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2020 rival, joe biden. Of course, this is after the Mueller Report found help was welcomed from russia to get dirt on Hillary Clinton in 2016. While giulianis trip to ukraine is now off, thats not to say that hes done going after joe biden. Youre not going to ukraine. Are you just stepping back completely . I dont know. Ill play it by ear. Ill see what is going on. I am actually quite confident that the facts with regard to Vice President former Vice President biden are so compelling that theres no way he gets from here to the election without this being investigated. Okay. He would be better off getting investigated now, where it really isnt going to affect the election. It is 17 months away. Cnns Sarah Westwood is at the white house for us. Sarah, the president also focusing on joe biden, telling politico that he could raise the possibility of an investigation by the attorney general bill barr into biden and possibility his son, right . Thats right, alex. The president telling politico he believes he would be within his rights to go to bill barr and ask him to look into the situation with the bidens. Keep in mind, this is all based on events that took place in 2016, when then Vice President joe biden was among a number of leaders asking ukrainians top prosecutor to step down. He was looking into a ukrainian firm in which the former Vice President s son, hunter biden, had a financial interest. Heres what President Trump told politico. He said, certainly, it would be an important thing to speak about, but i havent done it yet. It could be a big situation. Thats President Trump referring to speaking to attorney barr. As we mentioned, biden was among a handful of western leaders pushing for the ouster of the ukrainian official. There is no evidence he did it as a result of his sons business activities. Giuliani s backtracking on his trip to ukraine to speak to officials about it. The president acknowledged that at the moment, biden seems best positioned in the democratic primary to run against him. Biden in 2016 wasnt the only foreign official calling for the removal of the prosecutor. There were other western governments doing the same sarah, we saw this morning a twitter spree from the president. What has he been saying . Reporter even by trumps standards, there was a prolific twitter spree this morning. The president retweeting or tweeting 62 times in just one hour this morning. Hes been continuing since. Hes been focusing on messages though that have to do with the origins of the russia investigation, a favorite topic of his, but also on the subpoena that the Senate Intelligence committee issued to his son, donald trump jr. , this week. This is something that sources tell cnn has really upset the president s inner circle because of the republican chairman of the committee signing off on the subpoena for the testimony of donald trump jr. , even after Mitch Mcconnell took to the senate floor this week to declare case closed on russia investigations in congress. That handed democrats an opening to question mcconnells declaration, that the case is closed. This is something that took the president by surprise and has caused frustration for allies, alex. They dont see it as closed. Sarah, thanks very much. Joining me is senior political analyst and editor for the atlantic, ron brownstein. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. Hi, alex. Do you think it dawned on rue dee ga rudy, maybe with everything with the russia investigation, the president might want to avoid the look of getting help from a foreign power . How he was considering this was breathtaking, a reminder of how day by day, almost yard by yard, we have drifted so far into, you know, Uncharted Waters here. The idea that a close ally of the president would openly go to a foreign country, looking for dirt on a potential 2020 opponent, and at the same time, the president would say theres nothing wrong with him asking the Justice Department to open an investigation. I mean, just imagine this five, seven, ten years ago. By itself, it would have been the dominant story for a long time. Yet, theres so many kind of holes in the rule of law that have been punched, and in the traditional ways that the president s conport themselves, that we are becoming used to it. This, however, was beyond the pail. Doesnt seem he is giving up on the idea, however. No. It is something he is considering for further down the line. Also joining us in this discussion is former federal prosecutor gene, former assistant prosecutor. There are legitimate questions about bidens efforts in 2016, as we were discussing with sarah, to remove the top ukra e ukrainian prosecutor who, years earlier, had investigated a gas company that is or was, rather, connected to bidens son, hunter. We cant ignore that biden, for right now at least, is at the top of the democratic polls and could very well, in the end, be trumps opponent. Lets listen to giuliani and what he said before cancelling his excuse me. This is what he said before cancelling his trip. Were notdling in an election. It were meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do. Theres nothing illegal about it. What is your reaction . What is amazing, this is what the president and his personal lawyer and others do in open. Can you imagine what they must do behind closed doors, privately . I am absolutely disgusted the president of the United States is using his new lawyer, his new michael cohen, to dig up dirt against joe biden. This, arguably, violates the logan act. It, arguably, violates the Foreign Agent reporting act. It just smells of abuse of power. If this had happened under bill clintons administration, bill clinton would have been impeached in 1998. Case closed. Right. Now, things are different. It is not just giuliani going to ukraine to dig up dirt. The president saying it would be appropriate for him to speak to attorney general bill barr about launching an investigation into biden or his son, hunter. Ron, do you see that as a sign that the president is growing more and more worried about bidens chances, possibly running against him in 2020 . Well, yes. I think, you know, the president has