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Pandemic. This is according to a federal health official. And its not just any report. But the venerable morbidity and mortality report. This is the cdcs primary publication which has been around in some form since the 1870s. Check out the response from the trump appointee accuses of pushing for changes in shes reports. Theres no denial. Caputo says our intention is to make sure that evidence science based data drives policy through this pandemic, not ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of cdc. All this happening after we learn the president has learned the truth all along about how deadly and dangerous this virus is. And has been downplaying the severity of it. The president s discounting of safety warnings continues tonight. Look at this, this is the scene where he is going to be holding his 17th Campaign Rally since he told woodward that the virus was deadly stuff on february 7th. This is in nevada. Which is also under an air quality alert due to wildfires today. You can see no social distancing, not a lot of masks, the president s rally isnt for another six hours. And heres the latest polling from this important state in the election. You can see there is no clear choice at this moment in the president ial race with joe biden at 46 . That is within the margin of error, lets get to the ground in nevada now, where we have cnn White House Correspondent boris sanchez. One week after the president was captured on tape acknowledging how deadly this virus is and that its airborne, what is the campaign doing to keep the president s supporters safe. Anna, weve presented that question to the campaign and they gave us somewhat generic statement that they typically put out during these events saying they are taking temperatures at the gate. Checking to see if folks have masks. Ive attended many of these events in recent weeks, folks do not wear the masks once they get inside. You did see behind me in the holding pen before going into the airport. There are not a lot of folks that are Wearing Masks right now, theres no social distancing. The campaign despite their statement, not really doing much to keep these folks apart inside the event, seats are scattered, not exactly six feet apart, but they are distant from each other. We should point out this event had to be moved from the reno airport, because officials felt it was not in compliance with a nevada mandate, banning gatherings of 50 people or more. We dug further trying to find out how Douglas County officials allowed this to happen. Theyre not worried about coronavirus, they say there have only been eight cases here, and theyre fine withholding this event. Clearly theres no enforcement of that mandate in Douglas County right now. The president facing criticism for Holding Events like these. I want to show you a quote from biden published earlier today, he writes, nevada ans dont need more bluster from the president , and dont need his reckless rallies that ignore the realities of covid19 and endanger Public Health. Very important note, it is very holt out here. This is the nevada desert, weve seen several folks becoming overheated and being taken out of the line. These folks are going to be waiting another several hours in this heat with no social distancing. Find somewhere to cool off. Thank you. That multiple trump 34r0es have been pushing the cdc to alter the language in its weekly coronavirus report to better align with the president. Dr. Jonathan reiner is with us, a professor of medicine at George Washington university. Doctors regularly rely on studies and guidance from the cdc, but thats especially true, right . When it comes to an emerging virus that were all trying to understand. Do you trust information being put out by the cdc right now. This is very troubling anna. The mmwr has been a staple of medicine and Public Health for over a century. The cdc itself describes this weekly report as the voice of the cdc and they task it themselves with developing what they call timely reliable authoritative accurate and objective information and delivering that to the medical public and the public at large. The mmwr was the publication that in june of 1981 first reported five otherwise previously healthy gay men who reported pneumonia, it was the first report of aids. Now what were seeing is the administration trying to manage the message coming from them. They have been and they continue to try to release objective science relied pong by Public Health officials not only in this country but all over the world, we see a political appointee, mr. Caputo trying to manage the message coming out of the cdc. Thats not what we need right now, thats just the opposite of what we need. In our reporting, we dont know specifics at this point about what kind of information has been altered we have reached out to the cdc for comment. We have not heard back just yet. Take a look at these pictures were seeing right now. And when you see people there, no social distancing, not very many masks, on this particular shot im looking, im struggling to try to find someone with a mask. Maybe there is someone in that crowd, maybe not. What goes through your mind . Is this the impact of the mixed messaging . Its not mixed from the president. Its clear from the president. The president says weve turned the corner, despite the fact that every single day more than 1,000 americans die, every single day, about 40,000 americans contract this virus. And that has not budged all summer long. The president wants to have these rallies to perpetuate this myth that were done with this, except the virus doesnt listen to him, and the virus continues to kill about 1,000 americans. If the new projections of 400,000 deaths by new years is correct, well start to double the number of daily deaths. So when the go ahead, anna. When you say were going to be doubling the number of daily deaths, i have this reaction thats hard to stop, because were already at about 1,000 deaths a day, right . And then we have this new modelling, it could be double what weve seen right now. According to the imhe, theyre saying 415,000 people will be dead by january. Worst Case Scenario we could see up to 10,000 deaths a day in december. 