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Evidence as well as evidence gathered at the scene of the bombing. As importantly as the name of the bomber federal officials are also confirming their belief the suspect acted alone. Well go to nashville where police and investigators just addressed the public. We got a slew of information in the past few hours. Update us please. Reporter yes. Most significantly publicly we now know the name as you said anthony quin warner, 63 years old. The way the police and fbi here are describing how they were able to identify this individual is really remarkable. Some of it is luck. Some is just good investigative work. Some of it is tips from the public that came into them in the moments after this blast and also after they released a photo of that rv. What Authorities Say ultimately is the Human Remains Found on at the blast site came back to the bomber. The other thing authorities describe is how they went about identifying the bomber so quickly and here is some of what they said about that. This is a massive blast. How are you able to find that vin number . Our special agents are trained in that. They were able to come out starting christmas night and came again when it was daylight, the next day, yesterday, and helped identify all the particular vehicle parts. So there was a vehicle part that you found in the debris that ultimately led to the identification . I cant it did connect the vehicle to the suspect. I believe tips and other information came in. It is a vehicle part that they found. Im told by someone familiar with the investigation that actually despite the force of this blast the explosion, authorities were able to recover enough of a part of this rv and discovered what is commonly referred to as the vin number, the vehicle identification number. With that number they were then able to trace who owned the rv and almost immediately within hours of this blast authorities here were able to work off of that identification. That is how they, in the beginning of this investigation, identified who they thought may be responsible. Then there were also tips and other information that they gathered that led them to this person and to identification. The investigation, however, is not over, right . There is a very large crime scene where you are. We dont know what the motive was although officials are saying theyre confident this man Anthony Warner, 63yearold Anthony Warner, acted alone, but there is still a lot of evidence to sift through and more questions to be answered. Certainly the debris field, the evidence from that is still pains takingly theyre still going through that because there is a lot of debris. The reason theyre going through that debris is trying to find out what explosives were used in this explosion in making this bomb. The fbi is working this minute by minute, you know, with the dna sample and the human tissue they actually took that and flew it to quantico, virginia. They also flew dna samples from the bombers family and that is how they were able to make this match so quickly. As to the motive, that is something that is also very consuming and it is taking a lot of the investigators time. They are trying to figure out what happened here, why this individual what sparked this individual. They dont know. Ive talked to several people now and honestly theres a lot of speculation out there about 5g, about other issues going on in this mans life but it could be several things and that is what they are working through. Certainly theyre looking at his history, where he worked, what he did in the days and weeks and months leading up to him doing this. This is all part of the investigation. And honestly, you know, as one person put it to me, we could get to a point where there is no clear cut motive. Weve seen this in other incidents like the Las Vegas Shooting where authorities dont come to one clear motive. There is a lot sometimes that is going on in peoples lives that triggers different events and this could be one of those things that something could have triggered this. They may never know exactly what it is. It is hard to believe. But that is very much a possibility in this situation. That is a fair point. Really appreciate all the reporting youve been doing the last few days. Thank you so much, shimon. Lets get Andrew Mccabe into this conversation now the former deputy fbi director and now a cnn senior Law Enforcement analyst. I want your thoughts on the latest developments. You have federal, state, local officials making this major announcement a couple hours ago, i think about an hour ago, where they said it is Anthony Warner a 63yearold man who is the suicide bomber. They were able to identify him two days after this Christmas Day explosion and say he was the one that detonated the bomb, died in the bombing, they believed no one else was involved in this, no other threats right now to be concerned about, they also say this man was not on authorities radar. Is that unusual to you . It is really not unusual. In fact, that is one of the most terrifying moments when youre working a case like this and i unfortunately had this experience many times over my career at the fbi when you finally identified your perpetrator you make the first search through your internal data bases to see if you knew this person before, if theyd ever been investigated or come across our radar in any way, and you hope to god that its not someone who you were looking at and then looked away from and then they did Something Like this. In this case it appears that this person was unknown to Law Enforcement. I think it was fascinating, some of