Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera 20171118

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera November 18, 2017

Most recently, a woman who says moore grabbed him and put his hands on her body without her consent. People in alabama who support roy moore dont appear to be swayed in large numbers by these accusations, they blame the media and Establishment Republicans for spreading lies. Lets go to the white house now and correspondent boris sanchez. Boris, President Trump called out a sitting democratic senator by name of a shauchexual harass charges came out about him, al franken, but hes handled this roy moore question differently, even ignoring it. How do white house insiders explain the silence . Reporter well, a republican source to the white house told cnn earlier this week that the president was apprehensive about getting involved in a conversation regarding the insexual contact accusations levied against roy moore, in part because of his own allegations and controversies in the past. The president specifically did not want to get dragged into a conversation about his own being a could you seers. Its important though to go over the time line here. Because the accusations against roy moore came out more than a week ago. The white house the president was actually on that 12 day trip to asia and there was an initial statement that was put out saying that if these allegations were true, then roy moore should drop out of the race. At one point during a get and answer session with reporters on air force one, the president said that he hadnt had enough time to goat to this controversy. That was days ago. Since then more and more women have come out making these allegations against roy moore, and Sarah Sanders twice now at the podium in the white house has tried to answer whether or not the president believes these women, but there hasnt been a definitive answer from the white house. Instead, she said that the president believes that these allegations are troubling and that voters in alabama should decide who they believe. Ultimately the white house is making the case that they have said enough about the allegations against roy amoore. Here is some of what Sarah Sanders said yesterday. Some critics have said that was critical to tweet about al language franken and not error moore. He has. He did it while he was in asia and i did it repeatedly. I took 15 questions on that topic and only on one onle a franken. So to specific that this president hasnt weighed this is inaccurate and wrong. He weighed in. He said if the allegations are true, he should step aside. He also weighed in when he supported the rncs decision to withdraw resources from the state of alabama. Just simply inaccurate statement to make about the president. Reporter so the white house has weighed in, but they havent given a definitive yes or no answer as to whether or not the president believes these women. You did point out previously that the president tweeted about the accusation against al franken. Sarah sanders was asked about that, she was asked specifically what the difference was between the accusation against the senator and the accusations more than a dozen against President Trump. She said, quote, senator franken has admitted wrongdoing, the president has not. But still his response to provide moore stands in stark con frost to other Republican Leaders like paul ryan, Mitch Mcconnell who say they believe the women. Frost to other republ leaders like paul ryan, Mitch Mcconnell who say they believe the women. Thank you. So President Trump believes that the people of alabama should be the ones who decide the political fate of roy moore. The states republican governor said that despite the growing list of accusers, rmoore is a republican and that is what is most important. Watch. I said to him no reason to disbelieve any of them. I do believe that the nominee of the party is the one ill vote for. I believe in the Republican Party and what we stand for and most important we need to have a republican in the United States senate to vote on the things Like Supreme Court justices, other appointments that the senate has to confirm and make major decisions. I want to get John Archibald in here. He is there in alabama, he knows the people, the voters. John, the governor we just heard, she says roy moore gets her vote even though she has no reason to disbelieve these accusers. Is that a commonly held eventment there, that he is the republican so he gets the republican vote automatically . Well, among some it is, but it is really an astonishing statement that has shocked a lot of people to hear the head of the state of alabama say she doesnt doubt these women, yet she will vote for him anyway. I mean how many does it take to change that . What do you have to do to be disqualified to be a senator in alabama . Especially as a woman herself. Especially as a woman herself. And i think she doesnt quite understand the political fallout of that based on what ive heard so far. There are an awful lot of people who are upset by that, and certainly not roy moores hardcore base of supporters which have obviously frightened a lot of alabama politicians. But i think that it has long term consequences that she may not have anticipated. What would be the bigger surprise come election day, that roy