The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. Against Michael Cohen. But give us your testimony and well sort out who needs to get charged. It can depend. It may not be with regard to state crimes. I know there was some talk today that the state the District Attorney locally looking in to trumps issues as well. It is just not general immunity for all things everywhere, but specifically as it relates to this. And this is the u. S. Attorney who granted immunity to weisselberg in the cohen case, but as you point out, we learned the manhattan d. A. Is also considering pursuing criminal case involving the Trump Organization and two of its executives. Do you think that those two jurisdictions are talking to each other . I would guess they are. One of the hall marks of effective Law Enforcement and prosecution is cooperating with other offices. If you look back at the cohen case, it seems to be the case that that sprung out of the states investigation of this guy friedman. So good prosecutors office
ago. If he had the goods, if there was a crime committed, why didnt we hear it the other day. There was no crime in that tape. So i feel like if cohen really had the goods, we would have heard it then and we didnt. So while im sure no one likes to have the government prosecutors in their lives in way and they should be worried, but i havent yet seen a crime. And i wonder too if because this is not muellers probe, remember he gave it to the other district in new york, now were also talking about not only the Southern District of new york, but the manhattan d. A. I mean, trump had once said Family Finances would be a red line. Could the president get involved in any way in this . He certainly might try. If anyone might try, it would be him. But then i think were getting into dangerous territory of obstruction of justice. If he tries to shut it down because it is going a place he didnt like, how is that possibly justifiable. The president doesnt get to say okay department of justice, i want you looking here but you may not cross this line into
here or ill shut you down he especially when the over here is his own information. That is straight out obstruction of justice. Obstruction of justice i think some perspective is important. I once did a case where we tried and convicted somebody of obstructing justice because he tried to get a witness to change one fact of her testimony. Here we have trump trying to burn the whole thing down. So to me, this is flagrant obstruction of justice. Which of the current cases, investigations, should President Trump be most concerned about . So again, i mean i havent really heard a crime. We are talking about obviously he should be concerned about all of it. And politically there are bigger problems for him certainly. But legally, you know, most of what he is accused of doing, while it might be immoral, while it might be sort of icky, im not sure any of that rises to the level of a crime. Even the Campaign Finance stuff, cohen may have committed a crime, that didnt mean that trump committed a crime. I havent yet heard the crime. Do you agree . Wife certaineve certainly he as to Michael Cohen. Michael cohen said that i did this with and for the president. That needs to be tested still, but i think ultimately the biggest threat to the president is from the mueller investigation. I think that is the one that if they hit the mark there, that is the only one that can really take him down politically. Thank you both. Always good to have you with us. Great expertise and insight. On this friday, we have more breaking news. This time in north korea, President Trump abruptly calling off the nuclear talks, canceling a trip by his Secretary Of State that was supposed to happen next week. What is behind the change in plans . Muss saplus sad news, Cindy Tweeting i love my husband with all of moo my heart. He will disagree treatment for brain cancer. Well here senator mccain in his own words. And later the man who wrote good fellas says he sees eerie similarities between mob bosses and President Trump. Well see how some of the president s language is borrowed from the mafia. Request booking a flight at the last minute doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. The first survivor of alzis out there. Ase
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respect to the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. Joining us now, Michelle Company z kozinski and josh ro rogen. Why the aboutface . I know. We knew days ago that the trip was planned, so we started to think that the north koreans have possibly at the very least, showed some willingness to play ball this time since things have been going badly. It was only a couple weeks ago we heard the National Security adviser saying that things were not where they wanted them to be even in the process of Getting Started on the path towards denuclearization. So then yesterday they have this big event where they gather the press at the State Department, Secretary Of State announced that we have a new o. Envoy to north korea now. They are all going to north korea next week. You know, good news it seemed. We did ask the state Department Just yesterday does this mean that this is because there has been some additional progress. They wouldnt say anything about it. And then all of a sudden today the president via a series of tweets announces that this isnt happening, that, no, there appears to be no progress. But he makes it all about china. He says that china isnt helping in this process. And lets maybe wait and see and get together soon with the north koreans wont we work out the trade deal with china. So it seems like this is absolutely coming from the white house, possibly more to do with trade with china than anything changing on the north korean side because things have not been going well there. But what is the State Department saying about this right now . Absolutely nothing, ana. Crickets. Josh, right after the summit with kim jungun, trump hailed in a tweet that there was, quote, no longer a nuclear
threat from north korea. And now he is admitting that it is not going well. This is really a change in tone and one that doesnt come often from this president. What were seeing is that trumps private frustration with the progress of the north Korea NuclearDiplomacy Spilling out into public view for the very first time. And what that reflects is a change in the internal Battle Inside the top level of the Trump Administration over what is going on, how bad is it, and what we should do about it. National security adviser john bolton but not just are bolton, a lot of others, have been pushing the president privately to take what they call a more realistic approach, but what others cause a more hawkish roach. A approach. And that means talking tough, acknowledging the reality that there is no progress, and considering a pivot to a stance that is more public, more confrontational, might include more Pressure Mechanisms like sanctions. And it seems that today those hard liners have won the day
