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Im starting a Private Equity Fund that specializes in midcap. You do you. Switch to Xfinity Mobile today. Is it possible my network could take my business to the next level . It is with comcast business. Powering all your devices with gigspeed wifi. And you get fast downloads and uploads. Pick it up pick it up oh we got this because its powered by The Next Generation 10g network. More speed for your business . Its not just possible. Its happening. Get started for 59. 99 a month for 12 months. Plus, ask how to get an 800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. Comcast business, powering possibilities. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Im jim acosta in washington. Good evening. The government is headed straight for a shutdown at the end of this week unless congress can come to an agreement and pass a Spending Bill at the end of this week. But as the hours go by, and we get closer to that deadline on midnight of September 30th, there you see it on screen, there are no signs of compromise among republican lawmakers. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy admits he doesnt have the votes at this point, even for a stopgap measure, and members of his own party, gop hardliners are stymieing him in his efforts to keep the government open. Lets discuss more now with republican congressman ralph garmin of south dakota. He is a member of the House Freedom caucus. Congressman, thanks very much for being with us. We appreciate it. Do you think were heading toward a shutdown . Whats your sense of it right now . Yes, we are. We will be next week we met in rules committee. We passed out four bills well stoned the floor, department of defense, agriculture, Homeland Security and state and foreign ops. Well put them on the floor. Well probably debate it the next two days and vote on it by friday, and hopefully send that over. But, jim, the real issue is not the shutdown. The real issue is the two crisis we have in this country. Economic security crisis and economic crisis. Weve got a problem in this country. And what weve done in rules is attach to the homeland bill. Weve got the language that unless they force hr2 that is the security border, strict enforcement of that, were not going fund what mayorkas, because he hasnt done the job and he hasnt put the money to it. This administration has put this country into tough shape economically and with National Security. Wont a Government Shutdown exacerbate the Economic Situation in this country . And its certainly not going to help down at the border, if Border Patrol agents arent getting paid because there is a Government Shutdown. Well, whats we cant expect a different result. Again, weve done this, i dont know how many years. Thats weve got to 32 trillion in debt. Were going have a permanent shutdown if we dont get this economic crisis handled in this country. And so were going try to one thing that we did in january in the election of mccarthy is ask for the Spending Bills, 12 Appropriation Bills to go line item by line item in june and july and not wait until the last minute. So September 30th has never been a figment of our imagination. October 1 has always been the new budget year. Is there is a part of you that wants to shut the government down to send a message . Is that part of this . There are just some members in the Freedom Caucus who want to shut it down to see if the message can get across that youre trying to send . No. The message were getting across is its not business as usual. Were not going bankrupt this country. Were not going to do it. And they keep doing the same thing. Weve always both democrat and republican, jim, have run it down to the wire. And then it will go on these Continuing Resolutions. It will go if we approve it a spending gap, a spending amount, either 30 days or we get it through christmas, and then say oh, were going to have to go to the same spending levels, but much higher, as weve always done. And were not doing that. Yeah. So you got a government that sure shut the businesses down. They sure shut the School Children out of schools. And its time we get a handle on it. And were going to do it. Well, let me ask you this. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy had some choice words for members of your conference, republican conference, its own party. Lets listen to what he told reporters on thursday. Its frustrating in the sense that i dont understand why anybody votes against bringing the idea and having the debate. And then youve got all the amendments if you dont like the bill. This is a whole new concept of individuals that just want to burn the whole place down. That doesnt work. Congressman, the speaker there saying there are members of your conference who want to burn the whole place down. Are you one of those members who wants to burn the whole place down . It sounds like he is calling you an arsonist. No. Look, its not about Kevin Mccarthy. Kevin should have had us working in july and august to come up with an agreement on the Spending Bills. And he had agreed in january to do that, to get us on a downward spending trajectory. He just hasnt done that. He has been in congress 17 years. Now, you know, we either are going toe face a reality, and he calls frustrated with us. The American People are frustrated with the way government has not worked and the way government politicians have spent their money. How can you and other Freedom Caucus members drive this hard line here . How can others in your Caucus Demand that you have this position that everybody has to go along with when you dont have the numbers . Well, we passed a dod bill out, and it didnt have the numbers. Look, its all about the, again, economic security. And anybody that doesnt see whats going on at the border and doesnt know that this country is were at a tipping point. And we either handle it or we dont. But Government Employees wont be getting paychecks. Members of the military wont be getting paychecks. Members of the Border Patrol down on the border wont be getting paychecks. Youre comfortable with that . Thats not right. Theyre going to get paid back pay. Whenever we open back up, and we will open back up. Look, jim, the sun is going to still shine. The ocean but thats real pain that theyre going to be going through. Are you going to get paid . Yes, Congress Gets paid. I didnt write the constitution. Im not that