Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brianna Keilar 201612

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brianna Keilar 20161206

Tower lobby. 42 seconds. One a tweet from a few hours earlier. This, boeing is building a brand new 747 air force one for future president s. Trump tweeted, but costs are out of control. More than 4 billion. Cancel order. Heres what he told reporters the plane is totally out of control. Its going to be over 4 billion. Its for air force one program, and i think its ridiculous. I think boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money. Okay. Thank you. Tonight, trump travels to North Carolina for the second stop of his socalled thank you tour. Thursday hell be visiting des moines, iowa. Then friday, grand rapids, michigan, which is a state in the midst of a recount prompted by the Green Party Candidate jill stein and ordered by a federal judge. I want to bring in my colleagues Jessica Schneider in new york. Manu raju on capitol hill for us. Jessica, you first. This kissinger visit is notable given the friction donald trump is causing with china. What do we know about this . Reporter what we know, brianna, donald trump in fact will be traveling to Henry Kissingers office here in new york city later today as opposed to meeting with him right here at trump tower. Of course, the former secretary of state has counseled donald trump regular laly met with him. Henry kissinger just arrived back here from china where he met with the president. Could he potentially be carrying a message for donald trump . Of course, donald trump ruffling many feathers in the diplomatic world among chinese officials overseas, around the globe, after his call with the leader of taiwan on friday and over the weekend those tweets about china basically slamming china, accusing them of manipulating curren currency, criticizing their military intervention in the south china sea. Of course, that has led to questions as to what exactly Donald Trumps china policy will be. Will he adhere to the u. S. One china policy . Or will there be tensions, as we move forward into his administration . Now, interestingly, Henry Kissinger actually talked to our farid farid Fareed Zakaria who said its reasonable donald trump could change stances between campaign and presidency and going on to say consistently is impractical when it comes to fluid international situations. So im sure former secretary of state Henry Kissinger will have a lot of wisdom to impart as he has been throughout the campaign and throughout this transition process. Perhaps even bearing a message from chinese president ji. And tomorrow the president elect meets with a recently unemployed american. Tell us about this. Reporter thats right, brianna. Tomorrow theres a scheduled meeting right here in new york with North Carolina governor pat mccrory. Of course, mccrory just in the past day conceding the go Gubernatorial Election to the state attorney general roy cooper. A contested election in several North Carolina counties, but finally the governor saying he will no longer contest that election and will step down from the governorship come january. The question is, when he meets with donald trump tomorrow, could any cabinet positions be on the agenda . Of course, governor mccrory will be out of a job come january. Brianna . Sure will be. Manu raju on the hill for us, tell us about what is, what really has Congressional Republicans and donald trump, it seems, at odds . This plan by donald trump to put big tariffs on u. S. Companies that move overseas . Are the right. Not just at odds. Republicans not supporting this idea. Very little, hardly any at all, support for this idea. It flies against republican orthodoxy creating lowering taxes, a Playing Field in which businesses can compete in the United States as well as opening up the borders for exports coming in to the United States. I had a chance to ask both House Speaker paul ryan and House Majority leader Kevin Mccarthy over the last two days, and neither man, the two most powerful politicians in the house of representatives, neither one of them would support this idea. Mccarthy saying he does not what he says would be a trade war going this route and paul ryan in his press Conference Today said theres other ways to achieve that goal. Rewriting the tax code. And cornyn, Number Two Senate republican issued when i had a chance to talk to him in the hallway. We need to do it through tax reform, not any individual policy. Alities pushback from republicans on capitol hill showing how difficult it is to maintain unity as soon as you start getting into the details of the legislative process here, brianna. And obama care, too, theres pushback. Repeal and immediately replace or repeal and phase in some sort of new plan . Reporter absolutely right, because they can move very quickly next year to repeal most of obama care. Doing that through the budget process next year, and effectively avoiding democrats in the senate who could filibuster if he did not go through the budget process. Replacing the law will take time. There is discussion about creating a threeyear transition period between the time that the repeal would take effect until giving them time, three years, to enact a replacement. Some conservatives including jim jordan of ohio are concerned with that threeyear approach. Take a listen. What i think also, theres talk about a threeyear transition for obama care . That needs to happen a lot quicker. A lot quicker. Reporter really . You would oppose that . We think the American People sent us here to repeal obama care flot to take three years to phase it out. Reporter and three year, what is the concern with three years . Well, americans look, i think health care will be better and cost less when obama care is gone. Why would you want to take three years to get rid of it . Right . Its that simple. Reporter some say it will take three years, because