Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello 201410

Million gone in a ball of fire. Take a look at this. Engines at 108 . Power nominate pal. That is an unmanned rocket exploding six seconds after liftoff in virginia. That rocket was supposed to go to the International Space station with thousands of pounds of supplies. Now an investigation is under way to figure out why this happened. Cnns tom foreman joins with us more. Good morning, tom. Reporter theres a lot of buzz about these refurbished russian rockets driving this. One of them failed during the test back in may so whether or not that has anything to do with this explosion, the Space Community is looking at them very closely today. We have liftoff. The first stage was seconds into a fourminute burn when the antares rocket stalled, fell backward and exploded. Ne nearly 250,000 pounds of thrust went high ware and people say the blast shook across the bay. Immediately from about five seconds in you just saw kind of a fireball. It wasnt you could tell immediately something was wrong. Reporter it also clearly shook virginiabased Orbital Sciences, the private contractor that built the rocket under a nearly 2 billion contract with nasa now needs answers. The investigation will include evaluating the debris that we will find around the launch pad. If you find anything that washes ashore in the local area or came down in a on your farm, definitely do not touch it. Reporter no one was hurt, but gone in a flash, 1,600 pounds of science experiments on everything from meteors to human blood flow. More than 1,600 pounds of hardware, computers, space walk equipment. And 1,400 pounds of food for the iss crew. That does not create an instant emergency, but it will put extra pressure on Upcoming Missions to reestablish the supply chain to those astronauts in orbit. And the explosion could create political pressure, too, in the continuing debate over how much space travel or should be put into the hands of private companies. Im getting word, carol, a lot of people at Orbital Sciences having a very tough day today because they know that this is a big, big setback to this whole idea of privatized space travel, and particularly for their company. They have to find an answer to this and they have to find it in short order even though nasa is saying they have complete faith in orbital right now, this is definitely a hurdle for this company to clear, carol. Who absorbs the cost of this accident, tom . Is it orbital or nasa . Well, i think its going to be absorbed by both of them. Orbital is watching its stock get into trouble so it absorbs it in an indirect way immediately. Theres some talk about that last night, it was not clear to me where that shakes out and who pays for what. The bottom line is the cost probably is not the bigger question, its the longterm costs that people will worry about. This is a 1. 8 billion contract that orbital has to deliver eight different deliveries to the iss. Theyve done three of them so far. The question is, does that get interrupted along the way and what does this do for future contracts . Any time something goes wrong in space flight, carol, you know its incredibly expensive and in this day in time it reignites the public debate on how that money is being spent. Tom foreman, many thanks, i appreciate it. Kaci hickox, the american nurse forced to undergo a mandatory quarantine in new jersey over the weekend after treating ebola patients abroad is pushing back again. Earlier today, hickox told Nbcs Matt Lauer she is refusing to follow orders to remain in quarantine for 21 days in her home state of maine. I dont plan on sticking to the gie the guidelines. I remain appall bid these policies that have been force upon me. Even though i am in perfectly good health, am feeling strong and have been this entire time completely system free. If f the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday morning, i will go to court to fight for my freedom. Since her return, hickox has showed no symptoms and has tested negative for the virus two times. Lets bring in dr. Amish and joey jackson. Welcome to both of you. Good morning, carol. Good morning. Joey, maine has not filed for a court order just yet but its likely to do that some time today. Do you think it will be successful . I think they could be. It comes down balancing individual liberties versus the rights of society as a whole. Now, theres a lot we dont know about this and theres been information and misinformation, but what we do know is 21 days apparently is that incubation period, this t doctor could speak to that issue. So even though she tested negatively, the issue becomes could she become positive at some later time. And if she is what danger that would pose to the public. And so its up to a judge to determine whether her individual liberties are violated but based on the fact shes asystematic now but could be system mat nick the future a judge could say, you know what . Abide by the rules, stay home mandatorily. Doctor, kaci hickox is obviously trying to prove a point here. Is she smart to the that . I cant advise her legally but i think shes right that shes not contagious to other people even if shes incubated ebola because the virus isnt spread until you have symptoms so she doesnt pose any risk to others when she was in new jersey, she doesnt pose risk to others in maine. What somehow should be having done to her the active monitoring where they measure her temperature and keep track of her symptoms. She doesnt need to be around quarantine order because shes not a risk. So doctor and joey stand by. On the phone we have stevan hieman, caskaci hickox lawyer. What do you expect to happen today . I guess the next step is up to maine. We had been attempting to work with them to try to find some kind of compromise here but that has not been possible. And i saw from their News Conference last night that they intend to try to seek an order. We have received no papers. Kaci has received no papers so at this point she is not under any restriction other than her own voluntary staying in the house today. Do you know what could happen if maine is successful . Were treading in areas that theres not a whole lot of case law and support other than there are two facts one is that society has a right to protect itself from legitimate issues of Public Health. But it cant do it based on what the Supreme Court calls fear and the