Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201407

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin July 9, 2014

Landing, because he is going to the very state that is ground zero for the nations immigration crisis. Where border facilities are absolutely inundated with these migrant kids trying to illegally cross into the United States. The president will be fewer than 400 miles away from what his own people call an urgent humanitarian problem. And yet he is not headed to see the overcrowded and underequipped facilities along the border. To it add to this turbulence, if you will, for the president , he will be meeting with rick perry, the republican governor of texas, who has been called the president s chief antagonizer. Especially when it comes to this issue of immigration. It is an issue, its a problem, and involves a law passed six years ago by a president from perrys own party, george w. Bush. Here is cnns ed lavandera. Reporter 52,000, thats how many unaccompanied children the department of Homeland Security says have crossed into the United States since october. Its right at double the amount from the same period a year earlier. Many are caught by Border Patrol and placed here at detention facilities where they are held, screened and cataloged, but then what . A 2008 law passed with bipartisan support and signed by then president bush, in the final days of his presidency, is complicating the issue. Its called the William Wilber force trafficking victims protection reauthorization act. The law prohibits a quick deportation for children from nonbordering countries, and requires they receive an opportunity before an immigration judge to determine their future status. Could be anywhere from a year before the kids end up going to Immigration Court. They could have several hearings throughout their entire Immigration Court process. So really just depends on the child and their remedies and, you know, whats if they have representation. Reporter it was intended to prevent child sex trafficking, but the recent flood of migrants has produced unintended consequences. The Obama Administration says the law is limiting its ability to deal with the crisis, and is asking congress for changes to help expedite the deportation process. The hearings will determine if the children will qualify for humanitarian relief and be allowed to stay. But according to white house officials, most will not, so they will be deported. But thats not expected to be easy either. A judges deportation order must be carried out by immigration and customs enforcement, which has its own priorities on who should be deported. Children are going to generally be on the lower end of the spectrum, because, you know, whats a 5yearold kid what kind of crime can he really commit in the United States, versus, you know, maybe somebody who Drug Trafficking or something other undesirable crime . Reporter meaning these children could be caught in legal limbo for some time to come. Ed lavandera, cnn, dallas. Ed, thank you. I also just want you to note the timing of the president s visit to texas. Because this is just one day after president obama asked congress for nearly 4 billion to, among other things, help process the migrants trying to get in for more Border Security and members of his own party are expressing concern how this money will be spent as we saw in a Senate Hearing today. This group of children that have no paperwork, or little paperwork, many have no birth certificates, so i am really concerned about this, as aall of us are. Joining me from capitol hill, congressman jeff denim, a republican from california. Welcome. Thanks for having me again. You represent a border district and toured your states border, saw the guards down there. Can you just tell me what you are seeing yourself with your own two eyes and what youre hearing from your constituents back home about this . Well, ive been fighting for Immigration Reform for quite some time, and ive always said that Border Security comes first. So i went down to the border with a bipartisan group. We wanted to see exactly what was happening on other southern border, where in san diego, we have got some of the most stringent policies. Two sets of fences. We have cameras, weve got motion detectors. We are detecting tunnels. Border patrol is doing some very good things. But even on that area, were still seeing families, mothers with children coming across, asking for asylum. We witnessed it firsthand. Okay. So youve seen with your own eyes the issues at play here. That are now really front and center. And so in terms of the politics and where youre standing and joining me, its been more than a year. You know this, since the Senate Passed that comprehensive immigration overhaul. It has been held up in the house by your republican colleagues. And i know that you are in this unique position, congressman, because you are among this handful of House Republicans who want to act on Immigration Reform this year. In contrast from what we heard on john boehner on the president s 4 billion proposal. Here he was. The president s request, its all more about continuing to deal with the problem. Weve got to do something about seeing seeing the border and ending this problem so we can begin to move on with a bigger question of Immigration Reform. I imagine you agree with Speaker Boehner when it comes to securing the border. But in terms of you being that handful of republicans, congressman denham, how will you convince your colleagues on this issue, and this issue happening this year . The biggest part of this is actually starting the debate. You know, many of my