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American history tomorrow, opening arguments are set to begin in the first where he is facing dozens of charges related to film actress Stormy Daniels. Tonight, trump is lashing out at the judge, again, calling for the gag order to be removed. Ahead of a hearing on tuesday. Prosecutor said last week that trump had already violated that order seven times already. Lets get straight to cnns Marshall Cohen and joins me here on set. So marshall, tomorrow is going to be unprecedented in so many ways. What are you going to be looking out for . Well, i am not looking to see the judge take that gag quarter away. Right. We all know thats not going to happen. Thats just trump lashing out. He is allowed to attack the judge. He is allowed to attack the da, but he is not permitted to talk about the other prosecutors, the staff at the court. And importantly, the Family Members of the judge. So he is toeing the line. Theyre going against the judge saying playing playing within the rules and limitations. But theres that hearing on thursday. On tuesday about the gag order. But before we get to tuesday, of course, is tomorrow with the start of opening states pavements a historic moment, prosecutors will start telling their story to the jury and they have a very compelling story to tell a lot of witnesses lined up over the next few weeks. Take us through what this is actually going to look like, because were gonna be getting most of our information from reporters and others who were inside the courtroom, not actually seeing in ourselves thats right its a very interesting setup. This is how many quarts are, some have cameras. We watched all those hearings last month from georgia. No cameras in new york, so we have our team in the courtroom. They can use their laptops and if they can type fast enough, we can get it to air and share it with the american public. Look, this is all hello about a Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels, the Adult Film Actress back in 2016 to keep her mouth shut to stop her from going public with allegations of an affair with donald trump, which he denies the payment was made through Donald Trumps than attorney Michael Cohen. He he is a Star Witness For The Prosecution the theory of the case, alex, according to the prosecutors, is that those payments that were given back to Michael Cohen through the trump organization, that they were falsified records. They were claimed to be Legal Expenses when really it was a Hush Money Payment types teddy 2016 election to keep that information away from the voters. You mentioned Michael Cohen. We dont have Witness Lists yet that has not yet been revealed, but we have a sense of who could be called these are some big names that many people are familiar with. Yeah, Big Cast Of Characters from back 2016 Michael Cohen, hes a big one. Stormy daniels will tell her side of the story. Theres also hope hicks, who was a Campaign Official and a Trump Confidant back at that time she can give some of the behind the scenes, retelling of how the campaign was reacting to negative youve stories about Donald Trumps relationships with women at the time. Theres also david, who was involved with the national enquirer. It was that scheme, that agreement that alleged agreement between cohen and trump that prosecutors have put at the centerpiece of this case. They allege that those three men gotten room and in 2015 and agreed that they would make sure that stories like these never saw the light of day prosecutors say that that was election interference because it was interfering with what the voters had a right to know before they went to the polls. And that was a journalistic practice. But as you say, it crossed legal lines into campaign law. And violent questions theyre all the prosecuting the eyes of the prosecutors, of course, that remains to be seen, whether the jury that has now been chosen agrees with that. Marshall cohen we know we will be following it closely. Thank you very much. Appreciate it republican lawmakers appear to be having a tough time defending trump in the hush money case. Instead, Summer Casting doubt about the Justice System soon as manu raju asked several republicans about trump and what he is accused of doing in the case texas what about the Character Issues here monday, let me listen because i want the Character Issues of alvin bragg. This is the bragg case, right . Yes, its hard to keep talking about bragg. Im talking about trumps character shall break. Yeah, you want to answer for trump . Listen it means trump denies the underlying allegations he was thomas paine said that if all men lived as angels, them, we wouldnt need the power of government. But if the conduct concern yeah, i mean, you get so much stuff that comes around. All that. I kind of dont give it a lot of thought. Justice systems in motion. Well see if its a fair drop lets discuss this with our panel of cnn political commentators, democratic strategist Maria Cardona and republican strategist Alice Stewart together they host the podcast hot mics from left to right. Thank you both so much for being with me this evening. Marie, i want to start with you in the past and throughout all of Donald Trumps legal travails he has kept fundraising. Hes been using this on the Campaign Trail to rally his base as this case gets underway, the first of ben different for donald trump . Well, not in that hes going to continue to use it to rile up his base and to continue to try to get money from them. But the difference is alex, we are past the republican primary. He has his base already and even during the primary, we saw that he was losing anywhere between 11 and 20 of the votes during the republican primary. That is a huge red flag for him going into the general election now that were in the general, he has got to Start Playing addition and what hes doing, his attitude, his wanting to so get rid of the gag order, his talk about retribution, all of that is focusing on subtraction because he needs to now trying the he needs to be trying to appeal to independent voters everything that he is doing where theres gonna be a split screen of americans saying a criminal defendant on trial and joe biden, the president for reelection on the trail. All of that helps for the addition for President Biden. And were now seeing it as the poles are shifting and bidens direction right . I want to play a clip from the south dakota governor and potential trump vp pick kristi noem earlier she says that she plans to vote for trump, even if he is criminally convicted. In the Hush Money Trial, lets take a listen talking to people across the country. They dont even know which trial this is. Theyre like, i dont remember which one this wasnt about. Is this the one theyre coming after him for this or this, if donald trump is convicted in this trial, we you still support him in november my choice is between joe biden and donald trump Every Single Day of the week . Yes, i will support donald trump alex, what do you make of that . Thats how many republicans feel. Look what would certainly much rather have the economy, the border and National Security and Public Safety of the trump leadership, than the Biden Leadership that is without question. And look, the republican party, theres two subsets, basically, his rabbit base is fully on board with everything he says when he walks into