Millions of undocumented immigrants now fear the next knock on the door could see them deported, too. Protesters are taking to the streets from los angeles, where highways were blocked. [ chanting ] to this protest happening outside the white house, where they chanted, immigrants are welcome here. But is this all just a kneejerk reaction . I. C. E. Officials and the white house both say yes and these raids are routine. Important to remember here, president obama deported more people than any previous president and Immigration EnforcementOfficials Say for the most part, these raids were planned at the end of his immigration. Lets all set the stage now as we get reaction from the ground. Cnns Polo Sandoval is live at an i. C. E. Detention center. And polo, the i. C. E. Officials say these raids were routine, but the public reaction has been very different from past operations. Why . What are you hearing . Reporter that i. C. E. Official telling cnn that these kinds of operations, these detention and deportation operations typically happen about two or three times a year,. What is different, though, is obviously the Political Climate right now and that debate that is happening across the country about how the u. S. Government should be prioritizing some of these cases. Which leads to the crux of this issue here, the immigrant activists right now, they are concerned that, for example, some of these nonviolent, but undocumented offenders, could be categorized in the same group as some of the violent offenders, people who have convictions for drug trafficking, assault, and other things of that nature. So really, that is at the heart of the debate right now. But in the meantime, we are hearing from the Trump Administration, including his newly appointed secretary for the department of homeland security, who is stressing really the meaning behind what were seeing here, some of these latest detentions and deportations. This is some of the latest comments from secretary john kelly. Take a listen. Well, first of all, theyre not rounding anyone up. The people the that i. C. E. Apprehend are people who are illegal and then some. I. C. E. Is executing the law. Reporter and this is also leading to warnings from the mexican government, who, as weve already heard, is now reaching out to some of the mexican citizens who are living in the United States, many without legal status, to simply be informed, ana, before they make their way to their nearest i. C. E. Detention center to try to keep up with their immigration proceedings. All right, Polo Sandoval reporting. Thank you. Lets bring in our panel now. Famed attorney and professor emeritus, and a former ambassador to the Czech Republic and a fellow with the brookings institution. And cnn political commentator and former Reagan White House political director, jeffrey lord. Ambassador eisen, lets start with you. The planning for this immigration operation, were hearing about, apparently began during the Obama Administration. And i. C. E. Officials say other raids were part of daytoday operations. Now, is it fair that democrats and activists are now hitting President Trump for ripping families apart, if, indeed, these raids were planned previously . Ana, thank you for having me. And i do think it is fair for the country and its political leaders to be asking hard questions. Planning is one thing. And there was controversy around the obama enforcement actions, but execution of the raids is another matter. And it does seem like theres extra vigor to the execution of these raids. And one has to ask, is President Trump taking out his frustration with his losing campaign in the ninth circuit on an immigration issue, on these individuals, tearing these families apart . So i think the questions are fair. Jeffrey, donald trump promised an immigration plan, quote, a lot of heart. How does that square with the story weve been reporting, about Guadalupe Garcia de rayos, an undocumented immigrant mother of two who was just deported back to mexico . Well, she wasnt just an illegal immigrant, she was also a convicted felon. Right, for a Social Security number that she used that was falsified. Yeah, so what does that mean . She was using it to vote . Did she vote . Was she getting obamacare . Was she what was she doing with all of this . No, but she was checking in with i. C. E. Officials year to year, even after that felony conviction, and just now happened to be deported. She still violated american law. If you are using somebody elses Social Security in this country and you are an american citizen, you can wind up in jail and should. So, i mean, im just a little baffled at this. I mean, she is being the fact that she was here and did this is not excusable. All right. Lets move on to talk about the president s travel ban. Professor dershowitz, President Trump talked to reporters last night about losing the court appeal on his controversial travel ban. But now hes saying he could write a brandnew executive order. Listen to what he said. You also talked about it takes time. Statutorily. But well win that battle. But we also have a lot of other options, including just filing a brandnew order on monday. Is that your intention . Could very well be. But i like to keep you i like to surprise you. We need speed for reasons of security. So it could very well be that we do that. I know it was a little bit hard to hear. We had to put up the subtitles on the screen. I dont know if you could see those. Essentially, he said, a new executive order could be possible. It could come as soon as monday. He said speed is of the essence. Alan, youve been saying on days and days for cnn here that the president should withdraw his order and start over. Why do you think thats his best bet . Because, although he might win a partial victory in the supreme court, it would take weeks or months to do that, and hes already on the record saying that failure to have an order in place poses a Major National security threat. So i think he has no option but to issue a new order. Hopefully, it will be a constitutional order. One that will distinguish between American People on the one hand, people with green cards, people with visas that are proper, people going to american universities, and people who have no contact whatsoever with the United States. And there is a constitutional distinction between those categories. I hope he will also add some due process and will change some of the language to avoid any claims of unconstitutionality. I want to make a broader point, though, that relates to the question you asked previously. You know, when obama did something and when trump does something, even if its the same thing, youre going to get a lot of people opposing what trump did, because trump did it. For example, picking the seven countries. There were no objections the or very few, there were very few objections from liberals when obama did the dry foot wet foot policy, abolished that. And by the way, the same thing happened to obama early in his administration. Everything he did was wrong. And i think both sides are wrong when they do this. I think you have to judge actions by the actions themselves, not bri whether you like the president who engaged in those actions. And i think we need to take a step back, give the president an opportunity to govern, just like i said, we should be giving president obama the opportunity to govern and stop with all this partisanship, which