President trump may have obstructed justice. Amid all of this, silence from the president except for these comments he made during a commencement speech at the coast guard just a short time ago. Never, ever, ever give up. Things will work out just fine. Look at the way ive been treated lately. Especially by the media. No politician in history and i say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. You cant let them get you down. You cant let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. All right. So lets begin with our White House Correspondent sara murray for us in washington. Lets talk more about these memos and even comeys testimony himself because the Ranking Member on the Senate Intel Committee would like both. Thats right. Not just the senate but the house and senate have both said that they want to see these memos. We know a portion of what is in them and some of the lines that are drawing concern but these committees want to see sort of what is in this memo. Im sure they want to see what is in some of the other memos that comey has written and the senate has also invited james comey to testify. Thats really sort of the next chapter in this saga whether comey accepts the invitation to testify or whether they get their hands on these memos in their complete form and what that tells us about the president s role and if he was, in fact, trying to meddle in this investigation into russia. From the great state of kentucky, a member of the House OversightCommittee Investigating the trump campaigns ties with russia, congressman, nice to see you, sir. Thank you for having me. We want to talk to you because its my understanding that you said you were skeptical about this memo about the conversation between the president and former fbi director. How so . Well, im curious why, when the deputy fbi secretary testified before congress, he failed to mention this action and im curious as to why, if it happened in february, that james comey didnt bring it to the attention of the department of justice. I think there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. I certainly support chairman chaffetz decision to request the memo so the House Oversight committee can look at it and proceed from there. I can respond to a piece from that. This is from james tapper on why he didnt go to anyone because it wasnt a successful effort and he would have been pushed back on it. So it was about having a good working relationship and things of that nature. I wanted to get that out there. If you were to think perhaps the president was joking, why, then, would he ask both the Vice President , who was initially in the room, and the attorney general who was in the room, to leave . I think thats a question that certainly the president needs to answer for himself. One of the things i said earlier today, do you think the way the president s personality is, he could have said that in a joking manner and i said he may have said that in a joking manner. A lot of times when you say a joke, people hear it and laugh but when you read it in print, its not very fun. Why ask those two to leave the room . Lets go with what youre saying. If it was a joke. Im not saying it was a joke. I was asked if it could have been a joke and i said it may have been a joke. I think well find out a lot when we get the memo and im certain that subpoenas and the president will have a chance to respond. Nobody is above the law. This is a very serious accusation. I think we dont need a rush to judgment and certainly need the facts to come before the various bodies of congress that are investigating us right now. Of course. We did hear from senator john mccain who was at a dinner last night honoring him. He said essentially that these trump scandals have, to quote him, reached watergate size and scale. Congressm congressman comer, do you think senators like mccain are overreacting . My father is al vietnam vet. I do think there are a few republicans in congress that are hitting the panic button right now. Certainly this is something too much so . Im sorry . Too much so . Are they hitting the panic button too soon and which one . I think Everyone Needs to step back and take a deep breath. Why wasnt this brought out by the deputy fbi director just last week when he came before congress . A lot of the same people i watch cnn all the time. A lot of people on cnn fussing about the president for firing james comey were calling for the president to fire james comey. This is a serious issue that every member of Congress Takes very seriously but there are a lot of facts still lingering out there. We cant jump to any conclusions. Its possible that perhaps mr. Mccabe has possible. Certainly the House OversightCommittee Chairman chaffetz, Ranking Member cummings that our committee will be able to answer for the entire press corps and the entire world. If a law has been broken, well go from there. Again, as i said earlier, no one is above the law. Some republicans are hitting the panic button a tad too early. We heard from House Speaker paul ryan today as he was heading out, do you still have confidence in the president , and his response, two words, i do. I do, too. You do . I just got back from a very successful town hall in kentucky and the majority of the people there support the president. He won my district by over 50 points. They are saying hes only been president a little over 100 days. Lets give him a chance to put his administration together. Hes made some mistakes and hes had a lot of unnecessary drama thats come out of the white house. But we have to remember, Donald Trumps not a politician. The American People didnt elect him because of his savvy political with all due respect, he is now the president of the United States. Hes in the hot seat. He is. Hes in the hot seat. I wish he would quit tweeting so much. I think the majority of people in congress say the same thing but thats who he is. Thats who the American People elected. A lot of calculated and older politicians, they speak with talking points and never get off message. The American People were sick of that type of political figure. They wanted someone to speak their minds outside the box. Donald trump is not very polished. Hes made a lot of mistakes early on. I hope that he can get things together because we have an agenda here to make America Great gbenga. We have to improve health care and make it more affordable and get americans working again. Congressman comer, thank you very much. Sho joining me is Shelby Holliday a and maeve reston. Talking about obstruction of justice and whatnot, its important to hear people who say slow your roll and dont hit the panic button. Absolutely. There is a lot to be said to that. There is no question about it, even if this doesnt turn into anything that is illegal or actually technically improper when we get all the facts. Right. It is not good for the president s agenda. What he went to the white house to do, at