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The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. Russia investigation because we now know special counsel Robert Muellers team has just interviewed a woman who once ran a high prized new york call girl ring, a woman who went to jail as part of this whole scandal surrounding former new York Democratic governor elliott spitzer, a woman othersquies known as the Manhattan Madam. Investigators appear to be interested in Kristin Davis ties to long time trump adviser roger stone who she knew for years and years. So to sara murray we go, our cnn Political Correspondent on this Breaking News. So, sara, we know that she voluntarily sat down with muellers team. What was the focus of the interview . Well, brook, we are not sure exactly what muellers interest is in Kristin Davis. As you pointed out shes had a checkered past when it comes to Law Enforcement, this is someone who ran a highend prostitution ring, but its also someone who has been close to roger stone both personally as well as professionally over the course of the last decade. He helped her out in 2010 as a used each other to party and when my codirector of the Get Me Roger Stone film saw her with her baby, without asking the first words out of her mouth were, its not rogers. Its not rogers, that was her belief based upon what you guys saw. As this Personal Assistant, last question, as a Personal Assistant a lot of information comes and goes. So it would be possible, no one knows well, muellers team may know what she knew and how, you know, pertinent it is to this whole Russia Investigation. Not only is it possible. Roger in the past has used his subordinates to filter money or to launder money depending on how you describe it so various candidates and various other people. Im not saying he did that here with Kristin Davis but he did that in the past. One of his assistants came up with 100,000 for a campaign Out Of Nowhere and he said he was just a trust fund baby when we knew he was not a trust fund baby. Good to see you. For more on this i have bob bauer with me, a former white House Counsel to president obama. Bob bauer, thank you for coming back as well. Just staying on this Manhattan Madam story. So we know that muellers team met with her this week. What does your gut tell you as a lawyer is going on . We know from other News Accounts that theyve been talking to a whole host of associates, people close to roger stone, so in light of that longtime association, in particular her service to him as a clerical assistant in the 2016 period, its not at all surprising that the prosecutors would interview had err. The fact that she sat for this interview voluntarily, she wasnt forced to do this, how do you interpret that . Thats always hard to judge. I dont know what advice of counsel she had or whether she took it. I dont know what exposure a lawyer might have told her she did or didnt have. So its always very difficult to judge with what wisdom or lack of wisdom a client engages with prosecutors voluntarily. It may have been the best choice for her in the circumstances. Thats very hard to tell. Prosecutors also, bob, appear to be delving into roger stones personal life. We were just discussing this about how at least two witnesses were asked whether stone was the father of davis son. We know that stone is this childs godfather. Why would they even be asking those kinds of questions . This is the first ive heard of it and i honestly have no idea. I really do not know. Okay. So you have Kristin Davis, this Manhattan Madam and you also have this close aide of his, andrew miller, who has now been ordered to testify in front of this mueller grand jury, been fighting it. So if you are roger stone right now, what are you thinking and especially if you are his legal team . I would start by saying i dont know why his legal team would think it was a good idea, and i doubt they do, that hes putting out Press Releases commenting on developments in the case, but when you compare this behavior to the president s incessant behavior its not unusual in that corner. However, it seems for some period of time he has been central to what image ins is the Collusion Aspect of the Mueller Investigation and i think that we probably will see Significant Developments in this case in the not too distant future. It appears to be building to that point. I dont know what the outcome is going to be, but i think that he represents a very significant connection here between the Trump Campaign and what the russians were up to through wikileaks, through guccifer in 2016 and interfering in the election. I think he is a central figure in that inquiry as far as anybody can tell from the best reporting that we have. So he would probably be hearing some loud footsteps. Bob bauer, while i have you i wanted to did about just as a former white House Counsel the border separations. So weve been covering this story for weeks and weeks. We now know that the Trump Administration is arguing that the aclu, not the government, the aclu needs to find the hundreds of separated parents who have been deported. And its crazy because, you know, these are the people who separated the families, lost track of who belongs to whom and wants someone else to fix this. What do you make of this move . The governments performance on this has been appalling from day one, simply unforgivable. So at every turn we see both bad policy, bad faith and utter lack of compassion. So theres really nothing to be said other than that. I think it stands out as a really dismal aspect of an administration that certainly offers up any number of things to disapprove of, but this really ranks at the top. Bob bauer, good to see you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Just ahead here, President Trump contradicting his intelligences yet again calling it a hoax just hours after the white house put up a united front to address election interference. Also ahead the hunt to find a man accused of killing a houston doctor comes to a close as the suspect has now taken his own life. What police are revealing about what they found at his home. And a chilling scene at a washington, d. C. Airport. This 12yearold girl, she was part of this tour group from china, she was seen leaving the airport with an unknown woman and police now are desperate to find her. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Es a new ple for senior care. A place with flexible meal plans. And 24hour room service. 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Since 1985, selectquote has saved over a million families millions of dollars on Life Insurance. Call the number on your screen. Or go to selectquote. Com. Discover what over a million families know. We shop. You save. Were back. Youre watching cnn. As the nations Top National Security officials issue a dire warning about russias interference in u. S. Elections, President Trump is down playing the role of the kremlin, dismissing this threat. From his own intel chiefs once again, calling the Russia Investigation a hoax. In helsinki i had a great meeting with putin. We discussed everything. I had a great meeting. I had a great meeting. We got along really well. By the way, thats a good thing, not a bad thing. Thats a really good thing. Now, were being hindered by the russian hoax. Its a hoax, okay . Those comments coming mere hours after the heads of the fbi, homeland security, National Intelligence all stood there in that White House Briefing room and warned the russia threat is real. All of them saying the interference is still happening. The Intelligence Community continues to be concerned about the threats of upcoming u. S. Elections, both the midterms and the president ial elections of 2020. Our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. Make no mistake, the scope of this foreign influence threat is both broad and deep. And while we know the president ordered his intelligence chiefs to present that show of force, they used one word that may have defied the president on russia. Cnn politics reporter and editor at large chris saliza is with me. Does that word begin with an a . It does, but it might not be the one you think it is. I want to play two bits of sound back to back, the first donald trump talking to Tucker Carlson on fox news the day after his summit in helsinki with vladimir putin. Lets play that. Okay. I dont want to evan auto use the word adversary. We can all work together, we can do great, everybody can do well and we can live in peace. There is that word adversary. Okay. Pay attention here, brooke, for that word. This is on thursday, as you mentioned, the sort of top intelligence officials of theTrump Administration doing a show of force. Here is how they talked about russia. We do not wish to make the efforts of our adversaries any easier. Free and Fair Elections are the cornerstone of our democracy and it has become clear that they are the target of our adversaries and new insights into potential adversaries and campaigns our adversaries influence operations have encompassed a wide range of activities. Foreign adversaries who are attempting to sew discord and division. U. S. Cyber command and the National Security agency are tracking a wide range of foreign cyber adversaries. Thats because i was counting, six mentions of adversary just in that little clip that we played, brooke. Look, words matter. Donald trump has repeatedly said wouldnt be a good thing if we were friends with russia rather than enemies or adversaries because he simply does not see it in that light. I would say another break from his intelligence and National Security community who quite clearly based on that clip see russia as an adversary. Back to you, brooke. Dan coats stood there yesterday, russia is indedeed a threat, he was incredibly tough. Watching trump last night you have to wonder is that getting through to the president . So i will add to it, getting through and is dan coats even in the loop. Let me play you just one more little bit of sound here from dan coats on thursday. Im not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. Im not in a position to either understand or really talk about what happened in helsinki. That is the top intelligence official in the Trump Administration. That speaks, i think, to the disconnect here. Remember, donald trump wanted a oneonone meeting just translators and the two Heads Of State between he and vladimir putin. He got that, brooke, but unfortunately we dont really know what happened in that meeting and apparently we have that in common with the director of National Intelligence, dan coats. Back to you. Chris, thank you so much. Thank you. Coming up next, Osama Bin Ladens mother speaking out for the First Time Since the 9 11 attacks orchestrated by her son. She is remembering what she refers to him as a good child. Peter bergen, the journalist who actually interviewed bin laden himself back in 1997 joins me next on what he thinks of this mothers words. And day four turns to the possible paper trail as Paul Manaforts accountant and tax preparer take the stand. What theyre revealing today in court next. Bin ladens mother has just broken her silence, saying her son who was responsible for the 9 11 attack was a, quote, good child until he was brainwashed while attending college. This mother who is now in her mid 70s sat down with the Guardian Newspaper and claimed her son wasnt to blame for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people. Quote, everyone who met him in the early days respected him. He was a very good child until he met some people who pretty much brainwashed him in his early 20s. You can call it a cult. They got money for their cause. Peter bergen, cnn National Security analyst, you produced the first televised interview with Osama Bin Laden back in 1997. It has been nearly 17 years since the Terror Attacks in september of 2001. Why is this mother speaking out now . I have to imagine you think this is quite unusual. Its super unusual because shes never spoken publicly before about anything, even before 9 11. Ive written a number of books about bin laden, talking to the immediate Family Members is very hard. They live in saudi arabia, the government kind of controls their ability to talk to the press so this is, you know, unprecedented interview. The reason she is talking right now, brooke, i think is the saudi government