is really hurting the country in so many profound ways. Lets talk about i disagree with professor dershowitz entirely. I thought you would agree with him. Thats why i didnt ask for your reaction. All right, lets talk about this legal ramifications of all of this. This was criticism of President Trump rolling out this travel ban initially kind of quickly led to chaos at airports. Ultimately, a legal defeat. Any concern that the president could be moving too fast again, saying hes coming out with something early this next week, as soon as monday . Ana, i think that its wise of the president to consider a new order, parse what he said very carefully, though. He didnt necessarily say hes going to withdraw. I want to be the first to sign up for the Alan Dershowitz for white House Counsel club. Because dershowitz is giving him the right advice youve got to yank that unconstitutional order and replace it with a good one. That may be the direction they go or they may be doing a supplemental or separate order. I do think that theyre moving too fast. When i worked in the white house, my nickname was mr. No. And they need somebody and the white house city council, don mcdan needs to do this, and the Justice Department needs to do this. It seems like donald trump is surrounded by yes men and women. I think they need to take the time and do it right. The ninth circuit has given him a road map, and he would be rise, the president , to take that road map. It is true, i may even get jeffrey to agree with me on this, it is true that the weakest part, the weakest link in the chain of the distinguishmaking in the ninth circuit is the aliens who have no connection to the United States at all. And that is where he should focus. They havent even had the talk about wet foot dry foot, they havent even set foot inside the system to have any engagement at all. Thats a bright line you can draw. I think that that would rest easier with the ninth circuit, in reviewing the new order. And make no mistake about it, it will be reviewed. Go ahead, alan. The problem is ana i think the problem is that the people who work under trump are terrified to disagree with him. Look at what happens just today, eliot abrams, eminently qualified to be the undersecretary of state, a man who really could have brought about peace in the middle east with his experience, he passes everybodys test. Tillerson says yes, Jared Kushner says yes, even trump says yes, after meeting with him. And then he finds out that he wrote an article critical of him back in may, and he says, no, im going to overrule the secretary. Its hard to be critical of this president. And thats why anybody who accepted the role of white House Counsel or mr. No in the white house would be doing it at the risk of his job. Im very much worried that people are not going to stand up. Look what happened to the office of Legal Counsel. They approved this horrible order without giving him the kind of criticism that office of Legal Counsel is supposed to do. I think people are afraid that if they give him the truth, he is not going to hes going to jeffrey, are people in his circle too afraid to confront him with something he may not want to hear . Though, with i dont think so. And ana, two quick things here. Number one, in terms of eliot abrams, whom i like enormously and respect a great deal, he was getting blowback not from inside the Trump Administration, but from a lot of folks out there who were trump supporters, who would disdain for what is called in the trade neo conservatives, of which eliot is one. So i know for a fact that there was blowback against that that there might have been some political problems with that. Secondly, as to President Trump himself, and this and the court order, et cetera, the president is not one to go down rabbit holes. He wants to win, as hes famously noted. So i can assure you, based on his performance both in his business and his campaign, he will do with this executive order whatever he thinks he needs to do to accomplish his objective. All right. Well end it there. Thank you all so much for joining us. A lot of good points. Thanks, ana thank you. Coming up, russia calling National Security adviser general Michael Flynn walking back some of the denials initially that he talked sanctions with the Russian Ambassador before trump was even in office. Did he break the law . Plus, a fury of raw emotion at republican town halls as constituents confront lawmakers face to face. Well, if youll be quiet and give me an opportunity, ill speak. 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Well, we are still very much in the initial stages of figuring out what exactly north korea has done here, but a defense official literally just confirmed a few seconds ago with our producer here in south korea, an official with the south Korean Defense ministry here, that a Ballistic Missile test was launched around 7 55 a. M. Local time this morning. But the Big Questions that you have to ask every time you hear this kind of line is what kind of missile was launched and was the test successful . And we dont have the answers so far to either of those two questions. Theres a couple different kind of options that north korea could launch in terms of missiles. Theres shortrange, mediumrange, and of course these longrain intercontinental Ballistic Missiles youve heard quite a bit about. And to be frank, we dont know yet what kind of missile was launched, and whether this particular test was successful. But regardless of what kind of test it was and whether or not it was successful, the timing of this test is obviously very important, given that this is the first Ballistic Missile test that we have seen the North Koreans conduct since donald trump became president. The last time they conducted such missile tests was back on october 20th, obviously, before election day. So this really is going to be the first test, when it comes to north korea, for this brandnew administration dealing with so many other things at the moment. And we also heard lots of bluster from the North Koreans about specifically intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. The kind of missiles that could potentially reach the United States. North korea has never successfully tested one of those missiles yet, but it is something that they have been working on for a long time and we heard their leader, kim jongun, in january, say that the North Koreans were in the final stages of developing that kind of missile to test. And so that is the big question we have right now, ana. What kind of missile was this . How successful was this test . And how is the Trump Administration going to respond . And what was the motivation or message wanting to be sent here. I want to bring in our cnn military analyst, Lieutenant GeneralMark Hertling, to talk more about the timing of all of this. Obviously, not a huge surprise, we know. The world has been anticipating some sort of missile test since last month. It was january 1st when kim jongun said that they would be testing an icbm, an intercontinental Ballistic Missile soon, at the time. We also know that at the beginning days of president obamas administration, there was a missile test. And again, even after his second term started, there was, within a short amount of time, another missile test. So, there seems to be a pattern. What do you make about the timing of this, and of course, knowing that the japanese