Without witnesses, without backup, or anything else. The election is being rigged by corrupt needmedia pushing false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect Hillary Clinton president. And while at first trump may be suggesting the media is rigging the election with its coverage, trump then doubled down, tweeting out a wild and unfounded claim let me read his tweet, quote of course theres large voter claims going on, why do Republican Leaders deny what is going on . So naive. Keep in mind, to keep a large voter fraud issue, which there isnt, and would have to happen in tossupstastates, florida, ne iowa, michigan, main, georgia, arizona, all republican voters, meaning trump says they would be complici compliceant in handing the election to Hillary Clinton. Just think on that. And while his surrogates are backing him up, many republicans are backing away including, on this precise point, his own running mate, governor mike pence. Lets begin with dana bash, cnn chief political correspondent. Lets talk about governor pence. What has his response been to trumps rigged claims . Well, he had been sort of the oneoutlier with regard to trump surrogates. Trump surrogates the few who are still out there on tv, rudy giuliani, Jeff Sessions newt gingrich. These are republican officials newt gingrich, have been backing donald trump pretty wholeheartedly, no, no, we are talking about cities run by democrats where they say i mean theyre going back to like jfk in 1960 talking about dead people voting in chicago, and alleging more recent issues with multiple people voting in places like philadelphia. Taking those allegations aside, theyre trying to back him up, mike pence has been, you know, sounding more like the paul ryan is and other republican secretaries of state that weve seen on our air and elsewhere saying were going to make sure that there is no fraud and that the Election Results will be respected and it really just goes to show, brook, that you know, the fact that you have paul ryan, who has been reluctant to keep this public war of words going on with donald trump, that started last week, which has been very detrimental to paul ryan, that he felt that he had to speak out through a spokesman over the weekend to say, no, no, no, the Election Results are going to be respected, kind of tells you everything you need to know about how uncomfortable many republicans are with this Closing Argument from donald trump. Yeah, but despite that, and despite the bus tape and the double digits now, the accusers against donald trump, youve seen the numbers. Let me just show everyone watching, who is following all of this closely with the rest of us, it is still a tight race in three battleground states. Nevada, north carolina, and ohio. It is so, so close. So my question is, if you have Hillary Clinton saying essentially, im the last thing standing between you and the o pock li apocalyp apocalypse, how do you look at the numbers . What do you make of this . Thats the strategy donald trump is trying to deploy here. Heres going back to the primary. Hes going back to the notion and the argument that worked so successfully back then, which is, its us, meaning trump and his supporters, against the establishment, against the media, against the rigged system, against, you know, everybody and everything that is considered for lack of a better way to say it, the man, and hes kind of the leader to buck the system. Thats where he is going because again it was successfully, obviously. Hes the nominee. Never mind that its a whole different ball game, because hes got the people they need to bring beyond the base and bring other people in, but hes clearly trying to make sure that Trump Supporters are highly, hoo highly energized and get out to vote and get their friends out to vote, and thats partly why hes doing this, in addition to, laying the groundwork, blaming somebody other than himself. Lots of possibilities, dana, thank you so much. On the notion hes saying this is rigged, wide scale vote are fraud, let me bring in a man who believes trumps claims without any everyday is quote irresponsib irresponsible, john huston, a republican who over sos the process of elections. Thank you so much, secretary, for coming on. Glad to be with you. Before we get to these quote unquote rigged elections, we know trump over the weekend cut ties with the head of the Republican Party in your state. A state that arguably, you know, is what one needs to win the white house. What do you make of that . Well, its been theres been a lot of controversy between the ohio Republican Party and donald trump. Donald trump is running his own campaign in our state largely and they just decided that they were going to break ties, that they wanted to sever it clean, and theres been a lot of disagreement, but i dont i dont think that in the end the average person ohio cares too much about that inside stuff. Okay. You say its inside stuff. How about the outside stuff . The stuff thats been made very public, how trump and he did this during the primaries he didnt when he was winning and now again hes repeating this claim that its rigged, the system is rigged, theres widespread voter fraud. Your response there in ohio . As a republican i want to reassure donald trump and all ohio voters and voters across the country that system is not rigged, that there are Elections Officials across this country that that is their job. We try to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat in ohio, and many of my colleagues who are secretaries of state around the country feel the same way. Our leaders need to build confidence in american demming oneracy democracy. Elections are more secure than theyve ever been and i would encourage donald trump to move on from this issue and focus on building peoples hopes for americas future, not undermining them. Let me followup and channel Trump Supporters, many ive spoken with, and their question to you, sir, would be, why should i believe . You. We have a bipartisan system. Its not run by secretaries of state. Its run by your neighbors who run the polls on election day, democrats and republicans at the local level. Frankly this is one of the only places republicans and democrats work well together that youll see when the go to the polls on election day you have democrats and republicans working there cooperatively, checking identification, making sure that people are properly registered and then when we go count the votes on Election Night, thats an open public meeting. The media is there, the public is invited. Its all very transparent. Okay. And i want to reassure folks this system works very well. Just so im