10,000 deaths a day when we have about 1,000 now, and were seeing that start to slowly come down a little bit, how do you get from here to there . You get from here to there by doing what the president is doing, which is encouraging his supporters to come out, not to wear masks and basically call much of this a hoax. What the president should be doing is basically doing what churchill really did, which was rallying the British Public and telling them were going to fight everywhere, were going to fight on the beaches, in the streets. This president should be saying, were going to hunker down, get through the winter, were going to protect each other, because a vaccine is coming. Until that point we need to protect each ear, and were going to protect each other by social distancing and getting everyone in this country to wear a mask. If we need to, well shut down schools and go to Distance Learning for colleges. Well do what it takes to preserve life. Thats the message our leaders should be giving, not were turning a corner, were opening up, not urging places like new york to open faster, its the wrong message. Its not mixed, its simply wrong. We all need to be prepared. Dr. Jonathan reinert, thank you so much for your expertise. My pleasure. President trump today announcing plans to see for himself the enormous and deadly destruction on the u. S. West coast, the wildfires about 100 of them are raging across california, oregon and washington state. Not only in forests and canyons, now in residential areas as well. Entire towns have been destroyed. Thousands of people have fled their homes this weekend, not knowing if anything will still be there when they return. Paul vercammen is northeast of los angeles right now, show us the area around you, and has the danger completely passed where you are . Well, no, you can hear the roar of helicopters, thats over here in this distance behind me, one canyon over, this is a neighborhood with an evacuation warning. The smoke is so thick, we can hardly see that way, we know that a firefight is going on. About this air pollution, we should note that the entire west coast is enduring unimaginably poor air quality as weve been talking about for a week. It is worse than the most polluted cities in asia right now, we talked to some people in this neighborhood. Its been a long harrowing week as they describe. Its horrific to even want to open your windows, you cant do it because the air is so bad. 30 plus years ago, i quit smoking, but ive started again in the last six days just from the air. I actually had a bunch of things by the front door. I said it looked pretty bad i was going toe get out of here. Im a musician, i have a lot of guitars, a lot of recording equipment. I loaded up all the stuff in my truck, backed the truck to the gate in case i had to make a mistake, and that was it, its still sitting there. We can hear the helicopters behind me. This firefight has come to this. Theyve been lighting fires on this fire. To show you how taxed the system is in california, the chief telling me, normally this would require 1500 firefighters maximum. Theyre down to 500, thats how spread out they are, theyre being tactical and judicious. These are trying times for all these firefighters. 29,000 they estimate are fighting fires right now in the west. Already 27 people have lost their lives in california and oregon, including a 13yearold boy. Paul vercammen, thank you for that update. Wishing everyone there saiflt. Bob woodward has made his career tormenting president s. Why did President Trump think he could avoid that same fate when he agreed to 18 on the record interviews . [narrator] did you just reward yourself for spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub . Grubhubs gonna reward you for that with a 5 off perk. doorbell rings [crowd] grubhub fireworks exploding monitoring patients in hospitals around the world so that doctors and nurses can make sure you feel safe. As new challenges have arisen, weve grown to bring that same safety and support to the place that you want to be most. Together. Masimo. Together in hospital. Together at home. He used to have gum problems. Now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinicallyproven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. crowd applauding therabreath, its a better mouthwash. At walmart, target and other fine stores. It may be the biggest question of the wonder whetherr not somebody like that can write good. I dont think he can, but lets see what happens. Brian todd takes a look back atwood wards history awith can of where president s. President trump was so confident he could get bob woodward to write a growing narrative about him, he went around his aids to talked to woodward one on one. Tats according to people who spoke with us at cnn. Bob woodward is someone i resmekt. Not knowing too much about his work, i thought it would be interesting to talk to him. Trump spoke to woodward 18 times, after not speaking to him for woodwards first book. Trump brags about a now not secret weapon. I have built a nuclear a weapons system that nobodys had in this country before. In the wake of the explosive excerpts, including the revelation that trump downplayed the coronavirus pandemic to the American People. Observers believe the president may have miscalculated. His ego got the best of him, he thought he could spin and charm a bob woodward. Anybody who knows bob knows thats a possible task. Ears who have occupied the oval off the have had similar experiences. Bob woodward has written best selling books on nine president s. Barack obama, george w. Bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter granted him interviews. Aids to obama and bush sparred with woodward after the publication. Its not clear if Ronald Reagan or george bush sr. Spoke to woodward. I have some major differences in bob woodward, its no point going into them, were not on close terms at all. Trump himself is quoted as saying, i hope you treat me better than bush, you