Turns to recovery. The search embraces a dual mission both equally important, respectfully recovering the bodies of the passengers and crew and retrieving the wresage to explain what too many it had flight. Cnns Paula Hancocks boarded a boat with local civilians who desperately wanted to help in the search efforts. It was a little choppy but the visibility was quite significant. There was only a little rain nothing to talk about so visibility would have been good as well from the air and clearly as you can see the aircraft did spot parts of the debris. So it was the weather did hold and that was conducive to the searchandrescue operations certainly. As soon as we did hear the reports that in fact, the location had been identified, the fishing boat we were on turned around and came back to harbor. It was just a local fishing boat who had offered to help just showing the community here wanting to be part of this and wanting to do everything that they could. As you can imagine, the mood coming back to the harbor was very somber. These fishermen were not only trying to help be the searchandrescue operation but they are fellow indonesians and most of these passengers and crew on board this flight were indonesian as well. One man who was part of the Fisheries Ministry he was on board to try and look for some of the debris said he was extremely sad, he was relieved that it had been found but very sad that there was no sign of survivors. Paula hancocks reporting. Lets head to the weathercenter and chad myers. Hes going to describe the part of the sea where the plane went down. Take it away chad. Very shallow, carol, which is good for recovery because you dont have to get down there with an rov at 15,000 feet like we think mh370 is in at this point in time. But the debris is to now what we call the eastsoutheast of where the last spotted plane was on the radar. People are asking why did that happen. Well, the wind has been blowing in that direction for a long time. Even at 35 Miles Per Hour at times but also the current is moving that way as well. Heres what happened. Ill back you up 24 hours. This is when they found the debris. Pretty clear skies. I know it looks cloudy here but this is not thick cloud cover, the orange and the red, thats the thick cloud cover. Now im going to push you ahead to just about the exact same time 48 hours later, that the plane was lost. Storms popped up and that exact same time they do this every single morning over this warm water, over this area here called the java sea. All the way around an intertropical convergence zone showers pop up in the americaning. I know we think in america the storms pop up in the afternoon and the heat. It works the opposite way when you separate the atmosphere. This is what were seeing right now. A couple storms in the search area but still pretty good conditions now, night fall will be harder for the planes to see anything. This will mainly be a ship operation at this point. So lets drill down now on google earth and show you whats going on here. About 125 miles from really the closest airport and the water is somewhere between 100 and 140 feet deep. I say that because if the plane actually the body of the plane, the rest of the plane that didnt float is down here in slightly deeper water, it flowed floated, the wind pushed it into shallower water so we dont know if its in the 140 or the 100foot area. This is good news although this is also an area where the water is kind of turbid. All the washoff from the land can come in here and make the water slightly muddy. We do have reports back out here toward the south, probably the southeast, maybe 100 miles, there are some dive sites. Those dive sites, obviously, indicate the water can be clear at least at times. Well keep watching it. The water temperature is warm but we just hope that survivors in the water or in life rafts but for right now none of that has been found. Carol . No it hasnt. Chad myers, thanks so much. International assistance is under way. A u. S. Destroyer has arrived at the java sea helping search and Recovery Efforts. Crews aboard the uss sampson are working with thesian authorities to provide any assistance needed. Rene marsh is here with that part of the story. Reporter we just learned from the pentagon that a second u. S. Ship has been dispatched towards the region. Were talking about uss fort worth. You are looking at images of the ship. We know it usually carries a helicopter on board. It is a combat ship. However, this helicopter on board will be very useful as they continue to recover wreckage off of the surface of the ocean. Also dispatched and already in place is uss sampson. We do know it usually carries two helicopters so we believe that that would also help in the effort of recovering wreckage off of the surface. However, the pentagon confirming today that at this point the u. S. Contribution is what youre seeing right now, those two ships. But we are not ruling out that it could expand once the search goes under water. Take a listen. We have the destroyer the uss sampson. Shes on station now as of this morning and she will be prepared to assist in any surface Recovery Efforts going on right now, the debris field and that kind of thing. One of the things you learn in an operation like this is the need for good communication and coordination with your partners and to make sure Everybody Knows where they fit into the scheme of things. We are very much willing and able to support. We know were not in the lead on this. Well work through the state department and through the embassies in the region to provide the support they need. We want to help and we dont want to hinder any efforts at all but you learn the importance of everybody bringing to this