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Are go for the birth possible thing i can thousands of pieces of debris i wish i couldve done something differently. What i can undo that, you can just make it better, are those that fall hello. Space shuttle columbia, the final flight, two part finale, Sunday At Nine On Cnn you relied with the cnn newsroom. Im jim acosta in washington. Good morning. We begin with the latest demand from former President Donald Trump to House Republicans, quote, killed oh fisa, fbi director Christopher Wray is expected to deliver a sobering response to trumps decree. This is no time to mess around with the law known as fisa, the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. Amid the turmoil in the middle east to add, following an isis attack in russia that could inspire acts of terrorism here on us soil, the law allows us to collect the communications of nonamericans overseas. Its up for reauthorization as its due to expire next week. But the continuing chaos up on capitol hill in the house may doom it. 19 conservative House Republicans have killed the latest effort to reauthorize it, defying House Speaker mike johnson and obeying can trump his Marching Orders on truth, social quote, kill fisa. It was illegally used against me and many others. They spied on my campaign and quote that is false, of course well talk about that just a moment. But in the meantime, cnns lauren fox is up on capitol hill for us. Lauren does this create more headaches for House Speaker mike johnson . Sorry, i think i know the answer to that. And does this episode raised the question, whos in charge up on capitol hill . Yeah, if its a day that ends and why theres some chaos happening, especially in the House Of Representatives, gym and you are highlighting one of the biggest issues for my johnson right now, which is this slim majority that he has, which means every single vote, even the procedural ones like we saw yesterday on the house floor are very difficult to get across the finish line. Now, there were 19 republicans who voted against advancing this legislation yesterday. It wasnt just one or two. It wasnt just a matter of twisting one or two arms. It is very clearly the a problem within his conference. Now, we are getting new reporting this morning that mike johnson is optimistic that they can go back to the House Rules Committee try to rework this Process Restructuring in order to quell some of the conservative concerns that we saw demonstrated on the floor yesterday. Its still on unclear, however, whether or not that will happen today, whether that would actually resolve the issues that have been underlying since december when leaders had to pull this bill before christmas and i think that theres a lot of question right now, given the fact that there is an april 19 deadline and the senate still has to act on whatever the house does that this is potentially heading into a situation where this may not get done ahead of the deadline. Meanwhile, there are a number of republicans who are deeply frustrated with the amount of tamul did they are seeing within their ranks, including representative troy nehls . Periods all you have to do this, say weve got seven more months to the president ial election. Thats trying to complete and to dan place down bernie place. Now, lets just get down to trump. Whats it . Thats what we should focus. Thats my or dysfunction we are its come somewhat embarrassing to make bite us in the butt a little bit november. But my focus is donald j. Trump now because we cant, nobody can manage his conference the lord jesus himself could not manage his gun and Speaker Mike Johnson is expected to head to maralago tomorrow to meet with donald trump he obviously has a hold on the Republican Party now, he did have that post on truth, social yesterday, and certainly people like matt gaetz who were already planning to vote against the rule, said that that was a major boost for them, but we should note that this has been a Division Within the Republican Party for months, for years. This division in between those who want to protect the Us Intelligence capabilities and those who are more concerned about the surveillance of americans. But obviously donald trump and mike johnson going to have a lot to talk about tomorrow. All right. Lauren fox. Thank you very much. And lets bring an andrew mccabe. Hes cnn senior Law Enforcement analyst was Deputy Director of the fbi andrew. Thank you so much for being with us. Lets cut through some of the noise on this. What are the consequences of this law being killed as trump would like to see it . Yeah. So lets understand exactly what were talking about here, jim, because what youre hearing on the hill and from donald trump is really confusing the issue. So fisa is a big law. It has a lot of different sections. Part of it is used against people here in the United States, you go to the court for a warrant enabled to you to do electronic surveillance. Thats not what were talking about. Section 702 is only used to capture the communications when people meet three criteria, you have to do that foreign person in a Foreign Place and the purpose of the collection has to be to get foreign intelligence. It is our primary vision into what tariff protests and spies and people who use weapons of mass destruction. And nationstates that use cyber tools against us. What theyre doing overseas. It is an incredibly valuable tool, but what makes it different from regular fisa is there are no warrants. And the reason for that is you dont have to go to court and get a warrant because people, foreign people in Foreign Places are not protected by our constitution or our fourth amendment. So thats what makes it different. Thats the thing thats expiring on the 19th. And is absolutely essential that we get it renewed. Its used to stop Terrorist Attacks full stop. I mean, thats the purpose of the law. And lets go back to trumps post on truth, social andrew, hes calling on House Republicans to block reauthorize it saying, quote, kill fisa, it was used illegally against my campaign. They spied on my Campaign End Quote is there any truth to this . I know were kind of back over is relatively speaking, some ancient history. And one of the trumps old complaints, or dating back to the 2016 campaign yeah so to be clear, no, there is no truth or accuracy in that post at all seven and to authorities were never used in the course of that investigation of donald trump and his campaign and some of his Campaign Associates he may be referring to the file isar that was used that is obtained to Surveil Carter page. There. We now know there were many mistakes in that fisa. Those are all regrettable, but that is not section 702. Totally different thing here. My guess, jim, is that its not surprising that donald trump is against Surveillance Capacity and authority for the fbi because he is someone who has been investigated by the fbi but nevertheless, he is absolutely wrong on this count. But when