doctor you just had on has said it all. He is not contagious, there is no basis. The only reason that there is this cry for quarantine is because the political side has decided that it would just be better if she stayed home and lost her civil rights so we all could feel more comfortable which is not supported by any medical evidence. There to s no mr. Hyman, i have joey jackson here itching to get in because i think he disagrees with you, frankly. I dont know who joey is. Hes a defense attorney and our cnn legal analyst. Okay, hello, joey. How are you mr. Himan. The whole issue behind this, and i get the politics of it. But i wouldnt say its an irrational fear. Theres a firm basis. The whole point to quarantine people is it takes 21 days for it to manifest itself and so therefore no, no. You quarantine even under the if you read the maine statute if theres probable cause to believe based on epidemiology an agent. Heres the point. If we wait for symptoms to manifest themselves, it defeats the whole point of a quarantine. The whole basis no it doesnt its the ensure the Public Health. This is the argument youre going to have in court with the attorney general im sure. Im going play judge, mr. Hyman respond to that. I mean, its all make believe. What they want to do is quarantine somebody who is asystematic and the fact is even if she became systematic and, god forbid that would happen, but if she did she could go to a hospital and there is no evidence, none, that during that period of time she is a risk to the public. There is there has been no evidence. Look at all the facts that happened with duncan who unfortunately died. Exactly. His family is asystematic and remains so. Well, i want to bring in another example of the politics versus science, right . Because kaci hickox isnt the only one facing this mandatory quarantine. Another american, ryan boy cois being quarantined in connecticut despite testing negative for the virus not once but twice. He wasnt even around anybody with ebola, he just happened to visit west africa, but he remains in isolation in his apartment with an armed guard outside the door. Listen to what he told anderson cooper. You cant lock somebody up because they might pose some kind of danger later. Its unfortunate in this country right now that the Public Health law is very vague in a lot of states and its just not clear what the government can and cant do. So mr. Hyman, this is sort of what youre talking about, right . Of course there is no evidence and the new england journal of medicine has a wonderful editorial on this that when you talk to doctors not politicians and not people who are just fearful because they would like kaci to stay home and be secluded from them there is no evidence of any medical risk to the society or the community. None. Mr. Hyman, as a quick avoid, heres the whole point and certainly your client deserves a boat load of respect and all the people who go and assist people in west africa and attempt to make people better, they shouldnt be penalized, but Public Health officials are at a cross roads. Should you wait until someone becomes systematic or should you quarantine them and act properly and appropriately in advance of that so you can protect the public in the event she has signs, there is no argument. Let me bring in dr. Adalja. She is getting tested. Its not like shes not doing anything. Of course. Shes willing to cooperate with the Health Officials to check her. So dr. Adalja, is that enough . Yes, that is enough. Thats why we have active monitoring. Shes having her temperature checked, her symptoms logged. If she were to become systematic she would be immediately isolated. This isnt like shes out there like typhoid mary spreading the disease. As soon as she became systematic, appropriate action will be taken. This is unwarranted and not supported by if t science. Doctor what if she took the test and exhibited symptoms after she came back from having exposure to the general public . Is she going to be tested and monitored hourly . Is she going to be tested by the minute . What if she doesnt exhibit any symptoms, she goes out and intermingles with the public, doctor, comes back and tests positive. What do we do that shes exposed herself to everyone and then theres a massive Public Health emergency. You can blame it on politics, you can blame it on overreaction but the issue is people need to be protected and to feel safe and if they dont its an issue. Mr. Hiyman, go ahead. Your statement is hysteria. It has no basis in fact. In fact, if you read the materials on this, you are the issue of contagion and i believe the doctor will be able to speak to this better than i can is that the minute you develop a fever doesnt mean youre contagious. It then becomes an issue according to the doctors. In fact, contagion doesnt occur until much later. Facts. Duncans family was not positive and he was with them while he was actually very sick. The same with the nurse. Let me interject because i always like to step back and take a breath and i want dr. Adalja to answer this. Because if you look at it, the only people who have come down with ebola in this country are Health Care Workers who were treating an ebola patient in the hospital. Right . So put it into perspective for us, doctor. Ebola is a deadly disease, a scary disease, but its not very contagious. Only through blood and bodily fluids. So unless they have a fever, having vomiting or diarrhea, they cant give it to somebody else. I think people are losing that in this debate. This is not a very can the ages you disease and Health Care Workers were taking care of a sick patient who was on a mechanical ventilator, had continuous dialysis, a lot of body fluid exposure. Thats different than casual exposures you might be talking about with these asystematic individuals. They dont pose a risk. This isnt typhoid mary and people need to put this into proper context. Doctor, if i can ask a question, what if somebody goes out and based upon them not feeling well they happen to vomit in a public bathroom or a public place or on a subway or in on the bus or Public Transportation system. I dont want to feed into hysteria, i just want to get to the core issue of whether the politicians, as mr. Hyman is referring to, are taking reasonable steps and measures to protect the public and thats the concern. Carol brought up the issue that, yes, medical health professi professionals