Relations person, when he talked with reporters, in other words, he used a phony name when he talked with these reporters, and marketed himself. Here is audio of one of those calls. What is your position there . Im sort of handling pr because we get so much of it. Frankly, i mean, i could tell you off the record, off the record, i can tell you that he didnt care if he got bad pr until he got his divorce finished. What kind of comment is this coming from your agency . From donald . Well, its just that he really decided that he wasnt, you know, he didnt want to make a commitment. Our senior political reporter, manu raju is following the story. He has more from washington. Good morning, manu. Good morning, carol. This apparently was something pretty common for new york reporters and editors to hear in the early part of Donald Trumps career, according to the Washington Post report that oftentimes, these reporters or editors would get a phone call back that theyre working on an article about donald trump from someone either john miller or john baron, his love life, the questions were asking about, his business dealings, and the like. And take a listen for yourself about whether or not you think this is donald trump. Well, its just that he really decided that he wasnt, you know, he didnt want to make a commitment. He really thought it was too soon. He is coming out of a, you know, a marriage that he is starting a new tremendously he it was totally unanimous. He is been working hard and doing well, and probably as you know, real impression in the United States that he is probably doing as well as anybody there is. And frankly, he wants to keep it that way. He thought it was too soon to make any commitment to anybody. So what will happen when she is is going he treats everybody well. You know. I have met him. Have you met him . Yeah, he is a good guy. So donald trump was actually asked about this on nbcs today show earlier today and he insisted this was not him. It was not me on the phone. And it doesnt sound like me on the phone. Ill tell you that. It was not me on the phone. When was this, 25 years ago. In the early 90s . You mean youre going so low as to talk about something at that took place 25 years ago about whether or not i made a phone call . I guess youre saying under a presumed name. Yes, under a presumed name. Okay, the answer is no. So the question is whether or not this has any impact on the Political Campaign that has rewritten all rules. Im not sure if it does. But donald trump is of course under water with female voters and said things about his love life that probably wont play well for that particular voting block and underscores that he is a man of course who has never been a politician in his life and said a lcontroversial thing, being through the tabloids and the like. All right, manu raju, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. I want to bring in kaley and matt lewis. Welcome to both of you. Matt, you know, ill just be honest. I dont know what to think of this. What do you think . First, let me say, i dont think that listening to the audio on television does it justice. Earlier today, listened to an eight minute clip, this Washington Post report put out an eight minute long clip. I listened to it with earphones in. So i think got a better sense, in eight minutes, ive been listening to donald trump talk now for years, especially for the last six months, and i think it was him talking under this name, john miller. And it is really ununcanny, may it wasnt him, but the mannerisms, the way he spoke, it really does sound like donald trump. And i dont think the audio clips on tv really do that justice. And i dont know if we made it clear enough exactly what i mean, the john miller or maybe donald trump was talking about on those phone calls, but it was when he was in the midst of a divorce from eye ivana. And the weird thing, is the use of the third person, like donald a very good guy. Mr. Trump is incredibly classy, of course, we think it is donald trump saying it. So its utterly bizarre that this would come out. But of course, he completely denies it. And also, this john miller on the phone, kaley, and ill let you respond to this. Im just reading from the Washington Post article, this john miller liked to brag about all of the beautiful actresses that liked to throw themselves at mr. Trump, actresses, miller said in this call to the reporter, they just call to see if they can go out with him and things. Madonna wanted to go out with him. Alter ego also boasted that in addition to living with maples, he had three other girlfriends. What do you make of this, kaley . Does it bother you as a trump supporter . Look, i mean, were speculating this is actually trumps voice, first of all. There is no proof of that, i would like to point out. Im less concerned with statements he made 25 years ago that may or may not have been his voice. Im more concerned with the statements Hillary Clinton made four years ago. We just heard steve king come on this program and said she blatantly lied in a classified hearing as to the motives of n benghazi to congress. Thats per jury. Thats deflecting. I would like the Washington Post use half of a pry eye on Hillary Clinton and the