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CNNW CNN Newsroom Live March 16, 2019

Grips of shock and horror. At least 49 people are dead and dozens more wounded and at last check 39 people remain in hospital. 11 of those in intensive care. The wounded range in age of twoyearsold to some in their 60s. As for the man suspectled of attacking these worshippers. He appeared in court saturday there. Brendan tarrant smirked as he was filed with murder. Tarrant will remain behind bars until his next court appearance. Police are trying to determine if they were directly involved in the massacre. Also, here in this video, you see the moment the suspect was taken into custody. Police say tarrant resisted arrest, that he also had explosives in his vehicle and that officers put themselves in great danger in keeping the community safe. The Prime Minister of new zealand gave more details about that arrest. I want to acknowledge profusely the Police Responded immediately to the call that they received relating to the attack. The individual charged was in custody 36 minutes from receiving the first call. The offender was mobile. There were two other firearms in the vehicle that the offender was in and it absolutely was his intention to continue with his attack. We are also learning a bit more about some of the victims. The Jordanian Foreign Ministry Says at least three of its ministry were killed and four others wound. A 5yearold jordanian girl was critically injured and has undergone surgery. And one was an asylum seeker. He was apparently running ten minutes late for service and the attack was going on when he arrived at the mosque. Cnn is live in new zealand. Our Senior International correspondent ivan watson again leading our coverage outside the hospital there in Christs Church, ivan. Reporter thank you, job. It is just after 10 00 p. M. Here in Christs Church. Now, the authorities were urging residents of this city to stay indoors as of this morning as an extra security precaution. Theyve extended that to mosques across the country, urging them to stay closed for fear they could be targeted as well, as a first time visitor to this city, it is a relatively small city, a population under 400,000. The streets seem to be fairly quiet and it is eerie considering some of the eyewitness accounts of some of them seeing the actual gunman in the street with his weapons. It is eerie to imagine him in the streets of the city operating so openly and potentially taking so many lives. Many more wounded, some of them fighting for their lives in Christs Church hospital. In the minutes and hours after the attack first took place, the new Zealand Police were issuing messages to the community tryings to protect people and assure them they are working on trying to catch any of the suspected terrorists behind this attack. Take a listen. As a muslim and as a leader in the new zealand place, i am horrified about the events that unfolded in Christs Church yesterday. I want our muslim and cross Church Community and brothers and sisters to know we share your grief and we are here to continue to support you throughout this heart breaking time. Reporter now, there have been condemnations pouring in from around the world about these deadly terrorist attacks and as well as expressions of sympathy for the many victims. The growing list of victims, in fact. Joining me now from the United Kingdom is the National Counsellor from the Muslim Council of britain and the cochair of stand up to racism. So a question to you now, these attacks were carried out in two mosque, two places of worship during muslim, friday muslim prayers. By some accounts, a gunman opening fire on worshipers as they were quite literally kneeling in prayer. It must be an absolute nightmare to fellow muslims around the world. Your thoughts. Absolutely. I mean, this terrorist attack would shock anybody, a premeditated planned attack aimed at people when they would be engaged into devotion to our god. For ittotake placeinnew zealand makes it all the more worse, because when you think of new zealand, you do not think of a country where Something Like this could ever happen. But some will say that it wasnt entirely surprising. The place may be, the timing may be but there has been a growing empty muslim sentiment in many countries in the western world and the attacker made it known as to what his motives were and why he targeted these people. And you are referring to this key suspect brendan tarrant, a 28yearold australian. He was arrested on friday, brought to a court here in Christs Church on saturday and charged with murder. He has been linked to some extremist right wing commentaries, a rambling manifesto that did seem to espouse islamophobia. So a question to you, sir, do you see islamophobia, do you see this kind of ideology growing in the United Kingdom, in other countries . Yes, well, absolutely. I think throughout the western world, we have seen a rise of antimuslim hatred and islamophobia. This is not about ideas and ideals of islam. They seem to see them as the other, not belonging to these societies and so when you look at the popular narrative, even we can among some main stream politicians, we see most muslims are spoken of as the other, the people that needs to be contained thai their freedoms carteled in many respects. So the question we