kind of put his heart on his sleeve, in the sense of giving you what he thinks on twitter, that they are concerned about biden, particularly his ability to win back the three blue wall states in the midwest and the rust belt. Pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. What strikes me about the comments from the president is the crickets from republicans in congress. Fiveyear 45 years of the watergate hearing. There was a commitment to uphold the rule of law and stick with the truth. Weve seen republicans almost abdicate any interest in holding the president accountable. Understanding exactly what happened in the Mueller Report and so forth. I think one of the things well learn in the next few months is whether it is possible, not only for one chamber of commerce, but one party within one chamber, to effectively sustain such traditional ideas as limits on president ial authority. Separation of powers when you have one party thats completely stepped outside and abdicated any responsibility to do that. Switching gears a little bit. Cnn has also learned from an Administration Official that the white house has asked former white house counsel, don mcgahn, to state publicly that the president did not obstruct justice. Mcgahn did turn it down. Mcgahn has been testified to perform before congress. Do you see well see it happen . Talking to me, alex . Yes, do you think were going to see don mcgahn testify in front of congress . Yes, well see him testify in congress. The president , through his agents, basically, white house officials, are asking a witness, don mcgahn, to essentially change his opinion of certain events. It is Crystal Clear from volume ii of the Mueller Report that bad stuff happened by the president of the United States, and don mcgahn, who has a moral and ethical compass, was disgusted. Theyre trying to get mr. Mcgahn to now say, oh, everything was all right. You know what that is, alex . Thats witness camptampering. It is terrible. Whats strange about this, mcgahn refusing to say so, is in the Mueller Report, it says he did not believe that the president obstructed justice. Ron, to you, except for Robert Mueller himself, do you see mcgahn is the biggest witness that Congressional Democrats would like to try to get in front of them . I think so. It was deans testimony at the watergate hearings a year before impeachment in 1974 that put the nation on the road toward that outcome. It was so compelling. Don mcgahn, i think, is an important figure. Certainly, he has maintained enough independence to testify extensively to Robert Mueller, and also to deny this request from the white house, you know, to exonerate the president. He hasnt gone the next step yet. We dont know that he wants to testify, that he wants to honestly tell his story to the public. I mean, i think he understands what an important moment that would be and understanding exactly what happened. He is someone who has been a supporter of the president. Hes been a loyal soldier in the conservative legal movement. Important in moving all the judges onto the bench. What does he feel is his highest obligation . Is it to donald trump, to the republican party, or to the country in terms of giving us a fuller understanding of all the events that raise so many red flags in the Mueller Report . Ron, gene, thanks so much for joining me. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Coming up, the fight for 2020. A record six women seeking the democratic nomination. Are they being held to a higher standard, or, as some are saying, they getting hillaryed . A student getting the school bus doors closed on him and getting dragged. His mother is saying it was on purpose. A million species could be gone in a few decades. You dont even want to know protection. Detergent alone doesnt kill bacteria, but adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99. 9 of bacteria with 0 bleach. Lysol. What it takes to protect. ® Rheumatoid Arthritis or Psoriatic Arthritis. When considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis or active Psoriatic Arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. It can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. Xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened. As have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, low blood cell counts, higher liver tests and cholesterol levels. Dont start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. Your doctor should perform blood tests before and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. Tell your doctor if youve been somewhere fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor about xeljanz xr. nature, ambient sounds, birds in flight, Running Water dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor car horn barely audible car horn increasing in volume and intensity car horn loud jane, this is jim from onstar. Ive contacted help and theyre on their way. O. K. Dont worry im going to stay with you until help arrives. Thank you. That deer, it just, just came out of nowhere. Everyone could use a little romance. Even your feet. The new amope pedi perfect with diamond crystals gives you smooth results in just seconds that youll fall in love with instantly. Available at walmart in the foot care aisle. Its how we care for our Cancer Patients like job. When he was diagnosed with cancer, his team at ctca created a Personalized Care plan to treat his cancer and side effects. So job could continue to work and stay strong for his family. This is how we inspire hope. This is how we heal. We love you, daddy. Good night. I love you guys. Cancer Treatment Centers of america. Appointments available now. In the fight for 2020, biden, sanders, buttigieg, those are the names that topped poll after poll, including the latest from new hampshire. We have a Record Number of women running for president on the democratic side. Why is it the men who are always in the lead . Cnns mj lee spoke to voters who fear a female fnominee could ge, quote, hillaryed in 2020. What i was wearing, what my haircut was. Reporter six women seeking the president ial nomination. Senators, congresswoman, and a spiritual writer. Ill fight for your children as hard as i would fight for my