made him look like a stupid moron which he was. Richard nixon and gerald ford are not thought to have spoken with woodward. Observers call it the woodward mistake that president s speak to him. The ability he has to get president s to talk and does it by saying, ive talked to everybody else in your administration but you is unnerving. Woodward often speaks to scores of people inside administrations, before asking a president for an interview. And his sources are impeccable. We asked Susan Glasser a former editor what makes a washington insider decide whether to talk to woodward or not. Those who cooperate with woodward generally do have a better chance to get their story out. But if someone made that argument to President Trump in getting him to cooperate with woodward. There was a fatal error probably missing there, which is to say, if youre the president , you know, you dont get to spin woodward. The observers we spoke to say one thing President Trump could have done. Which president s obama and george w. Bush did was to have aids present during the interview. It appears that President Trump did neither. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Of course, bob woodward along with Carl Bernstein became journalism legends in the 1970s. Joining us now to discuss woodwards reporting is the other half of that dynamic duo, Carl Bernstein. Always good to talk with you. When you have the president s own words on tape, of course, that was nixons undoing, the fact that President Trump even sat down with woodward, is it as if nixon had mailed you the tapes himself . Are they that damning . Theyre worse than nixons watergate tapes. What they reveal is a president ial felony on a scale weve never seen in this country before. Weve never seen a president as trump has done here. Ignore thele th and well being of the American People put his own reelection interests in front of his basic job, which is to protect the American People, and to protect the United States from enemies, foreign and domestic. This is an enemy he was warned about and we hear it on tape in a way weve never heard such an event before. And what does the president of the United States do . He decides that, okay, thousands of lives are going to be lost here, and its evident that those lives have been lost unnecessarily. Because of his felonious negligence. Why do you think its a felony, when you call it a president ial felony. What makes you believe its an actual crime . I say a president ial felony. Its not about what title 18 of the u. S. Code says. The same way that nixons felonies were not described by title 18 necessarily. They have to do with his dereliction of duty as the president of the United States. Weve never seen a dereliction of this kind where the lives of americans were literally sacrificed because the president decided that other narrow interests, his own go in front of the health, well being, welfare and Public Safety of the American People. That is felonious. We just saw him leaving there for an event in nevada where hes still willing to put other peoples lives at risk, to come and cheer him on. You know, the president made these comments to woodward about the virus. And doctors say, if he had made those comments publicly, he would have saved lives. Woodward is also being criticized for sitting on these tapes. Do you think woodward should have made the president s comments public sooner . I think if you look at the chronology of what happened, is that these comments were made in january. And then in may, bob was finally able to find out and try angulate the information about how trump learned in january that he was briefed by his National Security adviser and deputy National Security adviser, as to how deadly this coronavirus might be and the fact that he was warned specifically by these two high ranking National Security officials that it could be on the scale of the pandemic of 1917 and 1918. Bob went back and did exactly what he should have done, which is to find out, what is trump telling me and why is he telling me this . Finally he uncovered this meeting, which is so dramatic in terms of what the president was told. And the president did not tell bob on the tape exactly what he was told and how he was told, that is whats so revealing and when you put the chronology together, it becomes apparent why it was revealed. The president claimed to woodward, and he has continued to claim that he is downplaying the coronavirus because he doesnt want to cause a panic. And yet that same logic just flies in the face of what hes been saying about mail in voting and threats of riots in the suburbs, and past warnings hes made about an invasion at the border. I have to ask you carl given your connection to a different president , nixon, once said, people react to fear not love, they dont teach that in sunday school, but its true. President trump has said something similar as a candidate back in 2016, real power is i dont even want to use the word fear. What do you think of the way President Trump has tried to use fear to his advantage and in the case of the coronavirus, hasnt. Its evident that scaring people, especially about imaginary dang evers based on racism, based on foreign fear of foreigners they dont exist. These things that he has tried to scare americans about. But what lets take a step back for a minute and look at what happened in january. The president , a week before the state of the Union Address learned about this virus. What would an fdr . What would have a jfk done . If he had a state of the Union Address coming up, i would think the president of the Campaign Rally<\/a> since he told woodward that the virus was deadly stuff on february 7th. This is in nevada. Which is also under an air quality alert due to wildfires today. You can see no social distancing, not a lot of masks, the president s rally isnt for another six hours. And heres the latest polling from this important state in the election. You can see there is no clear choice at this moment in the president ial race with joe biden at 46 . That is within the margin of error, lets get to the ground in nevada now, where