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Airport in karachi, pakistan. We only know a few details at this point. Information, of course, is still coming in to cnn from various sources telling us that at least four military personnel have been killed. At least one of the attackers apparently dead. Our sanjay gupta in karachi right now. Give us a sense. I know this is still unfolding and qualifying it with that. What do you know at this hour . Reporter yeah. It is very much an ongoing situation, poppy. Extraordinary details coming out of this. Sounds like a very coordinated attack. These militants trying to enter the airport from three separate areas. All primarily in the cargo and vip areas cutting through barbed wire and prompted a gun fight. One you were referencing and four of the Airport Security forces killed. Commandos whose charge to guard the airport. They got involved with the gunfight. We know that the gunfight happened and grenades are used and one airplane sounds like an International Cargo airplane is on fire so theres significant damage. Now again, poppy, important to stress an ongoing situation and also this was primarily in the cargo and vip area, the commercial passengers sound like they have been in a lounge cordoned off. Theyre trying to exercise a rescue operation to escort those people out of the airport. We dont know how thats going right now and the details. We do know, obviously, all flights coming in diverted. No planes are taking off. The airport is on high alert here in karachi. Also other airports around the country and islamabad and lahor on high alert and we have heard sirens in the distance. You see smoke billowing and may see the aim nlgs ourself, poppy. Two and a half hours now the ongoing attack. And sanjay, in terms of anyone claiming responsibility, has anyone claimed any responsibility at this point in time . You said militants. Do we know more than that . Who they may be . Where they may be from . Reporter theres local reporting were working to confirm. Obviously, a lot of people are looking into that. This is an airport that you know. You have the perspective of having been there and i certainly havent many and many of the viewers havent. What can you tell us about the airport and security . By far the largest internationally and domestically in pakistan. What can you tell me about just security at this airport in general on an average day . Well, you know, this is an airport that where they worry about these sorts of things. They worry about this karachi as a whole and this is the Busiest Airport in pakistan. They had commandos, Airport Security forces. They were there. It was 11 30 at night here when it started and something that they, you know, they try to prepare for to anticipate but this type of coordinated attack, you had four commandos. As soon as they recognized what happened, four were killed. These were people who were guarding the airport. And one or two militants, these armed gunmen killed, as well. It is a just flew into this airport yesterday and familiar with this airport. This particular area it sounds like maybe a kilometer or so away from where the commercial passengers travel. This is a 24hour airport. There are commercial passengers there. There wer people taking off planes, put back into the main lounge area. Trying to figure out how to rescue the people, out of the airport right now. You had a huge military and paramilitary surge into the airport for that very purpose. To try to seal the airport and make sure no more damage is done. We dont know at this time whether some of these mill about thes are in the airport, what exactly the status is. Theres so much more to find out. Still unfolds. Viewers, sanjay, listening to the reporting looking at shots of local media there. You said theres reports of a plane, some sort of possibility cargo plane on fire and seeing something in the background and hard to tell, hard to tell exactly what that is so well let you go. Continue reporting and get back to you later in the show when you have more. Appreciate it, sanjay, live for us there in karachi. We know why the controversial prisoner swap with the taliban was done so quickly. U. S. Officials feared bergdahl may be killed. Senior official telling cnn after the deal was reached with the taliban new intelligence emerged that, quote, other taliban elements might kill him. Talking about bergdahl. We also have emotional new details on the recovery. After nearly five years of captivity. That he wants to be called private first class. Not sergeant. The standard promotion he was given while he was being held as a prisoner of war. In a cnn exclusive interview, secretary of state john kerry is defending the Obama Administrations move. This prisoner swap. Five high profile taliban figures released as you know from guantanamo bay, cuba, sent to qatar in exchange for bergdahl. Kerry said the u. S. Can and will eliminate them if they return to the violent ways and spoke with our Foreign Affairs reporter. Listen. Were told that these five can roam around the country, pretty vague on what those restrictions and monitoring are. I mean, tell me about that and on a scale of one to ten, ten being the most confident, how confident are you that the qataris are able to keep a close eye on these guys . Theyre not the only ones keeping an eye on them. U. S. Monitoring them . Im just telling you theyre not the only ones keeping an eye on those and we have confidence in the requirements and if theyre violated then we have ability to be able to do things. Im not what kind of things . I am not, elise, im not telling you that they dont have some ability some point to go back and get involved but they also have an ability to be killed doing that. No one should doubt the capacity of america to meaning you could kill them . The president has always said he will do whatever is necessary in order to protect the United States of america. So these guys pick a fight