old. But what ill tell you this is americans living paycheck to paycheck. Simply, you can agree or disagree with it a lot of the members of the military are living paycheck to paycheck. If theyre not getting paid, you say theyre going to get back pay. If theyre living paycheck to paycheck, that doesnt sound too good for members of the military, members of the Border Patrol . , no its not. No, its not. But you mentioned Border Patrol. Theyre so frustrated with what this administration is doing, to let everybody in, everybody in this country. Its just not right. And were on tap to have 15 million illegals in this country as we how is that working out in new york . Its not. And so were tying the Border Security now to Homeland Security. Were going to do that on every appropriations bill to get a number, and well see where it goes. Everybody listening to this show ought to call their senator, because thats whoo were going to put it back on. And thank god, finally, schumer is getting booed. Aoc is getting booed. The American Public knows whats going on. Are you going to take responsibility for this . We were talking to john bolton, the former National Security adviser in a previous hour on this program who said typically when the government shuts down, republicans get blamed for it. Isnt thats whats going to happen this time around . Are you prepared to shoulder that blame . Look, this isnt about blame. This is about doing whats right for the country. And were trying to do that. It isnt business as usual. And the fact that americans live pay to paycheck because of this bidenomics, you know the one family its working for . Joe biden and his family. No one else its working for. The 330 million americans dont deserve it. All im saying is lets live like every business and every family does. Look at your spending and try to agree on it and know this will be the senates responsibility and the democrats who have caused this crisis. And it shouldnt be at this point in the history of this country. But how can you accuse democrats of causing this crisis when youre the ones who are going to shut down the government . Youre saying youre going to do it. Thats you. The last three and a half years, weve had an invasion. Hes opened it up. And guess what . I suspected this. Its for Keeping Democrats in office. He is giving jim, get this. He is giving Social Security and drivers licenses to illegal aliens. Are you trying to say there is an invasion of migrants in this country and the democrats are doing this to get elected . Is that what youre saying . Thats just not true. No, it is true. Look it up. He has given Social Security numbers and drivers licenses. He has done it in new york. What do you call that . What else can you call that . Give me a term for it. Sir, that is something that i mean, it sound like what youre doing when you say that is demonizing immigrants, when you say theyre coming into this country as some part of invasion to change the political calculus in this country. Thats not the case. There are lots of people who come into this country as immigrants and end up voting republican. Coming into this country legally. They come into this country legally. You term it however you want. They come in legally. Never before have we opened our borders up to every country all across the globe. And were going to stop it, one way or another. How you going to lock down the border, have better Border Protection if you shut down the government. I guess i dont understand that. That doesnt make any sense. Well, what does make sense and were going to have to force the public is going to have to force this Biden Administration to let the Border Patrol agents do their job, to get the wall built, have designated points of entry. And this administration is not doing it. Theyre doing it intentionally. And whether you agree with it or not, theyre doing it for power. Why are they giving Social Security numbers and drivers licenses why are you saying that . Intentionally doing what . Where is your evidence of this . Where is your proof of this . It just sounds like youre throwing rhetoric around with no basis in fact. Have you been to the border . Of course i have. Have you seen whats going on, the rapes, its open. Nobody can deny that. The border is its a crisis. Ill ask the questions, sir. And the border is not open. That is something that is peddled as a talk point, but its not true. There are fences. There are walls. There are Border Patrol agents who work on the border. The five plus million that have gotten into this country illegally is not a figment of our imagination. Ask the Border Patrol agents. Ask anybody down there. Theyre frustrated. You have not been able to answer my question as to how you effectively do Border Enforcement if youre shutting down the government. But i guess were not going to get an answer to that question. Right . I mean, if you shut down the government, saturday rolls around, youre going to have Border Patrol agents who are going to be without pay. How are they going to want to go out there and do Border Patrol enforcement if theyre not getting paid . It sounds like an effective way of running the government. Well, whats ineffective is this president doing what he is doing to america, and it shouldnt happen. Your own speaker says you want to burn the whole place down. I disagree with that. Hes we should, again, im not going to repeat it. You can say all you want, the border is closed and the border is an orderly people are being processed. Theyre not. He has created a National Security problem. When you have pilots telling me that as when i was down there, the pilots, the people you remember donald trump said he was going to build a wall down on the border, and it didnt happen. He said mexico was going the pay for it, and it didnt happen. Jim, look, those are your talking points. He did build a wall. He couldnt finish it because joe biden stopped him when he unfortunately went into office. And steel is laying on the ground, paying subcontractors. Its a National Security problem. Youre, you know congressman cnn should report whats going on. We are down there at the border all the time reporting on whats taking it place. Were doing it every day. Congressman, thanks very much for your time. We appreciate it. Well be right back. Yes, sir. At morgan stanley, Old School Hard Work meets bold n thinking. Partnering to unlock new ideas, to cate new legacies, to transform a company, industry, economy, generation. 