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Offering two very different versions of what the men discussed. What the two president s, i think rightly focused on is how do we move forward. How do we move forward from here. Its not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreedupon resolution of that question between the two nations. So the question is, what do we do now . Translator President Trump said he heard putins very clear statements, that this is not true. And that the russian government did not interfere in the elections. And that he accept these statements. Thats all. And now, Vladimir Putin is commenting, giving his firsthand account about what the two men discussed. Lets talk about all of that right now. Cnn White House Correspondent sara murray is live for us in hamburg. Sarah, this only adds to the confusion, this doesnt offer any clarity. Putin is saying that it was discussed. That the u. S. , the russian meddling into u. S. Elections was discussed. But he says he denies that russia played a part and what did he say about how trump replied . Both sides in the meeting agreed that the election meddling was discussed. That they brought it up that they brought it up actually a number of times and had conversations about it. But where they disagree is whether trump is buying russias line that oh no, we didnt have anything to do with meddling in your election. Heres what russian president Vladimir Putin had to say about that today. Translator did trump degree with your position that russia had not intervened in the u. S. Elections . Well he let me repeat. He answered all the questions and i think that he noted it and he agreed with it. But i think its better to ask him exactly what you have asked, rather than me. So this is putins version of events that they denied any russian interference in the election and according to putin, he thinks that trump believed him that russia played no role in it. That runs counter to the evidence weve seen from the u. S. Intelligence agencies. While the American Press would love an opportunity to ask President Trump what his version of events is, so far its the russians who put two officials in front of the kwam ra, foreign minister Sergey Lavrov who was in that meeting and russian president Vladimir Putin to answer questions about that. President trump is slated to leave g20 soon. He is not expected to hold a press conference. You heard from secretary of state Rex Tillerson yesterday, but that briefing was also offcamera. So then, sara, is there still potentially an opportunity where trump might want to address firsthand, face to face with the press there, at least to assess how the entire g20 went for him, if not to at least punctuate his version of events, with putin . Well right now theres nothing scheduled in terms of president speaking to the press. There will be a small pool of reporters that will get on air force one with him when he does leave today. And of course thats an opportunity for him to come back and share his side of the story. What he took away from that meeting. What he took away from so many meetings. The Putin Meeting is just one sliver of the very important meetings he had. He was meeting putin for the first time. It was an opportunity to size each other up. But he also had a lot of important meetings with heads of japan, of south korea. Of the uk, as well as of china to talk about other vexing issues like what to do about north korea. About when they want to try to put more pressure on china to in turn put pressure on north korea. These are things we havent heard the president give his assessment of how he thinks those meetings went. What kind of progress he thinks was made on that front. Weve just heard kind of bits and snippets from him today at the beginning of these meetings as hes about to head into them. Sara murray in hamburg, germany, traveling with the president on the final day of the g20. Joining me is Senior International correspondent ivan watson. Live for us in moscow. Also with me, cnn Global Affairs analyst taste rhode. For the new yorker, National Security analyst steve hall, a retired c. I. A. Chief of russian operations, cnn political commentator David Swerdlick is an International Editor at the washington post. David, you first, Vladimir Putin i guess trying to get the final word on the sequence of that conversation with donald trump. How unusual will it be if donald trump himself doesnt take the opportunity right now, in the last day of hamburg, to give his version of events . Did he agree to what putin had to say or not . I think it is unusual, its part of you know, leadership is getting out making public statements, so it was strange yesterday that you know, secretary tillerson commented on the meeting, but no cameras were present. There was just this audio recording. Yet foreign minister lavrov was talking about this openly. I know the Trump Administration is skeptical of the press and complains about the coverage it receives from the American Press. But standing in front of a camera on Live Television allows a leader to express their views directly to the world public. Not just the american public. So its unusual hes not doing this. And David Swerdlick, why wouldnt the white house seize on this opportunity to get out in front of the message . Well fred, think there are two things, one is that President Trump at times has not wanted to take the questions that reporters have put to him in these press conferences. As opposed to just putting out the message or the prepared statements that they want to do out of these meetings or you know, these readouts after the fact. I think the other thing is that theres a gap right now between what President Trump said in poland, on tuesday, excuse me, on thursday, and the message coming from secretary tillerson today. Right . I mean secretary tillerson is saying President Trump confronted the russians, couple days ago President Trump was given his whole speech about well, maybe it was the russians, maybe it was other people and i think if this was a situation where this was president reagan and he had been very tough on the former soviet union and then had an amicable meeting with mikhail gore chbachevgorbachev, theyre still trying to sort through what exactly their message is. Both at home and to allies. Steve, is that why in part its difficult to know whose version of events is correct . Especially as you have the president of the United States preceding this meeting with putin, saying well it could be you know russia, it could have been some other countries. Undermining u. S. Intelligence. And now youve got these two different version of events of the actual conversation. Fred, i didnt understand why the president took the tack that he did. Hes indicated that hes a good negotiator and somehow