we have cnn White House Correspondent<\/a> boris sanchez. One week after the president was captured on tape acknowledging how deadly this virus is and that its airborne, what is the campaign doing to keep the president s supporters safe. Anna, weve presented that question to the campaign and they gave us somewhat generic statement that they typically put out during these events saying they are taking temperatures at the gate. Checking to see if folks have masks. Ive attended many of these events in recent weeks, folks do not wear the masks once they get inside. You did see behind me in the holding pen before going into the airport. There are not a lot of folks that are Wearing Masks<\/a> right now, theres no social distancing. The campaign despite their statement, not really doing much to keep these folks apart inside the event, seats are scattered, not exactly six feet apart, but they are distant from each other. We should point out this event had to be moved from the reno airport, because officials felt it was not in compliance with a nevada mandate, banning gatherings of 50 people or more. We dug further trying to find out how Douglas County<\/a> officials allowed this to happen. Theyre not worried about coronavirus, they say there have only been eight cases here, and theyre fine withholding this event. Clearly theres no enforcement of that mandate in Douglas County<\/a> right now. The president facing criticism for Holding Events<\/a> like these. I want to show you a quote from biden published earlier today, he writes, nevada ans dont need more bluster from the president , and dont need his reckless rallies that ignore the realities of covid19 and endanger Public Health<\/a>. Very important note, it is very holt out here. This is the nevada desert, weve seen several folks becoming overheated and being taken out of the line. These folks are going to be waiting another several hours in this heat with no social distancing. Find somewhere to cool off. Thank you. That multiple trump 34r0es have been pushing the cdc to alter the language in its weekly coronavirus report to better align with the president. Dr. Jonathan reiner is with us, a professor of medicine at George Washington<\/a> university. Doctors regularly rely on studies and guidance from the cdc, but thats especially true, right . When it comes to an emerging virus that were all trying to understand. Do you trust information being put out by the cdc right now. This is very troubling anna. The mmwr has been a staple of medicine and Public Health<\/a> for over a century. The cdc itself describes this weekly report as the voice of the cdc and they task it themselves with developing what they call timely reliable authoritative accurate and objective information and delivering that to the medical public and the public at large. The mmwr was the publication that in june of 1981 first reported five otherwise previously healthy gay men who reported pneumonia, it was the first report of aids. Now what were seeing is the administration trying to manage the message coming from them. They have been and they continue to try to release objective science relied pong by Public Health<\/a> officials not only in this country but all over the world, we see a political appointee, mr. Caputo trying to manage the message coming out of the cdc. Thats not what we need right now, thats just the opposite of what we need. In our reporting, we dont know specifics at this point about what kind of information has been altered we have reached out to the cdc for comment. We have not heard back just yet. Take a look at these pictures were seeing right now. And when you see people there, no social distancing, not very many masks, on this particular shot im looking, im struggling to try to find someone with a mask. Maybe there is someone in that crowd, maybe not. What goes through your mind . Is this the impact of the mixed messaging . Its not mixed from the president. Its clear from the president. The president says weve turned the corner, despite the fact that every single day more than 1,000 americans die, every single day, about 40,000 americans contract this virus. And that has not budged all summer long. The president wants to have these rallies to perpetuate this myth that were done with this, except the virus doesnt listen to him, and the virus continues to kill about 1,000 americans. If the new projections of 400,000 deaths by new years is correct, well start to double the number of daily deaths. So when the go ahead, anna. When you say were going to be doubling the number of daily deaths, i have this reaction thats hard to stop, because were already at about 1,000 deaths a day, right . And then we have this new modelling, it could be double what weve seen right now. According to the imhe, theyre saying 415,000 people will be dead by january. Worst Case Scenario<\/a> we could see up to 10,000 deaths a day in december. 10,000 deaths a day when we have about 1,000 now, and were seeing that start to slowly come down a little bit, how do you get from here to there . You get from here to there by doing what the president is doing, which is encouraging his supporters to come out, not to wear masks and basically call much of this a hoax. What the president should be doing is basically doing what churchill really did, which was rallying the British Public<\/a> and telling them were going to fight everywhere, were going to fight on the beaches, in the streets. This president should be saying, were going to hunker down, get through the winter, were going to protect each other, because a vaccine is coming. Until that point we need to protect each ear, and were going to protect each other by social distancing and getting everyone in this country to wear a mask. If we need to, well shut down schools and go to Distance Learning<\/a> for colleges. Well do what it takes to preserve life. Thats the message our leaders should be giving, not were turning a corner, were opening up, not urging places like new york to open faster, its the wrong message. Its not mixed, its simply wrong. We all need to be prepared. Dr. Jonathan reinert, thank you so much