the courtroom and out of the courtroom, this is weaponization of the doj. Im a victim. This is a witchhunt. This is prosecutorial misconduct against bidens biggest threat that is what he feels he has a martyr in his supporters believe that then on the rational republicans that realize theres some there, there, there might be some questionable activity, but at the end of the day, they would much rather have his policies over bidens. But my dear friend maria is correct, and the gold now is not the republicans for donald trump. It is the pendant voters. And weve seen poll after poll that shows theyre keeping an eye on this trial. And it might cause some concern. But if there was a conviction that could be a game changer, the good thing for republicans and donald trump trumps legal issues are far from the top of concern for voters. Theyre concerned about the economy jobs, the border, as well as Public Safety. And this, these trials, as much as they talk, we are talking about this a lot in the media. The average person in middle america, i can assure you is not concerned about Donald Trumps trials. Youre concerned about their paycheck and putting food on their table they are also concerned about somebody like donald trump taking away their rights and freedoms, which is why i think youre also seeing the closing of the gap the number shifting and bidens direction because while this all of these trials are going on in this is going to go on for weeks and again, i will say for independent voters, that is not going to be a good image for republicans to serve for independent voters continue to see that day after day, youre also seeing the issue of rights and freedoms play out. The Abortion Issue is going to be top of mind over and over and over again. While donald trump think, thinks he put it aside, he actually let that Gasoline Hump on fire because of what he said when he talks about he doesnt hes not going hes no longer going to be supporting a federal ban, but we know that if one lands on his desk, he will sign it. He says he supports the states. The states have some of the most egregious foul extremist laws that are doing harm and frankly, causing the deaths of american women all across country. I want to ask you about mike johnson and his prospects. If youre whether he can hold onto his job because alice he angered a lot of republicans by bringing forward, particularly this ukraine bill, which he had opposed for so long Marjorie Taylor greene, rather surprising in the yesterdays say, said she wasnt immediately bringing this motion to vacate forward. She wanted lawmakers to hear from their constituents, but she has called on him to resign. So how much of a threat is what johnson did and in terms of allowing those votes yesterday, a threat to his speakership. Look, her threat as to Congress Getting things done. She has such up selfserving member. Of congress. This is all about her fund raising, her getting attention. Shes causing chaos and confusion. The problem is she doesnt have the army to back her up. And the frustrating part of all of this is she talks about putting forth this motion to vacate. She didnt put forth a plan. She has not put forth an alternative if she really had the all do this, she would have done this before this big vote yesterday and put our money where her mouth is and she is certainly not doing this. My hats off to Speaker Johnson while shes playing Real Housewives of georgia, throwing up tables he threw this to prayer. He preyed on this. He put this in gods hands and Thank Goodness in this case, god one here and hes not putting out a Fundraising Letter like Marjorie Taylor greene is. Do you think that the democrats should it come to that, that they should try to rescue him. I mean, this was a rare and remarkable show of bipartisanship getting this 95 billion approved for israel, ukraine in the indopacific democrats will always do whats in the best interests of the country. And democrats, majority of democrats have always supported money for ukraine because we know that thats in the best interest of our National Security. And frankly for the survival of democracy worldwide. The sad part of what is happening. And i get that so many people are giving kudos, even democrats to Speaker Johnson. But that is how low the bar has become for a republican Speaker Of The House to do his freaking job. This could have been done back in october if mike johnson had had the where with on the spine to do it now hes done it six months later while ukraine has lost so much on the battlefield. But yes, Thank Goodness we are where we are now and with the help of democrats, Speaker Johnson has finally been able to do his job. Democrats will continue to do whats right for the country and in the future, if this means coming to his saving, if Marjorie Taylor greene does put this on the floor well see if that occurs again it it speaks to just how low the republican congressional leadership has gone in terms of losing control of their own caucus. If democrats do have to come to his, to his aide, i dont think its going to be for free. I think its gonna be for some kind of powersharing or something that again, will benefit the country because democrats are always going to do whats in the best interests of america. I think its important, hats off again to Speaker Johnson for showing true leadership in the face of Potential Ouster by the vocal minority in the house. I think this is an opportunity for americans to sit back and say, Thank Goodness, Congress Worked on a bipartisan fashion. We sent a strong message to russia to china, to iran, the proxies in any of these other nations that are want to put a threat to democracy. And i think everyone should call their member of congress that voted for this and tell them, thank you. We live a couple of moments left, but alice, does that mean that you think theres some fatigue that setting in, in the Republican Caucus over all of this chaos because how johnsons acting is not so different than what kevin carthy didnt yet he was ousted but again, i think when you talk to rational republicans, i know you talked to them all the time. Theyre really, theyre tired of the chaos and confusion. Theyre running for reelection. Some of them are trying to help get themselves reelected. And mike johnson is not focused on a few people saying, were going to kick you out. He is laserfocused on november. Hes going to hit the road and raise money for candidates hes hitting a lot of states in the south. Thats where all of their focuses are trying to save their own jobs, but also saved the republican majority in the house. Alice made a good point, which is they understand that theyre up for reelection and if they kept acting the way that they have been acting up until now hes a huge Dumpster Fire in congress they know that democrats would absolutely take over the house. I still think that will happen because americans do not want to see the repeat over and over again. And we still, that could still happen. And no doubt they will get a lot of questions on the Campaign Trail about ukraine record anna Alice Stewart. Thank you both so much. Appreciate it. We have special coverage of Opening Statements and former President Trumps criminal Hush Money Trial that starts at 9 00 a. M. Tomorrow. You can watch right here on cnn or stream at all on max still ahead. 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