knows they face a lawsuit in american courts by some of the families of the victims of 9 11. This lawsuit has been grinding through the courts for the past 17 years. Remains unresolved, but the suit claims that elements of the saudi government were somehow responsible for 9 11. Bin ladens mother is saying, no, no, in fact, my son was influenced by people who are not saudis, they were palestinians and others who kind of made him more essentially jihadi minded, more terrorist minded. I think thats why the saudi government has allowed this interview to happen. She herself i think is quite credible and what she says in this interview is largely credible. Can we pick that apart. Let me ask you what part is largely credible. Obviously its a punch in the gut to any american to hear this mother say her murderous son was this good child, but you push past that and when she talks about outsiders like, you know, Brain Washing her son, right . Converting him to violent jihadism in his 20s. How much truth is there to that . You know, bin laden was an adult so, you know, i dont really buy that. Certainly he kind of fell in with a group of pretty radical people in afghanistan, but he became more radical than some of the radical people he fell in with. A lot of the people who were fighting the soviets in afghanistan, you know, were doing it because they believed in the cause. They didnt necessarily, you know, set up a Terrorist Group to attack the United States at all. I think at a certain point bin laden when he founded al qaeda he was already 31, he wasnt a kid. So, you know, i dont really buy the idea that somehow he was brainwashed. So what was the most credible thing that this mother even said . Well, the credible stuff is really the account of bin laden as a kid. You know, unsurprisingly she says he was a loving son. He really was a loving son. He remained so. She paints a picture of him being a studious kid, somebody who was so, you know, when he was a teenager bin laden was very serious child, very religious and so the stuff that she knows about really when she was a mother to this kid, what mother doesnt love their child . So, you know, plenty of mass murderers who have mothers who say that their son was fabulous and shes not an exception. Sure. You started off by talking about whats happening with regard to saudi and this case. I mean, we know that his mother is in regular touch with apparently his various wives who survived that you know, that raid in pakistan in 2011. You note they are all living in saudi arabia. But they cant leave. Remind us why. Well, you know, there is a whole i think the key thing is the saudi government doesnt want them going out there and talking about bin laden. They themselves, you know, probably dont have much of an inclination to do that. The saudi government its an authoritarian state and they can control who leaves, who you know, the new crown prince of saudi arabia, you know, he is running a semitotalitarian regime. Whatever he wants he really gets. One thing he doesnt want is a lot of bin ladens wives, i think, getting on tv or talking about Osama Bin Laden, reminding people about bin laden. And also, by the way, brooke, bin ladens three wives are true believers. They were with him throughout his sort of Robert Muellers<\/a> team has just interviewed a woman who once ran a high prized new york call girl ring, a woman who went to jail as part of this whole scandal surrounding former new York Democratic<\/a> governor elliott spitzer, a woman othersquies known as the Manhattan Madam<\/a>. Investigators appear to be interested in Kristin Davis<\/a> ties to long time trump adviser roger stone who she knew for years and years. So to sara murray we go, our cnn Political Correspondent<\/a> on this Breaking News<\/a>. So, sara, we know that she voluntarily sat down with muellers team. What was the focus of the interview . Well, brook, we are not sure exactly what muellers interest is in Kristin Davis<\/a>. As you pointed out shes had a checkered past when it comes to Law Enforcement<\/a>, this is someone who ran a highend prostitution ring, but its also someone who has been close to roger stone both personally as well as professionally over the course of the last decade. He helped her out in 2010 as a\rused each other to party and when my codirector of the Get Me Roger Stone<\/a> film saw her with her baby, without asking the first words out of her mouth were, its not rogers. Its not rogers, that was her belief based upon what you guys saw. As this Personal Assistant<\/a>, last question, as a Personal Assistant<\/a> a lot of information comes and goes. So it would be possible, no one knows well, muellers team may know what she knew and how, you know, pertinent it is to this whole Russia Investigation<\/a>. Not only is it possible. Roger in the past has used his subordinates to filter money or to launder money depending on how you describe it so various candidates and various other people. Im not saying he did that here with Kristin Davis<\/a> but he did that in the past. One of his assistants came up with 100,000 for a campaign Out Of Nowhere<\/a> and he said he was just a trust fund baby when we knew he was not a trust fund baby. Good to see you. For more on this i have bob bauer with me, a former white House Counsel<\/a> to president obama. Bob bauer, thank you for coming back as well. Just staying on this Manhattan Madam<\/a> story. So we know that muellers team met with her this week. What does your gut tell you as a lawyer is going on . We know from other News Accounts<\/a> that theyve been talking to a whole host of associates, people close to roger stone, so in light of that longtime association, in particular her service to him as a clerical assistant in the 2016 period, its not at all surprising that the prosecutors would interview had err. The fact that she sat for this interview voluntarily, she wasnt forced to do this, how do you interpret that . Thats always hard to judge. I dont know what advice of counsel she had or whether she took it. I dont know what exposure a lawyer might have told her she did or didnt have. So its always very difficult to judge with what wisdom or lack of wisdom a client