On conspiracy theory, not the survival of the American People. Take a look at your screen. 11 million cases, it reveals the depths of the u. S. Failure to control the coronavirus. Tonight, michigan is implementing new restrictions to avert a winter disaster. But already, pushback from the president s preferred medical advisor, dr. Scott atlas. And today, a revelation about how little the president has been engaged fighting covid behind the scenes. Dr. Anthony fauci said its been five months since the president met with the Coronavirus Task force. Its been eight days since the election was called and the president still refuses to concede. But this morning, the president tweeted the quiet part out loud. At least to him. He won. Are the first two words of the president s 7 47 a. M. Tweet. He is joe biden. The rest is a hodgepodge of unsubstantiated allegations from an alternate universe. The president suggested the election is still up for grabs. It isnt. In fact, delaying could create National Security vulnerabilities. Former president obama says its time. The president doesnt like to lose. And never admits loss. Im more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along, humoring him in this fashion. Its one more step in delegitimizing not just the incoming Biden Administration, but democracy, generally. And thats a dangerous path. Coming up soon, a look at the inner workings of the trump white house. Three insiders give insight into what is happening in the west wing. Will a transition delay jeopardize u. S. National security . Those are some of the key questions well be asking. But first, were covering every angle of the critical days between the election and the inauguration. Lets start with Jeremy Diamond at the white house. A remarkable back and forth this evening between the governor of michigan and the president s preferred medical adviser. What is going on . Reporter well, this isnt the first time the president and his team have singled out gretchen whitmer. Shes been a frequent target of the president s attacks as she tries to get control of the pandemic in her state. After announcing the new restrictions in the state of michigan to try to rein in the pandemic in michigan, dr. Scott atlas, who is not a Public Health expect, hes a neuroradiolo neuroradiologi neuroradiologist, hes tweeting, the only way this stop is if people rise up. You get what you accept. Freedommatters, stepup. And Governor Whitmer was the target of a kidnapping plot that was foiled by Law Enforcement officials last month. Scott atlas said he was never talking about violence, saying that people should peacefully protest the measures. And heres what Governor Whitmer said to wolf blitzer. We know the white house likes to single us out here in michigan, me out in particular. Im not going to be bullied into not following reputable scientists and experts. I listen to people who have studied and are wellrespected worldwide on these issues, not the individual that is doing the president s bidding on this one. Reporter the michigan governor making it clear shes not going to be deterred. The president , meanwhile, he isnt doing much at all to rein in the pandemic. He hasnt been telling americans what to do, hes been echoing misinformation. Pam . Dr. Atlas is claiming he wasnt encouraging violence, and this wasnt in regards to the fact that she had been targeted in a kidnapping plot for her prior covid restrictions. Do we have a better understanding of what he meant by saying rise up . Reporter he says in the tweet, hey, i never was talking about violence. People vote and protest. Never would i endorse or incite violence, never. Ultimately, this is dr. Scott atlas, who has the president s ear, hes going against the consensus of every Public Health expert who you would hope that the president of the United States would be listening to. Instead, hes listening to dr. Scott atlas, who is not an epidemiologist. Pam . Jeremy, thank you so much. Lets go to jessica dean, the word is that there will be a meeting with the biden camp with pfizer . Reporter yes, we heard from ron klain saying they do plan to meet with pfizer and other drug companies, as they continue to push ahead in their transition. They have formed the covid19 Advisory Board next week, and have been trying to do what they can while the formal transition remainin remains in limbo. Remember, the gsa has not signed off on the transition. So the formal transition has not been triggered yet, so the biden team is not legally allowed to reach out to current federal employees. Theyre having to do a lot of this work where they can, with private companies, with local officials. Heres klain from earlier today. Were going to have meetings between our top scientific advisers and the officials of these drug companies. Not just pfizer, but other promising vaccines as well. Well start those consultations this week. Its great to have a vaccine, but vaccines dont save lives. Vaccinations save lives. You need to get that vaccine into peoples arms all over the country. Its a giant logistical project. Reporter and the biden team understands what an enormous undertaking it will be to distribute the vaccine. They want to get going on it, they want a seamless transition on january 20th. So people in health and Human Services are talking through how to distribute the vaccine, but the biden transition is not able to talk with them, so its not an easy thing to do. And time is just taking away. Another area where this is having an effect is National Security. Biden is still not getting the National Security briefings, that means theyre not able to follow the day to days bulletin points of what is going on in the National Security realm. And people like john kelly, former chief of staff of the Trump Administration, said this could be catastrophic, that biden should be getting those. So a number of things that they cant do, that they would be getting in a normal transition process. And in addition to keeping covid front and center, well hear a lot more about that this week, theyre also going to be focusing in on the economy. Well expect to see and hear from the president elect and the Vice President elect tomorrow afternoon. Talking about the economy, about Building Back better. Theyre going to talk about what actionable items theyll be looking at, now that theyre headed to office. And now, dr. Celine gounder, joining me. I want to talk about what concerns it raises for you that the president s medical adviser is attacking the governor of michigan for implementing these restrictions. I think we agree, the American People must rise, we must rise to the occasion in the absence of leadership, its in our hands to work with our state and local officials to do what we need to do in terms of masking. This is a chief, effective intervention that does not interfere with the economy. And its highly effective. And i think youre seeing great leadership from governors like Governor Whitmer, who are really following the science. And youll notice that shes implementing restrictions that are very targeted. I think it of as a dimmer switch, versus what we saw in the spring, with draconian lockdowns. For example, in terms of schools, its not a full school shutdown. Theyre targeting the older students who are more likely to transmit. Theyre targeting the closure of indoor dining, but leaving Outdoor Dining and takeout open. Theyre closing up group classes, at gyms, but theyre leaving individual gym workouts open. Theyre really trying to be very judicious in what theyre