Credentials. When it comes to defeating isis, clinton says trumps plan is no plan. The candidates participate in a National Security forum today, and as trump gears up for a Mail Temporary Speech in philadelphia tonight. Lets get to cnn sara murray, live in greenville, north carolina. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. Were seeing a game of one ups man ship, who is better Commander In Chief and Hillary Clinton is trying to get one over donald trump, releasing a list of 95 retired Military Leaders who are backing her candidacy, meanwhile, trump has been lobbing attacks. She never talks about policy. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton, Clashing Over who is ready to be Commander In Chief. He has no clue about what he is talking about. Trump, unveiling endorsements from nearly 90 retired u. S. Military leaders, and revealing his plan to demand a plan to take down isis. Were going to convene my top generals and give them a simple instruction. They will have 30 days to submit to the oval office. A plan for soundly and quickly defeating isis. He says he has a secret plan to defeat isis, but the secret is, he has no plan. Reporter as clinton warns trump will lead the u. S. Back to war. When it comes to fighting isis, he has been all over the map. You would have to literally map it out. He has talked about letting syria become a free zone for isis. Look at the map, donald. He has talked about sending in american ground troops. Not on my watch. Reporter do the democratic nominee capitalizing about veterans in this new ad. A war hero. He is not a war hero. He is. He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured, okay. Reporter as she touts her own military supporters. They know they cannot count on donald trump. They view him as a danger and a risk. Reporter but trump continues to argue clinton is the risky one. Hillary clinton favors what has been called military adventurism. Rushing to invade countries, Displacing Millions of families, and then inviting the refugees into our country, creating power vacuums filled by Terrorist Groups like isis. Reporter as the two Rivals Trade Barbs who hillary likes to play tough with russia. Putin looks at her and laughs. Russia doesnt like isis any better than we do. Wouldnt it be nice if we got along with them and we could knock them out together. Were going to work with our allies, not insult them. Stand up to our advairrys. Highlighting the fbis revelation that one of her aids destroyed old phones with a hammer. Very shady activity. Reporter and seizing on clintons repeated claim in the fbi interview that there were details she just couldnt recall. If she really cant remember, she cant be president. She doesnt remember any were you instructed on how to use i cant remember. Reporter now carol, we are a getting details on what we expect donald trump to talk about in his speech in philadelphia, in addition to calling for an end to the defense, but how he plans to bolster the military, adding fighter jets, ships, sub marmar, and he is referring to his view of Foreign Policy as diplomacy and not destruction, and also going to call her email h reckless. Sara murray, reporting live from greenville, nok. Let north carolina. Lets talk about this. Commanding general and Major General sidney shack, a four year army veteran and a letter of support from 88 military officials who have endorsed donald trump. Welcome to both of you. General shack, i would like to start with you. Donald trump wants to burnish his credentials, but the Dallas Morning has endorsed Hillary Clinton. The papers Editorial Board writes as barack obama first secretary of state, she clinton helped make tough calls on the middle east and the complex struggle against radical islamic terrorism. It is no accident that hundreds of republican Foreign Policy hands back clinton. So general shack, now, this is a texas newspaper. It is a very red state. In fact, mr. Trump leads in that state now. So why would the Dallas Newspaper write that about mr. Trump this morning . Well, it is a judgment call. Its [ inaudible ] endorsement. People people will make up their own mind on the information. They have their own opinion. Bombarded for information for years, it seems like. And most people are suffering from information overload. At some point, were going to have a make a decision. Why they did theirs, i cant tell. You heard what mr. Trump said. Hell convene his top generals, giving them 30 days to defeat isis with a plan. Last night, you called that sophomoric. Trump supporters said you had your chance, you know, because you were in The Field Of Battle Combating Isis and you failed. How do you respond to that . Well, i would respond by saying that this is a generational fight, carol. When you do the analysis, as ive done of mr. Trumps comments about what he would do against isis, and thats just one of multiple National Security issues, he has ranged from waterboarding to putting a ring of soldiers around them, and bombing their oil fields, to bombing their families to destroying their families, to saying that he knows better than all the generals do about what to do about isis, and now he is saying, but now im going to give them 30 days to give me a plan for isis. So from an analysis standpoint, im trying to figure out what he actually stands, and he has not said what hell do. It is a good step to certainly get Military Advice from your generals, but thats not what he has said in the past. Indicators what ive seen, by watching mr. Trump over the last year or so, he is not really willing to take advice. He has said that on multiple occasions that he knows better than everybody else. So is he saying this because he believes people want to hear it. Or is he saying it because he is really going to try to get the best minds to think about what they do. Youre right, i have been lets ask i want to ask the general about that right now. You heard what general hertling said. Donald trump has said he is for torturing terrorists, right, killing the Family Members of terrorists. Now you heard sara murray just say mr. Trump is for diplomacy. Which is it . Well, i think that we are so politically correct, the Rules Of Engagement are so strict, and since world war ii, we have not had a victory. We come up with relationships and understandings, but it is nothing like a victory in world war ii. So the whole request for a plan to defeat, i have to probably take issue with it, because i dont think we can come up with it. We dont have the resources. General shachnow, just so the audience understands, does that mean youre for things like torture or killing terrorists families, and is what you talked to mr. Trump about . No. Im not for torture. But i am for saying the way things are. If we cannot defeat somebody, then we should add mit that up front and not followup on it as if its an attainable goal. So general hertling, i dont know if you caught