engages with prosecutors voluntarily. It may have been the best choice for her in the circumstances. Thats very hard to tell. Prosecutors also, bob, appear\rto be delving into roger stones personal life. We were just discussing this about how at least two witnesses were asked whether stone was the father of davis son. We know that stone is this childs godfather. Why would they even be asking those kinds of questions . This is the first ive heard of it and i honestly have no idea. I really do not know. Okay. So you have Kristin Davis<\/a>, this Manhattan Madam<\/a> and you also have this close aide of his, andrew miller, who has now been ordered to testify in front of this mueller grand jury, been fighting it. So if you are roger stone right now, what are you thinking and especially if you are his legal team . I would start by saying i dont know why his legal team would think it was a good idea, and i doubt they do, that hes putting out Press Releases<\/a> commenting on developments in the case, but when you compare this behavior to the president s\rincessant behavior its not unusual in that corner. However, it seems for some period of time he has been central to what image ins is the Collusion Aspect<\/a> of the Mueller Investigation<\/a> and i think that we probably will see Significant Developments<\/a> in this case in the not too distant future. It appears to be building to that point. I dont know what the outcome is going to be, but i think that he represents a very significant connection here between the Trump Campaign<\/a> and what the russians were up to through wikileaks, through guccifer in 2016 and interfering in the election. I think he is a central figure in that inquiry as far as anybody can tell from the best reporting that we have. So he would probably be hearing some loud footsteps. Bob bauer, while i have you i wanted to did about just as a former white House Counsel<\/a> the border separations. So weve been covering this story for weeks and weeks. We now know that the Trump Administration<\/a> is arguing that the aclu, not the government, the aclu needs to find the\rhundreds of separated parents who have been deported. And its crazy because, you know, these are the people who separated the families, lost track of who belongs to whom and wants someone else to fix this. What do you make of this move . The governments performance on this has been appalling from day one, simply unforgivable. So at every turn we see both bad policy, bad faith and utter lack of compassion. So theres really nothing to be said other than that. I think it stands out as a really dismal aspect of an administration that certainly offers up any number of things to disapprove of, but this really ranks at the top. Bob bauer, good to see you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Just ahead here, President Trump<\/a> contradicting his intelligences yet again calling it a hoax just hours after the white house put up a united front to address election interference. Also ahead the hunt to find a man accused of killing a houston doctor comes to a close as the suspect has now taken his own life. What police are revealing about what they found at his home. And a chilling scene at a washington, d. C. Airport. This 12yearold girl, she was part of this tour group from china, she was seen leaving the airport with an unknown woman and police now are desperate to find her. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Es a new ple for senior care. A place with flexible meal plans. And 24hour room service. A place where seniors get the care they need in the comfort of home. Home instead senior care. I love you, basement guest bathroom. Your privacy makes you my number 1 place to go number 2. I love you, but sometimes you stink. Febreze air effects doesnt just mask, it cleans away odors. Because the things you love the most can stink. And try Febreze Small Spaces<\/a> to clean away odors for up to 30 days. Breathe happy with febreze. Our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest. buzzer sound holiday inn express. Be the readiest. But if something happened to you. You need Life Insurance<\/a> and chances are selectquote can get it for you for under a dollar a day selectquote found michael, 38, a 500,000 policy for under 23 a month. Selectquote found anna, 37, a 750,000 policy for under 22 a month. Selectquotes secret . They comparison shop select group of Great Companies<\/a> like these for your best rate. Give your family the security they need. At a price you can afford. Since 1985, selectquote has saved over a million families millions of dollars on Life Insurance<\/a>. Call the number on your screen. Or go to selectquote. Com. Discover what over a million families know. We shop. You save. Were back. Youre watching cnn. As the nations Top National Security<\/a> officials issue a dire warning about russias interference in u. S. Elections, President Trump<\/a> is down playing the role of the kremlin, dismissing this threat. From his own intel chiefs once\ragain, calling the Russia Investigation<\/a> a hoax. In helsinki i had a great meeting with putin. We discussed everything. I had a great meeting. I had a great meeting. We got along really well. By the way, thats a good thing, not a bad thing. Thats a really good thing. Now, were being hindered by the russian hoax. Its a hoax, okay . Those comments coming mere hours after the heads of the fbi, homeland security, National Intelligence<\/a> all stood there in that White House Briefing<\/a> room and warned the russia threat is real. All of them saying the interference is still happening. The Intelligence Community<\/a> continues to be concerned about the threats of upcoming u. S. Elections, both the midterms and the president ial elections of 2020. Our democracy itself is in\rthe crosshairs. Make no mistake, the scope of this foreign influence threat is both broad and deep. And while we know the president ordered his intelligence chiefs to present that show of force, they used one word that may have defied the president on russia. Cnn politics reporter and editor at large chris saliza is with me. Does that word begin with an a . It does, but it might not be the one you think it is. I