own. Reporter female voters across the country telling cnn that it is time for a woman to finally take the white house. We make up, i think, 51 of the population. I dont think a man could ever handle the pressures of that office any better than a woman. Reporter but there is another darker sentiment. Frustration about sexism, fueled by flashbacks to Hillary Clintons loss in 2016. I know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling. Someday, someone will. Reporter a lingering trauma from the last election. Some voiced concerns about you getting hillaryed, meaning youre held to a higher standard for arbitrary or sexist reasons. Reporter concern that nominating a woman again will hand donald trump a second term. I think most people didnt vote for her because she was a woman. I think that they ended up voting for trump because he was a man. I worry about the old boys club. Reporter nine months from the iowa caucuses, some women who want to see a women president leaning toward one of the men. Id love for joe biden. I think he has the best chance of winning the presidency. Reporter on the campaign trail, the female candidates making a forceful case for why women are just as electable as men. People tell me, it cannot be done. Theyre not ready to see you. Its not your time. It will be. We won. Someone once said, and i agree with part of this but not all, that women candidates should speak softly and carry a big statistic. I think you know i dont always speak softly. Its going to be fun when i say, and i won, because thats what girls do. Reporter a recent cnn poll showing no indication that women are overwhelmingly supporting the female candidate over the male candidates. This man telling cnn he has a gender bias. I would support the female if female and male was equal. It is high time we have a female president. Reporter as the 2020 election heats up and we enter the next phase, remember, the democratic debates begin in june. Electability is a word well probably hear more often from all of the candidates as they look ahead to next november. Thanks to mj lee. Joining me now, time contributor jay newton small, and National Political reporter for the new york times, lisa. Thank you for joining me. This is something we heard in the last president ial race, the questions about women. Does it surprise you that in 2019, were still hearing from voters, who think a woman cannot win . It doesnt surprise me. The democratic in 2016 that swung was actually noncollege educated white women voters. Every other demographic was set in stone. That demographic swung 40 Percentage Points back and forth from different points during the election. I think they need to convince voters to vote for them and not stay home by droves. They voted by donald trump by 27 or 28 Percentage Points, but you saw big democratic gains in 2018. When you saw the margin limited to just Percentage Points. The candidates dont see themselves reflected. Theyre not relating to the female candidates. They dont see themselves making these powerful decisions to become leaders, who would run for office. They cant real late to those decisions and dont consider voting for them or supporting them. We see it in the early polls, the top two or three positions are almost always taken up by men. Do you think it is because of gender, or are these male candidates, who are at the top of the heap for now at least, are they running more effective campaigns at this point . Well, i think it is still very early. Part of what were seeing is it is a reflection of who voters know. Theyre familiar with joe biden, the former Vice President. Theyre familiar with bernie sanders. He, of course, ran a strong primary campaign against Hillary Clinton last time around. I also think Something Else is at play. When you look at the polling, what you hear from every democrat, the first thing they always tell you is, im looking for someone who can beat donald trump. A lot of this race is focused on this electability term. That is somewhat of a gender term. When we think about electabil y electability, we think of who has won in the past. For american history, its generally been white men. I think what needs to happen is the female candidates need to prove they could, in fact, beat donald trump, and they will have plenty of opportunities to do that, as attention focuses more squarely on this race. There will be debates. They therell be more and more campaign events. They need to prove they can cross the barme. We know it is a higher bar than the men have to cross. Elizabeth warren is featured on the cover of time this wean, with the phrase thats become her campaign slogan. Take a listen. Ive got a plan. I have got plans. I got a plan. Shes got plans. For everything, it seems. Shes put forward more than a dozen complex policy proposals or everything from Mueller Report<\/a> found help was welcomed from russia to get dirt on Hillary Clinton<\/a> in 2016. While giulianis trip to ukraine is now off, thats not to say that hes done going after joe biden. Youre not going to ukraine. Are you just stepping back completely . I dont know. Ill play it by ear. Ill see what is going on. I am actually quite confident that the facts with regard to Vice President<\/a> former Vice President<\/a> biden are so compelling that theres no way he gets from here to the election without this being investigated. Okay. He would be better off getting investigated now, where it really isnt going to affect the election. It is 17 months away. Cnns Sarah Westwood<\/a> is at the white house for us. Sarah, the president also focusing on joe biden, telling politico that he could raise the possibility of an investigation by the attorney general bill barr into biden and possibility his son, right . Thats right, alex. The president telling politico he believes he would be within his rights to go to bill barr and ask him to look into the situation with the bidens. Keep in mind, this is all based on events that took place in 2016, when then Vice President<\/a> joe biden was among a number of leaders asking ukrainians top prosecutor to step down. He was looking into a ukrainian firm in which the former Vice President<\/a> s son, hunter biden, had a financial interest. Heres