have come down with the symptoms based upon them being vomited on but thats a probability, that could happen, could it not . There is cdc guidance that accords Different Levels of restrictions on a persons activity. We would ply that to an individual case. Is she someone that should not be on Public Transportation . Is she someone that should be in private vehicles . There are different gradations that the cdc recommends. Because you cant do a blanket type of quarantine because youre restricting peoples liberty and unless they show a material threat to others and thiss proven, you shouldnt really bo b doing this kind of but youre doing it for the good of the public and the publics view has to be balanced against the individuals right to freedom. And when youre potentially contaminating a number of people who could then contaminate others, it becomes a bigger problem. I know what mr. Hyman is going to say, kaci hickox is not contagious, she doesnt have ebola, she doesnt tested positive for ebola, she doesnt have a fever. Shes saying take my temperature, ill do it twice a day but im not sick, why should you confine me in my home . The voice of reason, carol. I dont like hysteria, i like facts. Mr. Hyman, how a is kaci hickox willing to take this . Ki kaci is her own boss in this. She has spoken out and brought this issue front and center. She is prepared to take it as far as it has to go. Shes hoping that common sense and reason will prevail and that this does not have to become the hysteria of youve got to stay in your house. Its absurd that she has to be quarantined in her house that somebody is scared that maybe someday she may become sick. Heres whats happening, and im going to pose this to the doctor. I was reading the maine newspaper this is morning, people are afraid to go to the hospital because Health Care Workers are coming down with ebola. People are afraid to get on airplanes because theres a chance you could catch ebola flying with someone who was infected. So there is a sense of sort of fear out there thats probably unnecessary. Definitely. The country in a panic and theyve forgotten all of the Science Behind ebola. They are afraid of catching it and you cant get it through casual contact. Were doing harm when you feed into this panic because people arent going to get it on airplaunless youre directly sit next to someone who vomits on you. Its not like the cold or influenza or measles or tuberculosis. We have bigger problems in the Infectious Disease world to worry about than ebola. We have an influenza season about to start and thousands of americans are about to die from that but theyre not getting flu shots. There has to be a recalibration of this threat analysis going on by the u. S. Public and we have to dampen this panic because its not serving any good purpose and its making everybodys job harder because Public Health has to respond to this when someone sneezes on an airplane and they quarantine the whole airplane. This detracts actual resources of stopping the outbreak at its source in west africa. I just got a statement from maines governor, paula pa le p. He says we hope the Health Care Worker would voluntarily comply with these protocols but this individual has stated publicly she will not abide by the protocols. We are very concerned about her safety and the health and that of the community. Were exploring all of our options for protecting the health and wellbeing of the Health Care Worker. Anyone who comes into contact with her, the Fort Kent Community and all of maine. While we certainly respect the rights of one individual, we must be vigilant in protecting 1. 3 million mainers as well as anyone who visits our great state. So mr. Hyman, any reaction to that statement . Thats a wonderful statement. I wish them well in protecting. He didnt say that she has to stay in her house. We are happy to cooperate with maine officials that will respect kacis rights as a citizen and one who did noble or, as the president called it, gods work and is not sick to go about her life in some fashion, to have her checked and monitored to make sure she is not ill and if there is any indication she gets immediately hospitalized and taken care of she will comply with what the rational and scientific medical ploet ko protocols are. And if the governor wants assurance with that, he has it, he wants her to work with the Public Health officials i have spoken to, we will. But simply staying she has to stay in her house, thats unacceptable. Thank you so much for joining me steven hyman, dr. Amesh adalja and joey jackson. Thank you, good luck, mr. Hyman. To your company, your customers, and all your data. Cyberedge from aig is more than insurance. Its Proactive Technology and specialists to help keep you ahead of the curve. Claims specialists and advisors to protect you as cyber risks evolve. Cyberedge to help you change the internet of risk into the internet of opportunity. Theyve earned in life theres a higher standard of home care. Brightstar care. From care teams led by registered nurses to unmatched Care Expertise brightstar care offers home care you can trust, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Your loved one deserves care thats nothing less than extraordinary because theyve earned it. For a complimentary inhome assessment, call brightstar care today at 8666210228 within we may now know why north International Space<\/a> station with thousands of pounds of supplies. Now an investigation is under way to figure out why this happened. Cnns tom foreman joins with us more. Good morning, tom. Reporter theres a lot of buzz about these refurbished russian rockets driving this. One of them failed during the test back in may so whether or not that has anything to do with this explosion, the Space Community<\/a> is looking at them very closely today. We have liftoff. The first stage was seconds into a fourminute burn when the antares rocket stalled, fell backward and exploded. Ne nearly 250,000 pounds of thrust went high ware and people say the blast shook across the bay. Immediately from about five seconds in you just saw kind of a fireball. It wasnt you could tell immediately something was wrong. Reporter it also clearly shook virginiabased Orbital Sciences<\/a>, the private contractor that built the rocket under a nearly 2 billion contract with nasa now needs answers. The investigation will include evaluating the debris that we will find around