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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin January 12, 2018

Quote, shithole countries according to a source. That kind of vulgarly condemnation from every part of the globe including the president s hometown paper. Asking why do we need more haitians. He was told they were under protected stats us. At first the white house made no denials. But today President Trump did deny it saying he used his words, tough language and he said nothing derogue tory against haitians. However, at least seven other people were in the room, including illinois democrat dick durbin, whose account, if true says the president s denials are a flat out lie. As senator gram made his presentation, the president interrupted him several times with questions. And in the course of his comments said things which were hate filled, vial, and racist. I use those words advise he hadly. I understand how pourl thpowerf they are. But i cant believe any president has spoken the words that i personally heard our president speak yesterday. Youve seen the comments in the press. Ive not read one of them thats inaccurate. To no surprise, the president started tweeting this morning, denying that he used those words. It is not true. He said these hate filled things. And he said them repeatedly. The most disheartening thing to me is my belief that that was the first time words that hateful had been spoken in the oval office of the white house. I think back of president s throughout history, and i cannot imagine a moment where a president sunk to that depth. Thats what breaks my heart. First time words that hateful spoken in the oval office. Here she s april rhine, cnn political analyst for american urban networks. April, we played the clip. We didnt see you. We heard your voice. One of a couple of reporters shouting out the question to the president of the United States. Yes. Are you racist . Yes. This is where we are in 2018. Yes. Brooke, it was hard to really ask that question, particularly as this president was trying to celebrate, if you will, dr. Martin luther king, the dreamer, the man of quality and peace for all people in this nation and globally. You know, listening to the president talk about dr. King and then ben carson and the nephew of dr. King, i felt bad that i had to ask this, but the day before was really big. I mean, this president is accused of saying this repeatedly. So i had to ask the question hs th s that i did today. In a moment like this, you have a great moment, then you have to go to the reality of the time. Allegedly the president is saying africans, el salvador and haitians come from s hole places. I had to ask the questions. You know, we are hearing, gloria borger, has a source that says the president , as hes been obviously keeping track of all this coverage of this controversy of the words hes apparently chosen to use, and that the source is saying the president loves it. Loves it. He loves this . Okay. What are you hearing . Well, what im hearing, well, as you say the president loves, there is collateral damage. Ive had more people calming me yesterday, hbc president s, president s of historically black colleges and universities very upsetment they are now saying they have to go to their students and reassure them that they are okay, that they are safe, that we want you here. Many of these historically black colleges and universities have International Students. For instance, Tennessee State university, i talked to the president there, dr. Glenda glover who says she has so of her student body coming from the africa or caribbean and she says they do very well, engineering, get degrees and come back for more degrees. And many of these schools depend upon students to help them to continue to go. And International Student population is huge. And for this president to say this, they are now having to go back, and they are very concerned, and trying to galvanize and talk about this. There is dl there is collateral damage. I asked sheldon what is the definition of racist . And he said when there is racial prejudice and when there is power that comes together. And that begged the question today, there is power in this place, highest office in the land. And then the question of racial prejudice. So when those two come together, thats one of the reasons why i asked the question today. I guess i was the only one that asked that question repeatedly today. Its a sad day that the question has to be asked, period. April ryan, thank you so much there from the white house. Thank you. From what we know, senator durbin was the only democrat in the room when the president called these african nations shithole countries. The question we are asking what are the republicans saying . Two quotes, two senators i should shay cotton and purdue, they are saying we dont recall. So thats what we are getting from them. As far as the leaders, as far as the leaders of their party, its taken more than half a day for House Speaker paul ryan to respond. But here he was this morning. I read those comments later last night. So first thing that came to my mind was very unfortunate, unhelpful. With me now, republican david jolly former congressman from florida, and cnn analyst professor at temple university. Gentlema gentleman, jolly, first to you, unhelpful. You saw senators purdue and cotton with we dont recall. We dont recall. What is that . Look, brooke, lets be honest, this is an embarrassing day to be a republican. And for rational republicans you should be angry today. I believe the president s comments, if they were made, were racist. But even if you do not, if you are a defender of donald trump, heres the important thing. We know our president through word and deed over the past two years has certainly expressed an ideology based upon a