clear, just because this man, mr. Trump, cut ties with the Republican Party in your state, says this is rigged, you are still voting for him, correct . Yeah, because i have i have really not very many good choices. I dont believe that what Hillary Clinton has done qualifies her to be president , im very disappointed in her, and im very disappointed in the way donald trump has run his campaign, but in the end i care about whos appointed to the Supreme Court, whos going to be the defense secretary, the secretary of the freshery, atrei believe donald trump will make better appointments than Hillary Clinton, but like most americans im not thrilled with my choices. Jon husted, you are not a loan, having spoken to many people across this country. Good luck election day. Thank you. Here to discuss, i have bill press, who supports bill clinton, and trump surrogate, max slap, who used to be political director for george bush. Gentlemen, nice to have you back. Matt, to this point why did i know this . You know im coming to you first. I also have to press you, because if you have trump saying and you just heard the secretary of ohio saying, its not rigged, its not rigged, but trump says it is, and that a smart argument to make three weeks out of election day . Yes, i like the idea hes running against the media, brook, no offense. I think thats actually a smart tactic. By and large, most people in the country believe the media its Mainstream Media tends to tilt a little bit left. Sometimes there are worse episodes than others and i think hes smart to take them on. Most republicans are scare audio. Take the media out of it. I wont take offense. Led me take the media out of it. Its not you. Trump is saying its the polling stations, its the offices of the secretary of state, thats whats rigged. Why do that . Its a tactic to try to get people to realize every vote matters and every person considering voting for donald trump. We know whats going on in the minds of a lot of voters, you just had the previous secretary of state of ohio. There are things about Donald Trumps message i love, there are things hes said i dont like, but im looking at Hillary Clinton, the most recent real vacations coming from wikileaks, shows someone i believe to be corrupt, so voters are having to make this choice and if every person realizes, north carolina, ohio, florida, would come down to be very, very tight in the end, every vote matters. Do i think the whole system is corrupt . I dont. Thank you. Because its not. And ive spent 36 days in the florida recount. I was in the dade county courthouse when they tried to take the counting behind closed doors. I think we have a very pretty transparent process and i think he said hes going to slaep the Election Results, mike pence has said the same and i will, as we well. Go ahead, bill. Hes indicated in the last couple days he would not let me just say something, if i were setting up if i knew that i was going to lose probably the Biggest Electoral College loss since barry goldwater, id be looking for somebody else to blame, matt. Stop. This is the latest in the donald trump conspiracy theories with zero evidence. Theres zero evidence Hillary Clinton took drugs before the last debate, zero evidence barack obama was born in kenya, and zero evidence those nine women were lying and zero evidence this election is corrupt, and beyond that, i think it is dangerous and unamerican for donald trump to suggest because it undermines everybodys confidence in the electoral process, whether republican or democrat. Hang on i want to press bill. Despite everything weve covered in the last however many weeks, and this may be going on many months. When you look at the screen, there are, you know, no huge changes, in some of her favor ability ratings. It is so, so close in nevada, ohio. Shes not on the trail. You still have this drip, drip, drip, which reinforces what americans are worried about her. How do you explain that, bill . Matt and i would explain from the beginning. This is going to be a close election. But why . Ill tell you why. Okay. Bernie sanders was right. Theres a lot of frustration with the establishment. The political establishment, the media and financial establishment, but donald trump is not the answer, and i just want to point out, nothing against cnn, but there are other measures out there lets look at the university of virginia, larry sabato, one of the best in the business. Today, his count as i checked it, on the way up, 347 electoral votes for Hillary Clinton, 191 for donald trump, and zero still up for zero still up for grabs. I think this is going to be an Electoral College landslide. So basically what we have going on here, is bill press was for Bernie Sanders because they believe that Hillary Clinton was a pawn of corporate interest, that she said one thing thats not true. Let me go. Let me try to do my dont speak for me. Ill speak for myself. Ill do my best imporsination of Bernie Sanders. When she appeared before corporate audiences she said we cant vet these refugees from syria, she said we cant have open borders. She said i have to have a p private and Public Policy position and shed collect or 225,000 check, or 250,000 check. Donald trump has the kitchen sink resting on his head, hes had the best dump in october weve ever seen. Hillary clinton is not liked. Shes a miserable candidate and shes not going to have a landslide victory. That is absurd. Youve got them confused. One of you says landslide, one of you says dump. He hasnt moved from the low 40s yet. He had the worst president ial mark net history. You just talk about someone who had a bad month. Your guy has been in the toilet in the last two months. Thats what hes saying. Bernie sanders and Elizabeth Warren were out yesterday in i think it was colorado, wherever, for Hillary Clinton. Bernie sanders is in arizona tomorrow for Hillary Clinton. Theres no doubt where Bernie Sanders is. Theres no doubt where Bernie Sanders supporters are. There with Hillary Clinton because donald trump is uniquely unqualified and unhinged. And on that, bill press, matt schlapp, thank you, guys. Bernie is right today. Matt and bill, thank you so much. Just ahead, a manhunt underway in the fire bombing of a Republican Office in a town in north carolina. Donald trump is blaming it on clintons quote unquote animals. Plus a major divide in the Clinton Campaign about whether to focus on swing states, or the red states. They would love to turn blue. Could taking a risk back fire . And breaking news today, it is the last isis strong hold in iraq, and right now, a battle underway to take it back. 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