the launch pad. If you find anything that washes ashore in the local area or came down in a on your farm, definitely do not touch it. Reporter no one was hurt, but gone in a flash, 1,600 pounds of science experiments on everything from meteors to human blood flow. More than 1,600 pounds of hardware, computers, space walk equipment. And 1,400 pounds of food for the iss crew. That does not create an instant emergency, but it will put extra pressure on Upcoming Missions<\/a> to reestablish the supply chain to those astronauts in orbit. And the explosion could create political pressure, too, in the continuing debate over how much space travel or should be put into the hands of private companies. Im getting word, carol, a lot of people at Orbital Sciences<\/a> having a very tough day today because they know that this is a big, big setback to this whole idea of privatized space travel, and particularly for their company. They have to find an answer to this and they have to find it in short order even though nasa is saying they have complete faith in orbital right now, this is definitely a hurdle for this company to clear, carol. Who absorbs the cost of this accident, tom . Is it orbital or nasa . Well, i think its going to be absorbed by both of them. Orbital is watching its stock get into trouble so it absorbs it in an indirect way immediately. Theres some talk about that last night, it was not clear to me where that shakes out and who pays for what. The bottom line is the cost probably is not the bigger question, its the longterm costs that people will worry about. This is a 1. 8 billion contract that orbital has to deliver eight different deliveries to the iss. Theyve done three of them so far. The question is, does that get interrupted along the way and what does this do for future contracts . Any time something goes wrong in space flight, carol, you know its incredibly expensive and in this day in time it reignites the public debate on how that money is being spent. Tom foreman, many thanks, i appreciate it. Kaci hickox, the american nurse forced to undergo a mandatory quarantine in new jersey over the weekend after treating ebola patients abroad is pushing back again. Earlier today, hickox told Nbcs Matt Lauer<\/a> she is refusing to follow orders to remain in quarantine for 21 days in her home state of maine. I dont plan on sticking to the gie the guidelines. I remain appall bid these policies that have been force upon me. Even though i am in perfectly good health, am feeling strong and have been this entire time completely system free. If f the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday morning, i will go to court to fight for my freedom. Since her return, hickox has showed no symptoms and has tested negative for the virus two times. Lets bring in dr. Amish and joey jackson. Welcome to both of you. Good morning, carol. Good morning. Joey, maine has not filed for a court order just yet but its likely to do that some time today. Do you think it will be successful . I think they could be. It comes down balancing individual liberties versus the rights of society as a whole. Now, theres a lot we dont know about this and theres been information and misinformation, but what we do know is 21 days apparently is that incubation period, this t doctor could speak to that issue. So even though she tested negatively, the issue becomes could she become positive at some later time. And if she is what danger that would pose to the public. And so its up to a judge to determine whether her individual liberties are violated but based on the fact shes asystematic now but could be system mat nick the future a judge could say, you know what . Abide by the rules, stay home mandatorily. Doctor, kaci hickox is obviously trying to prove a point here. Is she smart to the that . I cant advise her legally but i think shes right that shes not contagious to other people even if shes incubated ebola because the virus isnt spread until you have symptoms so she doesnt pose any risk to others when she was in new jersey, she doesnt pose risk to others in maine. What somehow should be having done to her the active monitoring where they measure her temperature and keep track of her symptoms. She doesnt need to be around quarantine order because shes not a risk. So doctor and joey stand by. On the phone we have stevan hieman, caskaci hickox lawyer. What do you expect to happen today . I guess the next step is up to maine. We had been attempting to work with them to try to find some kind of compromise here but that has not been possible. And i saw from their News Conference<\/a> last night that they intend to try to seek an order. We have received no papers. Kaci has received no papers so at this point she is not under any restriction other than her own voluntary staying in the house today. Do you know what could happen if maine is successful . Were treading in areas that theres not a whole lot of case law and support other than there are two facts one is that society has a right to protect itself from legitimate issues of Public Health<\/a>. But it cant do it based on what the Supreme Court<\/a> calls fear and the doctor you just had on has said it all. He is not contagious, there is no basis. The only reason that there is this cry for quarantine is because the political side has decided that it would just be better if she stayed home and lost her civil rights so we all could feel more comfortable which is not supported by any medical evidence. There to s no mr. Hyman, i have joey jackson here itching to get in because i think he disagrees with you, frankly. I dont know who joey is. Hes a defense attorney and our cnn legal analyst. Okay, hello, joey. How are you mr. Himan. The whole issue behind this, and i get the politics of it. But i wouldnt say its an irrational fear. Theres a firm basis. The whole point to quarantine people is it takes 21 days for it to manifest itself and so therefore no, no. You quarantine even under the if you read the maine statute if theres probable cause to believe based on epidemiology an agent. Heres the point. If we wait for symptoms to manifest themselves, it defeats the whole point of a quarantine. The whole basis no it doesnt its the ensure the Public Health<\/a>. This is the argument youre going to have in court with the attorney general im sure. Im going play judge, mr. Hyman respond to that. I mean, its all make believe. What they want to do