because the president is now taking that exact public position. Now, that didnt mean we know what is going to happen tomorrow. Remember, this could be a tactical play by the president. Right before the singapore summit, he canceled the summit and everybody panicked. And then a few days later it was back on when kim jungun did something to prove thhe was sti interested. So we have to entertain the possibility that the president is sending a signal of cut the crap and then everything can be okay again. And one last thing, when the president says i look forward to seeing you soon, but youre not going to see mike pompeo, well, Isnt He Cutting his own top diplomat off at the knees by canceling his trip and then saying deal with me, im the president. Well talk about dealing with pompeo some other time. Pretty astounding. Or is he trying to to have it both ways, sort of maintain the close friendship so to speak with kim jungun but at the same time saying you wont get to
talk. Possible. President trump at the same time simultaneously in his own self playing Good Cop Bad Cop here and signing this series of tweets like regards and respect and look forward to seeing you soon as if something is going to happen soon. But he is saying you know, well play hard ball, but i have a lot of respect for you and look forward to seeing you. I mean, it is really hard to figure out what is going on here and what the u. S. Side wants to see. And u. S. Allies are saying the same, that they are reacting to this like what is going on . And they are not getting a lot of answers either. Josh, you wrote a piece before this announcement about this being a moment of truth for Secretary Of State mike pompeo going to north korea on this issue of denuclearization. What is the reality about what is happening inside north korea when it comes to its Nuclear Program . Well, while there have been several steps to build
confidence and reduce tensions like bringing home remains of u. S. Soldiers, stopping missile tests, those are all good things. But on the due nuclear track, there has been zero to little progress. Last time pompeo went to ponk i pyongyang, it was largely viewed as a humiliation. Now this time there is a good chance that could happen again and that would have been a huge blow to our whole diplomatic effort. It was a risk mike pompeo was willing to take along with his new special envoy. And now they have decided not to take that risk. And that just shows you that there is an acknowledgement inside this administration that this is not going as well as they wanted to and they fell li feel like they have to do something different. Mike pompeo wanted to keep pushing and he got overruled. And now we have to wait for kim jungun to make the next move. Josh, michelle, thank you both. Back to our breaking new
yous, the Trump Organizations money man getting immunity in the Michael Cohen investigation. Details on what Allen Weisselberg may know and what that means for President Trumps mounting legal troubles. vo this is not a video game. This is not a screensaver. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. Anncr as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. Learning from him is great. When i can keep up anncr thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. Dads got all the answers. Anncr prevagen is now the numberoneselling brain Health Supplement in drug stores nationwide. She outsmarts me every single time. Checkmate you wanna play again . Anncr prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Im a small business, but i have. Big dreams. And big plans. So how do i make the efforts of 8 employees. Feel like 50 . How can i share new plans virtually . How can i download an efile . Virtual tours . Zipfile . Really big files . In seconds, not minutes. Just like that. Like everything. The answer is simple. Ill do what ive always done. Dream more, dream faster, and above all. Now, ill dream gig. Now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. Now to breaking news, President Trumps loyal circle is crumbling. Were learning of yet another Immunity Deal, this time forAllen Weisselberg. He was granted immunity by federal prosecutors for providing information about Michael Cohen. A source previously told Cnn Weisselberg knows, quote, anything and everything about the finances of the Trump Organization. Cnn anchor Michael Smerconish is joining us now. What do you make of this new Immunity Deal . On the surface it doesnt make sense. There has to be much more going on here than meets the eye. Michael cohen is not a mob boss. Right . You dont have to treat this case like it is the prosecution of john gotti and give Everybody Else immunity especially where Michael Cohen walked into the feds and told them what he knew. If you already have pecker, why do you need weisselberg and vice versa. I just cannot believe this is all about offering immunity to both pecker and weisselberg to go after Michael Cohen alone. If i were the president , i think id be very nervous about what is going on in the southern
district of new york. And frankly, ana, i dont think that you put together all these Immunity Deals if the only thing youre going after is conspiracy to commit election fraud. So i cant fully explain to you, but im absolutely not buying the explanation that the feds gave immunity to these two individuals just to go after Michael Cohen. And if i were Michael Cohen, id be saying geez, why didnt they give me immunity. None of it makes sense. You mentioned Michael Cohen and the words mob boss. Other people have used mob boss in talking about President Trump himself this week given some of the language hes used about flipping, some of the comments hes made about manafort and the conviction there. The New York Times has an article out today where the guy who wrote good fellas draws similarities between trump and a mob on boss, quoting from the article here, it writes, when i first heard that trump said to comey let this go, it just rang such a bell with me, said the
author who has chronicled the mafia in books and films. Trump was raised in that environment, it was normal aized to him. What is your take . My take is that the president has a very attenuated ear and that he knows how to reach his base. And maybe it is a guy thing, those of us who can recite every single line from godfather 1 and 2. 3 not so much. But i think that he taps into a vein of some support that exists for those that the feds are going after. I think he knows what he is doing in this regard and he is laying a predicate so that he can later say, look, they invested all that time and all that money and this is the best they could come up with . Ive talked to Trump Supporters who say that they love that he does not talk like a politician. Not sure this is what they had in mind though. But there has been more talk
from the president himself this week of the possibility of impeachment. And yet democrats have been a little wishywashy on this issue. What is the risk of raising that if you are a democrat . Well, i think that the democratic ideologues, those on the far left of the party, really want this and for t