thats how long it will take to get a deal to get a replacement done. But just shows you how hard, brianna it is to get republicans behind one approach let alone cut a deal with democrats over a polarizing issue replacing obama care. Incredibly hard next year when donald trump is president and even though republicans have control of both houses of congress. Thank you so much to you both. Joined now by our panel of political experts. We have rebeccaberg and eric bragner and Cristina Alesci joining us from new york. From cnn money. One of the things donald trump talked about today, the cost of you in air force one planes, that the American Government is working with boeing to create. Whats happening here, and is this something he can do, just taking on each company one at a time . He had the Carrier Company last week. Reporter brianna a great point. Is it possible to think that the u. S. President will be negotiating company by company, deal by deal on a regular basis . Right . This is typical trump m. O. He picks a target that he knows and a message, that he knows will resonate with average people. 4 billion to the average person is a lot of money, and theres no context around this whatsoever. So hes going to get his troops, his supporters all riled up about an issue and the ceos of these companies, they know the game. I talk to them on a regular basis. Theyre happy to play ball with the president. Give him a feather, the president elect. Give him a feather in his cap. In exchange, they know they have his ear. Right . They want fewer taxes. They want to reduce their tax bill. They want less regulation. And, look, just last week i broke the news that donald trump has assembled a group of ceos who hes going to meet with on a regular basis. You know whos on that list . The former ceo and chairman of boeing. So this is this is a game that donald trump has played. Rile up the popular, you know the public, and then behind the scenes, you know, talk to the people who actually have the power to get stuff done. And boeing, out with a statement. Because that 4 billion number is so eye popping, making clear currently under contract for 170 million, a far cry from 4 billion, to determine the capabilities of these complex military aircraft, emphasizing obviously doing this in increments of government contracts and are stressing that they look forward to working with the u. S. Air force to deliver the best planes for the president at the best value for the american taxpayer. Eric, youre looking at this. This is some people look down and say, wow. Thats a bit of a shakedown. You could also look at that and say, thats really effective. Thats transactional, but really an effective way to move the bottom line here . I think its fascinating hes targeting boeing specifically, because boeing is the United States largest exporter. So when we talk about the the possibility of trade wars. Right . Trump is going after china. China is a huge boeing customer. Huge customer. When we talk about these in the weeds policies like tariffs and even the export import bank. Thats a tool that most americans might not understand, but that boeing is incredibly reliant upon in its competition with airbus, which is the big foreign airline, manufacturing. That competes with boeing everywhere in the world. So boeing is the perfect example of a company that is affected by all of these in the weeds trade policies that trump is sort of raising without much concern for what it might mean in terms of retaliation from other countries, and so boeing and other u. S. Businesses are theyre concerned. They want a seat at the table on this . Theyre afraid other countries are going to react in the a way that makes it impossible to sell u. S. Made goods there. Okay. All right. Lets talk a little bit about obama care, because as we just heard, this is an area where Congressional Republicans and donald trump are not seeing eye to eye, rebecca. Listen to what donald trump said to 60 minutes shortly after he was elected. Theres going to be a period, if you repeal it, and before you replace it, when millions of people do it simultaneously. It will be just fine. Were not going to have like a twoday period and not going to have a twoyear period where theres nothing. It will be repealed and replaced. Thats not what Congressional Republicans are saying. But i wonder if its an issue of semantics, or are there real differences . Or both . I think donald trump publicly, and for political reasons, needs to make this sound as simple as possible. Because americans dont need to be bogged down necessarily by the weeds of how this will be done. The sausage making. There is a question, brianna, whether donald trump fully understands what he is going to confront in terms of the work hes going to need to do with congress nome on repealing and replacing obama care but on all of his priorities, and he has a bunch of them. Talking about how long each of his priorities will take, his public statements suggest he doesnt really have a full understanding of how difficult it is to get anything through congress, and especially when you dont have 60 republican votes in the senate, meaning you can have democrats filibustering some of these issues, pointed on a report, theres going to need to be a deal on repealing and replacing obama care. They need a few democrats in the senate to come along on this. There are many parts to obama care. The expansion of medicaid. You know, whether its not allowing Insurance Companies to discriminate on preexisting conditions. Subsidies, exchanges. Its hard to imagine where Congressional Republicans would take those things away, leave a gap, make some consumers very unhappy, and then become politically unpopular, though . Right. And actually, the plan that House Republicans did release this year, the better way policy plan, which included their health care priorities, they actually keep a lot of obama care in place. So