want to play two bits of sound back to back, the first donald trump talking to Tucker Carlson<\/a> on fox news the day after his summit in helsinki with vladimir putin. Lets play that. Okay. I dont want to evan auto use the word adversary. We can all work together, we can do great, everybody can do well and we can live in peace. There is that word adversary. Okay. Pay attention here, brooke, for that word. This is on thursday, as you mentioned, the sort of top intelligence officials of the\rTrump Administration<\/a> doing a show of force. Here is how they talked about russia. We do not wish to make the efforts of our adversaries any easier. Free and Fair Elections<\/a> are the cornerstone of our democracy and it has become clear that they are the target of our adversaries and new insights into potential adversaries and campaigns our adversaries influence operations have encompassed a wide range of activities. Foreign adversaries who are attempting to sew discord and division. U. S. Cyber command and the National Security<\/a> agency are tracking a wide range of foreign cyber adversaries. Thats because i was counting, six mentions of adversary just in that little clip that we played, brooke. Look, words matter. Donald trump has repeatedly said wouldnt be a good thing if we were friends with russia rather than enemies or adversaries because he simply does not see it in that light. I would say another break from his intelligence and National Security<\/a> community who quite\rclearly based on that clip see russia as an adversary. Back to you, brooke. Dan coats stood there yesterday, russia is indedeed a threat, he was incredibly tough. Watching trump last night you have to wonder is that getting through to the president . So i will add to it, getting through and is dan coats even in the loop. Let me play you just one more little bit of sound here from dan coats on thursday. Im not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. Im not in a position to either understand or really talk about what happened in helsinki. That is the top intelligence official in the Trump Administration<\/a>. That speaks, i think, to the disconnect here. Remember, donald trump wanted a oneonone meeting just translators and the two Heads Of State<\/a> between he and vladimir putin. He got that, brooke, but unfortunately we dont really\rknow what happened in that meeting and apparently we have that in common with the director of National Intelligence<\/a>, dan coats. Back to you. Chris, thank you so much. Thank you. Coming up next, Osama Bin Laden<\/a>s mother speaking out for the First Time Since<\/a> the 9 11 attacks orchestrated by her son. She is remembering what she refers to him as a good child. Peter bergen, the journalist who actually interviewed bin laden himself back in 1997 joins me next on what he thinks of this mothers words. And day four turns to the possible paper trail as Paul Manaforts<\/a> accountant and tax preparer take the stand. What theyre revealing today in court next. Bin ladens mother has just broken her silence, saying her son who was responsible for the 9 11 attack was a, quote, good child until he was brainwashed while attending college. This mother who is now in her mid 70s sat down with the Guardian Newspaper<\/a> and claimed her son wasnt to blame for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people. Quote, everyone who met him in the early days respected him. He was a very good child until he met some people who pretty much brainwashed him in his early 20s. You can call it a cult. They got money for their cause. Peter bergen, cnn National Security<\/a> analyst, you produced the first televised interview with Osama Bin Laden<\/a> back in 1997. It has been nearly 17 years since the Terror Attacks<\/a> in september of 2001. Why is this mother speaking out\rnow . I have to imagine you think this is quite unusual. Its super unusual because shes never spoken publicly before about anything, even before 9 11. Ive written a number of books about bin laden, talking to the immediate Family Members<\/a> is very hard. They live in saudi arabia, the government kind of controls their ability to talk to the press so this is, you know, unprecedented interview. The reason she is talking right now, brooke, i think is the saudi government knows they face a lawsuit in american courts by some of the families of the victims of 9 11. This lawsuit has been grinding through the courts for the past 17 years. Remains unresolved, but the suit claims that elements of the saudi government were somehow responsible for 9 11. Bin ladens mother is saying, no, no, in fact, my son was influenced by people who are not saudis, they were palestinians and others who kind of made him more essentially jihadi minded,\rmore terrorist minded. I think thats why the saudi government has allowed this interview to happen. She herself i think is quite credible and what she says in this interview is largely credible. Can we pick that apart. Let me ask you what part is largely credible. Obviously its a punch in the gut to any american to hear this mother say her murderous son was this good child, but you push past that and when she talks about outsiders like, you know, Brain Washing<\/a> her son, right . Converting him to violent jihadism in his 20s. How much truth is there to that . You know, bin laden was an adult so, you know, i dont really buy that. Certainly he kind of fell in with a group of pretty radical people in afghanistan, but he became more radical than some of the radical people he fell in with. A lot of the people who were fighting the soviets in afghanistan, you know, were doing it because they believed in the cause. They didnt necessarily, you know, set up a Terrorist Group<\/a> to attack the United States<\/a> at all. I think at a certain point bin\rladen when he founded al qaeda he was already 31, he wasnt a kid. So, you know, i dont really buy the idea that somehow he was brainwashed. So what was the most credible thing that this mother even said . Well, the credible stuff is really the account of bin laden as a kid. You know, unsurprisingly she says he was a loving son. He really was a loving son. He remained so. She paints a picture of him