with us in the future or now or any time, at enormous risk and we have proven what were capable of doing with al qaeda. Let me just finish. With al qaeda, the core al qaeda in west pakistan, afghanistan. Some people say Bowe Bergdahl is being swift boated. Do you agree with that . Did he serve with honor and distinction as theres plenty of time, elise, theres plenty of time for people to sort through what happened, what didnt happen. I dont know aumt facts. Sounds like youre not sure he served with not what im saying, elise. What im saying is theres plenty of time for people to sort through that. What i know today is what the president of the United States knows. That it would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an american behind. No matter what. To leave an american behind in the hands of people who had torture him, cut off his head, do any number of things and we would consciously choose to do that . Thats the other side of this equati equation. I dont think anybody thinks thats the appropriate thing to do. You know, it seems to me we have an ability, we know we have the ability to be able to deal with people to threaten americans or the United States. And if thats what they go back on their word to do or if the qata qataris dont enforce what they have done, we have any number of avenues available to us to do that. One of the members of the taliban, the detainees from guantanamo, vowed to return to afghanistan, return to the fight and kill americans and the head of the Network Holding him said, look, we have a pretty good idea here now. Lets kidnap more americans. What do you say to the families of american soldiers that perhaps these guys could go back and kill americans again . Well, first of all, propaganda is propaganda and will say whatever they want to stir the waters so people should not be lured in by their propaganda, number one. Number two, we are ending our combat role. Our combat role in afghanistan is over. Were going to have very few, you know, people in that kind of position on occasion where but i honestly i just think thats a lot of bologna to be truthful with you and whatever degree its true they will wind up putting themselves at the mercy of those people who are very effective, who are there, who will deal with those matters. And absolutely fascinating interview with secretary of state kerry from elise labott and getting backlash of fellow democrats even. Erin mcpike at the white house, wlets talk about senator Dianne Feinstein, her reaction surprising . Reporter well, poppy, no. She chairs the Senate Intelligence committee so she has access to all kinds of classified information but shes skeptical about this one. I heard john kerry this morning say, you know, dont worry about them in doha. You cant help but worry about them in doha. And we have no information on how the United States is actually going to see that they remain in doha, they make no comments, they do no agitation. Reporter the running theme here is that lawmakers are skeptical about what the administration has done, theyre demanding more information and they think that the administration has been a little too cavalier about dealing with congress and acting in a democratic fashion. You know, its also interesting, she also went on to voice her frustration that we have heard from lawmakers on both sides about not being notified with that 30day notice as law requires and going to happen, this prisoner swap. But also, erin, republican senator chambliss with a shot at the Obama Administration with the handling of the deal. What is he upset about and the Sticking Point there for him . Reporter its much the same as what Dianne Feinstein was upset about because hes the Ranking Member, the republican who leads the intelligence committee. And he said much the same thing. But his comments, you will see here, quite troubling for the administration. This administrations acted very strangely about this, bob. Kind of puzzling why they did not let us know in advance that this was going to happen. Now, they come back and because he is in decent health, considering where hes been, they have changed their story. They said, well, we suspected his life may be in danger. Reporter now, let me point out that Saxby Chambliss is retiring end of the year and the comments are purely in his capacity as the Ranking Member of the intelligence committee. But also, you have some republicans who are looking for attention, who may be running for president making much different claims but the administration is getting it from really all sides. One republican id point is senator rand paul and may run for president in 2016 and let me read to you what he tweeted earlier. He said, mr. President , lets set up a new trade. Instead of five taliban, lets trade five democrats. The point here is that this is a big political firestorm, going to continue and maybe a flash point for the midterms. Yeah. So interesting, erin. You know, the point this is now on both sides. This has those in the president s own party really upset, weps the protocol, feeling like they were not included and Dianne Feinstein saying, quote, we can keep secrets here. Do you get a sense that this is becoming a lot more than just partisan . Reporter absolutely. I mean, Dianne Feinstein is quite measured in what she says all the time. She has been a big supporter of the administration so for her to make the comments of this morning, that is no small thing and also, poppy, the administration is going to brief the house tomorrow. And im sure well hear more from democrats who are going to be facing some tough races this fall about what they have heard and we may hear some more problems come out of the accuratic ranks tomorrow afternoon. Yeah. Erin, appreciate the report for us today. Thank you. Next, Nic Robertson with details of Bowe Bergdahls life with the taliban straight from the source straight ahead. Well, poppy, the details include how he was able to celebrate