what President Trump<\/a> told politico. He said, certainly, it would be an important thing to speak about, but i havent done it yet. It could be a big situation. Thats President Trump<\/a> referring to speaking to attorney barr. As we mentioned, biden was among a handful of western leaders pushing for the ouster of the ukrainian official. There is no evidence he did it as a result of his sons business activities. Giuliani s backtracking on his trip to ukraine to speak to officials about it. The president acknowledged that at the moment, biden seems best positioned in the democratic primary to run against him. Biden in 2016 wasnt the only foreign official calling for the removal of the prosecutor. There were other western governments doing the same sarah, we saw this morning a twitter spree from the president. What has he been saying . Reporter even by trumps standards, there was a prolific twitter spree this morning. The president retweeting or tweeting 62 times in just one hour this morning. Hes been continuing since. Hes been focusing on messages though that have to do with the origins of the russia investigation, a favorite topic of his, but also on the subpoena that the Senate Intelligence<\/a> committee issued to his son, donald trump jr. , this week. This is something that sources tell cnn has really upset the president s inner circle because of the republican chairman of the committee signing off on the subpoena for the testimony of donald trump jr. , even after Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> took to the senate floor this week to declare case closed on russia investigations in congress. That handed democrats an opening to question mcconnells declaration, that the case is closed. This is something that took the president by surprise and has caused frustration for allies, alex. They dont see it as closed. Sarah, thanks very much. Joining me is senior political analyst and editor for the atlantic, ron brownstein. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. Hi, alex. Do you think it dawned on rue dee ga rudy, maybe with everything with the russia investigation, the president might want to avoid the look of getting help from a foreign power . How he was considering this was breathtaking, a reminder of how day by day, almost yard by yard, we have drifted so far into, you know, Uncharted Waters<\/a> here. The idea that a close ally of the president would openly go to a foreign country, looking for dirt on a potential 2020 opponent, and at the same time, the president would say theres nothing wrong with him asking the Justice Department<\/a> to open an investigation. I mean, just imagine this five, seven, ten years ago. By itself, it would have been the dominant story for a long time. Yet, theres so many kind of holes in the rule of law that have been punched, and in the traditional ways that the president s conport themselves, that we are becoming used to it. This, however, was beyond the pail. Doesnt seem he is giving up on the idea, however. No. It is something he is considering for further down the line. Also joining us in this discussion is former federal prosecutor gene, former assistant prosecutor. There are legitimate questions about bidens efforts in 2016, as we were discussing with sarah, to remove the top ukra e ukrainian prosecutor who, years earlier, had investigated a gas company that is or was, rather, connected to bidens son, hunter. We cant ignore that biden, for right now at least, is at the top of the democratic polls and could very well, in the end, be trumps opponent. Lets listen to giuliani and what he said before cancelling his excuse me. This is what he said before cancelling his trip. Were notdling in an election. It were meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do. Theres nothing illegal about it. What is your reaction . What is amazing, this is what the president and his personal lawyer and others do in open. Can you imagine what they must do behind closed doors, privately . I am absolutely disgusted the president of the United States<\/a> is using his new lawyer, his new michael cohen, to dig up dirt against joe biden. This, arguably, violates the logan act. It, arguably, violates the Foreign Agent<\/a> reporting act. It just smells of abuse of power. If this had happened under bill clintons administration, bill clinton would have been impeached in 1998. Case closed. Right. Now, things are different. It is not just giuliani going to ukraine to dig up dirt. The president saying it would be appropriate for him to speak to attorney general bill barr about launching an investigation into biden or his son, hunter. Ron, do you see that as a sign that the president is growing more and more worried about bidens chances, possibly running against him in 2020 . Well, yes. I think, you know, the president has kind of put his heart on his sleeve, in the sense of giving you what he thinks on twitter, that they are concerned about biden, particularly his ability to win back the three blue wall states in the midwest and the rust belt. Pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. What strikes me about the comments from the president is the crickets from republicans in congress. Fiveyear 45 years of the watergate hearing. There was a commitment to uphold the rule of law and stick with the truth. Weve seen republicans almost abdicate any interest in holding the president accountable. Understanding exactly what happened in the Mueller Report<\/a> and so forth. I think one of the things well learn in the next few months is whether it is possible, not only for one chamber of commerce, but one party within one chamber, to effectively sustain such traditional ideas as limits on president ial authority. Separation of powers when you have one party thats completely stepped outside and abdicated any responsibility to do that. Switching gears a little bit. Cnn has also learned from an Administration Official<\/a> that the white house has asked former white house counsel, don mcgahn, to state publicly that the president did not obstruct justice. Mcgahn did turn it down. Mcgahn has been testified to perform before congress. Do you see well see it happen . Talking to me, alex . Yes, do you