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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello July 20, 2015

Thought he could do the most good. Lets talk live in the cnn newsroom. And good morning. Im Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me. A defiant donald trump makes no apologies after igniting a political firestorm. For the very first time the target of his attack senator john mccain, is breaking his silence. But here is where the controversy began. In iowa when trump said this. Hes not a war hero. Hes a war hero. 5 1 2 years hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured i hate to tell you. He was a war hero because he was captured okay . You can have and i believe perhaps hes a war hero. Mccain spent more than five years as a prisoner of war during the vietnam war before being shot down by enemy forces. He was tortured during that time. Here is how the senator responded earlier today when asked whether he believes trump owes him an apology. No i dont think so but i think he may owe an apology to the families of those who have sacrificed in conflict and those who have undergone the prison experience in serving their country. When mr. Trump said he prefers to be with people who were not captured well the great honor of my life was to serve in the company of heroes. Im not a hero but those who were my senior ranking officers people like colonel bud day, congressional medal of honor winner those that inspired us to do things that we otherwise wouldnt have been capable of doing, those are the people that i think he owes an apology to. Any minute now were expecting one of trumps competitors, jeb bush to address a crowd in florida. Of course one of the big questions, whether he will weigh in on this controversy. With me now, cnns political director David Chalian. Good morning. Good morning, carol. Good morning. Thank you for being with me. I appreciate it. Donald trump let it rip on the today show when challenged about all of this. Id like to you listen to what he said. Would you say that to john mccains face. If you go on matt see thats what you dont do excuse me matt because youre the media and you do the same thing. The next sentence was he is a war hero. I said that but they never want to play it and you dont want to play it. Well why would you say the first thing . Excuse me, you started it off hey, Matt Savannah started it off by saying i said that he wasnt a war hero. I didnt say that. And if you would have let it run just another three seconds, you would have said that i said very clearly he is a war hero. I have absolutely no problem with that. What i do have problems with is that he called 15,000 people that showed up for me to speak in phoenix, he called them crazies because they want to stop illegal immigration and they were insulted. Let me say for the record we did run the other part of your comments mr. Trump. He did run the part where you said he is a war hero. So please dont say that we didnt because we did. Well then why did savannah start off by saying i said that he was not a war hero. I never said that. I said he was a war hero matt. So you misrepresent just like everybody else. I do have a problem with what hes doing on the border. Hes terrible and i do have a problem with the fact with the illegal immigration is a disaster and hes doing a horrible job for the vets. Matt i see the vets. They come to me. These are powerful wonderful people and theyre crying they dont know what to do. Theyre lost because of what were doing. Frankly, Illegal Immigrants get treated better than many of our vets. Its a disgrace whats happening in this country and john mccain has done nothing about it but talk. One portion where you said at the end of one comment, i like people who werent captured. Let me just highlight that moment for a second. If youre elected president , youll be commander in chief of this country, and theyve got about 10,000 u. S. Troops in afghanistan, about 3,500 serving in iraq. They face danger on a daily basis, donald and they face capture on a daily basis. I agree. Do you think you have sent the wrong message to those people that if theyre captured somehow donald trump, the commander in chief, is not in favor of them . I dont think so. I think this i do also respect greatly people that arent captured. Nobody talks about them. We talk about john mccain and i think its great, and he is a very brave man and all of that but we dont talk about the people that werent captured and thats what i was trying to refer to and i think i did. And by the way, if you see the News Conference right afterwards a few minutes afterwards everything was perfect. I never even thought this would be an issue. My opponents have brought it up. These are guys that have zero in the polls and by the way, you said that i said im doing well. Im not saying im doing well. The polls are saying im doing well matt. When you introduced me it was said that i said im doing well. I didnt say that. The polls have me leading. Okay david. You have been covering politics a long long time. What do you make of this . Well first of all, what you saw right there, thats classic donald trump, and that combative interview taking on the media, carol, thats part of the fuel of his rise. I mean that is part of the appeal that the segment of the republican nominating electorate that is supporting donald trump that has rocketed him to the top of the polls, thats what they like this brash talk. He doesnt sound like your typical politician. So that plays right into trumps wheelhouse. So but, you know, there are some places you just dont go and you just dont go anywhere near what approaches criticism of veterans of war, but he did. So will he pay for that . He did. And listen you can parse his exact words as he was trying to do there with matt lauer, but obviously he was questioning john mccains war hero status right . And so what i find fascinating about what