is quarantine somebody who is asystematic and the fact is even if she became systematic and, god forbid that would happen, but if she did she could go to a hospital and there is no evidence, none, that during that period of time she is a risk to the public. There is there has been no evidence. Look at all the facts that happened with duncan who unfortunately died. Exactly. His family is asystematic and remains so. Well, i want to bring in another example of the politics versus science, right . Because kaci hickox isnt the only one facing this mandatory quarantine. Another american, ryan boy cois being quarantined in connecticut despite testing negative for the virus not once but twice. He wasnt even around anybody with ebola, he just happened to visit west africa, but he remains in isolation in his apartment with an armed guard outside the door. Listen to what he told anderson cooper. You cant lock somebody up because they might pose some kind of danger later. Its unfortunate in this country right now that the Public Health<\/a> law is very vague in a lot of states and its just not clear what the government can and cant do. So mr. Hyman, this is sort of what youre talking about, right . Of course there is no evidence and the new england journal of medicine has a wonderful editorial on this that when you talk to doctors not politicians and not people who are just fearful because they would like kaci to stay home and be secluded from them there is no evidence of any medical risk to the society or the community. None. Mr. Hyman, as a quick avoid, heres the whole point and certainly your client deserves a boat load of respect and all the people who go and assist people in west africa and attempt to make people better, they shouldnt be penalized, but Public Health<\/a> officials are at a cross roads. Should you wait until someone becomes systematic or should you quarantine them and act properly and appropriately in advance of that so you can protect the public in the event she has signs, there is no argument. Let me bring in dr. Adalja. She is getting tested. Its not like shes not doing anything. Of course. Shes willing to cooperate with the Health Officials<\/a> to check her. So dr. Adalja, is that enough . Yes, that is enough. Thats why we have active monitoring. Shes having her temperature checked, her symptoms logged. If she were to become systematic she would be immediately isolated. This isnt like shes out there like typhoid mary spreading the disease. As soon as she became systematic, appropriate action will be taken. This is unwarranted and not supported by if t science. Doctor what if she took the test and exhibited symptoms after she came back from having exposure to the general public . Is she going to be tested and monitored hourly . Is she going to be tested by the minute . What if she doesnt exhibit any symptoms, she goes out and intermingles with the public, doctor, comes back and tests positive. What do we do that shes exposed herself to everyone and then theres a massive Public Health<\/a> emergency. You can blame it on politics, you can blame it on overreaction but the issue is people need to be protected and to feel safe and if they dont its an issue. Mr. Hiyman, go ahead. Your statement is hysteria. It has no basis in fact. In fact, if you read the materials on this, you are the issue of contagion and i believe the doctor will be able to speak to this better than i can is that the minute you develop a fever doesnt mean youre contagious. It then becomes an issue according to the doctors. In fact, contagion doesnt occur until much later. Facts. Duncans family was not positive and he was with them while he was actually very sick. The same with the nurse. Let me interject because i always like to step back and take a breath and i want dr. Adalja to answer this. Because if you look at it, the only people who have come down with ebola in this country are Health Care Workers<\/a> who were treating an ebola patient in the hospital. Right . So put it into perspective for us, doctor. Ebola is a deadly disease, a scary disease, but its not very contagious. Only through blood and bodily fluids. So unless they have a fever, having vomiting or diarrhea, they cant give it to somebody else. I think people are losing that in this debate. This is not a very can the ages you disease and Health Care Workers<\/a> were taking care of a sick patient who was on a mechanical ventilator, had continuous dialysis, a lot of body fluid exposure. Thats different than casual exposures you might be talking about with these asystematic individuals. They dont pose a risk. This isnt typhoid mary and people need to put this into proper context. Doctor, if i can ask a question, what if somebody goes out and based upon them not feeling well they happen to vomit in a public bathroom or a public place or on a subway or in on the bus or Public Transportation<\/a> system. I dont want to feed into hysteria, i just want to get to the core issue of whether the politicians, as mr. Hyman is referring to, are taking reasonable steps and measures to protect the public and thats the concern. Carol brought up the issue that, yes, medical health professi professionals have come down with the symptoms based upon them being vomited on but thats a probability, that could happen, could it not . There is cdc guidance that accords Different Levels<\/a> of restrictions on a persons activity. We would ply that to an individual case. Is she someone that should not be on Public Transportation<\/a> . Is she someone that should be in private vehicles . There are different gradations that the cdc recommends. Because you cant do a blanket type of quarantine because youre restricting peoples liberty and unless they show a material threat to others and thiss proven, you shouldnt really bo b doing this kind of but youre doing it for the good of the public and the publics view has to be balanced against the individuals right to freedom. And when youre potentially contaminating a number of people who could then contaminate others, it becomes a bigger problem. I know what mr. Hyman is going to say, kaci hickox is not contagious, she doesnt have ebola, she doesnt tested positive for ebola, she doesnt have a fever. Shes saying take my temperature, ill do it twice a day but im not sick, why should you confine me in my home . The voice of reason, carol. I dont like hysteria, i like facts. Mr. Hyman, how a is kaci