Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201902

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin February 12, 2019

Homeland security. The deal was just the first hurdle. Up next you have the vote and key voices on the right, both in the media and on capitol hill say, this isnt good enough. House Freedom Caucus chairman mark meadows a close trump ally tweeting that the deal isnt serious and that, quote, congress is not doing its job. And while the president says another shutdown isnt likely that doesnt mean that he approves. Sir, will you sign congresss border deal . I have to study it. Im not happy about it. Its not doing the trick, but im adding things to it and when you add whatever i have to add, its all its all going to happen where well build a beautiful, big strong wall. Cnns abby phillip is live at the white house and abby, we just heard the president say that hes adding things to this deal struck by congress. Reporter its not clear exactly sorry, brooke. I think i lost you here. Can you hear me, abby . Reporter its not clear what President Trump meant by that. Hes referring to this conference report. The problem is if President Trump decides all of a sudden that hes going to change or add to this bill, it could be a serious problem. Republicans and democrats have been haggling over this for weeks. They would have to go back to the drawing board to get buyin for whatever President Trump wants to add to it. There is one thing that President Trump has been working on with his aides for weeks now behind the scenes and that is potentially getting money together from other parts of the government in order to build the wall without congress appropriating the money for it, at least not at the levels that he had asked for, 5. 7 billion. Now if he takes what Congress Gives him in this bill and then adds to it money that has been pulled from other parts of the government, then he might be able to get a number thats closer to 5. 7. If the president wants to go back to the drawing board with lawmakers just a few days before this february 15th deadline, that could be a major problem. It could mean that they dont end up getting to the end of the road here before the government shuts down again. That being said, i think a lot of people took what President Trump said in that room that theres not going to be a shutdown as at least one positive sign that if he doesnt want a shutdown, the only way to not have a shutdown is for him to not sign an appropriations bill, brooke. Abby phillip, thank you, at the white house and aside from proclaiming himself a master negotiator and a top businessman, a border wall was the one thing President Trump staked his campaign on. We are going to build a great border wall. And whos going to pay for the wall . Mexico whos going to pay for the wall . Mexico. But a funny thing happened on the way to the white house, the president s promise ran into reality and no matter what he says to rally his base, the facts just cannot be denied. We all know mexico isnt paying for any of it and then theres trumps latest claim we dont need to build the wall, we just need to finish it. Here he was in el paso. Today we started a big, beautiful wall right on the rio grande. Now, you really mean finish that wall because weve built a lot of it. Its finish that wall. Now, lets just pause, shall we, that the u. S. mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles long. Physical barriers, pedestrian and vehicle fencing currently cover about a third of that. So theres no fence at all for the rio grande and while construction is set to begin this month, the rio grande valley, the size of the project is only 14 miles. Translation theres a long way to go to finish the wall. But lets keep going. Because during the state of the union the president said a wall helped the city of el paso, texas, go from, his words, one of the most dangerous cities to one of the safest and he doubled down on that just last night. I dont care whether a mayor is a republican or a democrat, theyre full of crap when they say it hasnt made a big difference. I heard the same thing from the fake news. They said, oh, crime stayed the same. Didnt stay the same. Went way down. Heres the truth from 2005 to 2007, el paso had the third lowest crime rate for a city its size and that was before a wall was built in mid2008 according to factcheck. Org and when you hear the president say, Violent Crime dropped overnight thanks to the wall, thats false too. Fbi data shows that over the span of five years both before and after the wall was built, el pasos Violent Crime increased. So bottom line, el paso was never one of the most dangerous cities in the u. S. And a wall did not solve any problems with crime it may have had and those folks are just the fact. Lets bring in political reporter Chris Cillizza and when asked whether he would declare a National Emergency, the president says im considering everything, so give us the Historical Context for this . How does this emergency compare to others . Lets run through it. Thank you for doing, in fact, check segment. Lets get through some more facts. Facts. Okay. First of all, broad scale, 1976 the National Emergencies act is passed which tries to sort of make specific what you can and cant do but National Emergencies have been declared before that. Lets run through the big ways in which theyre declared, brooke. 