Dont wait call today. Code now and ask about the bosley guarantee central. Today. And second welcome back. Its wednesday, april 10, right now on cnn this morning, a Civil War Era Abortion Law Reinstated in arizona, igniting a problem for republicans that donald trump was trying to tamp down President Biden, questioning israels war strategy against hamas and elevating his criticism of Prime Minister netanyahu and House Republicans delaying their attempt to impeach Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas all right 6 00 a. M. Here in washington, theres a live look at the Nations Capital on this wednesday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us problem leave it up to the states. That was Donald TrumpsBig Announcement On Abortion Rights on monday. But it didnt take long for voters to be reminded what leave it up to the states actually can look like. The state Supreme Court in arizona upheld an 18, 64. Yes, thats correct. 18 64 law. The bands all abortions with only one exception for the life of the mother. There are no exceptions for rape or incest. The law was written before arizona became a state and before women had the right to vote trumps announcement earlier this week was seemingly designed to help republicans appeal to a broader array of voters. May have backfired just seven months before the Election Voters in arizona, of course, a key swing state that could decide who wins the presidency, but go to the polls in november with Reproductive Rights on the line. And in their hands, trump has former President Trump has repeatedly expressed pride in the fact that he orchestrated the demise of Roe Versus Wade something that the white house is more than happy to remind voters about onethird of all women of reproductive age. Now live in a state with an abortion ban. When the president s predecessor handicapped three Supreme Court justices to overturn roe v. Wade. It paved the way for the chaos and confusion were seeing play out across the country today Abortion Rights have not lost a single time when the issue has been left to voters, arizonas trained general calls ruling a stain on the state and Governor Katie Hobbs said, shes ready to fight for the fight over Reproductive Rights. And then near total Civil War Era Ban that continues to hang over our heads only serves to create more chaos for women and doctors in our state as governor, i promised i would do everything in my power to protect our reproductive freedom all right, are panels here now, former senator doug jones, david froms, staff writer for the atlantic and sure. Michael singleton, former deputy chief of staff at hud in the Trump Administration welcome all. Thank you very much for being here. David, from i want to give you the first word on this as you look at how this played out in arizona, its its almost the perfect storm and encapsulation of this issue in a single situation, a law from 18, 64 being reinstated well, the Abortion Debate is one of the rare cases in 20 american 2024 were american democracy and politics are working the way theyre supposed to so long as roe v. Wade was in place, it created perverse incentives for everyone in politics. It radicalized people wanted to restrict Abortion Rights and gave them very unrealistic ideas of what they could achieve and it made defenders of Abortion Rights complacent because they look to the courts to do the job and the controversy never went away. I never never was resolved in any way because there was this Background Law that everyone assumed would always be there. Now, the Background Law is gone, and voters have to go to the polls and decide what is a resolution that america can live with. And were discovering that america is a 70, 30 nation on Abortion Rights with 70 wanting some version of Abortion Rights and 30 wanting very restricted. And the 70 will win it will have ramifications up and down the ballot in 2024 lot of republicans who in years past counting on roe v wade, took extreme positions that they themselves did not believe because it was a free vote. Why not . There was no, no downside risks. Are now discovering, wait a minute, i may have to act on these words i said, and then when ive acted, ive discovered is banned in Vitro Fertilization and women across the country and menn two who want to be fathers are angry at me and what were going to see is an energized Democratic Party and i think after the chastening lessons of 2024, republican party, that is less radical on the issue than it used to be. So to your point about the way people would take this as something that they could could say, i do want to show senator jones what kari lake had to say in the immediate aftermath and dogs being overturned. This was back in june of 2020 and she was talking about the arizona law that has now been put back in play. Watch what she said im incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law thats already on the books. I believe its ars 133603. So it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother senator john. So she said, its a great law and shes incredibly thrilled this contrast significantly with what she said when this happened yesterday, when she said, i oppose todays ruling and im calling on katie hobbs in the State Legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support that seems to crystallize and youre asking seeing me if that makes sense . No. Absolutely does not make sense except in the context is david was saying of folks that are now realizing that the dog has caught the car and they dont know what to do. They dont know what to say. They did not think through what they were saying. And in the moment because they were simply pandering to a base of voters in the republic and party. A very extreme prolife movement. And now theyre caught and all of a sudden the same thing we saw happen with the ivf ruling in an Alabama State legislators were running around with their hair on fire saying, oh me, oh, my we didnt anticipate this. We didnt see this coming. Well, theyre right. They didnt because they dont think it through. They didnt think it through. And thats exactly where we are as david described a minute ago. And youre going to see more of that, i think in the near future