lies of Hillary Clinton and they will find a treasure trove of things that they choose not to report because they seem to have a vendetta against donald trump. It is completely unfair and bias that these publications do this. I think kaley is right about one thing. This speaks to me, this speaks to being disingenuous. Hillary clinton, if you watch her video with the southern accent, thats what this really reminds me of more than anything else, pretending to be this southern gal. From chicago. Sniper fire when she in fact was not. But is it a vendetta by the Washington Post . Is it a fair story, matt . Well, looks, it is absolutely fair. I dont think it will move that many voters, because look, if you like donald trump, this is baked into the cake. He does weird, bizarre things. He is a showman. He likes to troll the media. This maybe helps him amongst his supporters. If youre people like me, who are skeptical of trump and maybe scared of donald trump frankly, this is like one more piece of evidence that youve compiled that says, like, this guy is, you know, this is bizarre, weird behavior, to pose allegedly, but you know, it seemingly pose as an alter ego. So i dont think it moves the needle t hardens opinions about donald trump. The fact it looks really, i think it will backfire, because here is the thing. It looks entirely desperate when you are digging through this mans past, going 25 years back, finding anything and everything you can use to try to depict him as dishonest or a liar, i think voters think it is silly. I think voters care about jobs, terrorism, they dont care about this. It looks very desperate and will end up back firing. Lets talk about issues. Thats a good segue. Everyone is talking about Donald Trumps muslim ban and how he is sort of backing away that he would ban muslims from coming into the country, because there could be exceptions. He was asked about on the morning shows this morning. Here is what he said on the today show. Im not the president right now. So anything i suggest is really a suggestion, and if i were president , i would put in legislation and do what i have to do. But would you put in legislation im looking at it strongly. We have an islamic, we have really a problem with radical islamic terrorism. We have a president that doesnt want to use the term. He refuses to use the term, even though there are so many problems. He refuses to use it are you softening your staces and using subtle differences to be more moderate to attract speaker ryan . No, im not softening my stance. Im flexible on very many issues and i think you have to be that way. Im not softening my stance. We have a major problem and we have to look at the problem and solve the problem. We have a president that doesnt even talk about the problem. He wont even use the words. He wont even call by its right name. So kaley, when donald trump says it is a suggestion, what does he mean. What he said in the debates, he is flexible on things. Thats how you get things done in the country. You dont get things done by not reaching out to congress the way the current president has. He is going to suggest these things. We know where he stands, he wants to secure the border, protect the country, he wants to renegotiate the trade deals. He is going to on flexible with congress. Dont voters, kaley, want to know how hell do that and if he wants to secure the border by building the wall, shouldnt they be more than suggestions. Theyre proposals. I think voters know where he stands. They know the things hell put before congress, but who knows where it will ends up at the end of the day. So i guess as a voter, like im just trying to take myself out of the reporter box, and im listening to my candidate and giving me a bunch of suggestion, way m which may or may not happen. Dont you want someone who can make things happen. I want someone who says what they stand and have principles. Likewise, we can talk about Hillary Clinton flipped on trade, supported t approximate. P, now all of a sudden against it. I dont know why she stands. When a majority of the country gets on one side of the issue, she flips. Thats why voters are so frustrated with politicians. Im just trying to figure out what exactly mr. Trump means. What do you think, matt. Yeah, its unclear to me where either of these these are two incredibly unlikable candidates. I dont really know where either of them stands at the end of the day. And i do think donald trump is softening now, and he goes back and forth. I just have to say, i think paul ryan, this may be part of the sed du seduction of paul ryan and could you have a Republican Party saying, hey, it didnt work with donald trump. Maybe we need to finally win some hispanic and women voters. If paul ryan allows his message, his sort of more compassionate conservative message to be co opted by donald trump, hell be in a less enviable position. The most damage that has been done to the Republican Party is mitt romney being leaked of him saying he is dismissing 47 of the electorate, because theyre dependant on government, because theyll vote with the president. Donald trump has come into the party and said no, im going out for every voter. I think people should have health care. I think women