for your expertise. My pleasure. President trump today announcing plans to see for himself the enormous and deadly destruction on the u. S. West coast, the wildfires about 100 of them are raging across california, oregon and washington state. Not only in forests and canyons, now in residential areas as well. Entire towns have been destroyed. Thousands of people have fled their homes this weekend, not knowing if anything will still be there when they return. Paul vercammen is northeast of los angeles right now, show us the area around you, and has the danger completely passed where you are . Well, no, you can hear the roar of helicopters, thats over here in this distance behind me, one canyon over, this is a neighborhood with an evacuation warning. The smoke is so thick, we can hardly see that way, we know that a firefight is going on. About this air pollution, we should note that the entire west coast is enduring unimaginably poor air quality as weve been talking about for a week. It is worse than the most polluted cities in asia right now, we talked to some people in this neighborhood. Its been a long harrowing week as they describe. Its horrific to even want to open your windows, you cant do it because the air is so bad. 30 plus years ago, i quit smoking, but ive started again in the last six days just from the air. I actually had a bunch of things by the front door. I said it looked pretty bad i was going toe get out of here. Im a musician, i have a lot of guitars, a lot of recording equipment. I loaded up all the stuff in my truck, backed the truck to the gate in case i had to make a mistake, and that was it, its still sitting there. We can hear the helicopters behind me. This firefight has come to this. Theyve been lighting fires on this fire. To show you how taxed the system is in california, the chief telling me, normally this would require 1500 firefighters maximum. Theyre down to 500, thats how spread out they are, theyre being tactical and judicious. These are trying times for all these firefighters. 29,000 they estimate are fighting fires right now in the west. Already 27 people have lost their lives in california and oregon, including a 13yearold boy. Paul vercammen, thank you for that update. Wishing everyone there saiflt. Bob woodward has made his career tormenting president s. Why did President Trump<\/a> think he could avoid that same fate when he agreed to 18 on the record interviews . [narrator] did you just reward yourself for spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub . Grubhubs gonna reward you for that with a 5 off perk. doorbell rings [crowd] grubhub fireworks exploding monitoring patients in hospitals around the world so that doctors and nurses can make sure you feel safe. As new challenges have arisen, weve grown to bring that same safety and support to the place that you want to be most. Together. Masimo. Together in hospital. Together at home. He used to have gum problems. Now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinicallyproven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. crowd applauding therabreath, its a better mouthwash. At walmart, target and other fine stores. It may be the biggest question of the wonder whetherr not somebody like that can write good. I dont think he can, but lets see what happens. Brian todd takes a look back atwood wards history awith can of where president s. President trump was so confident he could get bob woodward to write a growing narrative about him, he went around his aids to talked to woodward one on one. Tats according to people who spoke with us at cnn. Bob woodward is someone i resmekt. Not knowing too much about his work, i thought it would be interesting to talk to him. Trump spoke to woodward 18 times, after not speaking to him for woodwards first book. Trump brags about a now not secret weapon. I have built a nuclear a weapons system that nobodys had in this country before. In the wake of the explosive excerpts, including the revelation that trump downplayed the coronavirus pandemic to the American People<\/a>. Observers believe the president may have miscalculated. His ego got the best of him, he thought he could spin and charm a bob woodward. Anybody who knows bob knows thats a possible task. Ears who have occupied the oval off the have had similar experiences. Bob woodward has written best selling books on nine president s. Barack obama, george w. Bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter granted him interviews. Aids to obama and bush sparred with woodward after the publication. Its not clear if Ronald Reagan<\/a> or george bush sr. Spoke to woodward. I have some major differences in bob woodward, its no point going into them, were not on close terms at all. Trump himself is quoted as saying, i hope you treat me better than bush, you made him look like a stupid moron which he was. Richard nixon and gerald ford are not thought to have spoken with woodward. Observers call it the woodward mistake that president s speak to him. The ability he has to get president s to talk and does it by saying, ive talked to everybody else in your administration but you is unnerving. Woodward often speaks to scores of people inside administrations, before asking a president for an interview. And his sources are impeccable. We asked Susan Glasser<\/a> a former editor what makes a washington insider decide whether to talk to woodward or not. Those who cooperate with woodward generally do have a better chance to get their story out. But if someone made that argument to President Trump<\/a> in getting him to cooperate with woodward. There was a fatal error probably missing there, which is to say, if youre the president , you know, you dont get to spin woodward. The observers we spoke to say one thing President Trump<\/a> could have done. Which president s obama and george w. Bush did was to have aids present during the interview. It appears that President Trump<\/a> did neither. