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Washington. Harsh reaction from the United States. Nine palestinians were killed. The school was being used as a shelter for nearly 3,000 palestinians in Southern Gaza. Heres part of the reaction just coming out from the state department. Quote, the United States is appalled by todays disgraceful shelling outside a unrwa school in rafah. The facilities have been communicated to the Israeli Defense forces. Also said importantly here to point out that israel must do more to meet its own standards and avoid civilian casualties. Now, the Israeli Defense forces say they targeted three militants riding on a motorcycle in the vicinity of a school. Meanwhile, hamas keeps firing rockets from gaza into israel. The idf says scores of rockets were launched today at israeli positions, putting israeli lives at risk there, as well. Were joined now by our own matthew chance, Senior International correspondent in jerusalem. So, matthew, you look at the words today from the u. S. , appalling, disgraceful, talking about this strike against the u. N. School from the u. N. They call it a moral outrage and a criminal act. Its a pretty remarkable turn from friday when those sorts of words were being used to describe the hamas attack on israeli soldiers, which at the time, they thought led to a capture actually. That soldier was killed. I wonder how israel is dealing with this criticism today. Well, first of all, jim, they have denied they targeted this shelter in the Southern Gaza strip saying as you mentioned they were attacking a number of militants that were driving in the vicinity on a motorcycle, they say they killed, theyre also saying they launched an investigation into the exact circumstances. But, what israel is trying to do is shift the blame on to the militants themselves, spokesman saying, if militants are going to use the vicinity of u. S. Schools as war zones, they should be made to take responsibility. That despite the fact that the u. N. Has come out and said, look, we told the Israeli Military no less than 33 times that this was a school that was being used to house thousands of displaced people inside the gaza strip. Its the third attack on a u. N. Shelter just like this in under a week. Thats why were getting such Harsh Criticism from the u. N. And the United States, as well. We heard a hamas leader in qatar tell our Nic Robertson repeatedly in his exclusive interview. We, hamas, are not using Palestinian Civilians as human shields repeatedly denying that. When you look at the israeli strategy on the ground there. Especially following the news late yesterday that he was, indeed killed in the battle and not captured. Have you seen any change in strategy . Or are you expecting any change in strategy there . Especially on the ground from idf . No. I dont think so. I mean, especially in the light of the information thats come out now that lieutenant goldein was not captured. That could have been a game changer, but he was killed in the initial attack where the other two soldiers were killed, as well, trying to destroy those tunnels in the Southern Gaza strip. If it had been captured, taken alive, that wouldve led to a strategic change potentially, of course, in the past, israels been forced to negotiate very hard, very tough way with captors of israeli soldiers. Thinking back in 2011 after spent five years in captivity. They exchanged more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners for him. But the fact that lieutenant goldein has been confirmed as dead, its made it simpler for israel. It can either continue with the military operation in gaza or pull out with the knowledge it hasnt left any of its troops, as it were, behind. Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate the reporting on the ground there for us, matthew chance. Well get back to you later this evening, thanks so much. Israels military, rather, is saying today at least 80 rockets flew across their border fired from gaza. Each time, warning sirens blared to warn people to take cover. And those warning sirens went off. Going to have to were going to have to move, guys. Were going to have to move. Well stay live with the camera rolling, but the sirens are going off. All right. So right now, the sirens going off here and we need to take cover. Going around this way. Let me be clear, that was not a false alarm. Sara sidner and her camera crew saw the smoke and damage near to where they were reporting. Saras joining us now live from inside israel, a little further away from where those alarms went off. Hopefully a safer distance. Sara, how often are you doing that . Taking cover, you know, weve heard a lot about the missiles going off every day. Some of them go far away from residential areas. How often have they come close to where you are or where other israelis will have to flee from them and take cover . Todays been a little different than some of the other days. These rockets are spread out throughout southern israel and the alarms and sirens go off. Youre not hearing the sound of a screaming siren, youre hearing in hebrew red alert and depends on where you are. We certainly saw the result of where it looked like it may have been a rocket and mortar fall somewhere, as well. And