9 11, bush 43, the iraq war, the great depression, fdr interestingly enough. Thats pre1976 but fdr closes all banks so all these banks dont fail and worsen the great depression. Immediate reaction to something pressing, right, something that might fit our most obvious definition of National Emergency. Swine flu, this was the h1n1 flu. Obama declared this. Trying to make sure all the resources possible, whether thats hospitals or urgent care were deployed to help deal with that. Nixon, this is fascinating, nixon dealt with a postal strike. Postal workers went on strike for eight days. He deployed the National Guard to deliver your mail. 58 National Emergencies have been declared, brooke, since 1976. Of those 58, 31 are ongoing and the reason is because most of these deal with sanctions. Bush the iraq war still in place, sanctioning, trying to put in place sanctions to keep other foreign actors usually from abusing our relationship with them. Nuclear proliferation, again easy for me to say clinton did this in the middle of his first term saying, biological chemical and Nuclear Weapons are a huge danger to our country and to the world. We need to direct resources to deal with any americans who are working on proliferation. We need to cut that back. So, you know, theres all that and then theres the politics. This is important. Our new colleague mike warren, he wrote this piece about why republicans really are afraid of a National Emergency declaration. This is important. Okay. Trump declares National Emergency. Possible he said all things are on the table as you said. The house, which is controlled by democrats in case youve been on another planet for the last couple months, they passed a resolution, a privilege resolution that essentially says, we oppose this. Privilege resolutions gets into the nerdy weeds of congress but they have to have a vote in the senate. Mitch mcconnell couldnt table it. Theyd have to vote and what would that mean . An up or down vote on donald trump declaring a National Emergency over the border wall, right . Youve seen Mitch Mcconnell time and time again in the senate try to avoid putting his republican conference in a place where they need to say, huh or you huh on whether a border wall, works, number one and certainly in this case, whether there should be a National Emergency declared over it. This scenario is a political nightmare. He would not be smiling if this happened. That is Mitch Mcconnells smile, by the way. He would not be smiling if that happened and thats another reason that theres legal and political worries about going down this path. Thats why trump may say i dont like this deal, but hes also hedging on a shutdown because i think he knows maybe signing this deal is the only viable thing to move them forward. Back to you, brooke. Is it the mark meadows of the word that have the voice or Mitch Mcconnell . Correct. Excellent, explanation. Thank you very much. An opinion columnist is with me and doug high for the rnc. Welcome, to both of you. Katherine, lets just dive in. Trump says a shutdown is unlikely. It sounds like hes leaving this door open potentially for executive action, which of course wouldnt require congressional approval. Mick mulvaney says there are pots of money, so that said, what are potential options moving forward and where are these pots of money . Those were excellent questions. I think i want to take a step back first which is to say that as i see this, trump actually got something for essentially nothing, right . Everybodys talking about how trump got nothing out of this or at least he got a worse deal as i see it, he got almost 1. 4 billion for a wall that we dont need and that most american dont want. Democrats did not get anything major in response. The deal last year was over a grand bargain relate to go dreamers for more money so they didnt get that. Maybe trump should just quit while hes ahead. Accept this money and say, you know what . Im getting something, the democrats didnt really get anything in return. He can declare a National Emergency but thats going to cause lots of problems with his copartisans on the hill, of course. Not to mention in the courts. Thats a whole other issue here and the fact that even if they can cobble together the money they still have to go through eminent domain. It seems very unlikely that this is a Winning Strategy for him. Doug, do you agree with katherine . Should he just take it and run with it . I think so. This is the least bad option we have out there and unfortunately its one of the reasons that people are so cynical about politics right now. This is ultimately could be resolved as just an issue over semantics so that trump says he has a wall, democrats say he hasnt and everybody goes home and is either happy or relatively unhappy. Theres an opportunity for donald trump whether here or more broadly. If you look at what the white house did with criminal justice reform, that can be a blueprint for how to get big things done and get them done on a bipartisan fashion. If trump wants to be as you referred to him earlier as the great negotiator that he promised us that he was going to be, immigrations an issue where he can take his base if hes willing