need to ask is when are we going to take any kind of singling of any people, in this case muslims, when any group of people is spoken as the other, in a delegatory or in a manner and simply because of who they are. Not because of the ideas and ideals, but simply because of their faith or their race or because of their sexual orientation, whenever a group of people are marginalized or spoken in delegatory terms, we have to take them head on. For two long when it came to muslims, we did not see that happen. And what measures would you like people to take who may be deeply disturbedab about this attack to challenge the kind of ideology that may have, in fact, inspired it . I think muslims around the world, muslims in the uk for example will be anxious for seeing what happened in Christs Church. Because the views espoused is not uncommon. A significant have a minority. There are a number that esuppose this in the uk. I am looking to see governments, society and main stream politicians taking concrete steps to reassure Muslim Community and other community that find themselves in those positions. So to give you an example, i would have expected the british Prime Minister, for example to visit a place of worship or Muslim Institution to show our solidarity, which hasnt happened. In the same way, i would want to see that in a government taking more drastic measures. So, for example, in this case, the suspect was not known to the police before, was not really weak in the radar, the security services. But i think thats not because he had no previous trouble. Its simply because the views he esupposed for too long were not taken seriously and were not seen as a threat. I think it is about time that governments around the world, especially in the western world, start taking aint muslim far more seriously and as a genuine threat. All right. Thank you for speaking to us live from the uk. Thank you very much for your insight there. And i do have to say that one of the precautions that the new Zealand Police have issued was from mosques to close their doors in the wake of fridays deadly attacks here in new zealand again to protect them in case they could once again be targeted and weve seen in the local media here in new zealand that churches, for example, some churches have opened their doors to muslims and members of other faiths offering people a place for worship and contemplation in the wake of these deadly terrorist attacks. Turning back to my colleague George Howell. Keeping in mind, social media was certainly a part of the attack in Christs Church before even during the mass shooting. So what can and cant be done to keep hate off those social networks . Well look into that for you. Also the singing, the prayers and the many tears. Our coverage continues from new zealand right after the break. About 50 of people with evesevere asthma k . Have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. 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New zealands Prime Minister says extra Police Officers have been assigned to help recover the bodies and to process the crime scene with care and sensitive toy Islamic Culture and customs. Our ian watson is live in Christs Church new zealand just outside the hospital. Ivan. Reporter thank you, george. You know, it is islamic tradition in the middle east across central asia to burying someone on the day of their passing. That has not been the case here as of this morning. The new zealand Prime Minister said that they were working to remove some of the victims bodies from the mosque where they were gunned down to give you an indicator of how difficult and challenging this process and investigation has been. Agony for the relatives of the victims here. Now, politicians are asking for social media to do more to stop extremism on their sites in the wake of this terrorist attack. Facebook for its part says it already polices its platform. But video of the shooters attack it actually stayed online for hours before it was pulled down on other sites. S samuel burke has more on this from london. Reporter it is truly a vicious cycle. Not only was the attacker evident to the manifesto on twitter, the fact that a body camera was used live on facebook shows social media was a part of the attackers planning. Facebook says it quickly took down the original video. We dont know if it was during the 17 minutes broadcast live on facebook or a long time after it was available for many to see. Plus many, many hours after the attack, the video could still be found on many major social media platforms. In fact, it was shared with a twitter account with nearly 700,000 followers. You will hear people say dont share the video online. Even watching it spreads the reporting on the internet because algorithms count how many are watching and show it to more and more users. And it is troubling that some tv news outlets even showed the raw video that confuses the algorithms, which should be automatically taking it down once its flagged because when it sees logos or news graphics from news organizations, this says this could be something journalistically sound. So we have to wait for a mu man moderate tore to fake i take it away. If you look at this, it warns about graphic content. It has a video button that says uncover to see it. Facebook says new Zealand Police alerted us to a video