colleagues looked at this as being a california problem. This is a National Problem that the entire nation is really feeling today. But the nation, sir forgive me for jumping in. This debate has been going on for years. Decades. Absolutely. This is over a 30year problem that even when democrats had control of both houses and the presidency, they decided it wasnt a big enough issue. And now this president has said, since 2011, the border is secure. Well, to convince not only republican colleagues, but to convince the american public, we have to give them the assurances were going to seal the border once and for all and have a legal and fair system that follows the rule of law. So how exactly do we assure them of that . This is such a nuanced and complicated issue. What is your numberone fix . Well, we had a bipartisan bill come out almost a year ago now, the mccaul bill had bipartisan support. In fact, unanimous support coming out of Homeland Security. But our border is different among all of the different states. In texas, for example, were seeing this big surge. Right. Weve got millions of acres of no fence, no cameras. In fact, Border Control cant even go into that department of interior, department of forestry area. So its a big, complicated issue. Weve got a bipartisan bill, we need to get that to the floor and actually see the support. You mentioned, you know, obviously the porous parts of the border, and we have been talking so much this issue with these children, as many as 80,000 undocumented kids, the number we have, will be crossing illegally this year. And as it comes to these little boys and girls, congressman, do you think they should be able to stay . You know, i think that were going to have to address the court system first. This backlog in the courts is not only creating an unjust system with huge backlogs and long waits, but its also creating this whole other issue with Border Patrol being able to do their job today. So i think the courts come first, and then we have to assess and deport those to their native countries as we see fit. Are there exceptions, though . With those kids . Oh, absolutely. Were a great nation. There are always going to be exceptions. But we need to deal with those through the court system. Like what . Just put you on the spot. Like what specifically . Well, i mean, certainly this is a humanitarian crisis. We need the president to be actually reaching out to these heads of states to find out exactly what their issues are so we can address them ourselves. You represent you are in this unique position, representing this border district here in california. So you know, when were talking about children coming across the border, and i hear you loud and clear, with the court system, and a lot of people agree with you. But there are exceptions to that in terms of allowing some of these children to stay over, be it abuse, being parts of gangs, what have you, back home, lets say in their Central American country. I just want to hear from you specifically what kin kinds of exceptions you would be willing to accept. You know, ive been concerned about the 11. 5 million undocumented we have today. And part of the concern is right now Border Patrol is telling us theyve got a catch and release policy. So many of these kids that are could copying across the border are being sent to different areas in my state, across the country, where theyre going to be staying with parents or relatives. Whether or not theyre documented or not. So we have to address it internally and within our own country first. We have to address this problem at the border. And then we actually have to assess this tens of thousands of kids. And really assess what different challenges are they facing. Part of you know, what you heard in the Senate Hearing was that there is very little documentation. There is very few identification or birth certificates to even identify where they go back to. So you can even tell if their story is true. So weve got a lot of work to do ahead of us. Right. You do, congressman and i really truly appreciate the time you spent with me there. Well let you get back to work. Congressman denham, i appreciate it. And we will have much more on whats happening as far as immigration, the president in text today. Well have a debate later this hour. Crossfire host van jones and s. E. Cupp will weigh in. Now to this. Investigators, they have been conducting this chilling reenactment of the day that georgia father left his toddler in that hot car. In fact, look at this. That was the exact car seat little cooper died in three weeks ago. A local atlanta tv station, waga, was rolling with their cameras as police drive Justin Ross Harris car into his workplace, that home depot parking lot, to replicate the conditions inside that suv back in june. The last time this car was parked in this spot, it was on another 90degree day. But prosecutors claim the temperature inside the car soared well above 100 degrees. Joining me now, hlns jane velezmitchell is following the story very, very closely. So jane, its incredible to see these pictures, first of all, these investigators conducting these tests. How important will this heat testing be in making a case against this father . Well, its absolutely crucial, brooke. This child, prosecutors want to show, died a brutal death. This car became a torture chamber. They cant just say that, though. They have to back it up with scientific facts. So they take the actual car back to the actual spot in a similar day and they do tests so that they can deliver all this information to the jury. And when they are talking about how he had