moore wins despite these allegations or he loses in state as solid red as alabama . I cant believe im going to say this to you, but i think at in moment the bigger surprise to me would be now if he wins. He will have a lot of support, but a lot of the people who have come in from out of state to support him have actually turned off a lot of people and mobilized the large number of people in alabama who dont really like roy moore. Roy moore certainly has a real base of support. But hes mobilized a base i think that has not voted in a while. And it will be really interesting to see if that changes everything. And of course we look at the polling, fox news has this new poll out showing the challenger, the democrat, doug jones is actually leading by eight points. Based on what im hearing you say, maybe that does reflect the temperature of voters on the ground there. Yeah, and im reluctant to get behind any poll that has come out. They have been all over the place and i dont really trust any of them. But i can tell you that my feedback on this in the last few days has been overwhelmingly in opposition provide moore despite real efforts that he and his supporters are putting in to discrediting a lot of these efforts and toprovide moore despite real efforts that he and his supporters are putting in to discrediting a lot of these efforts and to discredit media reports sgln and y repor reports. And yet the campaign has raised about 500,000 in the past two days. So how do you explain that . Well, you spin it by blaming everything on liberal media, the gop establishment in washington, the democrats. Every key buzz word that you can use to diminish those claims and to take the eye off of the accusations themselves. Hell say that doug jones is just nancy pelosi in a suit. And it will resonate. What impact does President Trumps response have on this election, do you think . You know, i dont think it has much. We can look at the primary in which trump was heavily in favor of luther strange, roy moores opponent. And although alabama is strongly trump and alabama republicans are strong more strongly trump than anyone else in the country, they simply didnt listen because they thought that they knew what trump needed more than trump did. And they thought that was roy moore. And everyone under estimates how much alabama republicans despise Mitch Mcconnell. And i think hes tied up in this, too. Also interesting the dynamics. John archibald, thanks for the insight. Coming up, well tell you what Senate Investigators are now demanding from Jared Kushner after they say he failed to turnover certain russiarelated documents. And inside the dark world of slave trade in libya. Well tell you the stories of migrants being kidnapped, beaten and auctioned off for as little as 400. Their stories and how the Libyan Government is responding to our exclusive reporting next. You cant predict the market. 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To the russia investigation now and new questions surrounding one of the closest individuals to the president personally and inside the west wing, the president s soninlaw and Senior Adviser Jared Kushner. A source now tells cnn kushner told investigators in congress that he did not recall any contact with wikileaks during the campaign, but now senators on the Judiciary Committee say kushner did receive an email about wikileaks and he in fact forwarded it on to a campaign official. They know this because they got those documents through other people that they have been in contact with. And as cnn justice correspondent pamela brown shows us, this is far from the first time kushner has left investigators wondering what else is there. Reporter a new request from lawmakers for more of Jared Kushners personal communications about russia and wikileaks. Just the latest example of how rusher in, the president s soninlaw and Senior Adviser, is involved in most of the key moments of interest to investigators as they seek answers on russia meddling and any collusion with the trump campaign. I have been fully transparent in providing all requested information. Reporter kushners role is being looked at across many areas of the special counsel and congressional investigations. Including revelations just this week he forwarded an email about donald trump jr. S Communications with wikileaks to then Campaign Aide hope hicks. He also played a role in the firing of james comey by supporting the decision. And cnn has learned investigators are asking witnesses about kushners involvement in the firing that is now part of the obstruction of justice probe. He spearheaded the campaigns Data Analytics operation which is now under scrutiny by investigators looking at whether the russians had any help with targeting fake news during the election. Cnn reported russian trolls at times targeted specific states on facebook including michigan and wisconsin, two states trump narrowly won. The campaign denies working with the russians. During the height of the president ial campaign, kushner along with don junior oir. And manafort took a meeting in trump tower with a russian lawyer that don jr. Was told had a dirt on clinton, a meeting he failed to disclose several times. Kushner said the meeting turned out to be so significant that he accidentally left it off his form. Kushners apparent lack