there is a military installation in that area. They were quite calm during the first time that we saw a mortar fall. Nobody running and scrambling. These are soldiers that are really close to the border. About 100 to 200 meters from gaza. And they have sort of become quite used to this. On the other hand, the residence where we were, very much closer to ashkelon, but closer to the border. Theyre scared to bring their kids out to play during this fourweek period. Very hard on the people here. But they also recognize how horrible its been for the palestinians. This particular mother we spoke to talked a lot about that. How shes a mother and its also hard for her to see other mothers being killed and their children also being killed on the other side. First from all of us here, fantastic reporting on the ground and just seeing that shows our viewers what you guys are going through just to get the news out. Question on how the state department is responding to t s this to this strike that has killed at least nine people right near that school in gaza being used as a u. N. Shelter. Part of what the state Department Said in their statement is, quote, israel must do more to meet its own standards and avoid civilian casualties. We have seen john kerry, president obama standing firmly behind israel and Benjamin Netanyahu in this. And this language, very blunt language coming out from the state department. Im wondering if youre getting any reaction on the ground to that. Absolutely. One of the things you hear the Israeli Military saying in this particular case is that theres some firing by militants in gaza near the school. But also you hear from them they are investigating this particular case. Saying they were actually looking to take out three islamic apology had militants on a motorcycle in the vicinity. And they are looking into the consequences of that firing. And, of course, were hearing from the u. N. , u. N. And u. S. Calling it disgraceful because there were 3,000 people inside of that u. N. Run school, which has been turned into a shelter. Many of these people running for their lives also because their homes have been crushed. And there have been air strikes throughout the day. Even some this evening weve been hearing about. A house struck also today. Israel saying they are trying to avoid civilians, though there have been several schools struck and the schools themselves have been struck. And that has been condemned by the u. N. And u. S. About ten People Killed according to the Health Ministry around that school vicinity, 30 or so people injured. Poppy . Appreciate the live updates from sara sidner, thank you so much, sara. Increasingly like a daily event seeing so many civilians caught up in that conflict in gaza. Another story at home. Day three and roughly 500,000 people in ohio and parts of michigan still p cant drink their water even if they boil it. That only makes the water more dangerous. The city gets its water from lake erie where a toxin has been found growing in algae. It can cause nausea, vomiting, even acute liver failure. And now people are waiting hours in line for clean water as they wait for test results from several different labs to determine when the water crisis will end. It is my hope that the governor and his staff, we will sit together and we will work through what needs to be done in terms of bringing this, this horrendous negative experience to a positive end. So far, there have been no reports. Didnt want anyone yet getting sick from the water. A pretty unnerving situation, indeed. Coming up here in the newsroom. Israel battling hamas. But they are far from the only ones invested in the outcome of this fighting. Countries are picking sides and placing bets by supporting one side or another in the conflict. Are we witnessing an historic shift in allegiances in the middle east. Well have that next. After one month of renewed fighting between israel and the militant Group Running gaza, more than 1,800 palestinians are reported killed. Most of them civilians, many of them children. 64 troops and 3 civilians have died on their side of the border. The latest conflict is not necessarily a continuation of the long simmering arab israeli conflict. Because this time, it is different. It looks the same. But it is different. I want to bring in peter, also steven cook, a senior fellow for middle Eastern Studies on the council of foreign relations. Thank you to both of you for joining us. Peter, i want to start with you, one way this is different to some degree is just increasing tensions between the u. S. And israel over how israel has carried out their offensive in gaza. You have an example of that today. Language of statement on this strike. The United States is appalled by todays disgraceful shelling. Those are very strong words in diplo speak. And similar words, outrageous, et cetera, against hamas for an attack against israeli soldiers. Have you seen the disagreement on this. The u. S. Still generally supporting. Is the space between u. S. And israel greater than it has been in the past . No, i dont think so, actually. If you think about the way Ronald Reagan generally considered a friend of israel responded during the lebanon war. In one Remarkable Exchange with the prime minister. He