being a studious kid, somebody who was so, you know, when he was a teenager bin laden was very serious child, very religious and so the stuff that she knows about really when she was a mother to this kid, what mother doesnt love their child . So, you know, plenty of mass murderers who have mothers who say that their son was fabulous and shes not an exception. Sure. You started off by talking about whats happening with regard to saudi and this case. I mean, we know that his mother is in regular touch with apparently his various wives who survived that you know, that\rraid in pakistan in 2011. You note they are all living in saudi arabia. But they cant leave. Remind us why. Well, you know, there is a whole i think the key thing is the saudi government doesnt want them going out there and talking about bin laden. They themselves, you know, probably dont have much of an inclination to do that. The saudi government its an authoritarian state and they can control who leaves, who you know, the new crown prince of saudi arabia, you know, he is running a semitotalitarian regime. Whatever he wants he really gets. One thing he doesnt want is a lot of bin ladens wives, i think, getting on tv or talking about Osama Bin Laden<\/a>, reminding people about bin laden. And also, by the way, brooke, bin ladens three wives are true believers. They were with him throughout his sort of Terroristic Career<\/a> as it were and some of them are even more militant than bin\rladen, so you certainly wouldnt want them giving the kind of interview that his mother gave which is pretty anadine and isnt sort of saying were committed to jihad. Right. Compared to what his wives would be saying. Yeah. Keep them quiet. Yeah. Peter bergen, thank you. Thank you. Coming up next, this manhunt in texas comes to an end today after the man accused of killing a prominent houston cardiologist takes his own life. 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Bush and a list that included the doctors coworkers. He knew everything that you could possibly find on this man. Im not going to go any further in the details just to say that it was very extensive. Inside that Intelligence File<\/a> we found one sheet with some of dr. Hausknechts information but contained within that sheet was probably, you know, a couple dozen names of potential doctors and other employees with texas Medical Center<\/a>. When we determined that those were potential employees of the Medical Center<\/a>, we actually passed that information on to the Medical Center<\/a> and they dealt with it to make sure that notifications were being made and as they identified those employees. Lets talk about whats next for investigators. With me now former senior fbi\rprofiler and Special Agent<\/a> mary ellen otoole. Mary ellen, thank you for being with me. You know, just starting in on the suspect, listen, you know, so we know he killed himself, we know his mother died 20 years ago while she was in the hands of this doctor and they mentioned that Intelligence File<\/a> that they found at his home. What more do investigators need to look at . Well, they will need to go through his files a lot more thoroughly and thats going to take time. Did we lose her . Okay. Shall we take a break or continue on . Do we have her back . Should we take a break . We will be right back. Listening to our riders. Listening to our driver partners. I think listening is ultimately going to make us a better company. All right. Lets pick up with this next story, this possible Child Abduction<\/a> at a washington, d. C. Airport. Police have searching for this little girl who they say was abducted shortly after arriving at Reagan National<\/a> airport in d. C. With a tour group from china. An amber alert has been issued for her, she is just 12. Police say that they believe she left the airport, keywords here, without force, with an unknown woman. When you look at this airport Surveillance Video<\/a> it shows the woman helping the girl put on some sort of clothing and when they left together the 12yearold was wearing a white tshirt, blue jeans and a black jacket. So mary ellen otoole, lets try it again, our former senior fbi profiler and Special Agent<\/a> here. On this what do you make of this story, the fact that this girl according to Law Enforcement<\/a>\rleft without force, meaning she didnt appear to be dragged out of this airport by this woman . What does that tell you . Its very difficult and its the absence of force, but also the absence of any signs of stress that the little girl was under. That suggests that she might have been complicity or gone along willingly. That adds to the planning that would have gone into this case. So now the question is at what point, if thats true, at What Point Was This Quote Unquote Abduction<\/a> planned . Was it planned once the little girl got here to the United States<\/a>, that would suggest maybe Something Different<\/a> than was it planned prior to her even leaving china to come to the United States<\/a>. So a key piece in this is this girls passport. Shes with this whole tour group, they have done their thing in d. C. , they were going to head west and this happened before this girl goes through, you know, the Metal Detectors<\/a> in\rthe Security Area<\/a> but after she was handed her passport from her tour guides. You say thats significant. Tell me why. I say thats significant because had the little girl gone through the Security Checkpoint<\/a>, someone without a ticket, the unidentified adult, she could not have gone through the Security Checkpoint<\/a>. What the little 12yearold would have had to do is to make a uturn and come back through the Security Checkpoint<\/a> and pass by the tsa officers, a lone 12yearold girl, she would have gone noted at that point and that would have raised a lot of suspicion. So whatever happened had to occur before she went through the checkpoint. Secondarily, her having that passport would be important. Now, obviously people will say, well, they will change the name on it, and thats true, but at least that gives somebody a template on which to make a modification like a name change. Now shes got id and she didnt go through security and raise those suspicions. How