think were going to see don mcgahn testify in front of congress . Yes, well see him testify in congress. The president , through his agents, basically, white house officials, are asking a witness, don mcgahn, to essentially change his opinion of certain events. It is Crystal Clear<\/a> from volume ii of the Mueller Report<\/a> that bad stuff happened by the president of the United States<\/a>, and don mcgahn, who has a moral and ethical compass, was disgusted. Theyre trying to get mr. Mcgahn to now say, oh, everything was all right. You know what that is, alex . Thats witness camptampering. It is terrible. Whats strange about this, mcgahn refusing to say so, is in the Mueller Report<\/a>, it says he did not believe that the president obstructed justice. Ron, to you, except for Robert Mueller<\/a> himself, do you see mcgahn is the biggest witness that Congressional Democrats<\/a> would like to try to get in front of them . I think so. It was deans testimony at the watergate hearings a year before impeachment in 1974 that put the nation on the road toward that outcome. It was so compelling. Don mcgahn, i think, is an important figure. Certainly, he has maintained enough independence to testify extensively to Robert Mueller<\/a>, and also to deny this request from the white house, you know, to exonerate the president. He hasnt gone the next step yet. We dont know that he wants to testify, that he wants to honestly tell his story to the public. I mean, i think he understands what an important moment that would be and understanding exactly what happened. He is someone who has been a supporter of the president. Hes been a loyal soldier in the conservative legal movement. Important in moving all the judges onto the bench. What does he feel is his highest obligation . Is it to donald trump, to the republican party, or to the country in terms of giving us a fuller understanding of all the events that raise so many red flags in the Mueller Report<\/a> . Ron, gene, thanks so much for joining me. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Coming up, the fight for 2020. A record six women seeking the democratic nomination. Are they being held to a higher standard, or, as some are saying, they getting hillaryed . A student getting the school bus doors closed on him and getting dragged. His mother is saying it was on purpose. A million species could be gone in a few decades. You dont even want to know protection. Detergent alone doesnt kill bacteria, but adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99. 9 of bacteria with 0 bleach. Lysol. What it takes to protect. \u00ae Rheumatoid Arthritis<\/a> or Psoriatic Arthritis<\/a>. When considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis<\/a> or active Psoriatic Arthritis<\/a> for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. It can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. Xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened. As have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, low blood cell counts, higher liver tests and cholesterol levels. Dont start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. Your doctor should perform blood tests before and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. Tell your doctor if youve been somewhere fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor about xeljanz xr. nature, ambient sounds, birds in flight, Running Water<\/a> dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor car horn barely audible car horn increasing in volume and intensity car horn loud jane, this is jim from onstar. Ive contacted help and theyre on their way. O. K. Dont worry im going to stay with you until help arrives. Thank you. That deer, it just, just came out of nowhere. Everyone could use a little romance. Even your feet. The new amope pedi perfect with diamond crystals gives you smooth results in just seconds that youll fall in love with instantly. Available at walmart in the foot care aisle. Its how we care for our Cancer Patients<\/a> like job. When he was diagnosed with cancer, his team at ctca created a Personalized Care<\/a> plan to treat his cancer and side effects. So job could continue to work and stay strong for his family. This is how we inspire hope. This is how we heal. We love you, daddy. Good night. I love you guys. Cancer Treatment Centers<\/a> of america. Appointments available now. In the fight for 2020, biden, sanders, buttigieg, those are the names that topped poll after poll, including the latest from new hampshire. We have a Record Number<\/a> of women running for president on the democratic side. Why is it the men who are always in the lead . Cnns mj lee spoke to voters who fear a female fnominee could ge, quote, hillaryed in 2020. What i was wearing, what my haircut was. Reporter six women seeking the president ial nomination. Senators, congresswoman, and a spiritual writer. Ill fight for your children as hard as i would fight for my own. Reporter female voters across the country telling cnn that it is time for a woman to finally take the white house. We make up, i think, 51 of the population. I dont think a man could ever handle the pressures of that office any better than a woman. Reporter but there is another darker sentiment. Frustration about sexism, fueled by flashbacks to Hillary Clinton<\/a>s loss in 2016. I know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling. Someday, someone will. Reporter a lingering trauma from the last election. Some voiced concerns about you getting hillaryed, meaning youre held to a higher standard for arbitrary or sexist reasons. Reporter concern that nominating a woman again will hand donald trump a second term. I think most people didnt vote for her because she was a woman. I think that they ended up voting for trump because he was a man. I worry about the old boys club. Reporter nine months from the iowa caucuses, some women who want to see a women president leaning toward one of the men. Id love for joe biden. I think he has the best chance of winning the presidency. Reporter on the campaign trail, the female candidates making a forceful case for why women are just as electable as men. People tell me, it cannot be done. Theyre not ready to see you. Its