sure. Michael, is this the issue that will put it how you want save joe biden, sake donald trump. Its possible. I mean, youre looking at a 10,457 vote difference in arizona granted in 2016, former President Trump had a higher vote margin than President Biden in 2020. Yet, im not certain that that will really make much of a difference. Donald trumps path to the white house in november will be through a handful of battleground states. He has to maintain north carolina, regained georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin he cannot afford to lose one of those four states, either georgia, arizona, nevada, whats continent and expect to win so this idea that abortion is back at the forefront, again, is isnt saturday to meet it. And i understand the former president wanted to say return it back to the states and i would have argued just hit return it back to the states and allow voters in those states to vote on it. Because what were seeing is when people vote on the issue hello, we want to protect this, right . It is not just democrats, kasie, its republicans as well. So lets remind everyone just where and how donald trump has talked about this issue over the years. Were going to start in 1999, watch this im very pro choice. I hate the concept of abortion. Im prolife. There has to be some form of punishment for the woman. Both sides will come together and for the first time in 52 years, youll have an issue that we can put behind us at the federal level. It could be state or could be federal. I dont frankly care i dont frankly care. I mean, that is hes all over the map. I mean, thats the Biden Campaign can use that pretty easily absolutely. Theres no question about it every one of those will be seen over and over and over again. I think in states and you name it, its going to be seen and not only that youre going to have their surrogates out there who have said the same thing. Youre going to have lindsey graham, youre going to have tim scott, youre going to have all of these every surrogate that donald trump puts out there has the exact same position and im im im like i agree with you. I think it is going to be a Killer Energy jones, use the analogy of the dog that caught the car, i think this is more like the coyote running off the edge of the cliff. Its on the realizing hes 10,000 feet up and theres nothing that ethan, what does that give you that Wily Coyote Animation next time you come up here, but its not just donald trump. This is this is the republicans have, over the past generation, been pushed by their own internal dynamics and positions that are sustainable. They dont believe, i mean, donald trump, you can see this is one of the rare cases where you can actually feel sympathy for him. So Donald Trumps in politics to collect applause into steel. He has no views on abortion whatsoever, any way you want to do it. He doesnt care he just was what he learned was the incentives within his party where to be as extreme as possible in a completely insincere way. And now suddenly words have meaning, words have results, and therefore words have costs. And once words have costs, politicians measure their words before now, words did not have cost at least on the republican side and they didnt measure that well scuffing really quickly for the image gallegos should be if you want to win in november, youve had to leave this alone. Women dont want you coming after their Reproductive Rights. Is that simple . Republicans need to understand that all right, we are, obviously, weve got a lot to talk about here. Were going to keep talking about this throughout the show, but up next here, why House Republicans are holding off on sending the Homeland Security secretarys impeachment to the senate, plus a long trump confidant facing sentencing today for perjury. 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Democrats sticking to their plan were going to try and resolve this issue as quickly as possible impeachment should never be used to settle Policy Disagreements so senator jones, you obviously were around to see the Impeachment Trials in the senate whats going on here in terms of this, this really does feel like i remember i went on Maternity Leave during the first impeachment of donald trump and i thought to myself, oh, my gosh, im never going to get to cover for an Impeachment Trial in my whole career. And lo and behold, a year later, i was proven wrong and youve heard critics like ken buck say impeachment has just become a social media stuff, right . It is, its just totally weapon us. This is a Policy Difference and i think whats going to happen ultimately is theyre going to figure out a way to give maybe some time to the Impeachment Managers to come in, make a quick case, get the vote over and get this over with. This is, this is just wrong. I mean, this is absolutely wrong to put Policy Differences on the floor in the form of an Impeachment Trial. You really think its gonna get that far that were actually going to see people making statements on the floor. Its possible. I think its very possible. I didnt have to. I mean, they could clearly take one vote and have these charges dismissed. But i think in order to make sure that that republicans, democrats have some somewhat of work, some semblance of procedure. Theres at least a chance there will be some small. Trial, not necessarily even at trial, but at least statements on the four it gets it over with pretty quickly. David, from how do you think about this . The fact that this would be the first time in history, Something Like this would happen. Well, imagine that the Social Security administration was underinvested in computers for decades as a result, there was a crisis and all the checks were late. People would be mad. So you i have an idea. Lets impeach the Social Security administrator. What will that accomplish . The computers will still be broken. Are the checks will still be late its not actually that one person who made the relevant decision that you care about. Its its decades its a poor ned which fortunately is not true in the Social Security administration. So the border doesnt want the immigration system doesnt work. You have massive over stressing of the asylum laws. Thats all true. But thi