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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin May 13, 2016

Miller and john baron speak on behalf of trump. In the exchange, we are about to play for you, john miller discusses his role within the Trump Organization and trumps relationship with then model carla bruni but his voice is mighty familiar. What is your position . Im handling it because he gets so much of it. Frankly where did you come from . Can tell you off the record and off the record i can tell you that he he didnt care if he bad pr until he got his divorce finished and bad financial stuff he liked it. You know . It was good. Because he can get a divorce then. Once its finished, notice since then hes doing well financially and well in every other way. The 50. And people saying how come all of a sudden hes doing so well and then newsday did a story on that. Ive sort of been put in here to handle because i have never seen somebody get so many calls from the press. He was with eric clapton and introduced her to mick jagger. She went with mick jagger and then dropped him for donald and thats where it is right now. And, you know, again, he is not making any either. Just so you understand. And on the today show trump said that was not his voice. Take a listen. Is it you . No. I dont think it i dont know anything about it. Youre telling me about it for the first time and doesnt sound like my voice at all. The post said you acknowledged that that was you and it was a joke. I dont think it was me. It doesnt sound like me. I dont know even what theyre talking about. All right. Lets talk about this. With cnn political director sai David Chalian. Whether it is him or not, whens the political implication here with Something Like this . Listen. I dont think this is in and of itself trouble for Donald Trumps campaign but highlights some of the concern that you see in his party about him as the nominee just because it goes to the sort of unpredictable, untraditional nature of the candidacy. It is widely reported before, pamela, as you know that he has tended to use these pseudonyms and portray pr representatives of him, an ability to hear what may be him doing it on the tape and he clearly denies that its his voice. I think this moment sort of brings to the forefront for voters just the clash that exists of sort of the 80s, 90s new York Real Estate billionaire donald trump with president ial nominee donald trump. And how they coincide. Right. And it makes you wonder how Something Like this could impact Party Leaders like those he met with on the hill yesterday because isnt some of their concern that, you know, theyre worried to continue to be blind sided by certain things coming out about trump or certain things he is going to say or, you know, actions, that kind of thing. Exactly. This is exactly what gives some Republican Leaders pause. As you know, he is starting to get some Republican Leaders warming to his candidacy and the establishment seems to be slowly getting on board with the nature, with the notion of him as the partys nominee and the need to unify. But you are right. It is the unpredictable nature of the trump candidacy that is the thing that gives these Republican Leaders pause and this gets at just what can so easily be a distraction from the message that republicans would like to drive every day against Hillary Clinton. And the interesting part, though, too, is on the flip side unpredictability is so appealing to so many of his followers. Precisely. Something else that remanes sort of hanging out there is this issue surrounding his tax returns. He basically says that hes not going to release those tax returns. How is the gop responding to this . Well, i think this one is less about how republicans are responding. I mean, we know some of the republican critics like mitt romney has sort of raised this issue as something he needs to deal with but i think its a broader issue for the general election and the fall and Hillary Clinton because i think this is something to continue to dog him if indeed hes not going to release the tax returns and cites because of the ongoing audits and something that the Clinton Campaign and republicans bring back about what hes hiding and ask that question an unbegun to do and thats the kind of question to dog him through november. Im not suggesting voters make up their minds because of it but this is a distraction. David chalian, thank you. We appreciate it. Sure, no problem. Lets dig deeper with dana bash, radio and Television Host gina loudon and jackie kucinich. Thank you, ladies, for come on on. A lot to discuss this friday. Gina, your genre action, what do you make of this recording . To me, personally, i have to be honest, it didnt sound him to me. Hear his voice every day all over media and didnt sound like him to me but whats significant talking about a quote unquote on fascinating case and defended a child rapist. This is in a conversation with a roy reed. Hearing her voice and sounds like her voice to me, i think you start to hold up tape recordings of things that donald and hillary has done and we have a lot to talk about. Well, it is interesting, though, that point is donald trump said today that, look, why are you digging something up from 20 years ago . Hows that relevant . You think its fair then to do that . Yeah. He wasnt in Public Policy at that point. He didnt have a career affecting the lives of other people but his own private business more or less. Talking about Hillary Clinton, had a public life most of her life. And so, i think that its perhaps an unfair advantage honestly that mr. Trump has over Hillary Clinton because she has had such a public life, she is more likely to be held accountable for it like a mitt romney or like a ted cruz when you have a public life but nonetheless it is one of the advantages of being an outsider for donald trump, at least in the minds of voters at this point. What is your view on this, dana . Is that he wants it both ways here or, look, he gets a pass as she said because he wasnt a public figure all this time . He goes after the clintons for their past. What is your thoughts . I dont think its necessarily comparable to the clintons. I think it is a reminder of something we really dont need to be reminded of that donald trump is a very unconventional nominee because back in the r09d he was kind of mr. Tabloid. Whether he liked it or not. Whether its true or not, whether he was impersonating a, you know, fakes spokesman or not, this was where donald trump came from in our National Media pop culture, frankly. I think the bigger issue today is the fact that he said this morning that it is none of our business. He specifically responding to a question, but by saying to the questioner, none of his business and none of our business his tax rate. Thats an i think more pertinent question visavis his not abilities to be president but questions about what hes worth and what has done in his businesses and so on and so forth so i think thats more recent and more relevant. Particularly for someone who has touted his business record, i think people would like to look at that. Before i get to you, jackie, i want gina to respond to that. Do you think he should release his tax returns . You know, i think that the voters, again, are so the people who are excited about a donald trump candidacy, they know hes rich. Had 500 andsome questions. The question in the minds of voters is going to weigh more perhaps might be what hes going to do about their own taxes. I think people want to know about his plan, are their taxes cut . Small businesses burdens going to be released on them so that people can flourish in business again . Those are the questions make or break for donald trump. Know hes rich. Is own taxes we i dont think its going to go beyond that in the minds of voters except for those that like to think about this in depth. All right. And speaking of plans, jackie, it seems as though trump might be shifting on the muslim ban hes proposed. Listen to the new line hes using. Im not the president right now. Anything i suggest is really a suggestion and if i were president id put in legislation and do what i have to do. Im not softening the stance but always flexible on issues. Okay. So, so flexible. Some others may say flip flopping which would be a deal breaker for many president ial candidates but not for donald trump it seems but in you view, jackie, is this another sign he wants to have some wriggle room with some of his more controversial proposals in the general where things the dynamic changes . It seems that way but, pam, i have honest with you and seems to be depending on the day we are talking about donald trump and where he stands on some of the issues. Needs wriggle room and not changing the stance. He says but he might change the stance and i think it goes to what some in the republican establishment are worried about and dont know where he is going to be daytoday. I have to respond coming to taxes. The reason one of the reasons why knowinging his tax rate is important coming a basic fairness. Is he paying a fair share . Coming to that, i think voters do care. That was one of the issues of mitt romney you will remember. He got a lot of criticism looking like he wasnt paying a fair share coming to how much he was making versus, you know, how much he was paying back to government. And, David Chalian made the case and the earlier segment that this is really going to give a material to Hillary Clinton, dana, but then again, you have this candidate who seems bulletproof. A teflon candidate. How does Hillary Clinton hit back against a candidate like that for tax returns and other issues . Shes already started trying on tax returns. Theres no question shes going continue to do so particularly because she has been in public life along with her husband for decades and they have released their tax return as has been their tradition and the norm. But, you know, he has been teflon up until now. That has been with the electorate that goes to the polls in the primary season. Hes definitely brought new voters in. It is not just tried and true republicans but its going to be it is still an open question. Going to be one of the most fascinating thing that is we are going to watch in this general election cycle is to see if hes going to be held to a more traditional standard for a president ial candidate, somebody who has a 5050 chance of being the president of the United States and whether the voters are going to care. I mean, we held him to a standard but the voters didnt care about a lot of things with trump they cared about with other candidates in recent history. Well see if that happens in the general election. We sure will see. Dana, gina, jackie, thank you ladies. Thank you. Monday night, dont miss exclusive with john kasich, the first interview since leaving the race for the white house. Will he endorse trump . Would he consider being his Vice President . Thats monday night at 8 00 eastern right here on cnn. A bombshell move that has critics accused president obama of blackmail. The white house now telling states to allow transgendered kids to use whatever bathroom they want. 