not your time. It will be. We won. Someone once said, and i agree with part of this but not all, that women candidates should speak softly and carry a big statistic. I think you know i dont always speak softly. Its going to be fun when i say, and i won, because thats what girls do. Reporter a recent cnn poll showing no indication that women are overwhelmingly supporting the female candidate over the male candidates. This man telling cnn he has a gender bias. I would support the female if female and male was equal. It is high time we have a female president. Reporter as the 2020 election heats up and we enter the next phase, remember, the democratic debates begin in june. Electability is a word well probably hear more often from all of the candidates as they look ahead to next november. Thanks to mj lee. Joining me now, time contributor jay newton small, and National Political<\/a> reporter for the new york times, lisa. Thank you for joining me. This is something we heard in the last president ial race, the questions about women. Does it surprise you that in 2019, were still hearing from voters, who think a woman cannot win . It doesnt surprise me. The democratic in 2016 that swung was actually noncollege educated white women voters. Every other demographic was set in stone. That demographic swung 40 Percentage Points<\/a> back and forth from different points during the election. I think they need to convince voters to vote for them and not stay home by droves. They voted by donald trump by 27 or 28 Percentage Points<\/a>, but you saw big democratic gains in 2018. When you saw the margin limited to just Percentage Points<\/a>. The candidates dont see themselves reflected. Theyre not relating to the female candidates. They dont see themselves making these powerful decisions to become leaders, who would run for office. They cant real late to those decisions and dont consider voting for them or supporting them. We see it in the early polls, the top two or three positions are almost always taken up by men. Do you think it is because of gender, or are these male candidates, who are at the top of the heap for now at least, are they running more effective campaigns at this point . Well, i think it is still very early. Part of what were seeing is it is a reflection of who voters know. Theyre familiar with joe biden, the former Vice President<\/a>. Theyre familiar with bernie sanders. He, of course, ran a strong primary campaign against Hillary Clinton<\/a> last time around. I also think Something Else<\/a> is at play. When you look at the polling, what you hear from every democrat, the first thing they always tell you is, im looking for someone who can beat donald trump. A lot of this race is focused on this electability term. That is somewhat of a gender term. When we think about electabil y electability, we think of who has won in the past. For american history, its generally been white men. I think what needs to happen is the female candidates need to prove they could, in fact, beat donald trump, and they will have plenty of opportunities to do that, as attention focuses more squarely on this race. There will be debates. They therell be more and more campaign events. They need to prove they can cross the barme. We know it is a higher bar than the men have to cross. Elizabeth warren is featured on the cover of time this wean, with the phrase thats become her campaign slogan. Take a listen. Ive got a plan. I have got plans. I got a plan. Shes got plans. For everything, it seems. Shes put forward more than a dozen complex policy proposals or everything from Affordable Housing<\/a> to student debt. Jay, in this race, when so Many Democrats<\/a> just want someone who can beat donald trump, do you think it will be substance, which warren is pushing, that is going to win out over style . I mean, well see. Its certainly a strategy thats unique, i think, for this particular group of candidates. You see her putting out these details, 30page plans on everything. You see other candidates, you know, sort of much putting on maybe one plan, i think, right now. You have somebody like beto orour orourke, with a plan on Climate Change<\/a> and nothing else. Is just now starting to say, okay, ill roll out more policy. It is important to have policy. I think warren knows these are debates democrats should have. It shouldnt just be who can beat trump and take trump on. It should be about the issues. This is a complex set of times. The fact of the matter is, electorate on the whole hasnt focused on issues during the trump presidency. To debate what the issues are, what the democrats stand for at this point, i think, is a healthy and good thing. Warren has also gotten the snl treatment recently. I want to play a clip from a recent episode that speaks to her candidacy. Im over here working around the clock to give you free college. Oh, look there, beto o dork did parkour in a starbucks. Wow. Whoops. I just figured out universal prek. Whats that over there . Mayor pete bejudgejudy, playing the piano and speaking cling on. Kate mckinnon there having fun at elizabeth warrens expense. There is a serious point to take away from that, how female candidates are judged, as Hillary Clinton<\/a> was so famously in both her president ial campaigns, how theyre judged about likability. Is that fair . Look, likability is another gender term that tells to hit women harder. Women are judged on a higher standard. They have to be relatable and ambitious. They have to be both, you know, strong leaders but also, like, warm and fuzzy. It is a very tough sort of double bind for them to walk. I think what warrens people would tell you is that this race is, as everyone says, around electability. They are putting out a theory of electability, which is that voters will rally around the economic message shes putting out. Proposals like free college. Like medicare for all, which are more closely associated with the left wing of the democratic party. Polling shows they are fairly broadly popular. Whether her theory that case is right, we dont know. It is what the primary will test. What you see a lot of the candidates doing now in the field is trying to show that there are other ways to win the general election, rather than just rectifying the mistakes of last time and, you know, winning back the rust belt voters. There may be other ways to get to where you need to go to beat donald trump. If i could go ahead. If i could add to that, i want to know that women who run for executive Office Actually<\/a> face a very unique and different challenge than women who run for legislative office, which is viewed as collaborative kinds of roles. They have to prove they are capable enough to take that call at 3 00 in the morning, to be a commander in chief, and it is a thin line between being tough enough and also being, i think, unlikable, being too tough. I think thats a really hard challenge and a thin line for a lot of women. Hard line to walk. Thanks for the great discussion. Coming up, no deal. 