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Hmmmm . Hmm . Hmmmm . So jjs for lunch . The first ever lexus rx plugin hybrid. Electric for short trips. Gas for long. It really is both. Its just after 7 00 p. M. Here in washington, but all eyes are on midnight, saturday. Lawmakers have just six days now to pass a Spending Bill to fund the government and prevent a shutdown. Joining us now with the democratic Point Of View is congressman Brendan Boyle of pennsylvania. Congressman, thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. Youre the ranking democrat on the house Budget Committee. Were just talking to one of your republican colleagues a few moments ago, ralph norman of south carolina. When i asked him are we heading towards a shutdown, he simply said yes. Is that your sense of it as well . If we have a Private Equity Fund<\/a> that specializes in midcap. You do you. Switch to Xfinity Mobile<\/a> today. Is it possible my network could take my business to the next level . It is with comcast business. Powering all your devices with gigspeed wifi. And you get fast downloads and uploads. Pick it up pick it up oh we got this because its powered by The Next Generation<\/a> 10g network. More speed for your business . Its not just possible. Its happening. Get started for 59. 99 a month for 12 months. Plus, ask how to get an 800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. Comcast business, powering possibilities. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Im jim acosta in washington. Good evening. The government is headed straight for a shutdown at the end of this week unless congress can come to an agreement and pass a Spending Bill<\/a> at the end of this week. But as the hours go by, and we get closer to that deadline on midnight of September 30th<\/a>, there you see it on screen, there are no signs of compromise among republican lawmakers. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> admits he doesnt have the votes at this point, even for a stopgap measure, and members of his own party, gop hardliners are stymieing him in his efforts to keep the government open. Lets discuss more now with republican congressman ralph garmin of south dakota. He is a member of the House Freedom<\/a> caucus. Congressman, thanks very much for being with us. We appreciate it. Do you think were heading toward a shutdown . Whats your sense of it right now . Yes, we are. We will be next week we met in rules committee. We passed out four bills well stoned the floor, department of defense, agriculture, Homeland Security<\/a> and state and foreign ops. Well put them on the floor. Well probably debate it the next two days and vote on it by friday, and hopefully send that over. But, jim, the real issue is not the shutdown. The real issue is the two crisis we have in this country. Economic security crisis and economic crisis. Weve got a problem in this country. And what weve done in rules is attach to the homeland bill. Weve got the language that unless they force hr2 that is the security border, strict enforcement of that, were not going fund what mayorkas, because he hasnt done the job and he hasnt put the money to it. This administration has put this country into tough shape economically and with National Security<\/a>. Wont a Government Shutdown<\/a> exacerbate the Economic Situation<\/a> in this country . And its certainly not going to help down at the border, if Border Patrol<\/a> agents arent getting paid because there is a Government Shutdown<\/a>. Well, whats we cant expect a different result. Again, weve done this, i dont know how many years. Thats weve got to 32 trillion in debt. Were going have a permanent shutdown if we dont get this economic crisis handled in this country. And so were going try to one thing that we did in january in the election of mccarthy is ask for the Spending Bill<\/a>s, 12 Appropriation Bills<\/a> to go line item by line item in june and july and not wait until the last minute. So September 30th<\/a> has never been a figment of our imagination. October 1 has always been the new budget year. Is there is a part of you that wants to shut the government down to send a message . Is that part of this . There are just some members in the Freedom Caucus<\/a> who want to shut it down to see if the message can get across that youre trying to send . No. The message were getting across is its not business as usual. Were not going bankrupt this country. Were not going to do it. And they keep doing the same thing. Weve always both democrat and republican, jim, have run it down to the wire. And then it will go on these Continuing Resolution<\/a>s. It will go if we approve it a spending gap, a spending amount, either 30 days or we get it through christmas, and then say oh, were going to have to go to the same spending levels, but much higher, as weve always done. And were not doing that. Yeah. So you got a government that sure shut the businesses down. They sure shut the School Children<\/a> out of schools. And its time we get a handle on it. And were going to do it. Well, let me ask you this. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> had some choice words for members of your conference, republican conference, its own party. Lets listen to what he told reporters on thursday. Its frustrating in the sense that i dont understand why anybody votes against bringing the idea and having the debate. And then youve got all the amendments if you dont like the bill. This is a whole new concept of individuals that just want to burn the whole place down. That doesnt work. Congressman, the speaker there saying there are members of your conference who want to burn the whole place down. Are you one of those members who wants to burn the whole place down . It sounds like he is calling you an arsonist. No. Look, its not about Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>. Kevin should have had us working in july and august to come up with an agreement on the Spending Bill<\/a>s. And he had agreed in january to do that, to get us on a downward spending trajectory. He just hasnt done that. He has been in congress 17 years. Now, you know, we either are going toe face a reality, and he calls frustrated with us. The American People<\/a> are frustrated with the way government has not worked and the way government politicians have spent their money. How can you and other Freedom Caucus<\/a> members drive