should have help funding. I am standing and making this party more compassionate to sta stark contrast. Ive got to leave it there. Kaley, matt, thanks to both of you. Thank you. How appropriate to see Bernie Sanders at Mount Rushmore this week, as Hillary Clinton nomination is almost carved in stone. Theyre wondering why he is still trying. But sanders says he is the stronger candidate. He is the one who can beat donald trump. Now a group of sanders supporters reportedly want him to concede to clinton, and make an independent run. Cnn chris frates is in washington with more on that. Good morning. Good morning, youre absolutely right. Bernie sanders took his long shot campaign to south dakota yesterday, firing up his faithful with reasons to believe that he can still beat Hillary Clinton. Now, it is mathematically impossible, as you point out, for sanders to win enough delegates in the remaining contest to clinch the nomination. So sanders is instead arguing that he could win more pledged delegates than clinton when the primaries end next month of but thats even a high bar. Sander wos need to win 67 of the remaining pledged delegates. And even then, sanders would need super delegates. Those are the Party Bigwigs who also get a vote at the convention. He would need them to flip their support in order to win. And thats very, very unlikely. Now, sanders is still arguing that he is the candidate best positioned to take on and beat donald trump. But when pressed about it yesterday, he acknowledged that clinton could also defeat the presumptive gop nominee. I am not here to say that Hillary Clinton cant defeat donald trump. I absolutely believe that he she can. But i believe that quite honestly, Bernie Sanders is the stronger candidate. Now, clinton has maintained a lower profile than sanders over the past couple of days. Her only event yesterday was a meeting with hiv activists at her brooklyn headquarters, and no events scheduled today. Meanwhile, sander also be in bismarck and fargo, north dakota, carol. All right, chris frates, thanks so much. Still to come in the newsroom, frustrated pflyers, screener shortages. 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Now, the tsa should be prepared and ready for it, but to put it in perspective, they screen 710 million passengers a year, and 2 billion pieces ever bags, and that increases every year by 40 million passengers and bags at about 20 . So they are seeing rapid increases in travel, because of the cost and availability, and they havent kept pace with the demand. Like in atlanta, sometimes people have to wait in line for three hours to get through security. Thats just, thats just crazy. In new york, its not much better. The new york port authority, overseeing the new york city three airports, it wrote a letter, essentially threatening to fire the tsa, and replace it with private companies. Atlantas airport did the very same thing. So is privatizing the tsa the answer . No, thats not answer. There are a few airports in the United States have it and they did it with special permission to do that. They were tested and pilot programs. People have to remember, when we have privatized Airport Security on september 11th, 2011, we had no over sight, our screeners werent even citizens, and in some cases, as we learned in the 9 11 litigation, we didnt even know who they were. We didnt have trained security personnel. So the tsa was formed in november 2001, and its easy to say it is a disaster, but the statistics have changed. In just 18 months before 9 11, we had 30 cockpit intrusions. In the 30 years leading up to september 11th, we had 109 domestic hijackings and 53 foreign hijacking, this is just u. S. Carriers. So things have changed dramatically with the tsa and what people need do is to get the precheck. It is under 100 and you go through the precheck lines, and the tss committed not to clog those with high paying passengers, to save it forpre check people. I have it and i love it. Me too. A lot of people knock the tsa. They believe it is just luck that something dire hasnt happened in the air, with a bomb getting through, it is just luck. Theyre so inept, they probably didnt have anything to do with it. I hear that all the time. What do you say . I say no, because of what the statistics show, just in terms of their success and the number of gunls, 2,700 guns a year, thats increasing dramatically, and the fact that we have been able to thwart it, i think the system is blinking red again, but most likely, the holes that terrorists will exploit will be parts of the airport that do not have secure see coverage. Most of the workers report everyday without going through screening, as in the attacks overseas, terrorists have exploited those loopholes. They have to be closed i. The tsa does not have the percent in he will or the money to do that. The tsa effectiveness has to be increased. They still miss test weapons going through the test. The offers ice of inspector gen still does testing, and the tsa still fails. They must be closed, particularly now, given the world events. So i dont give the tsa a pass but they are so much better than 9 11 that i dont think you should throw them out just because were having problems. But boy, we cant go