much transparency has drawn the ire of democrats. He is apparently omitting documentsmuch transparency has drawn the ire of democrats. He is apparently omitting documents and that is the reason ive long advocated subpoenas for all of the documents, that is the only way we will know. He certainly is doing himself no favor by withholding some apparently. And i think he should be subpoenaed to appear before the committee in open under oath at a hearing. Reporter kushner also held a secret meeting at trump tower with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and Michael Flynn during the transition where they discussed using the Russian Embassy secure communications to discuss syria policy during the transition. Kushner denied it was meant as a secret back channel. And another meeting that is drawing scrutiny is the one he had with the russian banker during the transition. In his testimony to congress, denied they discussed business matters. But the Bank Released a statement saying business was the purpose of the trip and kushner did not initially deposit close the personal email account he used for official business when he was interviewed in september by the Senate Intelligence committee. Kushners lawyer says his client is voluntarily providing documents to muellers team and has been cooperative throughout the process. Pamela brown, cnn, washington. Lets discuss the latest developments. Joining us now, analyst david sanger, formand seemingly this becoming a pattern for Jared Kushner. All the meetings he failed to disclose, several times on his security clearance form including the meeting with the russian lawyer. Also now this email chain on wikileaks. A socalled russian back door overture, communications with Michael Flynn. So richard, if kushner wasnt the president s soninlaw, would he still have a security clearance . I dont know because this white house is willing to hand out security clear answeances t about anybody. Think of flynn who was a foreign a little. This is a situation where just about everybody on this Team Including Jared Kushner and the attorney general has a lot of amnesia about anything having to do with the russians and also wikileaks. So either he wasnt being candid with the committee there or he just forgot what was in his email, but weve just seen so many repeated instances in which high ranking officials in the administration have just forgotten about anything having to do with russia while they were busy colluding with the russians. And that is just so an bun dafrntsly obvious and the president continues to say this is fake news, there was no collusion and there is just no credibility to any of that. But yet, let immediame stop there, but i heard you use that word collusion which of course perks up all the ears. What evidence have you seen of actual collusion at this point . Qulafs going what was going trump tower when they all met with the russian a littles to get the dirt on hillary and the russians wanted to talk about the adoptions . We know that is about the sanctions build. They want the sanctions bill lifted in return for the kidirtn hillary. So that is just one instance of collusion. And others have been disclosed since then. Whether it was illegal or not is what bob mueller needs to determine. So the legal element there is obviously the key in terms of the investigation. Julian, the other piece of this, each time investigators are forced to go back to kushner, again this is a person who is inside the white house. Yes, this is a case where you can call it am measles i cant, y amnesia, for getting, the to sit of transparent. Each time we dont get all the informationmeasles i cant, amnesia, for getting, the to sit of transparent. Each time we dont get all the information and mueller has too keep going back to this top official, a family member, and we have these surprises. So credibility is everything when it comes to an investigation like this and gradually that has eroded. And so both the congress allege committees as well as mueller just dont have a lot of confidence that the information before them is all there is. And we keep learning there is more. And we keep hearing of new requests for more documents, more testimony. I want you to listen to Sergey Kislyak, this is on russian tv recently. Watch. Narrator can you list who youve met or spoke to the phone just so we know who is going to be in prison next or at least will be summoned for question he . Flynn, sessions, who else . Narrator this is a real problem. There are two problems here. First, i would never do that. Second, the list would be so long i wont be able to name them even in 20 minutes. That caught my ear, david. But he needed horn 20 minutes to list all his contacts with the campaign. This is also a man who lets remember was in the oval office, a meeting only disclosed because a photo came out. What will investigators think of this . Well, there are two ways to look at it. First, hes the Russian Ambassador to the United States. His job is to go meet americans. And its the job of the americans who he is meeting to go deal with him, obviously there are a lot of u. S. Issues going on, but when you u. S. And russia issues going on. But when there is a campaign under way, you have to be extraordinary careful about effor

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