this hard line here . How can others in your Caucus Demand<\/a> that you have this position that everybody has to go along with when you dont have the numbers . Well, we passed a dod bill out, and it didnt have the numbers. Look, its all about the, again, economic security. And anybody that doesnt see whats going on at the border and doesnt know that this country is were at a tipping point. And we either handle it or we dont. But Government Employees<\/a> wont be getting paychecks. Members of the military wont be getting paychecks. Members of the Border Patrol<\/a> down on the border wont be getting paychecks. Youre comfortable with that . Thats not right. Theyre going to get paid back pay. Whenever we open back up, and we will open back up. Look, jim, the sun is going to still shine. The ocean but thats real pain that theyre going to be going through. Are you going to get paid . Yes, Congress Gets<\/a> paid. I didnt write the constitution. Im not that old. But what ill tell you this is americans living paycheck to paycheck. Simply, you can agree or disagree with it a lot of the members of the military are living paycheck to paycheck. If theyre not getting paid, you say theyre going to get back pay. If theyre living paycheck to paycheck, that doesnt sound too good for members of the military, members of the Border Patrol<\/a> . , no its not. No, its not. But you mentioned Border Patrol<\/a>. Theyre so frustrated with what this administration is doing, to let everybody in, everybody in this country. Its just not right. And were on tap to have 15 million illegals in this country as we how is that working out in new york . Its not. And so were tying the Border Security<\/a> now to Homeland Security<\/a>. Were going to do that on every appropriations bill to get a number, and well see where it goes. Everybody listening to this show ought to call their senator, because thats whoo were going to put it back on. And thank god, finally, schumer is getting booed. Aoc is getting booed. The American Public<\/a> knows whats going on. Are you going to take responsibility for this . We were talking to john bolton, the former National Security<\/a> adviser in a previous hour on this program who said typically when the government shuts down, republicans get blamed for it. Isnt thats whats going to happen this time around . Are you prepared to shoulder that blame . Look, this isnt about blame. This is about doing whats right for the country. And were trying to do that. It isnt business as usual. And the fact that americans live pay to paycheck because of this bidenomics, you know the one family its working for . Joe biden and his family. No one else its working for. The 330 million americans dont deserve it. All im saying is lets live like every business and every family does. Look at your spending and try to agree on it and know this will be the senates responsibility and the democrats who have caused this crisis. And it shouldnt be at this point in the history of this country. But how can you accuse democrats of causing this crisis when youre the ones who are going to shut down the government . Youre saying youre going to do it. Thats you. The last three and a half years, weve had an invasion. Hes opened it up. And guess what . I suspected this. Its for Keeping Democrats<\/a> in office. He is giving jim, get this. He is giving Social Security<\/a> and drivers licenses to illegal aliens. Are you trying to say there is an invasion of migrants in this country and the democrats are doing this to get elected . Is that what youre saying . Thats just not true. No, it is true. Look it up. He has given Social Security<\/a> numbers and drivers licenses. He has done it in new york. What do you call that . What else can you call that . Give me a term for it. Sir, that is something that i mean, it sound like what youre doing when you say that is demonizing immigrants, when you say theyre coming into this country as some part of invasion to change the political calculus in this country. Thats not the case. There are lots of people who come into this country as immigrants and end up voting republican. Coming into this country legally. They come into this country legally. You term it however you want. They come in legally. Never before have we opened our borders up to every country all across the globe. And were going to stop it, one way or another. How you going to lock down the border, have better Border Protection<\/a> if you shut down the government. I guess i dont understand that. That doesnt make any sense. Well, what does make sense and were going to have to force the public is going to have to force this Biden Administration<\/a> to let the Border Patrol<\/a> agents do their job, to get the wall built, have designated points of entry. And this administration is not doing it. Theyre doing it intentionally. And whether you agree with it or not, theyre doing it for power. Why are they giving Social Security<\/a> numbers and drivers licenses why are you saying that . Intentionally doing what . Where is your evidence of this . Where is your proof of this . It just sounds like youre throwing rhetoric around with no basis in fact. Have you been to the border . Of course i have. Have you seen whats going on, the rapes, its open. Nobody can deny that. The border is its a crisis. Ill ask the questions, sir. And the border is not open. That is something that is peddled as a talk point, but its not true. There are fences. There are walls. There are Border Patrol<\/a> agents who work on the border. The five plus million that have gotten into this country illegally is not a figment of our imagination. Ask the Border Patrol<\/a> agents. Ask anybody down there. Theyre frustrated. You have not been able to answer my question as to how you effectively do Border Enforcement<\/a> if youre shutting down the government. But i guess were not going to get an answer to that question. Right . I mean, if you shut down the government, saturday rolls around, youre going to have Border Patrol<\/a> agents who are going to be without pay. How are they going to want to go out there and do Border Patrol<\/a> enforcement if theyre not getting paid . It sounds like an effective way of running the government. Well, whats ineffective is this president doing what he is doing to america, and it shouldnt happen. Your own speaker says you want to burn the whole place down. I disagree with that. Hes we should, again, im not going