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Now, in total, a family of four can expect to spend almost 800 more a year. Nearly 1 million americans could lose their jobs. I want to bring in cnn Global Economic<\/a> analyst. Is this how were going to feel the impact . Raises on items, 50 cents here, 1 there . For sure. This round of tariffs is really significant. The last time around, you saw businesses really taking most of the hit. They didnt pass the price increases on to consumers. This time around, theres a broad impact. You named a partial list of things were going to feel. Also, the pinging back and forth with potential retaliatory tariffs from china. Well see about that next week. The 800 could be rising in the future. Is this the best way to strike a trade deal in the end with china . In a word, no. You know, take this back even two years, when the president was first elected. We should have we have legitimate trade gripes against china. I will say that. We should have gotten allies on board. We should have gotten the europeans with us. We shouldnt have been taking on the entire world while trying to fight with china. That was a big mistake. I think whats dangerous now is tensions are so high in both countries. You even have some democrats saying, you know, hey, continue to get tough on china. Pelosi, schumer, coming out and backing the president. It feels youre at a point where nobody is going to back down, and thats dangerous. I want to read to you something the president tweeted this morning. He wrote, such an easy way to avoid tariffs. Make or produce your goods and products in the good old usa. Its very simple. Is it as simple as that . Well, i think the president would like it to be that simple. Its not. I mean, we have had 40 years of building up the system that we have now. That cant be unwound so quickly. I will say, almost every ceo i talk to has, over the last year, been rethinking their supply chains. A lot of people are saying, what can we move to mexico . What can we move to vietnam, australia, other parts of asia . I think it is going to take a long time for anybody to say, can we make everything in america . Thats a big lift. The president has made a very hes made the point very clearly, in his mind, that tariffs will make the country, quote, stronger, not weaker. Is that what weve seen in the past . Is that what we can expect to see in the future. Well, no. I think in the short term, it is going to make consumers very unhappy. Theyre going to be paying more. Whats interesting to me is its really kind of the president is shooting himself in the head in a way. Out of the top ten states that are going to be most affected bittar riffb by tariffs, farm states, Southern States<\/a> that manufacture, those are the states that voted for him. These are the voters that are going to be feeling a lot of pain. Really going into an election cycle, its a very risky gambit here. Fragile moment. Thank you. 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The mother of a teenager is thankful her son is alive after a terrifying incident caught on camera. This is the moment here her son stepped off of his school bus, catching his backpack in the door. The driver didnt stop the bus until after the boy was dragged 150 feet. The 14yearold wasnt seriously hurt, but his mother believes this was no accident. Stephanie elam has more. My initial thoughts were, i was glad he didnt kill him. I was glad he didnt go under the wheel. Reporter children lined up, getting off the school bus, when suddenly, the doors close jusy. His backpack is caught in the door, then the bus starts to move. For about 20 seconds, the boys body is dangling outside the bus, held up only by the straps of his backpack. As the driver is driving, he looks over three times, as hes going forward. Hes driving forward. Hes looking, looks. He looks over. So he knew what he was doing. The children were very animated. He knew exactly what he was doing. Reporter brenda mayes is the mother of the seventh grader. She says her son called her after the february 4th incident, sounding, quote, terrified and embarrassed. And he said that he felt pressure across his chest, but he didnt have, like, injuries. He could tell where he had been pinched there. Reporter mayes believes this was no accident but was done on purpose by the bus driver, john naisbitt. In a lawsuit that names the davis School District<\/a>, its transportation director dave roberts, and naisbitt as defendants, mayes claims the bus driver has a history of targeting biracial students. All this is based upon race, okay . Racial discrimination. Racial assault. It was unconstitutional conduct. Davis School District<\/a> suborned it. They approved it because they did nothing until this event. Reporter in a statement, the School District<\/a> said, quote, when issues of discrimination are raised at any time, they are investigated thoroughly. The davis School District<\/a> takes any claims of Racial Discrimination<\/a> seriously and does not tolerate any form of Racial Discrimination<\/a> in our schools. Roberts had no comment, but nase bi naisbi naisbitt, who the lawsuit claims had to retire after this incident, had this to say. Would you say youre racist . Not at all, no. Look at my dog. Hes has black as can be. Reporter mayes says a criminal investigation into naisbi naisbitts actions is ongoing. Stephanie elam, cnn. Our thanks to stephanie elam. Coming up, a California Teacher<\/a> battling Breast Cancer<\/a> is being forced to pay for her treatment out of her own pocket. And for a substitute teacher to fill in for her. The growing outrage around that case. After my dvt blood clot. I wondered, is another one around the corner. Or could it be different than i thought . I wanted to help protect myself. My doctor recommended eliquis. Eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot. 