that, because im kind of having difficulty hearing, because the general is on skype, but mr. Trump has also said in the past that he has a plan, but he has to keep it secret, because he doesnt want the enemy to know. Is that possible . Im sure it is possible in his mind, but again, if he has a plan and now asking his generals to submit a plan within 30 days, there seems to be an indicator that mr. Trump will say things to various audiences to get their approval. And when you take them in combination or synchronize all the elements of the things he said, to me, carol, it just doesnt make sense. And to what general said, everyone who signed the letter, theyre great citizens, theyve worn the cloth of their country. But im concerned that many of them may, like General Shachnow thinks, it is a world war ii environment. It is not. It is a war among the people, where people, where the enemy is not wearing uniforms, and there are requirements for Rules Of Engagements to maintain the safety of innocent siecivilians. It makes it much more challenging and difficult, and why it is a generational, forces meeting forces. Do you agree with that . Yes, i do. And i would point out that right now, our military is in pretty bad shape. Were cannibalizing to keep aircraft flying. The Chief Of Staff of the army has testified that the army is at risk of a major engagement. So you know, we have to recognize our limitations. And he is right about that, general hertling, some of the militarys equipment isnt in the best shape and does need to replace, i mean, and even in personnel, were lacking in personnel. Especially in the air force, they cant find enough pilots to fly the drones. We are certainly faced with many challenges in all areas of the military. Weve been reporting that. But thats partly due to what our congress has done with sequestering it. What you have to do is look at a military that is Strong Enough to face the requirements that are conflicting with us on The World Stage. It is more than isis. There are other things that i think were going to hear a lot about in the debates today and the commanders in chief forum and which has the best approach to all of the problems, not just isis. And there are many more challenges on The World Stage, and the military has been under a great deal of stress, because of 16 years of war. And reduction in budget. All of Service Chiefs have said that. Thats a different problem than what were talking about in term was defeating isis. All right, i have to leave it there Lieutenant General hertling, saidney shachnow. Thank you for being with me. 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He calls it a rigged political system. This morning, a fresh reminder he has been part of the system for a long time. But it is that 25,000 donation from his foundation initially to the Florida Attorney general in 2013 that is receiving fresh scrutiny because it came just as her office was set to review allegations at trump universities. Foundations are not allowed to make contributions, so was slapped with a 2,500 fine by the irs. He wrote a check himself to bondi. It offers a new reminder, he has been blunt about what he may get out of it. Ive given to hillary, ive given to everybody. Because that was my job. I got to give to them. Because when i want something, i get it. When i call, they kiss my ass. Its true. They kiss my ass. That was trump turning the iowa caucuses, getting what he gets sometimes from these contributions, but back to the florida case, he said he never discussed this case with the Florida Attorney general, but has held fundraisers for her and is a big supporter of his. She said her office was never planning to investigate per se, so the Clinton Campaign is still seizing on this, carol. An attempt to go back to offense here, but the New York Times is reporting a long list of examples fines trump has received going back 30 years for evading limits on contributions or violating campaign laws. You can see there. I think carol, an example of pay for play, perhaps did not just come from one side of the ail here, but both. Just to clarify, this a complicated case. The attorney generals attorney in florida was investigating Trump University for defrauding students, right. So at some point, the trump charitable donated 25,000. She claims she didnt even know her office was investigated trump u. Exactly. And then four days later, the Attorney Generals Office to do what, just drop the case . Drop the case. They werent alone. There were actually a lot of Attorneys General across the country that declined to investigate it. This was after the new York Attorney general decided to investigate fraud cases. So there was discussion in the Florida AttorneyGenerals Office of if they should look into this, they decided not to, and her office says it was by lower level aids inside the office, but she is in control of what the office does. But again, the reason it came to light it, was a check initially sent to the foundation, charitable foundation, which is a nono. You cannot give money to politicians. He was fined . Indeed. 2,500. Wrongdoing found out and his foundation paid a fine. Thats correct. Thank for making it clear, jeff. Lets talk about this. Im joined by cnn mark preston, and political reporter for the New York Times, alex berns. So mark, you heard what mr. Trump said in that sound bite that we played. Sure, i gave money to politicians all the time. So i could get what i want. He also said there is a difference being a payer versus player. In other words, it is okay to pay for favors, but it is not okay to be the politician receiving the money. Because politicians should be held to a higher standard. Is that logical in your mind . Well, it is interesting, going back about 18 months, and donald trump really made this a point during the republican primary. When he was on the debate stage with others, listen, i could buy you, or you were seeking a donation from me. You need my money. This is what i did to try to do business. I am a businessman, i am a businessman. That seemed to resonate during the primary. You fast forward, we talked yesterday about the cnn orc poll which had amazing and good findings for donald trump, one of those, who is more honest and trustworthy, and right now, donald trump, if you look at registered voters across the country, he has a 15 point advantage over Hillary Clinton, and this is driving democrats crazy, because they say that donald trump will say whatever he wants to say one day change his mind the next day and they dont understand why voters arent understanding that. Well, here is one reason why voters might not be understanding that, alex. Donald trump came out and said during the primary, look, i know the system is rigged. I played the system. Like, i took advantage of it. So you could say that donald trump has told the truth about his alleged wrongdoings. I think when people say in polls that they consider tr