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CNNW CNN Newsroom Live July 9, 2017

It is 5 00 a. M. On the u. S. East coast, noon in damascus where a ceasefire is set to start right now. This the result of a deal that was reached bri the u. S. President and his russian counterpart. This happened on on the sidelines of the g20 friday. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov say the two countries promised to ensure that all groups comply. Following this story, we go live to jordan. We know that its taking effect right now. What does this mean for people there on the ground . Reporter well, i think we have to wait and see. Everyone really is waiting and seeing how different this is and if it is different to previous ceasefires we have seen in the syrian conflict. Youve had ceasefires come and go and sometimes syrians would tell you that the violence that comes after a ceasefire is much worse than the one that preceded it. So everyone will see if that means that guns will fall silent. This is a part of the country where violence has been raging in recent months. Weve seen a regime offensive at the border with jordan where Regime Forces and allied militias have been taking territory from the Free Syrian Army rebels a s in that part of done. And just to put it in context, this ceasefire that is meant to go into effect is the product of an agreement as you mentioned between jordan, russia and the United States. They have been working on this for a few months behind closed doors, gosh dwrapgss to reach a deescalation zone agreement whereby they create this deescalation zone in southwestern syria. And the first key part of this agreement will be a ceasefire that has just begun at noon local time that will set this create this environment where they can go forward and create the deescalation zone. Now, there are a few Critical Issues that they still need to iron out, that is the enforcement mechanism and the monitoring of this cease fire and how that is going to happen perhaps according to u. S. Official that we will be see something sort seeing some sort of a Monitoring Force on the ground. Agreeing on that force of course still a lot of work ahead for those involved in these negotiations. And this is a part of the country where it is not just Regime Forces and rebels. You have different parties, different groups. And while the United States, jordan and russia have a great amount of influence when it comes to key players in that part of the conflict, there are still others that are not signatories to this deal including extremist groups like an isis affiliate that operates in that border region between jordan, syria and israel. So there are possibilities for so much going wrong still. We have to wait and see what happens in the coming hours. So its the Ceasefire Holding that will be critical. And we have yet to see how this plays out. But just from your reporting, your experience covering this, we do know what its like for People Living in that situation, the hell that they undergo each day. Help our viewers to understand what its like for life for many of these people in this part of the world. Reporter well, you ever people who are trapped in this conflict for years now. The regime offensive means heavy fighting and people are trapped, children at times are the victims of the violence. Whether its the indiscriminate barrel bombs, air strikes, the crossfire when you have different groups fighting around civilian areas. And also another critical part of this is humanitarian aid. When youre talking about intense fighting, be its veit difficult for aid groups to deliver the much needed aid. I remember a year ago speaking to a syrian rebel and i asked him what was it that people needed the most when youre talking about humanitarian aid and he said it is something to basic as infant formula and diapers for children that they cannot find and that they really need. So just gives you a glimpse into how difficult life is for people who are trapped in this conflict with no end in sight really and of course there is a bit of cautious optimism today that this cease fire may be the start of something, but again he, there is also a lot of skepticism in syria as people have seen the ceasefires come and go in the past. Cautious optimism. Its 12 05. The ceasefire just taking effect for our viewers joining us in the u. S. And around the world in the southwest part of syria. Jomana karedsheh, thank you for the reporting. Lets get an analysis from a Research Fellow in military science. Its good to have you with us, justin. Lets talk about the ceasefire. With regards to the full picture of syria, given the complexity of the many different conflicts in that country, different regions require different things, does this make a major difference . Well, i think this will make a major difference particularly for jordan given the extreme problems they have with housing very large numbers of refugees and with ensuring border security. And its certainly i think useful for donald trump domestically to be able to say that hes brokered some sort of ceasefire. But of course as you mentioned, this is southwest syria that is lot of fighting is going on elsewhere in the country and the compliance of the Syrian Regime as well as the various extremist forces which also operate in the region as was mentioned will be critical to seeing how much difference this actually makes on the ground. I think geopolitically this should rightly be seen as a victory for russia because the fact that this is an agreement between the u. S. And russia specifically in effect legitimizes a lot of the gains which the Syrian Regime has made since the russian intervention a few years ago during which time they have pushed