scratches to his face that were not healed and abrasions to the back of his head, they can really scientifically paint a picture that this child suffered in an unimaginable way. I really shudder to think what this child went through. Also, the time line of the dad goes into the office at about 9 25 that morning. He goes to lunch on. On the way back from lunch, we all know he infamously stops at the car to open the door and throw in some light bulbs he bought. Now, experts believe at that time the child is already dead. So they have to back that up with scientific fact, too, by ascertaining the temperatures inside that car. So its the science, its the numbers, thats what theyre getting at today. We found out it was the district attorneys investigators out in that parking lot. And Something Else that jumped out at me, watching this video twice today, the first time were actually seeing the precise parking spot where ross harris parked his car, with cooper inside. And i dont know why in my head i pictured some garage, parking garage or maybe parking the car away from somewhere. It is in the middle of this packed parking area for anyone to see. Well, prosecutors believe that ross harris planned this. They have used the word intentional in the probable cause hearing. So if thats true if he deserves his day in court. He would have to do that in a place where and it shudders for me to say this, he would have to give the child enough time to die. So what better place than the office . So he goes in and he knows hes going to spend several hours inside the office. He has to park in a place where he always parks, because if he parks somewhere else, far away, that would be very suspicious. So the Police Believe this was meticulously planned. We watch, we wait for this toxicology result to come back on little cooper as well. Jane velezmitchell, thank you so much. Well continue this conversation, unfortunately. Coming up next, this house once belonged to a suspected serial killer, and the woman who happens to be renting, living inside, she saw this home, her home, on a tv show about murderers. And when she went to her landlord to tell what she saw, guess what . The landlord turned out to be the suspected serial killers mother. And thats just the beginning of the story. You have to stick around for this. Also, israels leaders warning the operation attacking gaza will be expanding, saying the military is, quote, prepared for all possibilities, and palestinians call an emergency Cabinet Meeting today as israeli air strikes are targeting gaza. We have a live report on the he is isca lating tensions in the middle east. Stay right here with me. Shopping online is as easy as it gets. 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This missouri woman is thrilled to be moving into a rental house. Its a nice neighborhood, tree lined street, you get it. So it wasnt until one of katrina mcgraws family members called her up, told her to turn on the tv and watch this a e document ary and thats when it hit her. Her house was being featured on this cold case serial killers. But its what mcgraw says allegedly happened downstairs that freaks her out the most. This whole basement was basically his torture chamber. And its not okay. Theres no way that she should get away with thinking that its okay and not to tell people what happened in this house. Torture chamber. Like in her basement. She saw pictures of women tied up to this pole. And the landlord of this house even offered for mcgraw to keep the dining room table something she later noticed in some of the crime scene photos. When mcgraw begged to get out of her lease, her landlord, who turned out to be the alleged killers mother, wouldnt budge. But thanks to the st. Louis housing authority, mcgough is moving out at the end of the month. Cnn affiliate kmob reports the man who lived in that home was charged with the crimes, but he killed himself in jail in 2002 before the case could actually go to trial. Is this not crazy, Darren Kavinoky . We were talking in our morning meeting and just when you think it was worse, it got worse. Do you think let me begin with, do you think she she is getting out of her lease. Do Real Estate Agent have to say, hey, your home was allegedly a place of multiple murders. Yeah, brooke, it may surprise you, but the answer is not necessarily. Theres no question that if youre selling a house or renting a house, youve got to disclose a material defect in the property. Stuff that could cause your tenant to hurt themselves. But when youre talking about something thats known in the law as a psychological defect, the law various from state to state. So the bottom line is, you better check the laws in your state before you sign on the dotted line. And there are some states, brooke, that have a threeyear window. So even if this occurred, say, more than three years ago, theres no duty to disclose at all, although if you are buying the property or renting the property, people do have an obligation to be truthful. So if you ask the person directly, was there any horrific crime that happened here . They do have an obligation to tell you whether or not thats the case. It doesnt mean they will be truthful, Darren Kavinoky. And, okay, so you say the law is the law. So, you know, takeaway for someone looking to represent rent or buy a home, you say check the law in your state. How exactly, do you go about doing that . Well, you can do that online, or this is yet another reason why working with a real estate professional, whether youre buying or youre leasing, is a really excellent idea. 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