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CNNW CNN Newsroom January 23, 2013

Romney has become the latest addition to the banks museum of president ial candidates who ran, but lost. That does it for me. Brooke baldwin takes it away from here. Brooke . An ambassador and three other americans killed after a breakdown in security. At this moment, Hillary Clinton comes face to face with lawmakers who want to know why. Im Brooke Baldwin. The news is now. New word of warnings that the u. S. Consulate in benghazi was not safe, and they come from one of the americans killed. Plus i put my arms around the mother and fathers, the sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters and the wives left alone to raise their children. What today means for Hillary Clintons legacy. Welcome our viewers in the United States and all around the world. Im Brooke Baldwin at the cnn World Headquarters in atlanta. And im jake tapper in washington. Any minute inside this room on capitol hill testimony, four months in the making, secretary of state Hillary Clinton will testify before the House Foreign Affairs committee about what happened on september 11th of last year, the day when these four americans, ambassador Chris Stevens, shawn smith, tyrone woods and glen doherty were killed at the u. S. Mission in benghazi, libya. Jake, i want to bring you back in and bring in our chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash so we can have this whole conversation as were watching and awaiting the secretary of state there to testify before the House Foreign Affairs committee. And, dana bash, do we have you seated . I am, hi, brooke. Nice to see you. As we await what will possibly be a little bit more fiery, right, questioning from members of the house as opposed to what we saw with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee earlier this morning, first, just give me a little bit of a preview, what are you hearing, what are you expecting to come from this, this afternoon . Reporter were probably going to hear very similar lines of questioning that we heard, especially from republicans in this senate. It got maybe a little bit more fiery, a little more intense in the senate than we would have anticipated. We do anticipate that kind of atmosphere in the house, which is kind of the way the house tends to be, the house is run by republicans. And even the House Republican chair anticipated it to be that kind of atmosphere because i was told that he mentioned to republicans on the committee that he wants to make sure that they are respectful. There is widespread respect for Hillary Clinton on capitol hill, republicans and democrats, it goes without saying, but there are still tends to be some showmanship at the hearings. Youre shocked by that, brooke. Not at all. Reporter and the chairman understands from the newer members that want to make names for themselves. I want to bring in bob bear, he spent two decades as a field officer. Bob, are you there . All right, were waiting for bob. Dana, based on the Senate Hearing this morning, what most surprised you in the 2 1 2 hours of testimony we heard this morning . Reporter what most surprised me was probably what surprised a lot of people, who watched Hillary Clinton for decades like we have, that is the way she got so emotional. This is a woman who has been through more than any human being in the public eye, going back to the impeachment trial, monica lewinsky, failed attempt at the presidency in 2008, but this is something that really strikes her at her heart. She felt responsibility for Chris Stevens who was a close friend, clearly somebody she thought was amazing at his job. And it was really, really difficult for her to get through this. The same kind of reaction were seeing from john mccain because he also is close with Chris Stevens but hes handling it in a very different kind of way because hes he wants hes the question asker and Hillary Clinton is the person who just, you know, again, bears that responsibility. It is clearly weighing very heavily on her. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton has taken her seat before the House Foreign Affairs committee. But we do now have bob bear, the former middle east field officer with us. I wanted to ask you, when do you make of the fact that it has been almost four months, actually over four months and we still dont have anybody in custody responsible for the attack in benghazi. Is this a failure of intelligence gathering, a failure of the government in libya to cooperate . What are you hearing . Well, i think it falls on the shoulders of the libyans to find these people. Libya is a chaotic country right now. The attack on algeria, libya played some part not at the state, but groups in libya. It is hard to find people when there is no central authority. And also for american intelligence, it is fairly new it is a new scene. And collecting data takes years on this, im not surprised at all. What worries me is the libyans seem to be making no progress at all, nobody of significant in jail and havent even named anybody. It is going to be a long time before we run this to ground, whether we do or not. I dont know. Were going to hear more from bob bear in a minute and dana bash sitting here with me. The hearing has begun. Lets take a listen at this hearing right now. Below the departments most Senior Management. This seems to contrast with the recommendation of the 1990 1999 accountability on the east africa bombings which said that, quote, the secretary of state should take a personal and active role in security issues. This committee is concerned the departments most senior officials