Unanswered. And so there is a lot of clamor frankly and i think a lot of pressure that is built around built up around the Justice Department and on the attorney general frankly is because we have not yet heard from Robert Mueller, from his team. So the question is what kind of accommodation could be arranged here, perhaps some private portion of this testimony, but it is clear that a fullon daylong hearing is not what Robert Mueller and his team really want to do, specially given the partisan atmosphere here that surrounded this investigation nowadays. So as those negotiations of will he or wont he and if he does how does he do it continues. You have more news on doj making a offer to try to get the house intelligence commit i to back off a quote unquote enforcement action against the attorney general bill barr. Adam schiff in the house had threatened to take some kind of unspecified enforcement action against the attorney attorn t attorney general as soon as tomorrow and now they are offering for the democrats in the committee to come and see some of the materials that theyve been demanding, some of the underlying investigative materials that, again, have been at the the crux of this fight between the democrats and in congress and the Justice Department. If you remember, the attorney general bill bar has offered them to come and see the unpredicted report. So far republicans have gone over a number of republicans have gone over, but no democrats have taken up this offer. So what the Justice Department is now doing is saying, look, you could come over and look at unredacted report and get to see some 12 categories of materials that schiff and the democrats have been asking for again in short order as a way to sort of unstuck this this standoff that has been going on between the hill and the Justice Department. Well see whether or not this is something that is doable for the democrats because, again, he had promised some kind of unspecified action against the attorney general and hes held in contempt by one commit in the house and well see whether this is something that at least against the gets the ball moving on these negotiations between the two sides. Well see if it will. Evan, thank you so much. Evan perez in washington. As the democrats oversight war with the white house escalates, a new battle is brewing within the party and it all has to do with impeachment. Calls for taking that action against the president are growing increasingly loud. For some democrats after former White House Counsel Don Mcgahn failed to appear at the House Judiciary Committee and the white house directed don mcgahn to skip it and saying his role as a former top trump adviser means he is exempt by the democrat who runs this committee, new york congressman jerry nadler said one way or another, don mcgahn will testify. Our subpoenas are not optional. Let me be clear. This committee will hear mr. Mcgahns testimony even if we have to go to court to secure it. And moments ago the chair of the House OversightCommittee Said that he is getting there on moving forward with impeachment proceedings as the white house continues to stonewall. I think what the president has done has put us in a position where we cannot get any information to do the oversight that we need to do. And that basically ties our hands and makes us, with regard to oversight, powerless. The question now becomes what do we do . Do we allow this to continue . And where do we end up if we do that . That is the question. And im still mulling it over and talking to my colleagues when i get on the floor in a few minutes. But im getting there. We are on capitol hill and so sunlin, Speaker Pelosi has been clear that she wants it to go through the courts and that impeachment should be the last resort. But tomorrow she holds a caucuswide meeting where sources say this issue will likely come up. Where does the Democratic Party stand . Well they are still certainly very divided, brooke. I think that is the best way to summarize it. But this is very clearly a very significant and important moment for house democrats. Just in the last 24 hours we are hearing increasing calls from Many Democrats, many seasoned democrats saying no, we should go ahead and move towards starting the impeachment process now. Don mcgahn, former white House Counsel not showing up for the House Judiciary Committee and did hefying that congressional subpoena and raised alarms saying, look this stonewalling from the white house has gotten to a new level. Essentially the last straw for Many Democrats who had previously been skeptical and shy add w shied away from talking about impeachment and this is the way it played out on capitol hill today. We need to use every tool at our disposal to hold the administration accountable. If that leads us to looking into impeachment, well get there. But it is one step at a time. And i was not in favor of some of the earlier efforts around impeachment. The president is creating the circumstances where we may have to consider it. Im personally much more open to it now than i was even a few months ago. My position on impeachment is what it has always been and that is the president of the United States of America Needs to be impeached. Reporter now you hear that divide playing out among democrats. But those democrats becoming more open to opening up the door to impeachment and putting considerable pressure on nancy pelosi and House Democratic leadership. Of course you said they are going to convene a caucuswide meeting tomorrow morning and most certainly this will come up and a reset button as the fairive for house leadership has taken away from themselves this week. Pelosi behind closed doors in meetings this week, emphasizing to stay the course and be deliberate and focus on investigations and oversight, brooke. Sunlan, thank you very much. Lets chat about this. Tim naftally is a director of the nixon president ial library and Michael Zeldin worked as a special assistant to Robert Mueller at doj and a former federal prosecutor and a cnn legal analyst. So gentlemen, welcome. And michael, to you first, since you worked with mueller, you could just help us understand his mindset . Why would he, according to his team, not want to testify . Be hesitant . Well, when ken starr testified in the clinton investigation before congress, it was so politically charged that his ethics adviser sam dash wellknown from water game fame quit in protest over starrs testimony. We saw political wrangling with Patrick Fitzgerald who investigated special counsel Valerie Plame unnaming. And i think mueller doesnt want to get in that same soup with these guys, letting his report speak for itself. So i think that is his mindset. I dont need this trouble. My report is comprehensive. There is nothing more that i could add. Bouncing off of that, tim, do you think that if he were to testify, because he doesnt want this to make to make this any more political