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Makes me worry, like later on, if that were to happen to me, you know . I have to plan accordingly. Thats not fair. Reporter its all part of a little known state policy that dates back decades. Heres how it works. California teachers get ten sick days a year. If they need more, they can take an additional 100 days of extended sick leave. Theres a catch. The teachers have to pay for their own subs. The money gets docked from their paychecks. About 200 per day in the case of the San Francisco<\/a> teacher who wishes to remain anonymous. Shes an incredible teacher. Thats not fair. Thats, like, crazy. Reporter it falls under a 1976 provision in which teachers dont pay into the states Disability Insurance<\/a> program, so they dont get those benefits. In a statement, the San Francisco<\/a> Teachers Union<\/a> says it is consulting with our members on the priorities for contract negotiations next year. As always, we look forward to making improvements in this and other parts of the contract. Educators say it is part of a larger issue about the lack of money in public education. We need to fix funding in california. Were the fifth largest economy in the world, and we pay 42nd in rankings per state in what we spend on pupil for education. It is not right. Reporter it is unclear how many times this happened, but it was a gofundme page that brought this issue to light. The teacher being fully reimbursed and beyond. It is going to take california lawmakers and the Teachers Union<\/a>s to come up for a fix for what many acknowledge as ridiculous. A cancer ridden teacher with all the stresses and worries associated with an illness, having to pay for her own substitute. Dan simon, cnn, San Francisco<\/a>. Ridiculous indeed. Thanks so dan simon. Now to this weeks cnn hero. Shes 75 years old. She owns a small diner in san diego and makes home cooked meals for sick people who are unable to feed themselves. Meet ruth henders. There is a special connection when youre feeding people. Lets do the veggie burgers. In the beginning, our mission was feeding People Living<\/a> with aids. Now, we have added People Living<\/a> with other chronic illnesses. A lot of them are bed bound. Many times, they dont have the money to shop. Its kind of a desperate thing, when they dont have any food in the house. Nice to see you. Its bringing that love. Its bringing that dignity to them. This is the assignment that i feel that ive been given. Bravo to ruth hendricks. You can nominate your own hero here on cnn heros. Com. Well be right back. And you want to make sure to aim it. Im aiming it. Ohhhhhhh i ordered it for everyone. [laughing] dad vo we got the biggest subaru to help bring our family together. Im just resting my eyes. dad vo even though were generations apart. What a day. 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Theres an alarming new report by the United Nations<\/a> that says roughly 1 million species are on the verge of stings, more than at any other time in recorded history, as bill weir reports, experts are warning it could have grave impacts on humans as well. Reporter its not just the howling lemurs of madagascar that could disappear, not just the cute kiwis, but it could be the tigers in india, the lions in africa, the bees and butterflies that pollenate crops, and the fish stocks that feed billions every day. According to a sweeping new stud, there are now 1 million species on the brink of stings, many of them 2k5078d to blink out in coming decades, everything from plans and corals to creature great and small. While it was asteroid strikes or supervolcanos that caused the dinosaurs to go extinct. Today the biggest threat against nature is human nature. What my colleagues have shown is that we have recon figured dramatically the fabric of the life of the planet. To feed the appetites of over 7 billion humans, it finds that three quarters of land on earth has plowed or paved, dammed or mined. This is all mining pits. Plast ecwaste and pesticide runoff has created over 400 ocean dead zones. Making earth ace climb more unpredictable by the year. Theres many that like Gross Domestic Product<\/a> as an economic measure, but this is not a measure of the wealth of the world. Reporter the authors are calling for a Seismic Shift<\/a> on how economies work and how consumers consume. What is the urgency . The urgency, i wear cuff links, they show me and remind me we have no time to waste. The time for action is now. Its not Climate Change<\/a> is very important, but the number one driver is destruction of habitat, change in habitat. The second is overconsumption and overhunting. These are more immediate and on urgent problems and they could be more directly attacked. What we would like at the end of this report is to really give the world a real message of hope. We dont people to feel discouraged that there is nothing that can be done that we have lost the ballots. We have not lost the battle, and if given a chance, nature will reconquer its rights and will presail. That would mean putting nature over profit motive for the first time in centuries, deciding that the amazon is worth more than amazon. Com and that life as we know it, can only exist on a planet in balance. Bill weir, cnn, new york. s affad for a to help care for veterans everywhere. With va video connect, powered by tmobile, men and women who serve can speak to their doctors from virtually anywhere, and get the care they deserve, so they can return to their most important post. Best friend, quarterback, or just dad. The va provides the care, tmobile provides the coverage. My time is thin, but so is my lawn. Now theres scotts thickr lawn 3in1 solution. 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