back what has been known as the sort of moderate rebel forces from large parts of syria. So having a ceasefire deal if it holds particularly between the u. S. And russia which includes a lot of those gains should i think be seen as a win for Vladimir Putin. And russia even making the pint that russian officials there on the ground, that they will be supervising in concert with american and Jordanian Forces there on the ground. So as you point out, this is a very important distinction for russia in this agreement. But lets talk about the humanitarian situation there. I just spoke with jomana karedsheh about this and weve been covering it for so long now. And we just talk about the many lives and many people caught in the middle of this. What is the humanitarian situation like right now for people there . The humanitarian situation in large parts of syria is almost unrecognizable in terms of its desperate nature compared to almost anywhere else in the world even iraq for example where there is a large amount of fighting in various parts. You dont see anything like the same destruction in terms of infrastructure, roads, hospitals, schools, all of this. So any opportunity to get more aid into those affected communities in southwestern syria will have a huge impact on peoples lives there. Particularly given the roads are heavily mined in many cases and also very badly damaged, the ability for aid groups for example to fly in aid to particularly isolated sdri e destroyed communities by a helicopter which previously was very difficult, not say impossible under most circumstances because of the threat to those aircraft, this is part of the country which is contested between syria Regime Forces which have access to defense equipment as well as u. S. Backed forces. So the ability to operate helicopters and things to bring in aid to communities that cant easily be reached on the ground without fear of those being shot down will hopefully make a big difference to people on the ground. That will be interesting to see. But here is one other question to you because weve covered so manile of these ceasefires in syria. What make this is one different than others . I think what makes this one different is that its brokered between the u. S. And russia directly and it doesnt involve the Syrian Regime. So rather than cease fires which weve seen between in effect the Syrian Regime and rebel forces particularly around besieged cities which usually are part of some sort of evacuation or zurn surrender deal too give people pass think a out to various areas, this is potentially one that could be more enforced by the International Community on both sides from the get go. The issue of course is that the u. S. And russia have very different ext different strategic aims and there are limited means by which the International Community can enforce a ceasefire if various rebel groups and extremist groups or indeed the Syrian Regime choose to try to make gains without putting Ground Troops in, which is something that i think both sides are loath to escalate their involvement already in syria. Its going to be quite difficult to enforce that ceasefire if sides start to break it. Justin, thank you so much again for your insight. Were ten minutes in to the ceasefire and appreciate your analysis today. The u. S. President donald trump is back in washington, d. C. After the g20 summit. Earlier, he called his meeting with the russian president Vladimir Putin tremendous and were also hearing from mr. Putin himself. We get more now from our International Diplomatic editor nic robertson. Reporter president putin in his press conference said that he thinks that President Trump accepted his answer, but he said you would actually have to ask him. But what was fascinating is the importance that president putin put in the ceasefire that he said that the United States gives support for in the southwest part of syria. He seemed to to think this was a big deal, that it had been overlooked. But he also had another headline in his press conference there, that he feels that the United States is taking a much more pragmatic approach in syria to the point of being willing to pool resources. Thats what he said, pool resources in syria. And that perhaps stronger language than a we head from secretary of state tillerson when he was describing how the meeting had gone between the two president s on saturday. But for putins point of view, clearly feeling in the driving seat on syria, clearly feeling that he now has buyin at least from the United States, from President Trump, who he said by the way was a different person behind closed doors than what you may see in public. But it was left to Angela Merkel here to really sort of sum up what was achieved at the f 20gn the final communique. In trade, she was clear that it was a fight against protectionism and a fight against unfair trade. Now, that is something that she has conceived in advance of this summit as the United States really being against free trade and more for protectionism. So this leaves the United States something as an outlier on globalization, too, she has been very clear she feels that the United States on globalization is sort of out of step, that it would rather see winners and losers, that it is okay for the bosses to profit but shes always talked about a win win situation. So on globalization, she was clear they have agreed that everyone should benefit from globalization. On steel, a big concern going into this summit that on steel, there could be tariffs or quotas imposed by the United States, this could lead to a trade war, a global trade war. And that seems to have been headed off. There will be a commission that will look at the global steel trade that will report