either should have known about the worsening security situation in benghazi or did know something about that security situation. Either way, either way, the point is that security requests were denied. So im not sure the board im not sure the board here saw the full picture. And if not, its report is not a complete blueprint for fixing things. The state Department Must get this right. Al qaeda and its affiliates will very likely be targeting other diplomats for years to come. Madam secretary, the committee stands ready to help. I learned this morning that you and the administration have proposed legislation to fix the review board, which the committee looks forward to considering. Todays discussion may turn to funding. But when reading the conclusions of the board, one must ask how more money would have made a difference in a bureaucracy plagued by what the board called systemic failures. After all, as the security situation in libya worsened, the state department turned away Free Security assets from the department of defense. State Department Officials have testified that funding was not an issue. More resources may have been needed in some areas, but the tragedy of benghazi was rooted in bad decisions. Finally, the benghazi perpetrators must be apprehended or they must be killed. It is troubling that tunisia recently released a key suspect. Poor libyan cooperation has hampered the fbis investigation. Success here is a matter of justice. And it is also a matter of signaling to militants that there is no place for them to hide if they attack u. S. Personnel. I will now turn to the distinguished Ranking Member, mr. Engle, for his opening remarks. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman, for holding this important meeting. I hope we can use this as an opportunity to seriously examine the steps we need to take to prevent a repeat of a tragedy in benghazi, rather than engaging in gotcha politics that make it more difficult to achieve this bipartisan goal. Madam secretary, as the new Ranking Member on the Foreign Affairs committee, let me say on behalf of the democratic members of this committee we would like to welcome you back to our committee, and were glad youre feeling better. This will likely be your final appearance before our committee, and i want to take this opportunity to let you know how much we appreciate your outstanding and tireless efforts to represent our country in the international community. I have no doubt that you will continue to serve our nation in some capacity as you have for so many years and like forward to working with you in the future. And might i add as a new yorker, i feel especially proud of the wonderful and outstanding job youve done as secretary of state. I think that when we look at the outstanding secretary of states in our history of our country, you will be right up there at the very, very top, the way youve worked, the tireless effort you had, crisscrossing the globe so many times, you have just been indispensable to all of us as americans and i just want to thank you personally on behalf of all the democrats and behalf of all americans, democrats and republicans, we really want to thank you. Mr. Chairman, the committee has no greater responsibility than making sure that the men and women of the state department and usaid and other Public Servants who work abroad are provided the security they deserve. We must do what we can to minimize the threats faced by our diplomats and aid workers, but we must also recognize that some risk is inherent in the practice of effective diplomacy. We cannot advance americas interests around the world if we isolate ourselves behind Embassy Walls or limit the deployment of our diplomats to low risk environments. Lets not learn the wrong lesson from todays hearing. The accountability review board or arb convened by secretary clinton found a number of failures that resulted from a lack of leadership in two state Department Bureaus as well as woefully inadequate local security in benghazi. Clearly mistakes were made. But lets be absolutely clear. Barack obama was not responsible for the benghazi attack any more than george w. Bush was responsible for the 9 11 attacks or Ronald Reagan was responsible for the attacks on our Marine Barracks in beirut which killed over 200 marines. And frankly whether it was called a terrorist attack or not, in the immediate aftermath as far as im concerned is irrelevant. We just have to make sure that it never happens again, so that in the future our people are protected. Thats what i want to get out of all of this. So, madam secretary, we commend you for accepting all of the arb recommendations and welcome your commitment to begin implementing them by the time you leave the department. Even before the arb submitted its conclusions, the department moved to address certain shortcomings through its increased security proposal, vast majority of the funding for this proposal would come from funds previously appropriated for lower priority programs. And i Hope Congress will move without delay to give the department the transfer authority it needs to start applying these changes. It is important to remember that security is not a one off endeavor. It is a longterm responsibility and investment and that context the members of the arb led by ambassador pickering and admiral mullen highlighted the state departments struggle to get the resources it needs. The ongoing problem has led to a culture at the department in which some senior managers appear to be more interested in conserving resources than in achieving specific goals. The arb report says, quote, the solution requires a more serious and