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And the candidates are not taking any vote for granted. They spent the eve of the caucuses trying to keep their supporters roused. Im asking you to caucus for me tomorrow night. Because if you caucus for me and im our nominee, i will unite the conservative movement. Were having a very spirited nominating contest, but wed better come together. We cannot win if were divided. If every man and woman here makes sure that nine other people come and caucus tomorrow night at 7 00 p. M. , together we will win the Iowa Caucuses. We will win the nomination. And we will win the general election. We will defeat Hillary Clinton and turn this country around in iowa. Ready . You have a lousy record. 16 years and you havent picked a winner. Please pick a winner this time. Okay . Im going to win. Im going to win. Gop candidates doing what they can to keep that excitement high. Lets take a look at the other side. It is even technically a closer race for the democrats. In the latest poll Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders by just three points. Well within the polls margin of error. Basically, were looking at a dead heat here. And thats got both Democratic Candidates stumping hard for support from every possible voter. We are getting down to the last hours. Those of you who have already decided to support me, i thank you from the bottom of my heart. I will do everything i can to make sure that your faith in me and the campaign we run will reflect the values and the vision that we share for our country. For those of you still thinking about this, weighing your options, i hope ill be able to persuade you. We win when working people and young people and lowincome people and elderly people go to the polls. And i think it is fair to say that any objective assessment of secretary Clintons Campaign and my campaign, and she has some really good people so, im not knocking them, but i think the excitement and the energy is with our campaign. Mark preston joins us from des moines, iowa. Good to have you with us. We are just hours away from the Iowa Caucuses. Tension obviously mounting. As republican candidates make their final push, are they saying anything new, anything different to sway those undecided voters . Well, you know, isha, what theyring do on the republican side is the race is now between just two people, donald trump and ted cruz. And theyre making a push for the evangelical vote. Evangelicals here in iowa are very influential in this caucus process. So weve seen donald Trump Campaigning with Jerry Falwell jr. He is the head of the Largest Christian University here in the United States. At the same time you have ted cruz crisscrossing the state as well. At his side is glenn beck, the radio host. So yes, they are making a hard push right now. They know that a win here in iowa would be instrumental as we head into New Hampshire next week and really could start to help define this race that has been so wide open. Mark, as you well know, in these final hours weve seen the attacks between ted cruz and donald trump ratchet up and getting quite pointed and nasty. Im wondering how this is playing with iowa voters, especially those evangelicals you just were talking about. Well, isha, i think theyre used to it because really politics here in iowa is very much like sport. It really is beat them up and try to win. And i think thats what weve seen over the past few months and certainly in the past few days here in des moines. Now, i will add to that, though, that donald trump phenomenon is something weve never seen before. Something where donald trump has gone out and has questioned whether ted cruz can actually run for president. Those kind of attacks we havent seen in the past. And in many ways they might have worked over the past few weeks where we saw ted cruz tick down a little bit. But the Ted Cruz Campaign organization will tell you that they have a get out organization, a get out the Vote Organization that is really superior. So the big question as we head into tomorrow, will the big rallies, the people who show up for ted for donald trump to see him speak, will they come out to vote . We dont know that. Ted cruz says he can get those people to the caucus sites. So well see this tomorrow evening, whether thats true. And that being said, that very point as to whether donald Trump Supporters at these rallies actually make it to caucus for him, donald trump saying earlier on sunday that he didnt have to win iowa. Is that perhaps pointing to some doubt about turnout among his supporters . Well, its called the expectations game because if he is out now saying that he is going to win iowa and he loses, that will be a problem for donald trump. Having said that, heading into New Hampshire right now, donald trump is so far ahead of the rest of the pack that he is doing so well there a victory here for him in iowa would be amazing for him because he would expect to win New Hampshire as well. Now, what ted cruz is trying to do is to try to stunt any kind of acceleration that donald trump could get out of iowa with an iowa win. If cruz wins here be, the race will be turned on its head again. And again, a reformulation as we head into tuesday, isha. Turning to the democratic side of things, mark, polls showing a really tight race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. How have they used these final hours . Theyre doing get out the vote rallies, huge rallies. They spent a lot of time on the eastern part of the state of iowa. The reason being, ishas theres a lot of democratic voters on that side. We saw that happen yesterday. Now what theyre trying to do is do their best at selling the message. Hillary clinton trying to tell the voters not only will she be a fighter for them but she has the most experience. At the same time Bernie Sanders really, really revving up the idea that there needs to be a Political Revolution and he is the one that will fight for the middle class. Very similar strategies in trying to rally their caucusgoers. But i have to tell you, Hillary Clinton has older voters on her side. Folks who routinely caucus for Bernie Sanders to win here in iowa, which very well could happen, hes going to need a very strong turnout amongst College Students, College Students who are rallying around his candidacy. So well see if theyll actually leave their dorm rooms to come out and caucus for Bernie Sanders, isha. Yeah. And the point has to be made that Hillary Clinton and her organization have been in this game since 2008. Theyve got a pretty deep organization, pretty well set up. And this is going to be a really big test for them. It absolutely will be. Now, a lawsuit for Hillary Clinton could hurt her. Certainly will not be devastating. Dont let anybody say that. As you said she not only has an organization here in iowa but she has one built across the country. But heading into New Hampshire right now a new cnn poll shows that in fact Bernie Sanders is so far ahead of of Hillary Clinton. But again, a clinton victory tomorrow night if that were to happen could change the dynamics of this race heading into New Hampshire. Thats what makes it so exciting. Were not only seeing a battle for the republican nomination, were also seeing a battle for the democratic nomination. It really is amazing whats going on, isha. It really is. Youre going to have a very busy monday night, mark preston. I think you should go to bed right now so you can stock up on