happened over the weekend is that donald trump crossed to this place that most people dont normally go and the entire republican establishment pounced. They were waiting for a john mccain misstep, not just his opponents, but the Republican National committee who is sort of like the neutral arbiter inside the republican nomination contest, right . They dont pick a candidate of their own in this race and even they sort of put their thumbs on the scale and called it out of bounds. So donald trump in sort of doing this the wing of the party, the establishment wing that is very very concerned about trumps candidacy doesnt know quite how to deal with it is concerned what its doing for the Overall Party brand, they pounced. Now, Trump Supporters carol, like i said i dont know that this is actually going to turn them off. I think sort of taking on the press in this way and being brash like this is really part of the appeal. All right. Well thanks so much David Chalian for this insight this morning. We should point out that donald trump received not one, but fi deferments that kept him from serving in vietnam according to the smoking gun which obtained Selective Service records for trump. One was a medical release which stemmed from a foot problem. Apparently has a bone spur in his foot. Lets bring in someone who supports donald trump, robert keiger. Do you still support donald trump this morning . Good morning, carol. Nice to be back with you. Absolutely i still support donald trump. Why . You know well listen i liken him as the uber of the gop. Listen the establishment taxi cap drivers and the taxi Cap Companies absolutely hate uber. The establishment gop, the Establishment Republicans hate donald trump for the exact same reason. So listen, pc is gone completely and out of control in this country. Okay. Lets talk about Political Correctness because he did appear to be criticizing john mccain for his service in vietnam, and, you know, when trump said hes a war hero because he was captured. Okay i believe perhaps hes a war hero. Why even go there . Should he have gone there . Listen last week when you and i spoke you were saying he shouldnt have gone there about the Illegal Immigrants and if it rips the scab off some wounds to talk more about veterans affairs, how terribly these veterans are being treated in this country, so be it. Weve got to cowboy up and quit worrying about these tiny things. Pc has gone out of control. Martin omalley a couple days ago said black lives matter white lives matter all lives matter. And everybody blew up. It was a terrible terrible he apologized. Thats crazy. All lives do matter. White, black, brown, yellow it doesnt matter. Youre right that did happen to Martin Omalley and you have it exactly right. In the end though rocket, it comes down to what youre going to do about problems. Donald trump says, hey, we have to do something about the veterans but he wrote an oped in usa today in the paper this morning, and he says he donated 1 million to build this war memorial and he also appeared in a parade for veterans in 1995. Thats the extent of what donald trump has done for veterans. Is that really enough . Does he have i mean is he right to criticize john mccain when thats the extent to which hes gone to help veterans in this country . I think those two things that you just said are two more things than john mccain has done for veterans. Oh come on robert really . Robert lets just focus on what donald trump has done. Okay. Okay. But i dont know anything that john mccain has done either at least donald trump helped raise 1 million to build this memorial. You know and as commander in chief hes not running against john mccain. John mccain is not running for president. Understood. So lets go back and donald trump is. So what is he going to do for veterans . He says hes going to build all new hospitals. I think thats one of the things he said. But you know thats harder than just saying it right . So what has he done and in the end doesnt it come down to issues . Absolutely it comes down to issues and i wish we would get back to that. This presidency is about competency and American People let me tell you something, they love his bluntness. They need some truth, and hes not being controlled by any political i get that. I get that robert. When we run around calling people dummies and they call you an idiot back its just so childish. Doesnt it come down to i know you are but what am i or whatever children say when they call each other names . Listen Dana Milbanks of the Washington Post called donald trump a fraud and a dirty rotten pig. Where is the civility in that . You can talk about it on both sides of the spectrum. But donald trump is running for president of the United States. I understand that. But listen donald trump is donald trump. Im not going to change him, youre not going to change him, and the American People are liking the truth and honesty and the clean talk that donald trump is portraying. You know what . Last week when you and i talked you said that his Approval Rating was terrible 23 . Its now at 57 . I said wait a few days because its going to increase and you know what . Guess what. It did. Its now at 57 . I bet if you take a poll in a couple days in iowa where he is right now second behind scott walker, it will be better. You could absolutely be right. It will be better. Okay. We have a bet. Robert kiger, thanks so much for being with me. I appreciate it. Dinner next time im in atlanta. Ill take you up on that. Okay. Thank you. A deposition exposes even more sordid details about bill cosby. How he paid off women, hiding sex from his wife and claiming he could read womens sexual cues. Up next accuser Janice Dickinson gives us her reaction. At ally bank no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. I brought in some protein to get us moving. Im new ensure active high protein. I help you recharge with Nutritious Energy and