hickox willing to take this . Ki kaci is her own boss in this. She has spoken out and brought this issue front and center. She is prepared to take it as far as it has to go. Shes hoping that common sense and reason will prevail and that this does not have to become the hysteria of youve got to stay in your house. Its absurd that she has to be quarantined in her house that somebody is scared that maybe someday she may become sick. Heres whats happening, and im going to pose this to the doctor. I was reading the maine newspaper this is morning, people are afraid to go to the hospital because Health Care Workers<\/a> are coming down with ebola. People are afraid to get on airplanes because theres a chance you could catch ebola flying with someone who was infected. So there is a sense of sort of fear out there thats probably unnecessary. Definitely. The country in a panic and theyve forgotten all of the Science Behind<\/a> ebola. They are afraid of catching it and you cant get it through casual contact. Were doing harm when you feed into this panic because people arent going to get it on airplaunless youre directly sit next to someone who vomits on you. Its not like the cold or influenza or measles or tuberculosis. We have bigger problems in the Infectious Disease<\/a> world to worry about than ebola. We have an influenza season about to start and thousands of americans are about to die from that but theyre not getting flu shots. There has to be a recalibration of this threat analysis going on by the u. S. Public and we have to dampen this panic because its not serving any good purpose and its making everybodys job harder because Public Health<\/a> has to respond to this when someone sneezes on an airplane and they quarantine the whole airplane. This detracts actual resources of stopping the outbreak at its source in west africa. I just got a statement from maines governor, paula pa le p. He says we hope the Health Care Worker<\/a> would voluntarily comply with these protocols but this individual has stated publicly she will not abide by the protocols. We are very concerned about her safety and the health and that of the community. Were exploring all of our options for protecting the health and wellbeing of the Health Care Worker<\/a>. Anyone who comes into contact with her, the Fort Kent Community<\/a> and all of maine. While we certainly respect the rights of one individual, we must be vigilant in protecting 1. 3 million mainers as well as anyone who visits our great state. So mr. Hyman, any reaction to that statement . Thats a wonderful statement. I wish them well in protecting. He didnt say that she has to stay in her house. We are happy to cooperate with maine officials that will respect kacis rights as a citizen and one who did noble or, as the president called it, gods work and is not sick to go about her life in some fashion, to have her checked and monitored to make sure she is not ill and if there is any indication she gets immediately hospitalized and taken care of she will comply with what the rational and scientific medical ploet ko protocols are. And if the governor wants assurance with that, he has it, he wants her to work with the Public Health<\/a> officials i have spoken to, we will. But simply staying she has to stay in her house, thats unacceptable. Thank you so much for joining me steven hyman, dr. Amesh adalja and joey jackson. Thank you, good luck, mr. Hyman. To your company, your customers, and all your data. Cyberedge from aig is more than insurance. Its Proactive Technology<\/a> and specialists to help keep you ahead of the curve. Claims specialists and advisors to protect you as cyber risks evolve. Cyberedge to help you change the internet of risk into the internet of opportunity. Theyve earned in life theres a higher standard of home care. Brightstar care. From care teams led by registered nurses to unmatched Care Expertise<\/a> brightstar care offers home care you can trust, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Your loved one deserves care thats nothing less than extraordinary because theyve earned it. For a complimentary inhome assessment, call brightstar care today at 8666210228 within we may now know why north Korean Leader<\/a> kim jongun vanished for six weeks. He was seen limping back in september and disappeared until earlier this month. A south korean lawmaker tells cnn the north korean lawmaker had a cyst removed from his right ankle and european experts handled the surgery. Kim is coming back into the spotlight as a top u. N. Official calls for north korea to face the International Criminal<\/a> court on charges of crimes against humanity even while the country is on a sudden Charm Offensive<\/a>. Cnns Paula Hancocks<\/a> is covering it all for us. Pyongyangs Charm Offensive<\/a> showing no signs of slowing down. The u. S. Rap tour for human rights in north korea said he had a surprise meeting with north korean officials this week and they may be willing to invite human rights investigators into the country. He gave his annual report on the rights situation tuesday saying he welcomes the signs of increased engagement by north korea, but attention must not be diverted from holding those who commit human rights abuses accountable. The u. N. Submitted a commission of inquiry in march, accusing pyongyang of murder, torture, slavery, sexual violence, and mass starvation. The report says some abuses, including those committed in prison camps, amount to crimes against humanity. North koreas ambassador the u. N. Rejected the reports findings saying there are no such violations in the country. Pyongyang has been sending officials all over the world recently trying to soften its image and mitigate the impact of this report, but he says it should still be referred to the Security Council<\/a> and the country referred to the International Criminal<\/a> court. Meanwhile, south koreas Intelligence Agency<\/a> has said they believe kim jongun had a cyst removed from his left ankle recently, explaining why he disappeared for five weeks and why he reappeared with a cane. The agency says it also believes that theres an ongoing political purge in pyongyang and that ten Party Members<\/a> have recently been executed by firing squad. The agency believes that their crimes ranged from corruption to womens issues to something as seemingly innocuous as watching south korean soap operas. Paula hancocks, cnn, seoul. Still to come in the newsroom, a slow river of lava marching toward neighborhoods on hawaiis big island. It could swallow a dozen homes in the next day and no one can stop it. Ill talk to a geophysicist about this next. I can. Order safety goggles. Play music for seedlings. Post science fair projects. Schedule guinea pig feedings. Video chemical reactions. Take pics of mr. Bones. Time the next launch. Calm down principal jones. 