to repeat it. You can say all you want, the border is closed and the border is an orderly people are being processed. Theyre not. He has created a National Security<\/a> problem. When you have pilots telling me that as when i was down there, the pilots, the people you remember donald trump said he was going to build a wall down on the border, and it didnt happen. He said mexico was going the pay for it, and it didnt happen. Jim, look, those are your talking points. He did build a wall. He couldnt finish it because joe biden stopped him when he unfortunately went into office. And steel is laying on the ground, paying subcontractors. Its a National Security<\/a> problem. Youre, you know congressman cnn should report whats going on. We are down there at the border all the time reporting on whats taking it place. Were doing it every day. Congressman, thanks very much for your time. We appreciate it. Well be right back. Yes, sir. At morgan stanley, Old School Hard Work<\/a> meets bold n thinking. Partnering to unlock new ideas, to cate new legacies, to transform a company, industry, economy, generation. Because grit and vision working in lockstep puts you on the path to your full potential. Old school grit. New world ideas. Morgan stanley. If you have moderate to severe Crohns Disease<\/a> skyrizi is the first and only il23 inhibitor that can deliver clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. Serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. Liver problems may occur in Crohns Disease<\/a>. Control of crohns means everything to me. Ask your gastroenterologist about skyrizi. Control is everything to me learn how abbvie could help you save. [its the final game, folks. This one wins the series. ] struck out with the cheap seats . Important things arent worth compromising. At farmers, we offer both Quality Insurance<\/a> and great savings. crowd cheers here, take mine. Farmers Mnemonic<\/a> oh what a good time we will have you can make it happen yeah oh now, try new Dietary Supplements<\/a> from voltaren for healthy joints. With the freestyle libre 2 system, know your Glucose Level<\/a> and where its headed. No fingersticks needed. Manage your diabetes with more confidence. Freestyle libre 2. Try it for free at freestylelibre. Us choosing a treatment for your chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more can be overwhelming. So, ask your doctor about botox\u00ae. Botox\u00ae prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. Its the 1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. So far, more than 5 million botox\u00ae treatments have been given to over Eight Hundred And Fifty Thousand<\/a> chronic migraine patients. Effects of botox\u00ae may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or Muscle Weakness<\/a> can be signs of a lifethreatening condition. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Dont receive botox\u00ae if theres a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. In a survey, 92 of current users said they wish theyd talked to their doctor and started botox\u00ae sooner. So, ask your doctor if botox\u00ae is right for you. Learn how abbvie could help you save on botox\u00ae. New dove men bodywash gives you 24 hours of nourishing micromoisture. That means your skin still feels healthy and smooth now. Now. And now too. Get healthier, smoother feeling skin all day. Did we just get hustled . Theres no way they were 70. Interesting. Hm . Its both an electric and a gas car. Yeap. Quite the paradox. Hmmmm . Hmmmm . Hmm . Hmmmm . So jjs for lunch . The first ever lexus rx plugin hybrid. Electric for short trips. Gas for long. It really is both. Its just after 7 00 p. M. Here in washington, but all eyes are on midnight, saturday. Lawmakers have just six days now to pass a Spending Bill<\/a> to fund the government and prevent a shutdown. Joining us now with the democratic Point Of View<\/a> is congressman Brendan Boyle<\/a> of pennsylvania. Congressman, thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. Youre the ranking democrat on the house Budget Committee<\/a>. Were just talking to one of your republican colleagues a few moments ago, ralph norman of south carolina. When i asked him are we heading towards a shutdown, he simply said yes. Is that your sense of it as well . If we have a Government Shutdown<\/a>, which im sad to say at this point looks likely, it will be because there are a couple dozen republican members at least who want a Government Shutdown<\/a>. And have i the quotes. I have cited them before in Budget Committee<\/a> hearings, various House Republicans<\/a> have outright said they want a Government Shutdown<\/a>. They think it would be a good thing. And Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>, let me say, he was actually honest over this weekend when he admitted that he has several members who in his own words want to burn the place down. So the problem with this republican civil war is, as long as theyre in the majority in the house of representatives, all of us are being held hostage, as well as the American People<\/a> by the republican chaos and confusion. And what can you do as democrats at this point . Because we talked to Congressman Molinaro<\/a> of new york in the previous hours. He was trying to say well, were trying to work inside the republican conference, is what he was saying and not necessarily work with democrats just yet. If we get to the 11th hour, is it possibly the case that well see a scenario where republicans, democrats try to put some kind of Continuing Resolution<\/a> together to avoid this shutdown . Is that a scenario that might emerge . That is the scenario that im most hopeful for. We have all 213 House Democrats<\/a>. So we just need five House Republicans<\/a>. And i know there are more than five who come election time in their districts always like to call themselves moderate and independent. Well, here is a chance for them to prove it. Join with the House Democrats<\/a>. Lets pass a 30 to 60day Continuing Resolution<\/a>. Lets make sure its not loaded up, there isnt anything in there that tilts one side or the other. It just would give us more time and ensure that we dont suffer the damage of a shutdown because the previous guest who was on couldnt cite these details, the reality is with every previous Government Shutdown<\/a>, nonpartisan analysis has shown we lose billions and billions of dollars in terms of productivity to