told him that what israel was doing in lebanon was a holocaust, which he was very taken aback by. So there is actually a long history of american president s responding strongly when they feel like israel is using Excessive Force that could damage American Interest in the region. But i dont think what were seeing is any fundamental rupture in the u. S. israel relationship. Its still very strong. Its just that i think that the perception of how far israel needs to go to fight hamas is different in the Israeli Government than it is in the white house. Interesting. And a great Historical Perspective going back to reagan. Another difference here is how the various regional players take part. One being israels neighbor, egypt, traditionally a great supporter of hamas. But thats different now that a general in office, kicked out the Muslim Brotherhood, islamic group. How much is that a difference here . And how much does it affect hamas position . Well, just to clarify. Egypt has not been a great supporter of hamas, it has been a great supporter of the palestinian cause. The egyptians sought to keep hamas in a box. After mubarak fell, of course, Mohammed Morsi from the Muslim Brotherhood which is connected to hamas had a different perspective. And seemed to work well with the International Community of the United States, israel in ways to establish a ceasefire in 2012. Now wants to dismantle the Muslim Brotherhood and power in egypt. The egyptians are more closely aligned to the Israeli Government in its incursion into gaza and its effort to do considerable damage to hamas military capabilities. Theres been a lot of reporting about how arab leaders who normally are very loud in their criticism of israels tactics have been more quiet here. And thats certainly relevant. I wonder, peter, if i can ask you, there are a lot of players, and youre seeing more in many of the conflicts, the sunnishia split. Were seeing it take part in iraq, certainly. The palestinian conflict, we used to view as one thing that everybody watched but was kind of its own little battle going on there. Just israel, just the palestinians. But how is this broader conflict playing into this particular one . I think the broader divide has made things harder for the palestinians and especially harder for hamas. Hamas is, of course, a sunni organization. Most palestinians are sunni. But one of the big supporters of hamas was shia iran. And the relationship with iran although they havent been totally severed, hamas was not able to support irans position in syria where the Assad Government is killing so many sunnis. So i think this has been one of the factors that has weakened hamas, which hamas was getting a a sunni organization was getting support. And its harder to do that now in this increasingly religiously polarized arab world. Also created complicated alliances, too. You have isis, a group against assad. But, of course, the u. S. Against isis in iraq. I wonder if we can ask you before we both go, the Israeli Palestinian conflict has been difficult enough to solve in simpler times, right . Many president s have tried it through the years, through the decades. In this complicated time with so many competing alliances in the region, does that make this conflict just does it make a solution to the conflict too distant to be believable . Let me add a further complication here. Rather than it being a reflection of the divide, it is a reflection of the sunni sunni divide. Lining up with the israelis and qatar and turkey lining up with hamas. This creates more and more difficulties within the region. And its hard to believe all the parties together to put leverage on the two main parties, israel and hamas to get to a ceasefire, no less a Peace Agreement between the palestinians and israelis broadly speaking. For viewers at home. It sounds so complicated. And it sounds a million miles away. It certainly is complicated. But the u. S. , theyre very close allies involved in all of these conflicts. And as much as wed like to keep it at arms length, that by its nature keeps the u. S. Involved. Two of the best voices on this topic. Thanks very much for joining us. Thank you. There is another war that hamas and israel will are waging against each other. It is a fight in the media. Images like this are appalling to all of us. Critics say the suffering is sometimes exploited in a campaign to win sympathy. Finish. In life, its how you get there that matters most. Its important to know the difference. Like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. My doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. And that i had to take action. So he talked to me about xarelto®. [ male announcer ] xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesnt require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. 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As we watch the war in the middle east intensify and the casualty numbers climb, we are seeing horrific images. Including civilians caught in the line of fire. Were also seeing and witnessing a battle to shape public perception. Hamas and israel fighting to gain an edge in the court of public opinion. Host of cnns reliable sources is here with u

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