in november. So that issue seems to be headed off. But she had the bigge egest criticism for President Trump and the United States on the issue of Climate Change. She said it was deplorable that the United States is pulling out of the paris Climate Change accord. So at the end of the g20, it leaves Angela Merkel as a central figure here and the United States President Trump for the first time in many, many years looking as something of a outlier, not agreeing with so many of the other nations on some of the big issues, trade and Climate Change. Nic robertson, cnn, hamburg, germany. President trump has not spoken out himself about the differing accounts of his meeting with president putin and whether he accepted the russian leaders denial of any meddling in the 2016 u. S. Election. But his treasury secretary did respond to a reporter above air force one with this answer . Another country making a statement about the president of the United States. Do you not want to respond to that and correct the record if it is wrong . I wont make comments about what other people say. President trump will be happy to make statements himself about that. But president handled himself brilliantly. It was very clear he practice h made his position felt and after very substantive dialogue, they agreed to move on to other discussions and i think its very clear that they opened a dialogue. And as i said, they focused on a ceasefire in syria, making sure that we have a cyber unit to make sure that russia and nobody else interferes in any democratic elections are and we focus on the issue of north korea which is a major concern to us and all our other allies. The u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Nikki haley is also talking about President Trumps insistence that moscow did not interfere in last years election. She told dana bash that russia is trying to cause chaos through such hacking, but she also defended President Trumps response to the russian leader. Listen. I think president putin did exactly what we thought he would do, which is deny it. So this is russia trying to save face and they cant. Everybody knows that russia meddled in our elections. Why wont the president say this in public . It would put a lot of these questions and frankly the fact that a lot of your fellow republicans are perplexed, it would put it all to rest. Why wont he do it . I think that you can ask him. Everybody is trying to nitpick what he says and what he doesnt. But talk is one thing, actions are another. He confronted president putin. He made it the first thing that he talked about and i think we have to now see where are it goes from here. You can hear more of ambassador haleys interview on state of the union in four hours time from right now. The u. S. President s top diplomat is presently in ukraine. This is rex are tillerstillerso official visit to that country. He is set to meet with president poroshenko soon. The state Department Says mr. Tillerson intends to reof affirm americas commitment to sovereignty. Ivan watson is live for us in moscow following this. And ivan, what can we expect from this meeting . Reporter women well, just two days ago, he was in a lengthy meeting with trump and putin and lavrov. And now hes about to sits down with poroshenko, the ukrainian president. This is significant because ukraine views itself to be effectively at war with russia ever since the invasion, occupation and annex saying of the ukranian peninsula of crimea in 2014. And ukraine has been at war with russiabacked separatists now in a conflict that claimed more than 10,000 lives and left countless more homeless. So its going to be important from the ukranian perspective to be reassured that a warming of ties between the leader of its archenemy and the u. S. Does not mean that ukraine will be left out in the cold, that its interests will be ignored. And the ukranians have made a point of pointing out that president poroshenko was in washington on on jujune 20th an have a facetoface meeting with President Trump ahead of this much anticipated and historic meeting with president putin in hamburg. Now, coming out of the putin trump meeting, the u. S. Administration announced that it was appointing a special envoy to deal with the ukranian crisis and that is former u. S. Ambassador to nato kurt volcker and he is accompanying tillerson on this visit to kiev which will only actually last a few hours. Im curious to ask you what has been the response there in russia, in russian a media, with regard to the g20 summit, this meeting between the two president s and what are we hearing from president putin himself about meeting President Donald Trump . Reporter i think the russians were delighted by this meeting. Senior lawmakers called it a breakthrough. Russian state media arguing that the facetoface meeting between trump and putin eclipsed the entire g20. And president putin himself looked pretty pleased when he gave his lengthy press conference in front of cameras on saturday in about front of the international media. And he heralded this meeting as well. You havent had a u. S. And russian president meet facetoface in nearly two years and President Trump putin rather when speaking to journ up journalists, he shared unusual observations about what he thought of his american counterpart. That a listen. Translator tv trump is different from the real person. He is absolutely specific, absolutely adequate in the perception of the dialogue partner, he analyzes things quickly, replies to the raised questions or new evidence in the conversation. I think if our on future relations will unfold the same way as our meeting yesterday, there is every reason to believe that we

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