the economy. Congressional Budget Office<\/a> said the last Government Shutdown<\/a> led to 120,000 fewer jobs as a result of that shutdown. So there is a real cost to shutdowns. We can prevent it if theyre just willing to join us and actually strike out in a bipartisan way. And one of the things that congressman norman was saying a few moments ago when we talked to him, he is essentially saying that unless the members of the house and i suppose the members of the senate acquiesce to their demands in the House Freedom<\/a> caucus, when it comes to what they want to see down at the border, that theyre just not going to be on board with getting any kind of Spending Bill<\/a> through the congress. Without those members of the House Freedom<\/a> caucus, can you get it done . So the only way to get it done is exactly what we did in june, jim, if you remember to raise the debt ceiling that was the one and only time Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> was willing to stand up to his Freedom Caucus<\/a> members and work with the democratic president , the democratic senate, as well as Democratic House<\/a> members. And look at the result. The bill that passed in june to raise the debt ceiling . 80 of House Democrats<\/a> and 67 of House Republicans<\/a> voted for that legislation. So we know its not a hypothetical, that if there is willingness on the leadership on the other side to strike a fair compromise, its there for the taking. The challenges that Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> is still not willing begin to stand up to his Freedom Caucus<\/a> members. Do. You think his speakership is in trouble at the end of this week . Well, i do fear that, frankly, it does seem as if Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> is more concerned with his own job rather than the over 100,000 lost jobs that would take place to the nation if we were to have a Government Shutdown<\/a>. I hope and would urge him to recognize that constantly attempting to appease and bend over backwards to his own most extreme members is a losing proposition. Because, frankly, they never take yes for an answer. Theyre always no because i get to where exactly where i began. They actually want a government sh shutdown. That is the reason why for that crowd they never get to yes. While have i you have, to ask about bob menendez, the democratic senator to the state next door to you in new jersey. He is facing these growing calls to resign as he faces federal bribery charges. Menendez is essentially saying at this point, he is standing firm. He is not stepping down. Do you think he should step down . No. I think its very simple, and only bob menendez can answer this question. If he is innocent, he should stay and fight the charges and explain publicly why the evidence that has been presented, at least according to Media Reports<\/a> i read, because i have not read the indictment. Ive been dealing with budget issues. But he should address them publicly. And if he believes in his innocence and is innocent, then i think he should stay and fight it. He is entitled to due process. Now of course, if he actually did that to which hes been accused of, then obviously the answer to that would be no. And if the governor of new jersey is saying he should step down, youre just not there yet . Yeah, you know, and i recognize that im probably on the unpopular side of this, jim. But i am increasingly concerned over the last five or seven years there has been a tendency in a number of various kind of cases that any time an accusation comes in, the person is immediately forced out, whether its an industry or an office. And im kind of an oldfashioned civil libertarian, an oldfashioned liberal in the sense that i believe in due process that he deserves his day in court. If the evidence against him is as it has been presented in the indictment, and its pretty clear what the end result will be in this case. But that said, he is entitled to that due process. Every citizen is as well, even if frankly its probably not the most popular thing to say. All right. 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He is in breach of this promise. So im not here to hold the government hostage. Im here to hold Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> to his word. If Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> ultimately allows a deal to pass without democratic votes, would you support ousting him from the speakers chair . That would be something i would look strongly at, maam. If we do away with our duty that we said were going to do. And joining us with more on all of this is molly jongfast, a vanity fair Special Correspondent<\/a> and cnn Political Comme<\/a> commentator scott jennings. Great to see both of you. We were just speaking with congressman ralph norman, and Brendan Boyle<\/a>, how Budget Committee<\/a>. Theyre both in agreement it sounds as were heading towards a shutdown. Yeah, it seems that way. Although i would say over the course of the last year, mccarthy has on occasion pulled a rabbit out of a hat. But there are a handful of these republicans that have no strategy, no real end game in mind, and frankly, i think they think part of their constituency wants a shutdown. Like theyre catering to a small group of people who think its a good idea to shut down the government. There is no leverage in that. There never has been any time these shutdowns occur. Youre going to see the Republican Party<\/a> get blamed. Its kind of shocking to me at a time when you look at all the polling, the republicans seem to have the democrats on the ropes a little bit, biden on the ropes, the American People<\/a> are deeply skeptical of the democratic policies that were going to selfemulate over this shutdown when its totally unnecessary. Molly, if youre the democrats right now, what do you do . Just sit back and let them do this, i guess . Yeah, sit back. I mean, im shocked to agree with scott jennings. Im just shocked. But, yeah. I mean, matt gaetz has no plan, right. He doesnt have some other speaker waiting in the wings. And i do think that a lot of these people, this maga caucus thinks that anything the government does is bad. So they should try to destroy the federal government. Which is ironic because that is where they are employed. Well, lets talk about some of the polls that scott just mentioned. There are these wildly divergent polls out today. One from abc Washington