certain social hierarchy, a construct, where white people of european decent, particularly those of wealth, have a different place in society than poor people of color. We know that. We have seen that through word and deed. And why it is important, forget about what he said in the oval office, its important because this is someone directing the policy of the United States. And he is crafting legislation with the hill that will effect millions of lives, particularly poor people of color. As a republican party, we went from a leader in bush 43 who challenged, challenged the soft bigotry of low expectations, to a president in donald trump who pedals the hard bigotry of people of color. Let me read one more. This is senator Diane Feinstein of california part of it reads, if the president cant control himself and lead this country with authority, then he shouldnt be the president. There is no room for racism in the oval office. That was one quote. There was another quote up on the screen, which im happy to read if you want to throw it back up. You can see more of what senator feinstein has said. Mark, the thing is, he, as i mentioned with april, hes saying that hes loving this controversy. Hes loving all of this swirling around him. And its astonishing to me we are at a point the president doesnt realize the hurt in his words. Yeah. Or he doesnt care. I mean, we also have to allow for the pocket that hes fully aware of the hurt that hes causing and simply in different to the suffering pf othof other people. There is long history in President Trump life and year, much lessen tire year where consistently show indifference and actual angst and anger and hatred toward people of color around the world. So this is no surprise to anyone. I agree with senator feinstein if he cant be a leader he shouldnt be there. And he clearly demonstrated that he doesnt have the capacity to lead with dignity and humanity and any sense of fairness. This is stunning. Its not stunning. Let me shay that this sen tirely consistent with Everything Else hes done. Im not surprised but only thing im surprised with is say it to all the people in the room. I thought he would be more discreet. We are almost stuck in groundhog day where the president says something insane, and we are all looking for Republican Leadership to respond. Sometimes they do. Sometimes its just so loud in their silence, and then it goes away. And then he says something else. And its like this, david jolly, its this cycle. Sure. Its the denials. He says its lying. I should Start Recording my conversations. Sure. The last 24 hours is very similar to when he stood in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson with native american code talkers and used the word po po pocahontas. They are lesser people than we are. Brooke, that is a donald trump rally. That is Donald Trumps gop. This is the hijacking he has done to the republican party. I want to challenge you on that. Sure, please do. Hes saying that, you know, yes, rallying the base, but at the same time, you know, some of the trump defenders are saying, well, the president is saying what all of us are saying out loud in bars and restaurants across the country. Right. But is that really fair . No, its not. Is that fair to trump voters . Well, yeah, i actually think its fair to a large contingent. What donald trump is doing is using the office of the presidency to get permission for americans to listen to the lesser angels among us. No president has done that before. Go ahead mark. The truth is if you voted for donald trump you either voted for him because you agreed with the racist statements that he made consistently throughout the campaign, or you were indifferent to it, sit back and allow a racist to work. So either way you are complicit. And as far as donald trump and his base goes, yes he is speaking to his base and they do sit in bars and make racist jokes at home. Yes they do call africa that. But its enough of them to matter. And the key of this point though, i think, is he may have jumped the shark. There are moments say okay hes going to put a band on islam and some people sit by and allow that. But when he says something so racist, there should be people saying i cant stay on this ride, i can finally leave. Not all of them but make it difficult for donald trump to govern. You have republicans who would lie with do donald trump and said i dont recall. You would remember Something Like that in a meeting. So the fact they are punting off saying they are falling off the bandwagon. I know them saying i dont know. And unhelpful like its a rain cloud. This is a pretty big deal. This isnt something unfortunate and unhelpful. Thanks very much. Reading all of this and listening to too many different opinions, you know what made me think of, poignant speech given at the u. S. Air force academy prep story school last year. Remember this the Lieutenant General jay, he gathered all the air force cadets and didnt mince words. And that turned out to be a hoax. But his words have never rung truer than today. So just in case you are unclear on where i stand on this topic, im going to leave you with my most important thought today. If you cant treat someone with dignity and respect, then you need to get out. If you cant teach someone from another gender whether thats a man or woman with dignity and respect, then you need to get out. If you demean someone in any way, then you need to get out. And if you cant treat someone from another race or different color skin with dignity and respect, then you need to get out. Mr. President , the world is watching you. The choice is yours. Next here on cnn the Global Reaction to the president s words. Multiple countries, including close allies to the u. S. , are expressing outrage. Well discuss the longterm impacts of these key relationships. Also ahead the state department is giving guidance how to handle this firestorm. This as one u. S. Ambassador is saying hes resigning sighting difference ws the trump administration. And trip canceled unusual reason President Trump is calling off his planned visit to london next month. The mayor there saying he knows the real reason why. You are watching cnn. Well be right back. Ything happ. Neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works in just one week. With the fastest retinol formula to visibly reduce wrinkles. Neutrogena®. 