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CNNW CNN Newsroom February 21, 2015

Im Suzanne Malveaux in for poppy harlow. Looks like isis has some military weapons, american weapons, not just a few scattered ones but were talking about a lot now. This humvee american a tracked armored personnel carry for american. These automatic weapons rows and rows of them american. This video was released by isis in the past 24 hours. We dont know when it was shot. Looks like iraq. But that has not been confirmed yet by the u. S. Military. Now, isis fighters they overran a make military outpost earlier this month where iraqi troops were supplied with u. S. Weapons and vehicles. Well theres between 1,000 and 2,000 isis fighters right now in the iraqi city of mosul. Biggest city in iraq after baghdad. U. S. Military officials this week revealed details of a plan to retake the city from isis. That mission would be iraqiled and u. S. Supported. Those words from the brandnew u. S. Defense secretary ash carter not even a week into the position. Well carter is in afghanistan today. Hes meeting afghan leaders and u. S. Troops but he is talking iraq and isis. And sources at the pentagon did reveal a soft timeline for that mission aimed to take back mosul. Our cnns ben wedeman is in iraq this weekend. Reporter pentagon Officials Say the United States is now planning for some sort of iraqiled offensive in late april or may to drive isis out of mosul. But if video posted on facebook showing one battle about 100 kilometers northwest of baghdad indicates that the iraqi army is still on the back foot when it comes to fighting isis. In this video you see isis fighters having overrun this iraqi base in the desert. They clearly got their hands on dozens of americanmade m 16s, a mountain of ak47s. Mortars, ammunition ammunition clips, armored personnel carriers and humvees. This has really been the case going back months as far as the situation in Anbar Province goes. Time and time again isis is overrun these bases and gotten their hands on more and more americanmade equipment. And the worry is of course that if the iraqi army is going to be given the task of driving isis out of mosul, are they up to it . The United States has conducted a crash training course. There are currently about 3200 iraqi soldiers undergoing that course. 2,000 have already graduated. But going into mosul, a city of almost 2 Million People some of the inhabitants who were hostile to the iraqi army before it was driven out is going to be difficult. And kurdish commanders weve spoken to for instance have said even in small villages where theyve managed to drive isis out, isis has left behind dozens and in some towns hundreds of ieds thats made it almost impossible for the original inhabitants to move out. So when youre talking about driving isis out of a city like mosul, its going to be a gargantuan task. Ben weed men, cnn, iraq. Challenges are mounting for iraqi and Coalition Forces as they attempt to stamp out isis. Our cnns tim lister is taking a close look at where the fight against isis is raging and why those regions are strategically important. Important. Mosul, Anibal Fallujah Raqqa we hear every day as the world focuses on the battle against isis. The key cities the key battlefields. Just why are they the key battlefields . Why do they matter so much . Lets start with mosul. The jewel in isis crown in northern iraq. A symbolically important city and one that is now the second largest in iraq. Last july isis leader albaghdadi appeared at the citys grand moss okay declare his caliphate. Isis has begun building fortifications around the estimate the big question is when an offensive to retake mosul might begin. Kurdish Peshmerga Forces have sealed off but the southern exits. The iraqi president promises there will be an operation to retake mosul. But just when. It seems according to most analysts in this region still months away. To the west in iraqs Anbar Province isis appears to be in better shape. Its the Iraqi Security forces who have lost ground. The cities of ramadi and fallujah both under isis control are key battle grounds if the Iraqi Government is to relieve the pressure on the capital and persuade the sunni tribes in this area it will come to their aid. The syrian battlefield is much more complex. And there are signs that isis is trying to reassess its priorities in the face of intensive Coalition Air strikes. Isis prize raqqa is being pummelled from the air almost daily but doesnt seem in imminent danger of falling. Elsewhere in syria, isis appears to be pulling out of certain areas of the northwest and northeast where its under pressure. And it may well be reprioritizing in damascus where theres every chance that a complex battlefield will emerge in the coming months pitting different rebel groups against each other and against the regime. I want to bring in my guest. Former fbi assistant director tom funentes and a retired colonel to talk about this. We see isis is spreading part of its theology that they need to retake territory and Institute Sharia law. Where does it concern you the most . Where is it most frightening that the land the people and communities that they are taking over . Well i think, suzanne, that the idea theyve moved so close to baghdad itself is concerning. And the issue with the retaking of mosul is a huge issue. Yes, we have telegraphed that were coming or helping the iraqis to return their and hopefully evict isis out of mosul. And i think that we probably announced it for the purpose of bolstering the guerilla fighters there that yes were coming hang in there. But if the iraqis army isnt up to it if they dont push them out and win in mosul, thats going to be an enormous difficult catastrophe to overcome i