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Of course, bob woodward along with Carl Bernstein<\/a> became journalism legends in the 1970s. Joining us now to discuss woodwards reporting is the other half of that dynamic duo, Carl Bernstein<\/a>. Always good to talk with you. When you have the president s own words on tape, of course, that was nixons undoing, the fact that President Trump<\/a> even sat down with woodward, is it as if nixon had mailed you the tapes himself . Are they that damning . Theyre worse than nixons watergate tapes. What they reveal is a president ial felony on a scale weve never seen in this country before. Weve never seen a president as trump has done here. Ignore thele th and well being of the American People<\/a> put his own reelection interests in front of his basic job, which is to protect the American People<\/a>, and to protect the United States<\/a> from enemies, foreign and domestic. This is an enemy he was warned about and we hear it on tape in a way weve never heard such an event before. And what does the president of the United States<\/a> do . He decides that, okay, thousands of lives are going to be lost here, and its evident that those lives have been lost unnecessarily. Because of his felonious negligence. Why do you think its a felony, when you call it a president ial felony. What makes you believe its an actual crime . I say a president ial felony. Its not about what title 18 of the u. S. Code says. The same way that nixons felonies were not described by title 18 necessarily. They have to do with his dereliction of duty as the president of the United States<\/a>. Weve never seen a dereliction of this kind where the lives of americans were literally sacrificed because the president decided that other narrow interests, his own go in front of the health, well being, welfare and Public Safety<\/a> of the American People<\/a>. That is felonious. We just saw him leaving there for an event in nevada where hes still willing to put other peoples lives at risk, to come and cheer him on. You know, the president made these comments to woodward about the virus. And doctors say, if he had made those comments publicly, he would have saved lives. Woodward is also being criticized for sitting on these tapes. Do you think woodward should have made the president s comments public sooner . I think if you look at the chronology of what happened, is that these comments were made in january. And then in may, bob was finally able to find out and try angulate the information about how trump learned in january that he was briefed by his National Security<\/a> adviser and deputy National Security<\/a> adviser, as to how deadly this coronavirus might be and the fact that he was warned specifically by these two high ranking National Security<\/a> officials that it could be on the scale of the pandemic of 1917 and 1918. Bob went back and did exactly what he should have done, which is to find out, what is trump telling me and why is he telling me this . Finally he uncovered this meeting, which is so dramatic in terms of what the president was told. And the president did not tell bob on the tape exactly what he was told and how he was told, that is whats so revealing and when you put the chronology together, it becomes apparent why it was revealed. The president claimed to woodward, and he has continued to claim that he is downplaying the coronavirus because he doesnt want to cause a panic. And yet that same logic just flies in the face of what hes been saying about mail in voting and threats of riots in the suburbs, and past warnings hes made about an invasion at the border. I have to ask you carl given your connection to a different president , nixon, once said, people react to fear not love, they dont teach that in sunday school, but its true. President trump has said something similar as a candidate back in 2016, real power is i dont even want to use the word fear. What do you think of the way President Trump<\/a> has tried to use fear to his advantage and in the case of the coronavirus, hasnt. Its evident that scaring people, especially about imaginary dang evers based on racism, based on foreign fear of foreigners they dont exist. These things that he has tried to scare americans about. But what lets take a step back for a minute and look at what happened in january. The president , a week before the state of the Union Address<\/a> learned about this virus. What would an fdr . What would have a jfk done . If he had a state of the Union Address<\/a> coming up, i would think the president of the United States<\/a> would go before the congress and tell the American People<\/a> and the congress what we are facing, what the danger is, what we must do as a people to come together to fight this. He didnt do anything of the kind. This was not about calming anybody, this was about covering up, and that is what this president has done throughout his presidency, cover up the truth, cover up his actions, which have been either illegal or contemptible. And thats the story of his presidency. It is a criminal presidency, with a criminal president. That is what we are learning, and the greatest criminality is what he has done here in terms of endangering and causing deaths. Look what all of the Public Health<\/a> officials that we listened to on all the networks say, even on fox on occasion say about what the president has done in terms of his negligence here, people have died because of this. Thats what this is so unique. Carl bernstein, i always have appreciation for your voice, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. Quick programming note, be sure to tune in tomorrow for a brand new episode of race for the white house. Looking back at the race of 1976. Jimmy carter took on the incumbent president , gerald ford. That airs tonight at 10 00 right here on cnn. Californias governor says the Climate Change<\/a> debate is over. Just take a look at his state. Extreme temperatures, the site of some of the largest wildfires ever reported. Well take you to california next. The game doesnt end after a spectacular touchdown grab because theres always another team looking to punch one in. With nfl redzone from nfl network on xfinity, you get every touchdown from every game on sunday afternoons. All season long. Watch every breakout