about the fact, though, that you see her walking in on these pictures wearing one thing, she walks out, she changes into something else. The woman helps her change clothes. Shes not fighting her off. Thats very significant which would suggest that this that this young girl knew this woman. The question is how well did she know her . Is this somebody that shes known for a long time or someone that she met serendipitously while she was here in the United States<\/a>. If this was an event that this little girl was looking forward to, in other words, im going to hook up with my aunt or my you know, somebody else, a friend of the family, its likely that this 12yearold girl being a 12yearold girl confided to someone or made contact with these people during the time that she was in new york or here in d. C. , and investigators will be looking for all of her contacts and talking to the other children that were on that trip. At least they have all these photos and of course that car waiting outside, photos outside the airport as well. Here is hoping they get her and they find her safely. Mary ellen otoole, thank you so much for your expertise on that. Now to this, a fringe right wing Conspiracy Group<\/a> is growing more and more popular with supporters at trump rallies. The group is called qanon. It showed up at another one of trumps rallies last night although we should note the president has never spoken publicly about them or endorsed them. Cnns gary tuchman takes a closer look at whats behind this group. Reporter Waiting In Line<\/a> in a driving rain, very motivated trump supporters, wanting to see the president in person in wilkesbarre, pennsylvania. Some of those people wearing and holding the 17th letter of the alphabet. Are you holding a big red bite and blue q. Why do you have that . Its a movement, man. Its the shift. I can feel it coming. Some call it the great awakening. Youre wearing a shirt that says qwwgiwga what does that mean. Where we go one we go all. Qanon is the people that believe in what interest ump is trying to do to change our country. Reporter that is a generalization. More specifically what it is is a Fringe Movement<\/a> in which many baseless Conspiracy Theories<\/a> are discussed on the internet organized around the idea of an anonymous but well connected person or persons quick named q. Your shirt says the storm is here qanon. What does that mean to you . Ive been following all the posts since october 28. On the internet. Right. The person or people who say theyre q. Right. What do you think q is, by the way . Its an entity of ten or less people that have involved with the government . High clearance, you know, security clearance. How do you know that . Well, im just telling you this is what it appears to be. What it appears to be so you dont have any proof of that. Thats what youre guessing it is. And you dont have any proof there isnt. Weve all been gathering in one line and talking together as\ramericans and uniting and do you think maybe it makes you comfortable talking with other frustrated sometimes angry people. Yes. Maybe its not true because there is no evidence of it, its the stuff being talked about on the internet, right . There hasnt been any nonevidence yet. Reporter a major mantra, the press is the enemy. So you dont believe in the first amendment. I totally believe in the first amendment. You guys are totally when niced by the cia. By the cia . I dont know anybody in the cia except a couple people ive interviewed over the years. What does it even mean . You say stuff that doesnt even mean anything. Conspiracy theorists. Do you think im weaponized by the cia. Maybe not to your knowledge. Thats unfortunate. You believe there is a deep state . Yes. And what do you think that deep state is doing . Do you think theyre running this country . I believe they were and theyre petrified now because theyre losing their control. But donald trump is the president , hes running the country, right . Yeah, but hes having to fight against he said he could do it all\rhimself, everything would be so easy when he gets into office. I think hes been fighting since before he was elected. Who is in this deep state . I definitely believe that the clintons, the bushes, the obamas. You think the clintons, bushes, obamas are running this country as we stand here in the rain . No, theyre trying. Reporter the anonymous q is a hero to many here. One man actually hoping to communicate with q by looking straight into our camera. Is it possible youre believing Bogus Information<\/a>, yes or no . Is it possible im believing Bogus Information<\/a> . Lets see. Lets see, q. Lets see. Reporter gary tuchman, cnn, wilkesbarre, pennsylvania. Okay. An alarming Sex Abuse Arrest<\/a> at a shelter where immigrant children are being held in mesa, arizona. A former Healthcare Worker<\/a> is a charged with mow lesing boys between 15 and 17 between august 2016 and july of last year. The former employee faces a total of 11 charges. In a separate case Police Arrested<\/a> this 32yearold man who works at a Phoenix Shelter<\/a> after he was accused of mow lesing a 14yearold migrant girl. Dianne gallagher is on this today. Tell me whats happening with these cases. Reporter lets talk about that first one there in mesa, arizona, with the eight boys. Look, this turned my stomach, brooke, just reading this to begin with. The man who has been charged in those cases his them is leveon paceco. It happened from august 2016 until july of 2017. He was a Youth Care Worker<\/a> at a Southwest Key<\/a> facility in mesa, arizona. Accords to documents with the court he basically molested these boys age 15 to 17, eight of them, he touched them in their genitalia over their clothes, he performed oral sex he is accused of doing with two of the boys and attempting to have Sexual Intercourse<\/a> with at least one of them as well. Now, again, he has denied these, he has not been convicted of them. Southwest key who is one of the largest operators, a contractor of these Hhs Orr Facilities<\/a> issued a statement to cnn where they essentially said, look, we followed protocol, any employee accused of abuse is immediately suspended and Law Enforcement<\/a> is called. This