the part of obama care that protects people under the age of 26, keeps them on their parents plans. Protects people with preexisting conditions and ensures theyre able to get coverage. All maintained in Republican Health care plan. Actually, i think a lot of americans will be surprised how similar it ends up looking if there is a replacement . A. Change or repeal . Talk about this proposed tariff. Donald trump says, if youre an american company, go overseas, a 35 tax, and republicans are, theyre not agreeing with him. But tell us what this would mean for consumers. Look, technically the president does have some power to actually do this without congress, increase tariffs without congress, and there is precedent for it, but the reality is, that this is an extremely complicated issue, and its not going to be easy for donald trump to do this. Look, just to give you an example how complicated it is, he would have to set a standard by which companies would have to follow to be exempt on these tariffs. How much of the product is made in the u. S. . Right . Think about that. This shirt, for example. The yarn could come from india. It could be assembled in china, it could be stitched in italy. Like, there are so many different places now where our goods are made. He would have to come up with a standard to set and say, okay. 50 of the product has to be manufactured in the United States to avoid these tariffs. Thats just one complication. Lets just not even talk about some of the others. In fact, u. S. Trade representatives around the world are a little bit, seen as ineffective, because theres so many different constituencies here that its almost impossible to get anything actually done. I think what donald trump wants to do is get rid of multilateral trade agreements. He wants them to be more focused, which is great, but, again, this is the beginning of a deal. This is a beginning of a negotiation, and its partially a message to china, to say, we dont like, you know his point is, we dont like the currency manipulation. We think it makes your goods a lot cheaper, and its an unfair advantage that the u. S. Would like to even out, and i think thats in general trumps message to both the Business Community and to china. Well see how that is received. Cristina alesci, eric berger, thank you all very. Vice president elect mike pence talking to jake tapper today on the lead. This is going to start at 4 00 p. M. Right here on cnn. Tune in to see what he says. Coming up, that tragic fire inside an oakland, california, warehouse. 36 people killed. There are countless questions. Whats next for investigators . Well talk to a former atf agent who can answer that question. Investigators are back inside the oakland, california, building that was a scene of a horrific fire that killed 36 people. Concerns about a Building Collapse halted investigations yesterday. Theyve cleared 85 of the building and dont think the death toll will continue to rise at this point but it doesnt mean the search for victims is over. Cnns Paul Vercammen is in oakland for us. Weve been hearing from the man who leased this building who many people are pointing fingers at. Basically the landlord. Whats he been saying . Reporter well, derick ion almena is the man has ran this, the manager, now in the cross hairs of investigation. Many people pressing him, wondering why this place seemingly became a death trap, and he is now answering with just raw emotion, brianna. Lets listen. I would rather get on the floor and be trampled by the parents id rather let them tear my flesh than answer these ridiculous questions mr. Almena im so sorry. Im incredibly sorry. What do you want me to say . Im not going to answer these questions. Then we will call this i just want to say that i am sorry. Then well end the interview there, mr. Almena. Soul accountable, yet to hold my soul accountable for believing in something. Reporter the manager of this place they called ghost ship. Where was he the night of the fire . They decided to stay in a hotel because of concerns about that, the Electronic Dance Party getting too loud for the children. Back to you, brianna. All right, Paul Vercammen, thank you so much for that report. As the recovery operations wind down, the focus is shifting to the investigation. I want to bring in matthew horace, special agent in charge of a National Response team for the atf. Matthew, this is the kind of incident, maybe not specifically this one, but somewhat similar, that it was your job to investigate at the atf. Whats the first thing that investigators are doing when they get to the scene of this kind of tragedy and here in the days since the fire . Brianna, as you know, the first priority, try to secure the scene so that investigators can get in to what we call the hole and begin the arduous process of cause and origin. We use certified fire investigators. Atf that the best in the world and try to determine where that fire began, how it began. Well use arson skellerants sniffing canines to evaluate the prop determining in an accelerant was introduced to the environment. If it was electrical. Hazards that existed prior to the fire in the warehouse setting that helped cause the fire and accelerate it. I spoke yesterday with a councilman in oakland who lives not far from this area and also a woman who lived for several months at ghost ship, who talked about there being sparks from electrical cords and this kind of thing being a normal occurrence. Listen to what they said. I i expected it to be shut down a long time ago. I called the police tree times myself. They escorted me out of that place when i was living there. So they were in there to escort me out. The politicice were there every single night when i was there. I called several times myself. All knew on first name, derek, michael, there on a regular basis. Explained everything when i was leaving. Pol

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