christmas and easter and what he did during those five years of captivity, more when we come back after the break. And now angies list is revolutionizing local service again. You can easily buy and Schedule Services from toprated providers. Conveniently stay up to date on progress. And effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our snapfix app. Visit angieslist. Com today. Trwith secure wifie for your business. It also comes with public wifi for your customers. Not so with internet from the phone company. I would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. But that would require wifi. Switch to comcast Business Internet and get two Wifi Networks included. Comcast business built for business. We are hearing more directly from the taliban about Bowe Bergdahls time in captivity than u. S. Officials. Taliban source told cnn that over those five years bergdahl learned the local language, allowed to celebrate christmas, even sometimes played sock we are his captors. That information, those details given directly to Senior International correspondent Nic Robertson and joins me live from doha, qatar. Tell me about this. This just came in in the last few hours and what are they telling you . Reporter yeah, this is a source who trusted over many years whos had information previously about other detail knees held in the same area by the same people. Information thats proven accurate over time. What he says and familiar with some of Bowe Bergdahls capture is initially held in a house not very secure. It was controlled by what he described as an old man. Bergdahl escaped from there. He was on the run for three days and that whole area under taliban control. He had no way to escape there. They rouned him up. And then put him in another location that was very, very secure. According to this source, bergdahl at that point recognized he couldnt escape and began to learn the language, asked for books, given books and islamic books but during all that time hes stuck to his religion. Christianity. The taliban say that they gave him permission to celebrate christmas and easter. During that time. That its one point bergdahl complained about the food. He said he was given too much lamb day after day after day and he didnt like it an one of the sort of meals you get a lot in that region of pakistan and asked for fruit and vegetables. Taliban said they gave him fruits and vegetables and lamb once a week. That was the request. He was able to get exercise. He certainly wasnt free to go and do what he wanted to do but given an opportunity on an occasion to play soccer with the taliban so thats the thats the picture that theyre painting of his captivity. Sure. Reporter that they gave him the food that he requested and he stuck to his religion and stuck to his beliefs. Poppy . It is fascinating and first color we are getting, really, about the time those nearly five years he spent in captivity coming from this side. And still waiting to hear so much from u. S. Officials and most importantly from Bowe Bergdahl himself. Appreciate the update and staying up late for us there, nic. Thank you. My next guest said the deal is ugly. Aaron david miller writes and quoting some of it from him. The United States undercut almost every principle we claim to adhere to on negotiating with terrorists and let out some very bad guys who are almost certain to to attack americans and weaken u. S. Efforts in afghanistan. However, he goes on to write, quote, however, distasteful the deal, it was both a moral and a necessary one. Former middle east negotiator Aaron David Miller joins me now. Thank you for being here. Pleasure, poppy. You are a distinguished scholar and written the end of greatness, why america cant have and doesnt want another great president. Lets talk about that. I was fascinated reading your oped this weekend and spend a first bit of it saying how bad of a deal this was and we had to do it. You are in line with the president , secretary kerry. Why do you think this was the right move right now . Lets set the frame of reference here. There are no good deals in iraq and afghanistan. These are the two longest wars in america where the standard of victory is when could we leave. 6,800 american dead, thousands wounded and trillions of dollars expended and much of our credibility. You want deals, you go to walmart and costco. What you got is a deal i believe morally defensivibibldefensible. A guy falls off an Aircraft Carrier they dont spend time trying to determine why he fell off but find him. The reality is this is a moral commitment. Not just by the military but by the commander in chief and one that dates at least as far back as the civil war where the federal government took on responsibility and changed the relationship between the state, the citizen and the soldier. We made it possible for him to go, i dont care what kind of soldier he was. Want to courtmartial him . Put him in prison . Dont want to put him in prison . Bring him back. We have redeemed him. And then there will be consequences or not. So the actual act of retrieving this guy was it seems to me not only necessary. It was from our point of view consistent with our values, certainly consistent with the values. It was a moral imperative. It was very interesting part of your oped talking about how it harkens back to the civil war and that change in the dynamic. And when you do make the point that it doesnt matter at this point whether bergdahl desserted the post or not but looking at geopolitics and broadly in terms of the u. S. Influence and position within the middle east, do you think that this makes it more difficult for the United States in terms of our relationship with those in the region . Do you think that this helps, hurts, doesnt matter in the broad sense in terms of that . I mean, i think most of the damage to american credibility, lives expended and those who suffered i

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