effort what theyre capable of and every country, every nation that participates in this you know has unique capabilities and, again, we want to focus on those we can provide that might be of help. All right. So again we believe or we could see in the coming days that the u. S. Contribution will expand even more once the search goes underwater. We know indonesia has officially asked the United States for sonar equipment. We just heard chad talk about the heavier parts of the aircraft sitting on the ocean floor. That sonar equipment will be very helpful in trying to find the heavier parts of the aircraft so that they can remove it. Also the black boxes. That is so critical here in moving forward in this investigation because the black boxes are going to have lots of information, lots of answers to the questions that we have at this point. We know that the u. S. Has whats called the pinger locator, we talked about that a lot during mh370. Essentially that piece of equipment is put down into the water so they can listen for that pinging sound. Remember only 30 days roughly, before the pinging sound from the black boxes stops, carol. Rene marsh reporting live from washington. Thanks so much. Airasias ceo was quick to reach out to the families. Tony fernandes tweeting my heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in 8501. On behalf of airasia my condolences to all. Lets those the needian city of surabaya where the flight originated and where distraught family members have been huddling these last agonizing days. Cnns senior producer david molko is there with more. Hi david. Reporter good evening from here in surabaya, the Crisis Center at the airport. Earlier this is where families of the 162 people on board that flight passengers and crew came to hear the news that it was very likely that their loved ones would not be coming home. Carol, tonight this is fundamentally a country in mourning. This is a human tragedy, the country of indonesia has not seen this in some time. And you talk to family members here we just spoke to a couple they had four family members on board, including two grandchildren traveling for holiday to singapore and now theyre hearing with almost certainty that their relatives will not be coming home and that they will not see them again. Its interesting, though. While they are losing hope there is still some hope. The couple was telling me look theres still we believe that theres still a chance. Theres a 5 chance that at least one of our family members might have survived. Carol . Where are the family members waiting . Well carol, theres about 80 of the families here 80 of the passengers on board were fro surabaya itself this city of three Million People in east java. The others from various parts of indonesia and outside indonesia so some of them have gone home. As i mentioned, the couple i just talked about, theyre from about three hours outside of surabaya. Theyve been here for the past three days hoping waiting and praying for good news. Now theyre at a nearby hotel, the airline has put them up and trying to provide information and take care of them. The interesting thing, and ive been hearing this from many of the family members i have been speaking to is they feel like that they are getting as much information as possible from officials. Youll republican too, the president , joko wee dodo was here in surabaya. He met with family members, spoke to media and said something very touching. They are searching and trying to recover any human remains, parts of the airplane out there. The emphasis is on taking care of the next of kin on those on board and he told them i feel your loss i pray that you find the strength to be able to face this. And thats the mood were hearing tonight. Its one of loss and potentially great loss but also one of strength. Carol . David molko reporting live from indonesia, thanks so much. Still to come in the newsroom, the final moments of flight 8501. What should have been going on in the cockpit . Well talk about that next. If youre taking multiple medications does your mouth often feel dry . A dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. But it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. Thats why theres biotene available as an oral rinse toothpaste, spray or gel. Biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. Remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isnt. Biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. 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Scott miller is a former pilot for Northwest Airlines and jeff wise is a Science Writer and author of the book extreme fear. Good morning to you both. Good morning. Good morning, so scott i want to focus in on this two minute lapse. So the pilot calls into air Traffic Control and he says, you know i need to ascend i have to get arm this storm. Air Traffic Control says theres too much air traffic in the area and they go silent for a full two minutes, at least with flight 8501. And by the time air Traffic Controller reconnects with this plane theres no answer and its apparently gone. Is a twominute period of time normal . Is that unusual . Not if there was conflicting traffic in the area. The one thing i did find interesting about this is of course they did ask for the claim but they also asked for a deviation in their route. When i was flying and had to deal with avoiding thunderstorms on my route of flight we typically used the lateral deviations to go around the thunderstorm particularly with this type of storm building in the morning, theyre pretty hard to outclimb. We typically use altitude to try to find smooth air. Most likely it was turbulent and perhaps they were both trying to get around the storm and trying to