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The departments of justice and education just came out with a new directive on transgendered kids and says Public Schools should let them use the bathroom of the sex they identifies and if districts dont they risk losing federal funding or lawsuits. A North Carolina law requires people use the bathroom of the gender they were born with. Opponents say its federal overreach. Texas Lieutenant Governor said some of the 10 billion federal his state gets pays for free student lunches. Hes taking money from the poorest of the poor, the president of the United States will be ending the free breakfast and lunch program. We will not be blackmailed by the president s 30 pieces of silver. And the people of texas and the legislature will find a way. Parents are going to look for private schools. Parents are not going to send their 14yearold daughters into the shower to the bathroom with 14yearold boys. Not going to happen. With me now to discuss laura coates, former federal prosecutor in the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and steve perry, principal and founder of capital preparatory magnet school. Welcome. Thank you both for coming on to talk about this very important topic. Thank you. Steve, i want to start with you to get your perspective just on the ground level. In your view, does this new guidance help or hurt a School District . It helps. We have to let the children live. They have enoug challenges as it is and we can only serve to complicate them when the adults get involved. This is not the children. The children have a keen understanding. We have had this happen in our school and we have had to find a solution to how you would engage a child who identifies as transgender and we did it without issue, without issue. Do you see the other side, though . Because the other side argues things are complicated bringing the government in to decide whats best for peoples children. Do you see their side . What we heard from the Lieutenant Governor. I do not. The president is saying follow the law and thats what the government does. Okay. We elect a government to create laws and they did that and so no. I dont see it as an overreach in the least. Lets talk about the law. Laura, you are the perfect person for this. The dwas and Justice Departments say title ix protects gender identity and doesnt include the term transgender so how does this play into this situation if a legal standpoint . Does it come down to whether gender is what you were born with, what you were identified as at birth or what you think you are . Great point, pam. What it comes down to is separation of powers and interpret a law when its silent on this issue. Title ix and title vii talk about protected sexes, sex or gender, does not say gender identity. Now, the federal government would like to believe that that interpretation of what gender is would also include gender identity, you do not believe that your external genital yeah matches who you identify with. Voters in North Carolina may saying thats the case but congress was silent because it did not contemplate an issue or because they intentionally left it out but either way the federal government is being accused right now and i think its a little bit of a fair criticikri criticism of them of usurping the role of congress to interpret an otherwise ambiguous or silent law the their view points and when the law is silent or doesnt contemplate the scenario, thats when the courts and congress are at their best in terms of fulfilling their roles. And we no surprise up to the chain to the supreme court. Steve, before i go on with a legal issues, just curious, you know, this is such a small fraction of the population, the transgendered students, have you personally dealt with this before, this type of situation . Looks like we lost steve. Laura, to you now. Do schools have bylaws about this, stools requiring students to use facilities that match their gender at birth . Some schools do because they contemplated the media and the press right now about this being a flagged issue. But in reality, the guide lines that were issued by the federal government are really voluntarily guidelines, not yet the federal law that the schools have to follow and so there is some room for these schools to be able to go around these guidelines. However, as the people are talking about, federal funding is, in fact, at stake here. Schools could really risk the use or access to funding from the federal government if they choose to violate civil rights laws but the Obama Administration ma

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