the things we learned in this press conference. It is pretty clear that they were confident from the very beginning even if they didnt tell us this fact that the bomber blew up inside the rv. Its clear the reason for that is because of the extensive Video Surveillance on this block. Essentially they were able to go back on the surveillance, see the rv pull to the side of the road and then they could essentially watch it after the fact and see that no one ever got out of it. No other people got into it. No one got out and was picked up by a second person. So they know from the very beginning that the bomber died in that rv. Once they find the human remains on the scene, they now have the remains of the bomber. The question is do those remains belong to the owner of the rv . They found the owner of the rv from the vehicle part shimon was talking about. They can then get a sample from his family of his dna. They compare that to the remains they have and, press tto, a 100 confirmation of who the bomber is and the fact he died on the scene. There are so many bizarre details about this bombing especially the audio warnings that were playing just before the rv exploded, andrew, and then one of the responding officers reporting that he had heard music playing from the rv right before the explosion. And had seen surveillance camera, at least one surveillance camera on the rear view mirror and it led the Police Officer to believe that they were being recorded or watched in some way. What do you make of all that . Really hard to draw conclusions from those details at this point and, hopefully, well get to the bottom of this with more information from the search of the residence and those sorts of things. You know, it is very similar to the las vegas shooter who also set up a Video Surveillance around the entrance to his hotel room before he began his shooting spree. Were not quite sure why he did that either. But it is not something we havent seen before. I think theres a lot we need to know about this man and his background and his beliefs and what sort of message or potentially ideology he may have been pursuing with this act. I know we are not to the point where were ready to say this was an act of terrorism as the fbi indicated today. They are not quite there yet. But on the other hand it is also hard to imagine that someone who con struk constructs a device of this magnitude and blows it up in a public place on a downtown street on Christmas Day wasnt trying to send a message. That is the job for the fbi and their partners right now to sift through every aspect of this persons life to try to understand what he was thinking and what he might have been trying to say with this act. Youre right. The fbi not calling this terrorism just yet. What needs to happen or what is required to label something domestic terrorism . So the fbi definition of domestic terrorism is a violent criminal act committed by a person or group in pursuit of a goal or agenda tied to a particular ideology. That could be political ideology, religious ideology, social concerns, environmental concerns, and so what the fbi is looking for is some expression by Anthony Warner about his interest in or pursuit of Something Like that. So if theyll go back and look everything from his house, his writings, the things he was reading, his browser history on any internet connected devices. Theyll look at the people he was speaking to on the phone and may have been exchanging emails with. All in an effort to find out what was he thinking . And if they find that he was motivated by an ideology and thats connected to this act, then you have a situation of domestic terrorism. I have to ask you about why officials are so confident, andrew, that there are no other threats . Because they had declared that pretty early on in the investigation and then we of course saw this white box truck. We dont know if its related in any way and the person, the driver of the car was detained and explosives found inside the box truck earlier this afternoon but how can they be so sure . That is a great question. I think the answer lies in the way thats phrased. I think theyre not currently aware of any intelligence about any other threats. They didnt there is no indication there were any other people involved in the deployment and the setting off of this device. However, they are still early in the investigation. The sort of things that theyll go through will tell them whether or not he was actually working with other people to learn how to build the device, to fund its acquisition, to put it together, and so i would be really careful before i lean maybe quite as far forward as they are right now and saying there is absolutely no one else involved and no other threats. I think they have a little more work to do to be a hundred percent confident. Always appreciate your expertise and time, Andrew Mccabe. Happy new year to you and thank you. Thank you. You as well. Breaking news. Cnn learning white house staff made plans for President Trump to sign the covid relief bill, even having it flown to maralago, when suddenly the signing ceremony they had planned was canceled. Details are next. Ence in people. My team helped expand the benefits of reflective technology, so its highly visible when it needs to be, and less visible when it doesnt. Whether youre hard at work or heading home for dinner, its there when it matters most. We know that what we do helps more people get home safely. At 3m, we aspire to improve lives. combative yelling he used to have bad breath. Now, he uses a capful of therabreath fresh breath oral rinse to keep his breath smelling great, all day long. combative yelling therabreath, its a better mouthwash. 