to, they trust him, they will go with him on immigration and he can cut a deal that not only other republican candidates that he beat in 2016 wouldnt have been able to cut but also that he can truthfully say i got Something Big done that barack obama didnt. He should seize that opportunity. Which we know he likes to say whenever he possibly can. Theres a possibility for a grand bargain here and whether its related to dreamers which theres a lot of bipartisan support for finding a legal path, a permanent path for those dreamer kids, daca kids, versus a wall or what have you. Theres opportunity for a grand bargain and theres no reason why that grand bargain has to involve like whether irs refunds go out or whether airtraffic control workers get paid . Why are any of these things related . He weighs in on that during this meeting this afternoon. He also weighs in on the firestorm surrounding the freshman congresswoman ilhan omar and her tweet that was antisemitic. Here was the president. Congressman omar is terrible what she said and i think she should either resign from congress or she should certainly resign from the House Foreign Affairs committee. What she said is so deep seated in her heart that her lame apology thats what it was it was lame and she didnt mean a word of it, was just not appropriate. I think she should resign from congress, frankly, but at a minimum she shouldnt be on committees, certainly that committee. So lame apology so says this president , doug, this is the guy who once upon a time said grab them by the you know what and talked about shole countries and the recent trail of tears tweet, trail of tears genocide, a dark period in this country, charlottesville, good people on both sides, muslim ban. I could go on. Should she resign . Here he is saying all of this from his perch at the white house. As youve highlighted, donald trump is not the best messenger here. From the perspective of having worked for eric canter, ive seen a lot of this kind of ugly rhetoric used. We would hear so often talked about new york bankers and we knew what that meant. This apology wasnt unequivocal. She equivocated in the second paragraph. Thats part of whats unacceptable about this. While i dont think she needs to step down for this, it certainly is troubling in what weve seen and this also mirrors a rise in antisemitism in the Democratic Party and in the global left. We see this in the labor party in the uk as well. Its a real problem. Im glad nancy pelosi and steny hoyer spoke up about this. Democrats need to do a better job of policing themselves. The messenger is problematic. Doug and katherine, thank you so much on whats happened at the white house. Breaking news in the case of one of the worlds most notorious drug lords, a chapo has just learned his fate. Amy klobuchar is the president s worst nightmare. New revelations on bill cosbys life behind bars while he thinks prison is an amazing experience. Youre watching cnn. And you dont have time for a cracked windshield. Thats why we show you exactly when well be there. Saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. Kids safelite repair, safelite replace this is a very difficult job. Failure is not an option. A. More than half of employees across the country bring Financial Stress to work. If youre stressed out financially at home, youre going to be too worried to be able to do a good job. 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They would be deliberating on count one and that would correlate with other things that were in count seven of the indictment. It was a very complicated one. It also went on for three months and its not unusual for one rule of thumb you hear sometimes is that its one day of deliberation per week of a trial, so six days, not at all unreasonable here. Okay. In terms of the case. Sentencing isnt until june 25th but the first charge carries a mandatory life sentence, but, you know, as we well know, hes this notorious escape artist and wasnt part of the deal in the extradition with mexico that he be locked up presumably forever in a super max facility up here, so he aint getting out is what im saying. I would say hes not getting out. The crimes that this case focused on were, you know, really unbelievable and this is a guy who has said publicly he may have been involved in the killing of two to 3,000 people. He had such an elaborate and huge drug operation, he even had a submarine that was delivering some of the drugs to the United States. I dont know how the wall would stop a submarine, but it demonstrates that a lot of drugs come in through unusual means into the United States and el chapo he ran a billion dollars drug cartel so this is huge this conviction. When mexico, something when mexico extradited him to the u. S. Off the table was the Death Penalty. I found that to be fascinating especially given the huge number thousands of mexican citizens were allegedly murdered by this cartel but they required the u. S. To agree that they would not put him to death if he was convicted, so thats usually when we extradite from other countries that dont custom mayoral use the Death Penalty we face that condition. Likely lifetime witness protection, i could keep going, el chapo, what a trial, case closed. They

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