large Police Presence there. We know that Public Transportation is also confirming that theres this activity going on. We understand this, what there was a shooting and a large crowd, but what we dont know is how many shooters were there, how many possible victims were there . We were not yet sure how many people may have been arrested, how many weapons may have been recovered. So theres still a lot of questions that we dont know the answer to. But we expect to learn more as time goes on our own reporter of cnns Danny Freeman is heading to the location to find out more on the ground. There in philadelphia. But of course this is this is not good news ever to learn about shooting of this sort. And we know that philadelphia is like many other major cities, having to deal with gun violence on a regular basis. This is the latest example of that. But as of right now, awaiting War Information from authorities as to what exactly went down at this now reported shooting that that police are investigating their their in filet boris please stand by and various more information when you get it we have former Boston Police commissioner, ed davis with us as well. Im not sure if youve been able to see some of the images that weve been monitoring from the sky. It does not appear like there is an enormous urgency in the Police Response to this point. What do you gather from some of the images that you were seeing . Well this is obviously a very serious incident on this holiday after ramadan. It appears from what im hearing that there was an event in the park. There it also appears from what im seeing that it looks like its under control theyre there is worried that there are people arrested in that would coincide with what im seeing with the Police Response. There. Theyre present, theyre processing is but theres no active shooting from the looks of things right now. So its tragic because this is in such an important day it it, it looks like its under control at this point in time yeah. And and listen, it is iid. It is the breaking of the fast marking the end of ramadan. And we see people wearing traditional dress in some of these pictures, we do not know if there is any connection, but there does appear that there was some gathering in the area related to the holiday. There are a lot of details that we dont know at this point. Ed just tell us what youre seeing is youre looking at these pictures. We see so many cars. It is obviously at a very busy intersection there. As you see it, it appears to be a Commercial Area and maybe as well or residential area yes, im told its a park that the event happened in and there were several hundred people in attendance so when something this upsetting happens, theyll maintain a significant Police Presence there. But remember the responsibility of the police where they arrive at a scene like this is to assist the injured arrest the suspect if thats possible. And then process the crime scene. Now, they also have to worry about just general upset among the people that are at the crowd. In the crowd, you have to treat them as victims. Even if theyve been psychologically affected by whats occurred. So theres a lot of assurance and responsibility on the police to make sure that people get out of this safely and are taken care of as best that we can after an incident like this. But really the responsibility to police right now secure their crime scene, grab all the evidence that you can secure a video from the area so that you can put a case together against whos ever responsible for this . As you were describing, investigators sort of combing through the scene just from the view of the sky and where the Police Presence is, it looks like its very broad, spanning several different intersections, several different corners of this part of philadelphia. Whats it like especially early on in the process to start going through a sizable scene like this its very difficult and weve had seems like that in the Police Departments. Ive run there are special considerations. First of all, its a its an area that is covered with grass, so its not as easy to find spent Shell Casings and things like that. So theyll most likely bring in ballistics, dogs to run over the property to see what they can find the hidden in the grass. Theyll also use strategies like line searches. So theres a significant number of offices there they set them up in a line and methodically walked the property so that theyve got everything thats on the ground and they dont miss anything the other thing is sort of just keeping people out of the area thats another challenge in an open area like that, you need to have a significant number of officers on the outside perimeter making sur