The infection rate for a period of time because kids are going to be kids. I think you are right. How are we going to manage all this and they dont have money for this right now for more classrooms . You could not build more classrooms for summer schools or the fall. Money is going to be tight depending what washington does. Theyre doing Remote Learning and physical consequences because of this period. Some ways theyll save or cost money. Do you anticipate a decision on this week in terms of businesses . May 15th. You are announcing prior to that. It has been two months since the first cases reported and can you spoke of what we have accomplished and at least 18,000 people and at least 300,000 people sick. How would you evaluate your performance during this crisis . I try my best. Should new yorkers expect it to happen here as well . Well, we are aware of what new jersey is doing and what connecticut is doing. We are trying to coordinate with those states from day one. You will not have uniform policies across all the states but knowing what other states are going to do because states can have significant effect on a neighbor state, knowing what they do is helpful and the appropriate time well make those decisions. The decisions are on summer activities are very difficult. You want to look at the tension and you want to get people out of their homes and give them something to do. You want to keep the infection rate down. You have these Mental Health issues and domestic violent issues and you have a lot going on so you do want a relief valve, right . It is going to get hot in the summer. You want a level of activity, you dont want to overwhelm a city by keeping everything close but you dont want to have high density and violation and social distancing. Thats what we are trying to work for the summer activities. We have a little more time and we are talking about it now. Governor of new york andrew cuomo giving his briefing in albany. Lower hospitalization rates and intubation rate. The governor announcing no schools in new york will reopen this Academic School year. Summer School Decisions will be made down the road. Schools is likely will begin in the fall. The governor had to rate his performance and he said i try my best. The focus on the 900 newly diagnosed covid19 cases from daytoday, trying to get a sense why is that Number Holding stable right there. Who are these people . Are they people at home getting infected of are they essential workers out everyday. Joining me now to discuss that our dr. Mena. It is good to see you again. You h so you have a steady number of 900 to 1100 or so. When you have a number thats so stubborn like that, whats the importance of trying to figure out is it one or two population or more widespread. Thas t is that the idea . Absolutely. You are trying to understand how to control this in the future. We have to understand whats going on now. This is where one of the areas where Contact Tracing can be important to try to track down every single case and understand what commontialities between the people, is it people walking on the sidewalks or the transportation they are using or theyre really trying to get to the bottom of this and where they are getting infected despite the shutdown. It is going to be crucial as we control this and move into the future. As we try to figure it out and another thing we have seen in the state of new york, the governor said i tried my best. He thinks the steps they took did flatten the curve. I want you to listen to another expert talking about looking at the meat packing industry in seattle where coronavirus spreads like fire. His longterm outlook. Listen. Once it gets into a meat packing plant for prison or facility, look how fast it spreads. It is going to continue to do that until 60 or 70 of the population being infected. This is going to continue until that happens. Explain of what it means and how long we are talking about if 60 or 70 of people getting infected. How long is that . I entirely agree with dr. Osterholm. This virus will continue to transmit among people who have not had it. Once you have enough immunity in the population so lets say for example i am infected with the virus and i have been out with a lot of people who are susceptible, i can still transmit to them. 80 of the people i run to are immune to the virus, i may go outside and not transmit it to anyone. Thats what we need to do. We need to get some point of that level of immunity. It is only then well stop population transmission. What we are seeing right now is very little population level immunity in the broad population across the United States for example maybe 5 . We are not sure of the exact number. That means 95 of the population will be able to contract and spread the virus and we see it spreading like wildfires and Nursing Homes and factories and all across the country as a result. Among every governor now is figuring out when to reopen and where to keep restrictions or loosen restrictions. I want you to listen to the governor of california, he extended the stayathome order. Listen to how he considers it a challenge ahead. Maybe you feel asymptomatic and feeling fabulous and tested without knowing a few days later after your negative test you may contract the disease and spread back into the community. It is not just availability of testing today but you will have to have it how regularly or how often . What is the cycle of testing will be as you put more and more people back into the workplace and the community . Viral testing is a difficult type of testing to look at. You can monitor somebody. If you test them once, you dont know if they have been infected yesterday or today is negative or they may be positive tomor w tomorrow. So really with viral testing with nasal swabs require repeat testing over and other. If we are going to use viral testing for surveillance effort, it should be coupled to these antibody tests we have heard about which gives somebody an understanding if they have already been exposed or maybe a month or maybe a year ago obviously with this virus is not a year ago yet. But to cold bien tmbine the two modalities can be were important. If you go to a nursing home and you measure the 10 of the residents who are positive, you have no idea maybe two or three weeks ago 50 could have been positive and you are measuring them on the down spring of the epidemic or two weeks from now 30 will be positive. Having the Antibody Testing in conjunction with the viral testing will be crucially important to be able to monitor the facts and control these outbre outbreaks. 