think. Colonel, do you agree with tom here that the u. S. Revealing these detailed plans would actually bolster the Iraqi Forces Say look youre not going to be alone in this. Were going to hang there with you but heres our timetable and isis fighters and militias know when were coming . Generally im against revealing actual timetables. But i dont think its a big secret that mosul has to be one of the key objectives of the new iraqi army the reconstituted iraqi army and the american support. Mosul is the second largest city. Its one of the most important cities. Not only strategically but symbiotically as well. They have got to retake this tear toy. They have got to eject isis from the territory of iraq. They might as well start with mosul. They need to do this. There are so many problems doing this though. I dont think telling them that were going to do this comes as a surprise. I was a little surprised we were actually giving like we expect this to happen in the month of march or the month of april and its going to take six weeks. Five brigades is the right force structure to do this. But six weeks might be pretty aggressive for the iraqi army to do this. The people im talking to do not have the confidence that the iraqi army is really up to this. They do believe that there are some units that are affiliated with the iraqi army. These would be the shia militias. That are outside of the structure. Theyre very effective. So they might have the right force structure to do this. But i think that tom is right here. If they go into mosul and dont win, thats a tremendous setback for the new government. And tom, i want to talk about this point here. Because if this video is correct here and were seeing isis flaunting americanmade weaponry right, that they claim that theyve gotten from the iraqis that the u. S. Has supplied i mean how much of a psychological blow can that be to the iraqi forces who are not only seeing the weapons in isiss hands now through this video but also potentially iraqi bodies that theyre showing on the video as well . I mean thats got to weigh pretty heavily on those forces there who are look at this kind of enemy yes i would think so. Were supplying weaponry to the iraqis then they lose it. Were trying to train them and get them ready for combat and they lose the battles and lose their lives. And i think its pretty disheartening. And when you look back at all these years that weve been training military come marnsd we practically have trained more commanders in iraq than we have at west point. And yet this has been something where theyve not been able to overcome isis in a big way. Now yes weve deterred them from taking more land recently. Primarily the air strikes keep them off the highways to get from one city to the other. But this is a huge problem. And its going to continue to be until theyre ready to fight and start fighting successfully. All right. Were going to take a quick break. Well bring you guys back. We have a lot to discuss. A lot more to discuss about this. Four minnesota men caught in custody, caught trying to leave the country to join isis. Meanwhile, police in london raising the alert over three teenage girls who may be headed for syria. Were going to examine the rise of western jihadists. That is next. Introducing data stash. Now at tmobile, all your unused data rolls forward for 12 months. And if you switch today, well even give you 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data. Data stash. Only from tmobile. Meet the worlds newest Energy Superpower. Surprised . In fact, america is now the worlds number one natural gas producer. 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Rick, i dont understand it. I dont claim to understand it. But were hearing these new cases that happen every week about young people who are being recruited and making their way over to join in this battle. I mean how do we explain this . Its baffling to me. And especially in light of what weve seen over the past couple of weeks. After the burning of the jordanian pilot and the reported burning of these 45 Iraqi Security officials in Anbar Province you would think that that would revile so many people that it would hurt recruiting efforts. Yet were seeing the exact opposite. Were seeing people flock to this organization. It must be the draw that these people feel that this is the pure islam and this is what i want to be a part of. But to me its just counter intuitive. I cant explain it. Tom, in light of the fact that youve got this recruitment that is happening here a lot of propaganda particularly online here this would seem to me if its working, seems to be working here particularly for the young folks an opportunity as someone whos been in intelligence an opportunity for infiltration for the United States or somebody from the west to infiltrate this organization and pretend like theyre going to be a part of this and work from the inside to destroy them. Well the problem with that is many of these kids that are going there, theyre 17 18 19 years old. And i think that isis is smart enough to realize that theyre not going to be selected by the fbi or the cia or another Intelligence Service from the west to go over there and fight a war and possibly get killed. And i think oftentimes when they do arrive even when there is suspicion of their background of whether they are agents of the United States the simple test is put them in battle. If they get killed fine. If they dont get killed maybe theyre loyal after all. So i think that its really theyre smart enough to realize that were not going to send over kids on our be half and have them get killed. But not literally these teenagers, but could the u. S. Or some other western force send in intelligence send in spies, send in people to infiltrate