is what we did in this case. In addition we reported it to orr and the appropriate state agency. We report these cases to Law Enforcement<\/a> and State Agencies<\/a> when they happen. Again, that is from Southwest Key<\/a>. The case that you alluded to just a few moments ago in phoenix, arizona, with the 14yearold girl that also happened at a Southwest Key<\/a> facility, brooke. How widespread is this . Well, to be very honest were not quite sure. We are hearing about this more and more each week it seems like. There is at least one or two more cases. Just last week pro publica who actually first reported that from the one in mesa, arizona, with leveon paceco they did an\rinvestigation where they were able to obtain call logs, reports and records from police have 70 of about the 100 of these Immigrant Youth Facilities<\/a> that are run by contractors with hhs and orr. They found over the past five years, brooke, police had responded to at least 125 calls reporting sexual offenses, but, again, this isnt complete. They werent able to get everything and thats just 70 of the roughly 100 of these. So to be honest we dont know how widespread it is, but thats a large number. Details of those cases are staggering. Thank you so much. Please stay on this for us. We want to take you back to the Breaking News<\/a> in the Russia Investigation<\/a> today, the fact that the special counsels team just interviewed this woman who once ran a high priced new york call girl ring. Shes known as the Manhattan Madam<\/a>. Were talking about her possible ties to long time trump adviser roger stone. Her ties, we know they were very close. Also ahead, apple becoming the First American<\/a> company who hit a trillion dollars in value. So we had a little fun with this today. What can you buy with a trillion dollars . Wait until you hear this coming up. Eligible for medicare. Gimme two minutes. And ill tell you some important things to know about medicare. First, it doesnt pay for everything. Say this pizza. [mmm pizza. ] is your part b medical expenses. This much about 80 percent. Medicare will pay for. Whats left. This slice here. Well. Thats on you. And thats where an aarp Medicare Supplement<\/a> insurance plan, insured by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company<\/a> comes in. This type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesnt. And these are the only plans to carry the aarp endorsement. Thats because they meet their high standards of quality and service. Wanna learn more . Its easy. 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It allows you to choose any doctor, who accepts medicare patients. And these are the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. Whew Call Unitedhealthcare<\/a> today and ask for this free decision guide. Your Digestive System<\/a> has billions of bacteria but life can throw them off balance. Realign yourself with align probiotic. And try new align gummies with prebiotics and probiotics to help support digestive health. At crowne plaza, we know Business Travel<\/a> isnt just business. Theres this. A bit of this. Why not . Your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. Which is what we do. Crowne plaza. Were all business, mostly. Three other companies are on their heels, amazon, google. What can you buy with 1 trillion. Paula monica is with us to have a little fun. I i will resist the urge to do dr. Evil. With a trillion you could buy 27 almost tesla cars. Thats the cheaper tesla car. They run 35,000 or so with the incentive. You can buy 27 million of them. You could also buy 3. 6 million houses, thats at about 277,000 a house, the median home price across the United States<\/a>. So you could have a nice little city there. You can also buy if you really love apple products, we know a lot of people do, you can buy 1\rbillion iphone xs, thats 999. You can also buy apple Music Subscription<\/a> if you really like your music and itunes, you can pay for 5. 6 billion years worth of music which wouldnt really we like music. I dont know that thats a good value proposition. If apple were its own country it would be the 17th largest in the world based on a trillion dollars if that were gdp. So its sandwiched in between indonesia and turkey, just behind mexico. So, apple, the United States<\/a> of apple, would be a formidable economic threat. Im sure we would be Slapping Tariffs<\/a> on them right now. Want to do it again . 1 trillion. 1 trillion. Michael myers, please dont sue. Thank you. Now to stunning video here of something that happens to women every day. Every day. Harassment of some form. Can be subtle, just a few words,\ror worse. A slap, a punch or something sexually inappropriate. Nothing about that is okay. But rarely is that act caught on camera. So let me tell you about something that recently happened to a woman in france and watch with me. Upper righthand corner of your screen, the scene broad daylight on a street in paris. We will loop this for you. Youre watching the woman in a red dress, walks past this guy, says something insulting her to her, sexual and derogatory in nature. Shes shocked, says shut up, keeps walking and apparently he hears her, he grabs an ashtray, flings it back at her, she yells at him, the guy doubles back and follows her and punches her in the face. Here is what she had to say about it. So i took the punch with the most pride i could because i didnt want to show him any sign of weakness or any sign that he\rwas actually going to put me down. Yeah. I was very lucky that video was recording the incident because i think that its an issue that women have been talking about for years. She said in that interview to cnn that this Wasnt The First Time<\/a> that day or even that week that Something Like<\/a> that had been said inappropriately to her. At least you can see eyewitnesses there at that restaurant jump up and defend this woman, one guy in the white actually grabs a chair and starts rushing the man. Nothing about this is acceptable, but it is rarely exposed in such a public way. So, man, woman, keep your hands and harmful words to yourself. Announcer this is cnn Breaking News<\/a>. 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