Post<\/a>. The other from nbc. One of them has trump up by 10 points, the abc Washington Post<\/a> poll. But the post itself said, scott, this may be an outlier. And one of the questions to both of you, should we even be Publishing Polls<\/a> that were not completely confident in . If this issin inan outlier, why it out there . Something about the way theyre doing it is producing a result here. The nbc poll that came out that had a tied race also had some blinking red lights for biden. I think in that survey, if you look under the hood, more americans actually were worried about bidens age than were worried about Donald Trumps<\/a> indictments. So there are things going on in both surveys that ought to be of some concern for the white house. And of course, there are things going on in these surveys that ought to be of concern for republicans. If you look at just how bad a shape joe biden is in, republicans ought to be beating him. And donald trump gets to tie in the averages and ahead in one survey. I dont think either one of them are going to win this race by ten points. But there is warning signs for everybody in all these. And of course, we dont have a national election. We have elections in individual states. Molly, that is that brings up a good point. And feel free to go off on any tangent you want. I know you dont love these national polls. I know weve talked about this on previous programs. But we just had this New Hampshire<\/a> poll that came out a couple of days ago that showed biden well out in front of donald trump. And that is what a lot of democrats have been saying. We dont have national determinations as to who the president is going to be. Its going to be state by state. Yeah. First of all, national poll, 400 plus Daying Outside<\/a> of the election, you know, we saw i mean, we saw polling up until almost the very end where Hillary Clinton<\/a> was in 90 chance of winning. But i think polls have only gotten less accurate since there. And weve seen that again and again. Rabie the red wave that was supposed to happen in the midterms. But i just want to come become to earth, one, for a second, and remind our viewers that donald trump has four indictments and a superseding indictment. He has been impeached twice and ran an armed insurrection. Joe biden is three years older than he is. So i understand that there is a desire on the part of republicans to make the False Equivalency<\/a> that being three years older than donald trump is the same or worse than being, you know, twice impeached, four times indicted. But i dont think those two things are the same. And i really do believe that a swing voter in michigan is not going to go and vote for someone who says i am your redemption, i am your, you know you must come follow me so that we can, you know, make it right for my impeachments. I just dont think thats a winning message. But i will just say as a counterargument on that that if you are one of these swing voters in michigan, and maybe you dont love everything that donald trump has done. Say on january 6th or since the election, to show him right now tied or aahead of joe biden in any survey shows the absolute deep anxiety and anger that exists among those swing voters over the economy. So my view is until the Biden White House<\/a> figures out how to solve their economic messaging issues, and mostly around inflation, they are going to continue to struggle in these national surveys. Molly, the president is going i would yeah, i would agree that for sure inflation is a major problem, and no one likes paying more for things. There is no question. And there is certainly economic messaging issues in the administration. But i do think that we are looking at polling that is just these are very small numbers. But theyre also this is not how we communicate anymore. Ive been interviewing posters all the time on my podcast. How have you changed your methodology . A lot of times unless its these very high quality polling where they follow the person, its still very kind of they have not kept up with the times. Yeah. All right. Well, well have to see what the next round of polls show. But so far, if we did a poll on the polls. I dont know how well the polls would do. Thats just my sense of it. All right. Molly jongfast, scott jennings, thanks, guys. I appreciate it. The feud between former President Trump<\/a> and soon to be former joint chiefs of Staffs Mark Milley<\/a> reaching an alarming point with trump making some outrageous statements about the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs. Well talk about that nenext i cnn newsroom. When i was diagnosed with hiv, i didnt know who i would be. But here i am. Being me. Keep being you. And ask your heahcare provider about the number one prescribed hiv treatment, biktarvy. Biktarvys a complete, onepill, onceadat used for hiv in many people whether youre 18 or 80. With one small pill, biktarvy fights hiv to help you get to undetectable and stay there whether youre just starting or replacing your current treatment. Research shows that taking hiv treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting hiv through sex. 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And joining us now to talk about this is retired Lieutenant General<\/a> mark hertling. Great to talk to you as always. Typically we talk about whats taking place in ukraine and on the battlefield and so on. But i really wanted to talk to you about these escalating attacks, this dangerous rhetoric thats being directed at members of the military, and specifically about the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Your reaction. Yeah, a different sort of battlefield, isnt it, jim. Yeah. This proposed violence by any political figure is disgusting. It shows how deeply disturbed both of these individuals are, and both of their rants, not just the tweet you showed from representative gosar, but his delivered statement to the press was sexist, racist, vile, and it just shows the extent to which these kinds of things have become commonplace, and not condemned in our divided country. Its not the first time for either one of these individuals. Gosar in 2021 was censured from the house and removed from his committee because he threatened, or he posted a video of him killing alexandria ocasiocortez and attacking president biden. It continues, and it really needs to be stopped, jim. This is just serious business, and im condemning it, if