least what the voters said that they wanted him to do, from the issues to the demeanor and the notion of being a different kind of guy in draining the swamp. Thats not happening right now. But at the same time, you do have as you were doing the interview, you saw a note from Deirdre Walsh saying that the House Oversight committee has scheduled a meeting for wednesday. We dont know who the witnesses are and we dont know the details of it yet but that role is beginning to go. Slowly, but its happening. And you know what, it should go slowly. It should be done in a very deliberate and conscientious way because this is the presidency were talking about. This is i mean, this is corny, but it is true. This is sort of the cornerstone of democracy on all ends but, in particular, this i mean, theres so many crises that weve been talking about in the last 48 hours, but this whole notion of jim comey feeling like he was pressured to change an fbi investigation has changed the dynamic and the conversations that i and my colleagues are having with the president s fellow republicans like nothing has. What do you think of the congressman saying well why didnt the acting director say this in his testimony last week or why didnt comey go to the doj . Well, my question is, who is he supposed to go to to talk to about all of this . Jeff sessions . We live in a google culture. We want to know the answer right away. The dow and s p and nasdaq have fallen more than a percent today. So divorinvestors are worried a independents are not on trumps side right now. Those are the people who helped elect him. Its very hard to prove obstruction of justice and the i word. The toughest part is to prove intent. The fact that trumpb is joking could help donald trump. The very things that helped him be a businessman, his demeanor, jokingness, cut to the chase of speaking with people is hurting him here but if he was joking, its hard to prove intent. Maeve, what about for a president who likes to tweet or speak off the cuff. We havent heard from him on twitter in the last 22 hours other than the Commencement Ceremony for the u. S. Coast guard. What do you make of his silence . Well, at this point, he may need a lawyer. So he may be getting some legal advice about the tweets that hes put out in the past which getting to the point that yall were making, if we were looking at the president s intent here, he has a whole trail of tweets about comey and the russia investigation and then he went on to fire director comey. So theres a Bigger Picture here and trump may be at the point where hes realizing that its not in his best interest to be tweeting about something that is now a very serious legal matter. And, you know, looking ahead to next week, i mean, i think we all have to remember that while the i word is being tossed around, republicans did not have good answers last night about what their response was to this. You know, dana was making the point that this is a new level of seriousness. Last night it was like crickets. Called people and they dont want to talk right now. They dont know how to respond to this. So i think this is a different level of seriousness and well have to see how trump behaves Going Forward over the next week or so. So theres the president but theres also james comey, private citizen james comey. Im curious how many more memos get out. So am i. When he finally breaks his silence. What do you think . Well, look, we know that theres not one but two committees in the senate alone that are saying that they are asking for the memos. Not just this one that we know about, about this conversation that he supposedly had with the president where he asked him to lay off Michael Flynn but other conversations with the president , perhaps others in the administration that congress is looking. This is, again, the Republicanled Congress is looking for those. And there are negotiations going on to get james comey to capitol hill in a public setting. Lindsey graham, chairman of the subcommittee who oversees the fbi, hes trying. The full Judiciary Committee is likely to try. Well see what happens there. And on the intelligence committee, mark warner, the top democrat, he said he hopes james comey will come and speak publicly. So this is, again, things that weve been told about by sources to have james comey go and testify and speak publicly which will set this on a different trajectory. Maybe the joking would help the president but a he said he said unless there was some sort of hard evidence as far as what happened in that conversation. And as journalists, we write things down. Its a paper trail. To maeves point, his comments will matter because when you look at these things, he had a shifted story about why he fired james comey. He had different messaging coming out of the white house about why he fired james comey. Those things could matter when you look at intent. Can i touch on that, the whole thing about writing it down. I was hearing pushback from the white house when we first heard about this memo. If this was so alarming, why didnt he go to capitol hill and tell somebody about this . And that was criticism that we heard not just in the white house but elsewhere. I was talking to a couple of people who are trump allies, people who are very steeped in sort of how you prosecute obstruction of justice and all the things that go along with it who said james comey did exactly what he was supposed to do. He followed procedure to the letter of the procedure. He memorialized it, the conversation, as soon as he was done with it. And to do it contemporaneously is something that they are apparently taught, maybe not just in law school but in Law Enforcement in general because it could be and is generally admissible if it gets to that point. Yeah, it is. It is. Go ahead. Jump in. And to danas point, it carrys great weight. I think that there are a lot of legal issues that are really unclear. But in the end, the house would be deciding, you know, whether the president s conduct rises to the level of impeachment and thats a different standard than the Legal Standard for obstruction of justice. Well be having a lot of conversations about that over the coming weeks as we see, you know, additional evidence and whether this rises to that level. But there is a lot of explaining that the president needs to do at this point. And to your earlier interview, brooke, i think the most curious thing, if the president was joking, is why he would have asked the Vice President to leave the room. Thats why i asked the question twice. It doesnt make sense. So hell have to explain that. Right. Unbelievable conversation. Well have it in four minutes. Ladies, thank you very much. Lets get into the weeds on this, this motion of did the president obstruct justice, how could that even be proven . Well have two legal experts on, one from the nixon administration, to discuss. 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