sleep. We look forward tult great analysis in the hours ahead. Thanks so much. Well, joining me now to talk about the president ial candidates and the Iowa Caucuses, two very, very wise men. Republican consultant john thomas and democratic strategist dave jacobson. Ive given you a very big billing. So im expecting you to deliver. John, to start with you. The race on the gop side essentially down to cruz and trump. Help our viewers in the United States and around the world really get a sense of what victory for the respective campaigns would mean because it means Different Things to each campaign. It does. And it depends who you are. If youre donald trump you need to win iowa. Hes probably going to win iowa. And its important because trumps pretty much sole justification for why hes going to be president is because hes been number one in the polls. And if in the first state he doesnt become number one then it casts into question can he actually win it . He has to come out strong. But even tonight we saw a shift in his campaigning where hes starting to manage expectations saying, well, its not fatal if i dont win. I think the Trump Campaigns feeling very good. But you just never know. And so theyre managing expectations. The Cruz Campaign has had a string of bad news over the last few weeks and quite frankly theyve been outcampaigned by donald trump time in and time out. And the problem was cruz said a couple weeks ago that he was going to come in first place. And now that he doesnt that is a devastating blow to ted cruz. You said hes ruined the expectations. He has. Hes completely messed it up and hes not going to win New Hampshire. On the flip side real quick, if donald trump does prevail tomorrow night and does triumph its going to create a domino effect for all these other states and he could theoretically lock up the nomination if he does a huge victory tomorrow, that propels him with some more momentum to New Hampshire. He could lock up nevada, south carolina, and ultimately the nomination right around super tuesday. Ive got to ask you what you make of this from the democratic side of things. As you watch the gop race and you look at iowa, iowa with evangelical voters and trump leading the pack. I mean, how do you wrap your head around this . How do you make sense of this . What does it say about America Today . I think people are frustrated. Theyre angry. Theyre looking for someone whos going to represent sort of the antiestablishment, the antistatus quo. Youre seeing them on the left with Bernie Sanders and on the right with donald trump. The question is is that going to translate into votes at caucus night tomorrow . Yeah. I think people have been saying how is donald trump winning over evangelicals over ted cruz . Ted cruzs father is a faster. I think evangelical dont vote strictly on religion. Of course youve got to check that box and donald trump did that a week or so by giving a speech and butchered it a little bit. But did it enough. But the fact is evangelicals are angry as anybody else and donald trump has been able to capture that anger. I think also real quick i think people are looking for someone to speak truth to power. Right . Strength. Auth authentici authenticity. Right. Thish of strength is coming up. And as you said its not just religious issues, its the issue of strength and projecting that truth to power. Dave, i want to ask you about the democrats now and this Enthusiasm Gap between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. And what that means for monday night. I think its genuinely like a battle royal between the two campaigns. I think its really going to come down to turnout and ground operations. The higher turnout with unlikely voters, folks who havent caucused in the past, young people, College Students, thats going to bode well for Bernie Sanders. On the other hand youve got a big storm on the way and people who normally dont caucus, who dont have the experience of actually going and sitting there and participating in the process for several hours, they may not turn out and that could bode well for Hillary Clinton. The hardcore caucusgoers, people who are older, who participated in this process before, those are going to turn out for hillary. On the republican side to look at the democratic side and say the fact is Hillary Clinton should be winning. She should be walking away with this thing. But shes potentially going to be indicted. There may be another candidate like a Michael Bloomberg thats getting in. I think Bernie Sanders rise is not just because of the messaging. I think its because they dont like hillary. But the sad thing is for the democrats is they still may get hillary and that doesnt bode well for them in november. What do you make of that, dave . Its about them not liking hillary. I think its the honesty factor, the authenticity factor. Thats why you have hillary saying we want more debates, more town halls. Shes introducing her in a different light than on the campaign trail, the stage and accomplished. You have an interactive authentic hillary at these dates debates and thats why her campaigns salivating for more. Its problematic for hillary because still the majority of americans, both democrats and republicans say they dont trust Hillary Clinton. Authenticity keeps coming up time and time again for Hillary Clinton. Have to ask you gentlemen as a parting shot what will you be looking out for as the results start to come in from iowa late monday night . I think for me donald trump, obviously is he going to take it . It looks like he is going to but thats not what im interested in. Im interested in marco rubio because if he comes in third and he sneaks out a second or comes in a tight third, all of a sudden marcos the story. Everybody knew donald trump was top of the pack but marcos peaking or surging at the right time. Ill be interested to see if marcos supporters realize they can make the difference tomorrow. Marco could then go from he has that three, two, one strategy. That could be well executed. He could become the antitrump and could start tomorrow night. Which is this point that a second place for cruz could be worse than a third place for rubio. Exactly. Dave, what will you be looking for . On the democratic side i think its a function of what turnouts going to be. If youre going to see 200,000 sort oft bama surge caucusgoer number we saw, 2008, i think thats going to translate into a possible victory for Bernie Sanders. The other question is whether or not these College Students who are sort of closely located in dense populations where youve got big populations did they go out to the Rural Communities where their parents are and caulk snus if they do and they turn out, that could translate into a victory for bernie. If they dont, if they stay home i think hillary wins. If hillary wins iowa its a big blow to Bernie Sanders. Its going to be a very, very interesting night. Cnn will have all the drama, all the action. So keep it here with us. Gentlemen, thank you as always. Very, very wise. And you lived up to the billing. Thank you. Time for a quick break. Straight ahead, more on the political heat in iowa with voters getting phone calls and door knocks from the campaigns eager to get them to the caucuses. After the break, how voters are responding to all this attention. Plus, the curious way the caucus differs from a primary. Well show you what happens when they close the doors to vote. 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