sustained commitment from congress to support state department needs, unquote. Regrettably it is clear that congress is still failing to meet this commitment. In the most recent state Department Funding bill, approved by the House Appropriations committee, the administrations request for embassy security, construction and maintenance was cut by 112 million, and worldwide Security Protection reduced by 149 million. The senate by comparison did not cut either account. So let me again reiterate what i just said about congress responsibility. Over the past two years alone the administrations requests for Diplomatic Security funding has been slashed by more than half a billion dollars in congress. This makes it impossible for the state department to build enough new secure diplomatic facilities or improve those that already exist. The current appropriations bill for fiscal 2013 continues this negative trend. The measure reported out of the House Appropriations committee hacked funding by more than 260 million. The senate Appropriations Committee fully funded both requests. So what im saying here is that we have much work to do to ourselves, for ourselves. If we truly want to maintain a global reach, we need to make the necessary investments in safeguarding our personnel who serve in dangerous environments. Mr. Chairman, you have indicated your intention to work on a state Department Authorization bill, and i would like to work with you in a bipartisan manner to craft legislation that improves the departments ability to manage its resources and provides the funding necessary to secure our people and facilities globally. So i thank you and i look forward to the secretarys testimony. Thank you, mr. Engle. To help us understand the state departments response to the benghazi attack, we are joined today by Hillary Rodham clinton, the 67th secretary of state. She has had a long career in public service, and for the past four years secretary clinton has served as president obamas secretary of state. She will soon move on to the next chapter in her distinguished career. Madam secretary, without objection, your full statement will be made part of the record and all members here will have five days to submit statements and questions for the record. Subject to the limitations of the committee rules. Madam secretary, please begin. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. And i thank you and the Ranking Member and members of the committee, both of longstanding tenure and brandnew members. And i appreciate your patience for me to be able to come to fulfill my commitment to you, to the former chairwoman, that i would be here to discuss the attack in benghazi. I appreciate this opportunity. I will submit my full testimony for the record. I want to make just a few points. First, the terrorist attacks in benghazi that claimed the lives of four brave americans, Chris Stevens, shawn smith, tyrone woods and doherty, are part of a broader strategic challenge to the United States and our partners in north africa. I think it is important we understand the context for this challenge as we Work Together to protect our people and honor our fallen colleagues. Any clear eyed examination of this matter must begin with this sobering fact. Since 1988 there have been 19 accountability review boards, investigating attacks on american diplomats and their facilities. Since 1977, 65 american diplomatic personnel have been killed by terrorists. In addition to those who have been killed, we know what happened in tehran, with hostages being taken in 1979, our embassy and Marine Barracks bombed in beirut in 1983, Khobar Towers in saudi arabia in 1996, our embassies in east africa in 1998, consulate staff murdered in jeddah, saudi arabia in 2004, the coast attack in afghanistan in 2009 and too many others. But i also want to stress the list of attacks that were foiled, crises averted and lives saved is even longer. We should never forget that the Security Professionals get it right more than 99 of the time against difficult odds because the terrorists only need to get it right once. Thats why, like all my predecessors, i trust the Diplomatic Security professionals with my life. Lets also remember that as the chairman and the Ranking Member pointed out, administrations of both parties in partnership with congress have made concerted and good faith efforts to learn from the tragedies that have occurred to implement recommendations from the review boards to seek the necessary resources to better protect our people in a constantly evolving threat environment. In fact, mr. Chairman, of the 19 accountability review boards that have been held since 1988, only two have been made public. I want to stress that because the two that have been made public, coming out of the east Africa Embassy bombings, and this one, are attempts, honest attempts by the state department, by the secretary, secretary albright and myself, to be as transparent and open as possible. We wanted to be sure that whatever these independent nonpartisan boards found would be made available to the congress and to the American People. Because as i have said, many times since september 11th, i take responsibility and nobody is more committed to getting this right. I am determined to leave the state department and our country safer, stronger, and more secure. Now, taking responsibility meant not only moving quickly in those first uncertain hours and days to respond to the immediate crisis, but also to make sure we were protecting our people and posts in high threat areas across the region and the world. It also meant launc

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