youre commander in chief and you have access to the president ial daily brief. For example, youre you have access to classified information. We will go down that road. Thats a different kind of for over donald trump. But you are aware of what this capability does in terms of intelligence information to make sure acts of terrorism are stopped before they happen on us soil. And andrew, i mean, i do want to ask you about this former Attorney General bill barr spoke to cnn about this and bar was ripping trump for pressuring republicans to block reauthorize it. Lets listen to this, talk about in the assign with the greatest shred to the homeland from Terrorist Attack. And our primary means defending against that. As far as and take that tool away. I think is going to result in successful Terrorist Attack and the loss of life is that possible . Andrew it is absolutely possible. The former Attorney General is exactly right here. And youre right, jim, some anyone who has been a consumer of the intelligence that section 702 provides us and that of course would include former President Trump should to understand the significance of that. And then lets overlay on the time that were talking about right now israel is at war with hamas. Hamas we know has a presence here in the United States. The idea that we would turn off the prime vision, the prime insight that we have into terrorists who are overseas terrorists like hamas terrorists, who may in fact be talking to people in the United States and planning activities here we dont know that, but its certainly top priority for the fbi right now. The idea that we would turn off that flow of information, which is entirely lawful and has survived every Court Challenge is just astounding to me, there is no one in the community and the Intelligence Community who would support such a thing. All right, enter the cave, but thank you very much for the straight talk. Are always appreciate it. All right. Lets discuss born out with democratic congressman Eric Swalwell of california is on the house judiciary and Homeland Security committees congressman. Thanks for being here. I mean, we were showing this a few moments ago, trump encouraging House Republicans to kill fisa. And just hours later they blocked its reauthorization over the objections of the House Speaker mike johnson. Johnson the speakers is sounding is though perhaps they can, they can resurrect this, but it sounds like donald trump is the real speaker of the house right now. Jim, when it comes to your safety, the safety of your viewers as far as donald trump is concerned, its just me, me, me. And so for speaker johnson, who has signed up to essentially run a law firm that represents solid trump every day in congress. That means standing with trump when it comes to National Security means standing with terrorists. And were not going to renew this ability to track terrace standing with donald trump as it relates to ukraine means standing with putin and standing with donald trump as it relates to the border means standing with chaos and disorder. Thats just where he takes you. Hes not interested in governing. Hes not interested in solving any problem in your life. Hes just interested in solving his own problems and hes now completely wrapped up. The House Of Representatives in that. And its going to have real consequences. And the speaker is in a tough spot and i think a reflection of that as seen as reporting that johnson will travel down to maralago. He will appear alongside trump at what theyre calling an election, Integrity Event whats your reaction to that . What did you think when you saw that . Well, im happy that theyre celebrating the most secure election ever, the 2020 election. But im afraid thats probably not what theyre doing. Theyre going to seek to further undermine it. And johnsons budget by the way, has always proposed at the behest of donald trump to make us less able to track foreign disinformation that way but most likely benefit Donald Trumps. So theres no Election Integrity coming out of maralago. Theres only Survival Mode because donald trump has a crescendo of court cases that are finally reaching the peak of accountability. And so hes just looking at how he can win an election by any means necessary. So he can avoid accountability. Thats what this is about and i mean, johnsons speakership, as you know, is being threatened by the likes of congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene. She says she will bring a motion to vacate to the house floor if he delivers some form of funding for the war in ukraine i talked to one of your colleagues congressman krishnamoorthi. He said he would support johnson during another possible rightwing revolt if he delivers aid to ukraine i mean, this is a tough nut to crack what, how do you make Heads Or Tails have what would you do in that . Circumstances that comes to pass. Yeah. So im going to support, you know, whatever helps a Hakeem Jeffries become speaker or function as speaker. Because essentially if you look at paying our bills to lift the debt ceiling, keeping the government open, crisis after crisis Hakeem Jeffries has delivered more votes than the republicans and never in the history of any Parliament Certain certainly in our congress have you seen the Minority Party provide the majority of votes on anything of consequence . So am i open to it . Yes. We have to keep the government open. We have to fund ukraine. We need security at the border but im going to work with our leadership to make sure that our priorities, which are the american peoples priorities, as we put people over politics, are achieved here if you dont mind me asking a followup, congressman, does that mean that in the circumstance where johnsons speakership maybe going down in flames, that you might be of the mindset that perhaps that should go ahead and happen in the possibility that may come to pass that speaker jeffries, that Hakeem Jeffries could become the speaker of the house. Thats a scenario that might actually emerge hes the functioning speaker. He may be the actual speaker. And as i said, we are showing that we want to govern will provide competence in the chaos and so was i stand ready to do that . Im open to whatever delivers as i said, for the people over this crazy politics that donald trump and maga, mike johnson and his gang keep bringing us all right. Congressman Eric Swalwell. Thank you very much for your time this morning. Really appreciate it. Thanks, jen. All right. Is still to come chaos in Arizona Republicans in. The state block of to repeal an abortion law from 18 64 before arizona was even a state. Ill speak to the head of Planned Parenthood arizona. Thats next theres debris and this guy, parents, husbands and wives, sky i wish i couldve done something different. You can just make it better for those that follow Space Shuttle columbia, the final flight, two part finale, Sunday At Nine On Cnn bought the tape. 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