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It is simple. What are the facts . Do any of the things she says do they add up . Reporter the nominee for president defiant and unequivocal denying that he sexually assaulted tara reed in the 1990. She was ordered to take a duffel bag to her boss. Reed also among multiple women said last year she experienced physical interaction with biden that made her feel uncomfortable. None of those women including reid at the time accused biden of assault. Biden saying such a complaint does not exist. I am confident of nothing. No one brought it into my attention. No one i am aware of in my campaign or should my Senate Office at the time is aware of any rewequests or any such complaint. Reporter three people close to reid telling cnn they did hear about the allege sexually assault. Reades friend telling cnn reade confided in her. I am wondering what staffer would do if they go to the press in washington. My daughter just left there and could not get through with her problems a all. The only thing she could have done is go to the press and she chose not to do it. Reporter the anonymous caller not naming biden or describing in any details what problems her daughter confronted. Reade telling cnn the voice on the show belongs to her mother and she told her about the alleged assault of the night that it happened. Cnn interviewed half a dozen of former biden aids who worked in the early 1990s. All of them said they were not aware of any Sexual Harassments or assault allegations. Biden says reades story should be fully examined. From the beginning, i said believing a woman means take the claim seriously, vet it and look into it. Thats true in this case as well. Women have to right to be heard and investigate claims they make. I always uphold that principle. In the end the truth is what matters. In this case, the truth is the claims are false. Reporter the allegations come as biden prepares to take on President Trump during the election. More than a dozen women having allegations with trump, trump denied all those allegations. I have been falsely charged numerous times and there was such a thing. Reporter now there are a lot of questions now about whether there may be any kind documentations about reades complaints because she said she filed something with the Personnel Office on capitol hill about the Sexual Harassment as well and biden is saying today that he believes those personnel papers are in the National Archive and that he would call on it to do a research and release anything that may be related todd a complain. John. M. J. Lee. Thank you for that report. Please stay with us. Dana bash is joining us and maggie from the new york times. This is a difficult day for the former president , an important day he decided to put a lot of pressure quietly among democrats for him to address this finally but well hear from tara reade this weekend. Thats an important chapter. I think it is. Hearing tara reade speak for herself and seeing her on camera will be important for people to assess this claim. Biden finally addressed this story where a lot of democrats wanted him to do. Democrats are left in a difficult position having to defend this when he was not defending it himself. Well see what happens after she speaks. There has been some contradictions in her claims but with that said i think the most striking thing, one o f tf the striking things he said this morning is women have been right to heard. Thats a principle of the me too movement which a movement that that democrats support. It shows if it holds through here as well as allegations against the republicans. An excellent point that maggie makes. The washington figures there especially as we go back to the kavanaughs drama. The speakers were all adamant. Kavanaughs accusers should be heard. There is a lot of anxiety among democrats about this. Whats the mood the Vice PresidentCarry Forward into that interview . There is a sigh of relief because he did it and he was so emphatic saying nothing happened. The problem is when you look at the end of the interview and he was pressed on unanswered questions. What about the university of delaware. His campaign focus was if there is something filed, we want the National Archives to look into it and see if anything is there. What about the university of delaware where all of his Senate Papers are. He didnt have an answer for why they cant do the same kind of search at the university of delaware. He was relying on the angels understandable rule and without a controversy that people dont have any of their papers public until after theyre gone from public life but this is an exception and when you are trying to put forward a brand new strategy of transparency to not have an answer to that question whether it is a red pairing or not. It could be, we talk aboare tal about politics here and we know how it works. Republicans seizing on that and taking it to democratic members of congress, Democratic Candidates running for congress and senators as well. It already is trickling down to that unanswered question to other candidates on the ballot. So thats why it is not over yet. I want to listen to the part where he was asked several times. I want to listen to how the former Vice President describes hes making a distinction. His senate paper were given to the university of delaware and the daytoday manage record, he believes those are in the National Archives. On the question about what about the note at the university of delaware, he said this. A record like this can only be at one place. It would not be at the university deldelaware. The National Archives would have anything to do with personnel records. There are no personnel records in the bidens lets assume there is no personal records. Theyre not at the university of delaware. That does include personal correspondence and i get it, past and Public Officials trying to keep it from the public eye saying his private trip with obama. Could he not ask reputable including republicans to go to the university to work on what they inventory the document and did a name search just to make sure there is nothing in any of that correspondence that has the name tara reade. When joe biden was pressed on that interview, he did not have a clear ponrespond. I am going to assume thats manager the campaign is thinking through right now because so many of his critics and people who are calling for transparency are going to fixate on this issue. I have to say it is important to point out if we are going to talk about this potential documentation or any paper wor and the issue of transparency, i am certain that any of bidens allies or supporters are going to be talking about the fact that there are somebody in the white house who had not held himself up to the standards of the extremely transparent everyoeven on something as obvious as tax returns, right . I think this is where we get into an ugly back and forth on the issues of transparency and which party is more transparent when the bumlk of the focus should be on reporting on what that reporter is doing on what happened and is there corroboration on either side. An important point. I appreciate your insights on this. Well continue reporting. Up next, the mayor of los angeles explains how hes able to offer free coronavirus testing. 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