on facebook shortly after the live stream expensed. We quickly removed both the shooters accounts. We are removing any praise or support for the crime and the shooter or shooters as soon as we are aware. Clearly not fast enough on a platform with billions of users and becomes in revenue. Im samuel burke, back to you. All right. And now im going to go to brett lee. Hes a Cyber Security consultant and the founder of internet safe education coming to us live from brisbane, australia. Thank you for joining me, brett. This question, how do you police the internet . How do you sensor social media when there are simply to many users online, what is your reaction to what the big social media site versus said in the wake of this terrorist attack . I think its another timely reminder. We have been through this before many times. Look, its not only the amount of people, its the Business Model and we will talk there for you, the last presenter. Its the Business Model whereby ultimately theyre a corporation, no matter which platform it is, particularly the major ones. They exist to make money. So its going to be impossible for them to introduce identity verification, to actually physically monitor and monitor content that hits the internet. For instance, there is approximately 300 hours of Youtube Video uploaded every minute. Now, thats not going to be ever monitored by human beings, and as we have seen the algorithms are good. I think weve seen in the past these Major Companies that have sort of slipped under the radar and it takes instances like this to highlight the deficiencies, whereby they have been answerable to nobody. So, really, until something happens, every decision they make is or know that governments and communities are rallying together to make these companies more accountable. It is about the amount of information being shared, which becomes advertising space and, unfortunately, being a corporation that will probably always be the main focus and you know in their defense, i certainly dont think theyve set things up to purposely cause issues for problems within the world. Theyre certainly not there to as they used to say make the world a better place. Yeah, you know, brett, terrorists by their very nature is theyre trying to create a sensation. Theyre trying there is incredible symbolism when they carry out their acts of violence. We saw isis using the internet to spread their violence and images that, frankly, shocked the world and now this suspected right wing terrorist appeared to have done something quite similar. Is this the paradigm for acts of Political Violence going into the future . Their shocking and, franksly, te deeply disturbing images . Reporter its a very powerful and effective too many. Because it reaches so many people. You know, the internet hale really brought all aspects of their world towing in a split second. In that video, the footage shown of the tragic incidents that who kurd in new zealand that will be out there forever now. Facebook can go and close accounts, they can take things down, there will be multiple copies of that potentially that can be shared for all of time. So, for turn of a better phrase, the damage is already done. Now, i believe and from my experience, ive arrested a lot of people for doing the wrong thing on the internet. But the vast majority of people use it for good. But the other side to that is and the price we pay is that it can be used for grievances as well. So its always going to be a balance. I think its going to be incredibly difficult to wind it back much now to make a big difference. Look, maybe im wrong. I cant predict the future. But we have created i suppose a bit of a beast that you know is there for the use of people who do want to spread these messages of hate. So, yeah. Reporter your words a bit of a beast. Now, you studied this field, how quickly did you start to see the suspects images start to spread out on social media on friday . Almost instantly. I was actually working down in melbourne and i think it was a number of acts on my phone, it was actually pushed to me. Its not only the fact that i was able get access to it. It was virtually pushed to me. It was in my pocket. So as i pulled it out, i was being exposed to this content. A lot of the people in the world would be exposed to. Reporter all right, a very chilling scenario. Thank you for sharing your site from brisbane, security expert, excuse me, i almost dropped my notes here. Thank you for your insights here. Again, while social media and the internet can be used to spread images of terror and violence, they have also been used to spread messages of support and love and unity here in new zealand and around the world in the wake of these deadly terrorist attacks. George, back to you at the cnn center. Ivan, there are a look another people coming together. We saw those messages have so important given what happened there. In the wake of the attacks in new zealand, the u. S. President donald trump down played the global threat of White Nationalists even after it was revealed that the suspect, the gunman apparently held white supremacist views. The president was asked about the attacks as he issued the first veto of his presidency. Our jim acosta has this. Reporter surrounded by supporters, the presiden

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