isis old are individuals who are just simply posing as somebody who wants to join since there is such a recruitment effort thats under way . Well, its possible. Id rather not go into too much detail about how they could possibly pull it off. But the thought of it im sure is something thats been going on for decades of how do you infiltrate whether its the mafia or whether its isis or main al qaeda, you saudis have been said successful. They had the numbers of the printer bombs that were mailed or shipped in 2010. So its possible. But its going to be very difficult for the u. S. To actually do it. It would be much easier for someone born in the region an iraqi, a syrian a jordanian, to be selected to do Something Like that. And colonel, talk about the propaganda effort here. What can be done . We heard from the white house this week talking about this very small office that theyre simply going to beef up and kind of look and use all the different departments from Homeland Security and cia and all of that to really bolster this propaganda effort against and away from recruiting from isis. Do you think that is going to be something thats effective . Because we have seen isis use the internet like no other organization tweeting thousands and thousands of time per hour. You know i spend a lot of time on social Media Monitoring the isisal qaeda, all these different networks. These people are matters of propaganda. They put out a very wellcrafted message. And it seems to resonate with the people theyre going after. Im not sure that our government effort is going to be that effective in countering this. So i think were probably going to have to accept the fact that were probably not going to win that battle. But we still have to try. These guys are masters of propaganda. And tom said something earlier about all these messages these videos that they put out. This is a psychological operation. Theyre very effective at it. When they show those tapes, those videos of all these weapons being captured the troops being killed this has a real impact on the psyche of the iraqi soldiers. So theyre very good at manipulating social media. And it will continue. All right. Thank you so much colonel tom fuente is, we appreciate your insights as always certainly trying to figure out something that makes sense here for those who are trying to stop the brutality that we are seeing in the middle east now and what isis is capable of doing. Tom, colonel, thank you so much. And still ahead, bill reilley defending his reporting records on the balkans war. The details next. But first here is this weeks one to watch. First day i saw charles s lshlgz ob lobac in the studio i saw movement that ive never seen another ballet dancer do. It was uncanny what i saw. He improvised to his own music that he brought in. Let me show you this. I thought he was brilliant. Then i changed the music and put Classical Music on. It changed him. It changed the fluidity of his movement. It slowed him down. I told them i didnt want to wear tights because i want going for that stuff in ba lay. Majority of girls on point. I thought that was interesting. When we started this and i started explaining it to potential donors literally someone called my father and said, doesnt she know that hiphop is the downfall of civilization as we know it . No i dont know that because theyre wrong. So my idea was, how do i change this generations mindset so they can see the beauty . Because this is folk dance. And i think charles is removing the fear. Doug, we have the results, but first, we have a very special guest. Come on out, flo [house band playing] you have anything to say to flo . Nah, ill just let the results do the talking. [crowd booing] well, he can do that. We show our progressive direct rate and the rates of our competitors even if progressive isnt the lowest. It looks like progressive is not the lowest ohhhh when we return well find out whether doug is the father. Wait, what . All right. Got to love these live pictures here. This is out of washington, d. C. Of course. Theres the white house and just a few miles north there in maryland were also take a look at this. This is just a mess. Interstate 95 south of baltimore, people going nowhere in the heavy snow. Its tough going at that time. It will take some time to clear up. So a lot of snow happening in my neck of the woods. Still got to travel or at least try to. All right. Good luck to them. Conservative fox news pundit bill oreilley is on the defensive over his reporting career. He devoted most of ten minutes to the top of his program last night defending his record as a journalist. Oreilly fired back after leftleaning magazine mother jones claimed he exaggerated stories about his time as a cbs reporter covering the falklands war in argentina. Brian smelter is our senior media correspondent. Give us a sense. Some people are saying or making comparisons with nbcs Brian Williams. Is that a fair comparison to make . Mother jones called this the Brian Williams problem for bill oreilley. The leftleaning magazine that first wrote about these allegations on thursday. There is some real substance to them. Over the years oreilly talked about being in a combat situation and being in a war zone in argentina. He sometimes talked about being at the falkland island when in fact he was 1,000 miles away in argentina. Very few reporters were actually able to get to those islands during that war in 1982. So there is some substance to this. But bill oreilley is on the offense responding to it. Heres some of what he said last night. Heres the truth. Everything ive said about my reporting career everything is true. 33 years ago in june argentina surrendered to Great Britain endi

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