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President trumps vile comments have triggered outrage. And then the ambassador has said hes stepping down. But to be clear this Resignation Letter came last month. The news with under secretary of state said this. And quote everybody has a line. And calling it shameful and racist. Governments around the world getting their responses. Boss wan yeah asking the u. S. If it is one of those shithole countries. And commemorating 8 years haiti, top diplomate there to discuss the remarks. Haiti former Prime Minister tweeting shame on trump in big capital letters and new low in u. S. History. Sitting government calling it abhor bant. Now a staggering move by the u. S. State department, for more of that soirl global affairs, joining me, so is cats in haiti and author of the big truck that went by. And i know, jonathan you spent years and years in haiti. But elise, first to you, just on commercial break, we have noticed that Hillary Clinton has now tweeted. Let me just read it then we can respond. She tweets, the anniversary of the devastating hurricane eight years ago was a day to remember. The tragedy, honor the resilient people of haiti and a firm u. S. Commitment to helping neighbor. Instead we are were subjected to trumps ignorant racist views of anyone who doesnt look like him. Elise . Look, was the competitor in the election. But before that u. S. Secretary of state and credited with improving the image of the u. S. Around the world and restoring ties with u. S. Allies after many thought was really damaged during the bush years. So, i mean, in addition to the clintons history are haiti, president bill clinton envoy to help the reconstruction there, Hillary Clinton chooses when to speak about comments regarding President Trump. Today i feel like she thought she couldnt stay silent. Yes. And jonathan, to you, weve been seeing backlash from haitians online, tweeting photos showing the haiti that they know and love. And i know during the quake eight years you were bureau chief for ap, you lived there, you speak creole, here on the anniversary deadliest event to rock the nation, what do trumps comments mean to you and the people of haiti . The timing is devastating. This is a really charged moment. January 1st is the anniversary of independence day, and 8 years since that horrible day in 2010. I think emotions would have been high anyway. And to have a comment like this, to have him reportedly have said something that ugly, and on the heels also of his previous comments about haitian people, saying that they all have aides and other slanders like that is correct its hard to imagine how much that hurts the people who heard that. Tell me about the haiti that you love. It is a complicated piece. It is a beautiful country and full of all the people that you would have in any country. So there is beautiful and strong and amazing people. And there is other people too. Its a complicated place. And i really love haiti. I lived there for three and a half years. Including during the earthquake. And i had all kinds of really important life experiences. There but what i remember most is that experience immediately after the quake. The way that people came together and were working with one another and helping each other and digging each other out of the rubble with their bare hands. And people who had very, very little, giving what little they had to their neighbors, sometimes people they didnt even really know, so that everybody could get through it together and stay alive. And its a place that has a very special place in my heart, and i think it has a very special place in the hearts of a lot of people in the world. Sure. So much of this is about haiti, but obviously elise, this has global implications. We mentioned a second ago about the circumstances u. S. Ambassador to panama, whats the story there . Well, i mean, as you said, this came in december. And the u. S. Ambassador freely said in alert to the white house in december that essentially he could not serve this administration, could not serve this president , when he joined the Foreign Service years ago, as a junior officer, his mentors told him, you know, you are bound to serve any president regardless of party. And if you cant do that, then the time is for you to resign. And he writes in his resignationlResignation Letter that that time is now. It says hes leaving the embassy in good hands. Panama relationship is strong but felt he couldnt serve this president. And the state department is ocean halee saying we respect you have lines. We appreciate you have a moral compass and had to do what you think is right. This is part of the problem with the Foreign Services ambassadors doing cleanup around the world and giving them instructions to go into the host government and we affirm the u. S. Commitment to your country, to africa. So many officials state Department Officials have tried to keep it out. But having a hard time, brooke. Yeah. Elise, thank you. Jonathan cats, thank you. Nice to have you on here as well. Moving the conversation, lets talk about london. President trump calming off his planned visit there next month blaming the Obama Administration over a bad

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