strength. Ill take that. Yeeeeeah new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. Ensure. Take life in. If you cant stand the heat, get off the test track. Get the mercedesbenz youve been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedesbenz dealer. Hurry, before this opportunity cools off. Share your summer moments in your mercedesbenz with us. Bill cosby in his own words. New graphic details surrounding his rape allegations, this time coming from the comedian himself. In a bombshell deposition cosby admits to affairs with at least five different women. He talks about giving the women drugs before sex and the lies he told to keep his wife, who he refers to as mrs. Cosby, in the dark. He answered questions as part of a 2005 lawsuit that Andrea Constand brought against him for allegedly drugging and sexual assaulting her. When asked if an encounter with con stand was consensual he explained how he used nonverbal cues to determine that she welcomed sex saying, quote, i walk her out. She does not look angry. She does not say to me dont ever do that again. She doesnt walk out with an attitude or a huff because i think im a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in thats romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call them. Fredricka whitfield spoke with another cosby accuser, Janice Dickinson, last night and fredricka joins me with more on that. Janice dickinson tells me her wounds are dope made even more painful after reading parts of cosbys deposition and she feels right now a range of emotions from anger to vindication. Did reading the details of this deposition or that knowing that its now been unsealed and many are reading through it did that also mean that its been an emotional journey for you just within the past 24 hours . Yes, absolutely. Theres no doubt about it. Theres no way to put into words the depth of misery pain and humiliation that i have that i and the other women and all women and men that have gone through unconsented, nonconsensual drugs and rape it altered my behavior. My family has been embarrassed an humiliated. Has reading this deposition in any way kind of reopened wounds for you . Has it given you a better recollection of what your account has been about what happened back in 1982 . Theres no words to even im angry. Im confused. I dont have any healing yet thats taken place. The nightmares that occur every night. You know the sense memory the taste and the cadence of these unsealed Court Records or these sealed Court Records that have just been made public have just got me really im really upset. Explain to me how this has further upset you. I remember last december you described back in 1982 you were in a hotel room. You went to his room willingly and that you say that he gave you some sort of drug and when you woke up your account was you were in pain and you were certain that he raped you. When you read through this deposition now and read that he pursued young women for sex and there were quaaludes involved. How does that help your account, how does it change your account . Does it add more details for you . It just i keep reliving the same sick the same sick feeling in my soul and in my body. The memories are still there, and every time i think about it and i hear new information i still it still takes me back to that actual night like it happened yesterday. Its back in 1982 and it sickens me but i have to be strong. I have to be strong for my, you know, our daughters, our sisters, our mothers, our aunts, our cousins, i have to be strong for women. I have to do this. Its the right thing to do. The court of Public Opinion now believes what happened. I mean all these women were telling the same story again and again. You know underage women. No one gave this monster permission i promise you. I didnt give him permission. I can only speak for myself. Because that is a word that he uses in this deposition that it was consensual. I dont believe that fredricka. I do not believe that at all ever. I will never believe that. I can only speak with what happened to me. I did not consent to having consensual sex. How could i . I was drugged. And i remember you telling me that you felt there were a lot of people who doubted your story, whether it was then back in the 80s and then even along the years, but now with this deposition being revealed deposition taken ten years ago, how does this in your view validate the story that youve been telling and that of other women . I dont know how that works in a courtroom. I dont feel any validation. I wont feel validated until cosby and to the known women and the yet to be known women get an apology to each and every one of us, to myself and to each and every one of us and that this mass serial rapist be put in jail for his crimes against humanity. And its important to note that bill cosby has denied Janice Dickinsons allegations, and there are no criminal charges against him as it pertains to dickinson. The statute of limitation has run out. Dickinson has an ongoing defamation lawsuit against cosby in large part because attorneys representing cosby said her story was, quote, unquote, a lie, and she says it has cost her her reputation it has cost her work and humiliation. Fredricka whitfield, many thanks to you. I appreciate it. Looks like donald trump doesnt do apologies. The president ial candidate has had every chance to apologize for what he said about john mccain, but he will not do it. Could that actually help him though . Well talk about that next. Hows it progressing with the prisoner . Hell tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir. As you were. Where were we . 13 serving 14 service if your boss stops by, you act like youre working. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Shopping online. Is as easy as it gets. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners. Were just as simple . 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