star, every heart pounding running attack and every bigtime defensive stop. Sundays were made for football on xfinity. Thats simple, easy, awesome. Add the more sports and entertainment package for nfl redzone. Click, call or visit a store today to learn more. More now on the horrific disaster happening right now on an enormous scale up and down the west coast of the u. S. Wildfires roaring through forests and towns, some of them on the way to being contained. Thousands of people have fled their homes ahead of the fires, some of which are the largest ever seen in california. Heres california governor gavin newsom. The debate is over about Climate Change<\/a>. Observe it with your own eyes. Its not debatable any longer. What we are experiencing, the extreme droughts, the extreme atmospheric rivers, the extreme heat. Joining us now, california congressman john garamendi. Let me start by saying, all our prayers are with everyone impacted. The president is planning to visit california on monday. Hes going to be meeting with some of the people there who are battling the fires. In the past, the president has blamed force management when wildfires erupted like this. Do you feel youre getting enough support from the white house . First, thank you for your thoughts about the losses we have here. Both human as well as property losses. Clearly the white house doesnt understand or doesnt want to understand that these fires are a direct result of Climate Change<\/a>. Governor newsom said it absolutely correct, back in 1998, 22 years ago, i was part of a team at the federal government, deputy secretary. In the runup to the kyoto conference, preparing al gore for that, we stated then exactly what is happening today. There would be more fires, bigger hurricanes. There would be sea level rise. All of these things we have known, it is happening each year, it gets worse, it gets hotter, the fires are raging more, and now up and down areas of the west coast which were not accustomed to large fires, oregon, washington, its happening, it is real, the president s going to come out here, hopefully Governor Newsom<\/a> will have a chance to say, mr. President , youve got to get real on this issue. Youve got to make this a real issue. And by the way, the pandemics were also predicted back in 1998, these illnesses would be coming our way as a result in part Climate Change<\/a>. We look at these images and it hits home, how devastating these fires have been. We do know the white house is helping to provide some 26,000 personnel, and 230 helicopters have been deployed to help in the firefight. You talk about prevention when it comes to Climate Change<\/a>, as far as the response now in dealing with the emergency at hand. What else is needed . Whats needed is for people to be prepared to evacuate. When the winds and the temperature combine, theres virtually nothing you can do to stop a fire until the weather changes. You can do some backfiring, some things need to be done, mostly people are prepared to get out of the way. Thats part of what needs to be done. Way back when we were representing people always be prepared to leave. Have your go back ready, be sure the important things are there, the documents, the cat, the dog, take a video of your house, inside every closet. Thats going to save you a lot of hassle when it comes time for insurance settlement. In addition to that, we need to manage our forests better. Its not a matter of bringing a rake, its a matter of managing the forests. Weve famed to do that over the last century. We have a program in place where the federal fire feistifighting does not rob the forest account. The president is coming out, the president needs to be aware that the state and local governments are running out of money. Their revenues have simply dried up because of the pandemic. We need the here roys political, we need to get that money to the state and local government. Otherwide there wont be the Services Necessary<\/a> to do the evacuations, take care of people and educate our children. You sit on the Armed Services<\/a> committee, i want to get some other news. The day after the anniversary of the terrorist attack on september 11th. Mike pompeo is meeting with members of the taliban, some people would bristle at the timing. At the end of the day, is this what needs to happen to get peace after 40 years of war . Is this a step in the right direction . Yes, it is. These talks are very very important. Very critical elements in the talks, is that afghanistan does not become ever again a haven for terrorists. These where 9 11 began, and thats where it was put together. And from there, 9 11 did happen. Thats part of what we need to do, also there needs to be a reasonable settlement among the warring powers in the area. Its going to be difficult. Afghanistan has a 2,000 year history of fighting not only among themselves but with their neighbors, its been the invasion route from alexander the great and the British Empire<\/a> and now the United States<\/a>. Yes, these talks are extremely important, hopefully they will result in a reasonable settlement, one in which would allow the United States<\/a> to not have a heavy footprint. Goingforward we need to continue to Pay Attention<\/a> to afghanistan. Because backsliding is a very real possibility. When you talk about the u. S. Footprint there, we learned this week, the Trump Administration<\/a> is planning to draw down troops to 45000 by this fall. Some of the military leaders have said, perhaps have everybody out by april. Former Vice President<\/a> joe biden was asked about the troop drawdown, he appeared to support this move. What do you have to say about iraq and begafghanistan. Do you agree with the troop draw down in afghanistan right now. What is the future of afghanistan, how are they going to put the government together. And will it ever become once again a haven for terrorists. Well see, thats what the negotiations are about, the Vice President<\/a> is correct. Yes . It would be good to move our troops out of there, however. Lets not have another 9 11 coming from afghanistan. Lets get those negotiations done