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Joining me now Peter Cervelli<\/a> from the u. S. G. S. Science center. I have this picture of pompeii in my mind where the volcano will violently blow and the whole town will be buried under ash. Is that possible . Its extremely unlikely for this particular volcano. Its much more of a what we call an effusive lava emitter, sort of slow lava flows, they can certainly cause problems to property but its very rare, almost unheard of, for somebody to get killed of by it. Normally the lava flows into the ocean from this volcano but it changed direction. Can you explain that . Sure, the place where the lava is coming out of the ground is a vent or a cone called puoo. So for most of this eruption that began in 1983 the flows have gone south, as you point out. And puaoo is at the rest of a ridge so if anything comes out the the south it all goes to the south. But very rarely something pops out to the north and then it cant get back over the ridge so it has to go wherever the downhill direction is and thats where its going now. Is there any way to stop it . Not really, no. Theres always a chance that it will stop naturally. Flows take different paths and they stop and they start. But in terms of human intervention, you might be able to divert it but then youre just making it somebody elses problem. I would imagine its hard to imagine how hot this lava is. Yeah, it is. I can certainly imagine it because ive been up quite close to it and had my hairs on my eyebrows burned off. Oh, my gosh so as a scientist, as youre looking at this, y r you learning anything . Well, we are. Were studying the way the lava progresses. You know, its going in fits and starts. And were really trying to understand how lava flows work. So we can better forecast how quickly theyre going to move and give better dates about when lava might affect human infrastructure. That would be very helpful. Peter cervelli, thank you so much for being with me. I appreciate it. Youre welcome. Still to come in the newsroom, should nasa get back into the spacecraft Building Business<\/a> as a 200 million rocket built by a private company blows up . Well talk about that next. On my journey across america, ive learned that when you ask someone in texas if they want big savings on Car Insurance<\/a>, its a bit like asking if they want a big hat. scuse me. Or a big steak. Or big hair. I think we have our answer. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance<\/a>. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. Its no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. And during the big tire event, get up to 140 in mailin rebates on four select tires. A woman who loves to share her passions. 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Lets talk about private Companies Making<\/a> these rockets and in charge of sending supplies in one day astronauts to the International Space<\/a> station. Big responsibility. Big responsibility. So what happened with orbital. Well, what people dont realize, actually, is that nasa has worked with the private sector since the genesis of the space agency. Actually, boeing is the main contractor on the International Space<\/a> station. So this reliance on the private sector by nasa is nothing new. And were not going to see that relationship change just as a result of an accident like this. But orbital has to be sitting back today and just i mean, they have to be devastated. Of course. Not just financially, right . No, this is certain ly tarnishing their reputation. Spacex has flown their missions to the International Space<\/a> station. This was certainly a highprofile accident. Luckily it was unmanned, simply cargo, yes, 5,000 pounds of it but no one was injured. Well, i think its interesting that orbital depends on Old Technology<\/a> to build its rockets. Spacex is the other company that nasa is under contract with and spacex will be responsible for sending astronauts into space. Along with bowing. So why the other bittal using the Old Technology<\/a>. Why wouldnt it say wow, this is our chance to show what we can do . Its interesting. Theres a space trash talk that happens within the Aerospace Industry<\/a> and back in 2012 elon musk referred to the other bittal science system as a joke. Now, he tweeted out yesterday his condolences for the company so certainly no ones rooting for anybody to have an explosion. The industry wins when Everybody Wins<\/a> but its a competitive spirit out there to say the leas least. What will happen with orbital. This is the third of eight missions that nasa has contracted with them to run back and forth. There are stipulations for accidents like this to occur. Theres no reason to believe this that this contract is in jeopardy as a result of this accident and boeing and spacex isnt in jeopardy. Huge contract. Major dollars. Rachel crane, thank you so much. Less than 12 hours after that failed launch in virginia, a russian cargo ship left kazakhstan headed for the International Space<\/a> station. It will deliver supplies and cargo to the crew already in space. This launch was scheduled before yesterdays explosion and, as you can see, there it goes. It went off without a hitch. Still to come in the newsroom, prices at the pump dropping. Under 3 a gallon in many states. How low can those prices go. Cnns Christine Romans<\/a> is at a gas station in new jersey to tell us. 75,000 gas stations a i dl s this country has three bucks or below. Im at one of them and ill tell you how long this will last right after the break. Youre driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. 