no one else does. Well, its totally condemnable. Were not even going to put on screen what he said because its so disgusting and vile. But i wonder how unusual this is to have these kinds of attacks being directed at the chairman of the joint chiefs. Obviously there may be times at one point or another where you may disagree with how the chairman conducted himself. Obviously took a lot of criticism for what took place at Lafayette Square<\/a> park outside the white house. After george floyd. But, you know, to take to it this level, it just seems dangerous, especially in this climate. Well, and it also shows how neither one of these individuals, excuse me, actually understands the job that the chairman executes. He is the senior military adviser. Hes not a commander of forces. Hes the guy that provides advice to the secretary of defense and the president , and he also coordinates and oversees Automatic The Combatant<\/a> commanders. Throwing the blame on him for all sorts of things that have occurred in government just seems to be malicious and certainly as i said before, vile. And it shows just how deeply disturbed both of these individuals are and how they are disconnected from the role of government officials. And even if they did know what general milleys jobs were and what his performance requirements were, still doing this in a public forum to threaten to either hang or shoot them for being a traitor, its just bizarre, jim. And somewhat ridiculous, and a little bit sick. And help us out a little bit in terms of why general milley was doing what he was doing around the time between the election and the inauguration of president biden. One of the things that has rankled People Inside Trump World<\/a> was that general milley was calling some of his foreign counterparts and trying to reassure them Around The World<\/a> that the United States<\/a> government was okay and that we werent going to launch any kind of bizarre out november where military attacks. He was essentially trying to keep a lid on things, isnt that right . Yeah, he was. And in many of the articles that have appeared lately, that has been extended conversation about all those actions have been written about. And truthfully, jim, as a former Senior General<\/a> in the army, you do things that are called engagements with your counterparts, with your peers in other countries. You try and actually contribute to the diplomacy of the United States<\/a> by talking to your military colleagues and cohorts in other countries. Thats what general millie was doing. And when you talk about the kind of engagements he has to make Around The World<\/a>, by last count, i think the United States<\/a> engages with about 192 different countries. So millie is trying during his term of office to become familiar with those generals to kind of assuage them when things are happening on the diplomatic or the political front to tell them whats going on, and to assure them, as well as deter them from doing things that counter to the United States<\/a>. He also assures them so that they dont get on a trigger stance and start doing things that would lead to unfortunate conflict or even war. Thats happened before when there has been a lack of misunderstanding between military forces. Absolutely. Well, we appreciate it as always. Well talk tlk ukraine next tim. 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They want their demands met and that is in terms of resij euless, in terms of payments and wages and also in terms of Artificial Intelligence<\/a> and a lot of the writers say theyll keep on essentially not working for as long as it takes because they want those demands to be met. There were many striking or on the picket lines today. Here is what one of those writers had to say. I think until you hear it from the wga you have to take all that with a grain of salt. We are trying to save writers ability to pay their rent, pay for a mortgage, put kids through school, save for a rainy day. Reporter if there is a deal the members will have to ratify this deal but furthermore actors also are on strike and dont have a deal so it is going to take some time to get things back to normal here, jim. All right. Keep us posted. Thanks a lot and appreciate it. Also tonight a new era for kansas city. Taylor swift was spotted this afternoon at the chiefs game against the chicago bears. 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Next on Anderson Cooper<\/a> he takes us across the country to meet the believers, their frustrated families, and the mother of their qanon leader. Reporter for a time michael was sleeping in his car. He had lost his family, he had lost his business, but then he found telegram. I remember him telling his friend im on telegram and all of a sudden i have these followers. Hed been trying to convince us that he was right for years and these people said, youre right. Happy birthday dear michael like they say, if your family isnt with you, make your own family. I am jesus christ 174 donie joins us now. This is very disturbing stuff. Lets dive right in this. Why did his mom decide to sit down with you for an interview . Reporter the man you saw in the video is michael, running this group some called a cult. Qanon type o offsmoot where basically they believe jfk jr. And possibly jfk is still alive and are going to come back and work with trump somehow to save america. Obviously it is up next. Hopefully people stick around to watch it. I think really what we wanted to do with this documentary was get beyond the craziness of this conspiracy theory. It is irrational. There is point in trying to Ration Allize<\/a> these beliefs and look at the effect this is having on American Families<\/a> even in the case of this socalled cult leader i guess. We spoke to his own mom who was kind enough to share her story and tell us how michael himself before kind of sucking people in kind of got sucked into the rabbit hole himself. Look, jim, you and i know this very well. This might look fringe. It is obviously a bit crazy but at the same time the election lies that are being pushed by people in very senior positions in government and the Republican Party<\/a> and what not that all really feeds into this stuff because that whole qanon environment kind of goes hand in hand. It is very dangerous and well be watching in the next couple seconds. Great to see you. Thanks very much. 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