find some clear air, but the fact that they asked for both at the same time i found to be a little unusual. The other thing that i found unusual, scott, is the plane was supposed to take off at 7 30 in the morning but it took off at 5 30. They upped the flight two hours. Is that normal . Again, with the weather that has been experienced in that part of the world, the monsoon wind patterns have been pretty strong driving some pretty Severe Weather, as weve seen. I wasnt aware of that specific fact but the fact that the flight was moved up could be an indication they were trying to beat the storms. In the United States we dont have that type of extreme weather so those types of schedule changes would be very rare but in that type of the world, that very well may be what they were trying to accomplish getting the flight in ahead of the Severe Weather that was expected to build that day. Jeff i asked scott that question because some of the family members were concerned about that why did that happen . Ive looked into. This im not entirely convinced personally that that fact is in fact true. Ive seen conflicting information. I cant imagine how one could logistically move a flight forward. You fly a lot, i fly a lot. They found the paperwork, they absolutely did. Okay. Because some other sources that showed that the plane left at the normal time. So perhaps okay i will defer to you. Its hard to imagine how you get 100 plus people to all show up at the airport two hours early in the predawn. Some of the passengers said they missed the flight because they didnt get the email in time because the airline sent out an email saying the flight had been moved up two hours. The other thing, i know air travel is growing at an explosive rate in asia. Lots of planes in the sky. That means theres not enough experienced pilots or air Traffic Controllers to go around. Do you suppose that will be part of the investigation . Well, thats certainly something a lot of people have brought up. Indonesia does not have a good record for air travel. Many carriers are banned from traveling to the european union, for instance, the largest carrier, lion air, is banned from traveling to the european union. However, airasia is a very different case. Its considered very well managed, has a spotless record. Now, has this effect flowed over into airasia . I think its too early to say but clearly that will be a question on peoples minds. But, scott, youre only as strong as your weakest link right . Lets say the air Traffic Controllers were not the best right . Thats possible. Should that be part of the investigation . Im sure it will be part of the investigation, but the thing that we have to keep in mind is for good or ill the pilots are ultimately responsible for the safe operation of the aircraft. And in the United States if i was faced with a similar situation where weather had closed in i would hopely. Done my home work a little bit ahead of time and wouldnt find myself in that situation as would, im sure many of my fellow pilots. But if we were found in that situation, we can use a number of tools up to and including some Emergency Authority to ensure that the aircrafts flight path is kept safe at all times. And perhaps these pilots tried to accomplish that as well. The pilots are ultimately responsible for the safety of the aircraft and once the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorders are located well be able to get a very clear picture in a very short period of time just what exactly did happen during that twominute time. The wreckage spotted in the java sea was like an emergency exit door and some life jackets. And some of the passengers bodies, of course, have been recovered. From the wreckage scott, can you tell if the plane came apart in the air or closer to the water . Well my initial impression on hearing that is that i do believe the aircraft was probably fairly intact when it made water contact. If it had come apart in the air as with Malaysia Airlines 17 that we learned, the debris field would have been much larger and i believe found probably a little bit quicker than it was. The fact that it appears the wreckage is in a fairly close area just based on the small amount weve seen to this point kind of tells me wreckage itself is probably pretty small. The thing we need to keep in mind as well, the sea state over the past 48 hours has been im sure quite turbulent with these storms, with the wind making it pretty hard to find these pieces. Scott miller jeff wise thanks for your insight, i appreciate it. Still to come in the newsroom the devastating cyber attack on sony. What if the hacker was not north korea but, rather a former employee . Well get the fbi reaction to that one. Dad, i know i havent said this often enough, but thank you. Thank you mom for protecting my future. Thank you for being my hero and my dad. Military families are uniquely thankful for many things the legacy of usaa Auto Insurance could be one of them. If youre a current or former military member or their family, get an Auto Insurance quote and see why 92 of our members plan to stay for life. Its a whodunit is that is as intriguing as it is potentially embarrassing. What if north korea wasnt really to blame for the devastating cyber attack on sony in . On cnn last night, the head of the Cyber Security giant norse says the evidence suggests the hack was an inside job, including a former employee. These suspects have at least one had ties to Critical Knowledge of sony systems, ip addresses and had motive for being what i would say would be upset at sony due to reorganization that happened within the department. Pamela brown is cnns justice correspondent. Pamela, what are your sources telling you . Carol, bottom line i