correctly. Lets make sure the necessary implementations are in place. And as reagan said, trust and verify. Make sure there are mechanisms in place that will guarantee that afghanistan will not again become a haven for terrorism. John garamendi thank you for joining us tonight. You and the west coast are in our thoughts. Thank you for your thoughts. Up next, the final showdown at the u. S. Open between naomi and victoria. Victoria landing her spot after beating serena williams. Our agents helped make saving on insurance easy usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa i see you found the snacks. Mmm, delicious i need this recipe. Everyone thinks i made them, but its actually dcon. What was that . Judy . Dcon. Mice love it to death. Happening right now. The showdown in tennis. Cnn correspondent carolyn mannos joining us from flushing meadows new york, i understand the first set just wrapped up, whos ahead right now. Good evening, anna, victoria took the first set, her maturity shininging through. Naomi came out a little tight. Right now shes looking like she has to battle back here. Theres a lot of tenets to be played. I expect it to be a battle that goes three sets. Naomi and victoria feel a little bit like destiny to be meeting at this point. First time in a final in seven years. She won the western and southern open a couple weeks ago. This has been a mental grind on and off the court. She came into Arthur Ashe Stadium<\/a> wearing the name tamir rice, a black boy killed by police in 2014. The confidence shes shown before this tournament began that she was going to make seven masks, each one of those masks was going to bear the name of a victim of social justice. To follow through in a major like this, the first major back since the pandemic, and prove to everyone what it means to her. Its a lot of emotional pressure off the court. Shes shy, shes soft spoken, this has been a turning point for her in her career, and showing the world that she cares deeply about these issues and she wants to be part of a broader conversation. It has been impactful. We will keep our viewers up to date on the tournament as well. The challenges of being latino in hollywood. I go one on one with john leguizamo. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. Apps except work. Rywhere. Why is that . Is it because people love filling out forms . Maybe they like checking with their supervisor to see how much Vacation Time<\/a> they have. 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With issues of race at the forefront of the conversation right now. John leguizamo is opening up about the challenges of being a latino in hollywood. Critical thinking tells the true story of a cuban American Teacher<\/a> and his championship winning chess team in miami. I sat down with a the actor in my work for amanpour and company. Heres part of our conversation. What has been your experience in hollywood being a latino. I know when i started out, we were all in the same acting classes, they were going to five auditions a day, and i was going to one every five months. Always for something incredibly negative and demeaning. Thats why i started to write my own plays, because i was sick of having to play a dark side of humanity, because im latin and that was not my experience of the people i saw. And in hollywood, i pitch this movie, were 20 of the population if you include undocumented immigrants, and were 25 of the u. S. Box office. But less than 4 of the faces in front of the camera. The gatekeepers are latin, if we need executives who are latin and see the value of our stories, who appreciate us. Where there are no gatekeepers, we win, like in music. J. Balance add is the number one star on spot phi. He beat drake. Why . Because you can measure that. Camilla cabella is top 10. Cardi b, why . You can measure those scams. Why . You have stats. You can measure latinas. When its a gatekeeper we have to rely on his opinion or taste, we lose. They will tell me, john, latin people dont want to see latin people, im going what . Show me some stats. There were none. Their wisdom and you assume it was research, but that cant be research. We have this just in to cnn, mike pence will no longer attend a fundraiser hosted by qanon supporters. Saying its a scheduling conflict. The Vice President<\/a> had been criticized for this upcoming event. Pence is now expected to hold rallies in montana and wisconsin instead. Plus, we are tracking the formation of another Tropical Storm<\/a> in the gulf of mexico. This is Tropical Storm<\/a> sally developing. The 18th named storm of the 2020 atlantaic hurricane season. And sally is expected to strengthen throughout the weekend and is forecast to become a hurricane by monday night. Prior to making landfall around the Louisiana Mississippi<\/a> border tuesday morning. Up next, we take you live to nevada, the site of President Trump<\/a>s latest rally, and you can see the crowds already gathering. It comes less than one week after the release of those tapes in which the president acknowledging just how deadly the coronavirus is. These comments were back in february. He didnt tell the public what he told bob woodward in private. What the campaign is doing or not doing to keep his supporters safe today. Since your ancestors served in world war two. Many of their stories remain untold. Find and honor the veterans in your family. Their stories live on at ancestry. At morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. We see companies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. We see a bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge. Today, we are translating decades of experience into strategies for the road ahead. We are morgan stanley. Thanks so much for joining us, youre live in the cnn newsroom, im anna cabrera in new york. People packed in lines to see the president speaking at a rall letter that does not get underway for the next five hours. The secretary of the department of health and Human Services<\/a> is telling cnn today the science based Decision Making<\/a> has saved lives. 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