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The bill was flown there for his signature. But the signing didnt happen obviously. Sources saying the plan got scrapped at the very last minute. Cnns Jeremy Diamond is in west palm beach, florida with the details. What happened . Reporter well, this is the reporting from my colleagues. They report that staff at maralago began making plans for the president to sign this desperately needed corona relif bill and the Government Spending bill at maralago on Christmas Eve. That would be thursday evening. The ceremony was set for 7 00 p. M. , a ceremonial desk, chair, and even the pens the president uses to sign legislation were all at the ready and at the last minute two sources familiar with the matter say that those plans were scrapped. One source is saying the president changed his mind on signing that legislation. The other source said that it wasnt clear whether the president had actually settled on signing this legislation or if the plans were simply made as a precaution but, nonetheless, we do know that that legislation was actually flown down to washington on thursday so it does appear things were in the works heading in the direction at least for the president to actually sign this legislation. Two days before that of course the president made his threat to not sign the legislation calling it a disgrace and arguing that those 600 stimulus checks to americans should be more than tripled to 2,000. Of course, since then though the president has done virtually nothing to actually get those changes brought into the legislation other than firing off a few tweets. He hasnt to our knowledge been on the phone with congressional leadership. Instead the president has spent the last three of the last four days golfing at his club here in west palm beach. Again, all of this coming as we know that tens of millions of americans are financially struggling this holiday season. More than 20 million americans are unemployed. More than 12 million of those actually lost those supplemental federal Unemployment Benefits this very weekend because the president did not sign that legislation on Christmas Eve or as recently as yesterday. So again, as of now we dont know whether the president still intends to perhaps sign the legislation or will veto it but we know this is having a real world impact on millions of americans, those who are unemployed, Small Businesses, and even keep in mind vaccine distribution. There were billions of dollars in funding for that as well in this legislation. It is quite the juxtaposition isnt it seeing video of the president golfing and refusing to sign this bill that had broad bipartisan support while so many millions of americans are suffering and seeing this is a crucial Financial Life line to them. Jeremy diamond, thank you for your reporting. Joining me now to discuss this further is Susan Glasser cnn Global Affairs analyst and staff writer for the new yorker and david gergen cnn senior political analyst and former president ial adviser in four administrations. Welcome to you both. David, i would like your reaction to this news that the staff had made plans. It looked like President Trump was about to sign this covid relief bill on Christmas Eve. It was scrapped last minute. Do you think this was just a spur of the moment thing for the president . Well never know. What we expect of our president s is to have a steady hand on the tiller guiding the ship of state to safety. And here we have a president who is acting like a drunken sailor on the bridge. Hes lurching in all sorts of directions and leaving millions of americans uncertain about where their next dollars are going to come from to put food on the table, to stay in the homes they have, to keep their cars, pay mortgages. All these things are in flux right now. I think the president was fundamentally right on one point and that is 600 as a single payment, that is what was anticipated or is anticipated, is meager. Its very little. Its right to raise the number. But if youre going to have a negotiation and youre the president of the United States you need to be a powerful player at the table. Your voice needs to be heard in the process in order to get things done. Every president has been successful, an active participant in the negotiations. This president deigned not to join the negotiations and let it slip past him. That is why it is so insane. And why we all have a sense of, this man is out of control. Susan, to what david was saying i dont think many people would disagree 600 is just not enough especially with this unprecedented economic crisis that so Many Americans are facing. Do you think that the president just needs to hurry up and sign this and then hopefully congress can come up with another bill, another relief bill . Well, that is exactly right. Talk about making the perfect, the enemy of the good. In this situation there is nothing stopping the president from signing a bill and working hard with democrats to support having a much more robust stimulus payment to americans, nothing stopping him from working with them to do that. He cho esto play golf as your report noted just now rather than to engage in any negotiations with this. I mean, there are so many metaphors. David used the drunken sailor. To me this seems like the last act of a hostage drama in which unfortunately americans are the hostages and, you know, who knows whats going to happen next . David, the president s refusal to sign the bill obviously putting the republican incum

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