closing up. Would the Biden Administration encourage other states to adopt similar types of mitigation efforts . I think this is exactly what were looking at doing. Were talking about, lets be geographically targeted, by zip code. Lets follow the science, now that we understand better what are the settings where transmission is more likely to occur. What are the age groups that are more likely to have transmission . But i think moving forward, we really do need to dramatically scale up testing. Because that information allows us to be more targeted. When you dont know where the virus is, its harder to do that. Lets talk about the Practical Impacts of what were seeing with the transition stalled. How is impacting the fight against covid . How have you been directly impacted . The wlo tell us what its been like from your view, and what the practical concern is from your experience. Well, we really need to have a much better understanding of the details. For example, how much ppe, you know, the masks and face shields and ventilators and all of the other necessary equipment, is available, where is it, how much of it do we have . How many hospital beds, how many ventilators . Some of this information is publicly available, but not all of it and not in real time. Youve asked for that, and theyre not giving it to you . Were not getting any information. Youve asked for that information, and youre getting stonewalled, correct . Were being given what is publicly accessible information. Thank you so much for joining me. As President Trump refuses to concede, americas adversaries are watching. Coming up, ill speak with three people who have worked in the Trump Administration, and talk about what they think hell do next. And we have liftoff. Astronauts heading to the International Space station on a spacex capsule. Is not the same. Its our sharpest ever, and while some other companies would charge more for something new, we dont. Harrys. 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She resigned in july, saying she was fed up with the president s botched response to the pandemic. Also, elizabeth newman, one of 150 former National Security officials who signed a letter warning of risks in the biden transition delay. And john kosik, as well. Thank you all for joining me, first and foremost. I appreciate you taking the time. I want to go to you first, john. What is the president s refusal to concede this election doing to an already deeply divided country in your view. Not just that he wont concede, but also claiming the election was stolen from him. Pamela, first of all, thank you for having me on. And the country is already extremely polarized, with the amount of distrust, discord, and hatred out there is extreme. And at the same time, the president is undermining the basis of our democracy, and the peaceful transfer of power, which is the hallmark of our democracy. This is making a situation that has grown virtually intolerable over the past years worse, and unfortunately i think its designed to sow distrust in the incoming Biden Administration. And you have to wonder if americas adversaries are saying, this is exactly what we want. And youre seeing not just former officials, but current officials speaking out. Chris krebs calling on people to ignore wild and baseless claims, even if theyre made by the president. Saying theres no evidence there were any deleted or lost votes or that it was in any way compromised. What is the significance of a current official directly rebuking the president on this issue . Look, this was the most secure election that weve ever had. The great men and women at sisa, and the intelligence and military community worked for the last four years to make sure that every vote would be protected, and that we could have confidence in the election system. What youre seeing out of dhs and sisa is a continuation of that mission they took on four years ago to make sure that the American People have the facts. Youre seeing Public Servants committed to making sure that americans have the truth. But as john just mentioned, were living in a very polarized time, where people are operating from different sets of facts. And its not exactly clear that by having a federal agency come out and say this, that the sides that are supporting trump would actually believe it. Its the right thing to do, its hard to see if that will have much of an effect. And olivia, six days ago, the u. S. Surpassed 10 million cases of covid, today its 11 million. You worked closely with Vice President pence on the white house Coronavirus Task force. How might the fact that trump is blocking the transition impact the spiraling Health Crisis . I think it has a significant impact. They need to understand really what is going on behind the scenes, the data. And we need to be looking forward. Because today we have the highest case numbers right now happening, but theyll continue to increase, and people will continue to die. And its so upsetting, especially for me, who is watching my hometown of el paso, im here right now, and watching the white house continuously play politics over lives, again and again and again. Its just so upsetting. And they should just do the right thing and support the biden transition, get the experts the information, and get them talking together so we can protect our american citizens. Because this virus is real. And its spreading. And were in a really bad situation. Yeah, thats just the reality. You look at the numbers, its just the numbers. That tells you the truth. Where we are with this virus. And john, i hinted at this before we were talking, but its not just the fact that trump is refusing to concede to joe biden, hes denying him access to classified briefings. Since monday, four Senior Defense officials have been fired. How does that make america more vulnerable to threats . Its the obligation and authority of the administrator of General Services to ascertain the identity of the apparent incoming president and Vice President. It doesnt require absolute certainty, and its outrageous that the Biden Administration is being completely denied access to information which is bringing in the transition to a standstill. That information is absolutely critical for the incoming administration, to do what they need to do. They need the information, the resources, the office space, and the access to the president s daily briefings and the classified information. Without that, our National Security is absolutely impaired. The Bush Administration started off at an disadvantage because of the delay to their transition, because of the florida issue. And the bottom line is, every minute that the biden harris transition is delayed creates further risk to our National Security. And emily murphy must ascertain that joe biden and Kamala Harris are the president elect and Vice President elect immediately. I want to go to you, olivia, on that. The white house is saying, look, everything is publicly available. Were asking about the D Distribution plans for the vaccine. Thats publicly available. What is your reaction . Thats ludicrous. What needs to be happening, the biden team needs to be briefed on what worked, what didnt work in the past. And they have experts there. I was on the task force. I know numerous situations that should have been implemented that werent. And so do those other experts. And they need to be talking to them and briefing them on plans that were never implemented because the president and his circle of influence blocked them from happening. And thats