than it already is, which some would say would be impossible, would it ding his ding the report, the validity and the substance in the report and also his own credibility . Well, my reading of the report volume 2, the obstruction of justice section, gave me the impression that this was supposed to be the beginning of a conversation, not the end. So i would be surprised if mr. Mueller werent unhappy with thestonewalling with the administration and especially by his old friend or colleague bill barr. Because if you think about what he thought barr was going to do, barr was going to was supposed to release those summaries that his team put together. He would never have had his team put those summaries together if he didnt expect them to be released but william barr didnt release them and im not sure if mr. Mueller isnt happy with the way this is handled. So i dont agree that the the Mueller Report should peek for itself. That is not possible. Seeing what happened to james comey and knowing the history that michael just explained, mr. Mueller does not want to become a political player. On the other hand he must feel disappointed on the fact the report has not led to more discussions about obstruction of justice. He was not have written that report, it is my reading, the way he did if he didnt want to be the beginning of a conversation about obstruction and not the end. I want to hear michael respond to that. Why would he not want to do that, a. , and b. , how upset do you think he is with his old friend bill barr. Agree with tim. I think that mueller believed when he wrote in his report he didnt want to make a charging decision so as not to preempt the Congress Role and that he thought that congress would take it up on their own initiative and he therefore is no longer needed as a witness, they can do all of it themselves. That that would involve calling mcgahn, priebus, all of the people that gave him testimony to flush out whether or not it is an impeachable offense. But i think muellers thinking is but you dont need me. My evidence is presented to you. I have given this to you. So that we can inquire of it and i expect you to inquire of it and im disappointed in you if you do not inquire of it. But you dont need words out of my mouth. That is my surmise as to what he is thinking. Okay. I want to jump ahead with you on impeachment. Im curious of your thoughts. Lets play this forward. And the house is still divided among the nancy pelosi democrats who shes saying lets just wait and let it go through the courts versus jumping to impeachment proceedings. Either way, if it goes to impeachment proceedings, what would impeachment achieve . Well, an impeachment that is helpful for the country is one that would achieve some kind of National Consensus on whether a president should stay or leave. My concern and my concern all along is that the public is not ready, not enough of the public is ready for an impeachment inquiry for us to have anything but a partisan outcome and the last thing we need in this country is a more divided country. What is possible is that the democrats could make the case to the American People now that the president stonewalling is itself evidence of an impeachable offense. That the way in which this administration has dealt with absolutely constitutional questions that the congress is expected to ask shows an unwillingness to do his constitutional date doou duty going beyond the article two powers of the presidency but that is a complex argument to make. Not as exciting and visceral as the saturday night massacre which shifted folks behind impeachment in 1973. The democrats have not theyve been explaining it and talk about accountability, they dont talk about transparency and they are not being specific enough and precise enough about what they want to know. I think if they do that, the public may understand that they have a constitutional duty to keep pressing this administration. So you think the majority of the country as we know, the majority of the country is not in favor of this. Not in favor of it do you think it would shift because of this . What im saying is that the congress cant be walked over by the executive branch. I got you. Im thinking about the future. Not about trump, but future president s. If they learn from this you could just say no all of the time, that is a bad lesson. So i think a couple of things have to happen very quickly. One that congress has to use has to expedite Court Oversight of what is happening. Very fast. Number two, they should be very precise about what they want to know and number three, i disagree with michael there is something mr. Mueller can say and only he could say. He should testify about his discussions with bill barr and his expectations about what bill barr would do. He doesnt have to talk about the investigation. We need to hear that from him. And i think that is the exact political point that he doesnt want to engage in. Yep, yep. Michael and tim, thank you both very much. Thank you. 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Today lawmakers are getting briefed on the rising tensions between the United States and iran. This comes after weeks of demands for details on secretary and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. This is been happening this afternoon. Of course on the heels of cnn exclusive interview with iran foreign minister who said that iran will not talk to President Trump unless the u. S. Shows tehran respect. That is zarifs own word by honoring the commitments in the nuclear deal which the u. S. With drew from one year ago. We are not willing to talk to people who have broken their promises. Now having all of these military assets in a small waterway is in and of itself prone to accident, particularly when you have people who are interested in accidents. So extreme prudence is required and we believe that the United States is playing a very, very dangerous game. Kylie atwood is our Cnn National Security reporter and we now lawmakers including one we talked to last hour walked out of the meeting. Doesnt totally understand why the u. S. President is really there other than maybe maximum Pressure Campaign because of the iran nuclear deal. What happened in the briefing and did they laurin anythi di anything else. A democratic member of congress saying based on what he heard there was no need for the Carrier Strike force to be in the region. So the question is was pompeo and secretary of defense shanahan and dunn ford able to say that the administration is right and they needed to put forth this military mus call oar approach in the region, that they needed to draw down all nonemergency personnel from u. S. Missions in iraq and is President Trump drumming up the rhetoric saying it is the end of iran if they got into a fight with the u. S. Now also interestingly enough, even though weve heard from u. S. 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