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Thats what a gallon of regular is here where i am. As i told you before the break, twothirds of the gas stations across the country are having 3 or below gas. Thats expected to continue. Prices are going down, down, down more than 60 cents and its likely to continue. Heres why. Oil prices plummet, down 25 from the recent peak in june. Why . Demand is slowing in china and the United States<\/a> is producing a whole lot of oil. Its good news for your personal economy. First, gasoline prices. The National Average<\/a> down more than 30 cents in the past month, the lowest level since december, 2010, according to aaa. Several states have averages below 3 that means Everyday Americans<\/a> are spending more than 100 million less on gas than they did this time last year. Expect to see even lower prices across the country in coming weeks. Second, heating your home. This winter forecast to be warmer than last year. Couple that with the drop in commodities like heating oil and the Energy Department<\/a> predicts nearly everyone will be getting a break on their heating bill, including about half the country that uses natural gas. The big drop in Oil Prices May<\/a> save you cash on gas and heat but dont expect to see cheaper flights. Airlines know that prices could rebound at any moment, so theyll use cheap prices to lock in cheap fuel for the future and boost their profits. Those savings dont get passed on to you. But on balance, oils plunge is a good thing. Consumers save on energy and put that money to work elsewhere and that boosts the economy. Citigroup estimates that if crude prices fall to 80 a barrel it would add 660 billion to the Global Economy<\/a> every year. Carol, these prices have fallen so quickly, i mean, people have another ten bucks in their pocket now compared with earlier this summer when theyre filling up. Ten bucks every time you fill up if you have a 15gallon tank. That is real money and it feels like a little bit of a tax cut. We dont know how long it will last, we dont know if it will help people spend more money on other things but its a break, at least for now. Most economists, most experts say they expect theyre assuming these prices will remain like this in the next year. I hope so. Christine romans live from new jersey this morning, thank you. Still to come in the newsroom, you know its never polite to ask someone if theyve got a baby bump. But this lion necessary seems to be sporting extra padding. If only she could spill the beans to us. [ female announcer ] nervous whitening will damage your teeth . Introducing new listerine\u00ae healthy white\u2122. It not only safely whitens teeth, but also restores enamel. Lose the nerves, and get a healthier, whiter smile that youll love. Listerine\u00ae healthy white\u2122. Power to your mouth\u2122 listerine\u00ae healthy white\u2122. 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Spending decisions about our education dollars should be made by parents and teachers, not by politicians. Tell Tom Torlakson<\/a> to keep fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. For week now, ebola has been a hot topic in the headlines. From changing cdc guidelines to mandatory quarantines, the whole nation seems to be on edge. So its no surprise ebola has become the butt of jokes among latenight laughs. As of this morning, both amber vinson and nina pham, the two texas nurses who had contracted ebola, are free of the virus and out of the hospital. [ cheers and applause ] great news. Great news. They plan to spend the rest of their lives telling everyone yes, im sure. [ laughter ] im sure. Well, thats great. Im glad youre out. Great to see you. I saw Chris Christie<\/a> has not tweeted about anything except ebola since last thursday. [ laughter ] the only thing hes tweeting about. Nothing else but ebola. Just ebola. Thats all he tweets about is ebola. He has people in new jersey so scared they actually want him to close the George Washington<\/a> bridge. Its like dont let anyone in or out. You can feel the tension in the city, serve much more cautious than usual. Riding the subway to work today i mean, there was [ laughter ] there was nobody having sex. [ laughter ] comedians arent the only one poking fun at the virus. The twitter hashtag ebola jokes has gone viral. If you think its that bad, at least its not the sexy ebola containment suit halloween costume. Yes, i hate to say this, but, yes, thats a real costume. Lets talk about something else, shall we . A lion necessary at the cincinnati zoo is causing quite the sensation because she may be expecting a bundle of join. But as Cnns Jeanne Moos<\/a> reports, not even her zoo keepers know for sure. Reporter its usually easy to tell when a human celebrity is pregnant. Everyone is looking down at their belly or theyre rest ago telltale hand about it. But what about this belly . Does that look like a baby bump to you. We hope. Reporter at the cincinnati zoo their lioness imani is getting tabloid views. We can see a slight baby bump. Is that a baby bump i see . I am not pregnant. [ laughter ] but i have had three kids and there is a bump. Bumps can be deceiving, especially when the prospective mom stays mum. At the cincinnati zoo, theyre asking visitors, is she or isnt she . Fans disagree. Awesome, bump all the way versus bump . Where . Imani has gained 26 pounds in the past three and a half months, her urine tests came back positive. Who knows if shes told the possible baby daddy, john. Theyve mated quite a few times. On his twitter account it says paws crossed. Or could the lion be faking it as a giant panda allegedly did a couple of months ago at a Breeding Research<\/a> center in china. This panda was thought to be expecting. It turns out what she was expecting was more food. They call it a pseudopregnancy. The panda behaves in a way it knows from experience will get it better treatment. When i do a certain thing, i get more of what i really like and in a pandas case that would be a lot of its favorite type of bamboo. Reporter the u. S. Fish and Wildlife Service<\/a> just propose dead clarg lions to be a threatened species which makes the idea of cubs extra nice. Here are imanis before, screen left, and after pictures. So when are we going to know if the baby bump is actually babies or just a bump . We wont know for sure until the babies are on the ground, we theme will happen in the next month. Reporter at least imani isnt hiding her weight gain. Mariah carey is a house i think hello kitty was hiding a little somethingsomething. Say hello to this kitty. Shes not letting the cat out of the bag until the cats are actually out of the bag. We hope. Reporter jeanne moos, cnn, new york. Thank you so much for joining me today. 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