fundamentally misunderstood that he went into this meeting with a real position of power. I dont know why the president didnt go into this meeting on transmit mode. Saying look you meddled with our elections, youve engaged in all sorts of behaviors that are not in keeping with membership in international society. So were not going to talk about anything that you guys want to talk about, until such time as those things are resolved. Instead what Rex Tillerson said was look, we had some differences and now wire moving on. Its a little bit Like Fighting with your teenager about whether they miss curfew or not. And then saying okay, lets go to the mall. Youre never going to agree. Theres never going to be any proof of this election meddling. This is classified information and the russians know that it was a missed opportunity in my view. Ivan, there in moscow when president putin says today let me repeat, he answered all the questions referring to trump, i think that he noted it and he agreed with it. But i think it is better to ask him what you have asked, rather than me. How is all of that being interpreted in moscow . Well the entire meeting is being celebrated basically by russian officialdom. Youve got senior lawmakers saying this was a breakthrough this oneonone meeting. You have state media saying hey, the facetoface bilateral between putin and trump eclipsed the entire g20 summit. Thats all anybody is really talking about. Some of the media have pointed out here that one of the things that russia really wanted, the lifting of sanctions that have been imposed on this country, since the 2014 invasion and annexation of crimea and more recent sanctionings that were imposed by the outgoing obama administration, seizing two russian diplomatic compounds in the u. S. , because of alleged meddling in the u. S. Election, that those sanctions have not been lifted. And yet, the, the meeting is again being welcomed here. And you know, Vladimir Putin, in that press conference that he just gave from hamburg, looked very, very comfortable, very happy to be up there. He was asked and there was a lot of laughter, he was asked whether russia would med until the upcoming german elections. And of course kind of batted that away. With a joke. But its a stark difference from what you see from the white house delegation, at that same meeting, which will not step out in front of the cameras. As this, as the summit winds down. Yes, so comfortable in fact by joking he also said its germany thats actually been poking around in our elections. So he didnt care that he was on german home soil by saying that. So absent here any talk as far as we know between the two men about consequences, but david rhode, this is another interesting moment about how Vladimir Putin actually described the demeanor of donald trump. Translator trump on tv is very, very different from the trump person that i saw. Absolute big difference. He is very good interlocutor, he understand things very quickly. He responds to the questions which arise and discuss, so on and so forth. So it seems to me that we will be able to build future relations on the kind of meeting that we had yesterday. We will be able to actually get to the level that we need. So david rhoad, is there some ulterior motive behind this kind of compliment . I think its classic diplomacy. Clearly hes praising President Trump. And saying these nice things, thats part of diplomacy. The thing to watch is what does the United States do in its russia policy. Does President Trump really believe this . And lets give him some credit. Maybe he realizes this is putin saying fawning things, but theres Critical Issues ahead. You know what is going to happen in syria. You know, what happens in ukraine. And again, this unresolved issue of hacking. So lets watch the policy here, not just the things that putin is saying. And david, David Swerdlick, i guess putin did imply you know that there will be more encounters between he and trump, whether its face to face, or whether on the phone. But he did seem a bit upbeat, if not optimistic about a new relationship being forged here. How meaningful is that . To go back to something that steve said a moment ago if the u. S. Missed an opportunity, i think the russians at least to a limited degree seized an opportunity to have president putin look like he had the equivalent stature of the president of the United States. Russia has been embarking for the last however many years on this you know, campaign to reassert itself as an equal power to the u. S. As to maybe to an extent, china. And taking over crimea, reinserting itself into the middle east. And even if they didnt getter in on sanctions, we dont know that. But lets say they didnt get anywhere on sanctions, they got this amicable meeting with the president of the United States. This forwardlooking thought that there are going to be future meetings. And on syria, this idea that were going to Work Together with them. As long as their sort of client state, the assad regime is still in place, they kind of got a small measured win out of this meeting. President trump says quote something has to be done about north korea. So what is that something . And will his past statements about china hinder trumps efforts to defuse the Ongoing Nuclear threat . Your joints. Or your digestion. So why wouldnt you take something for the most important part of you. Your brain. With an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain Health Supplement in drug stores nationwide. Prevagen. The name to remember. The syrian truce affects southwestern syria taking place in 24 hours. It was forged by President Trump and russian president Vladimir Putin at the g20 summit in germany. U. S. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson, who sat in on the discussions, saying quote, this is our first indication of the u. S. And russia being able to Work Together in syria end quote. Tillersons russian counterpart, sergei lavrov, saying the u. S. And russia promised to insure that all groups comply with the ceasefire end quote. Joining me now cnn Senior International diplomatic editor nic robertson. Nic, good to see new a windy hamburg. What can you tell us about this agreement on syria between the two countries . Yeah, fred whats real i had interesting, we just heard from president putin speaking about it. And you know, he really seemed to feel that the world had somehow missed a headline here about this ceasefire. He said its a big deal and he implied that no one had sort of picked up on this. But he also had language that was really fascinating. It went beyond what we heard from secretary tillerson yesterday, when he was explaining that conversation between President Trump and president putin. President putin believes that the United States has now arrived at a more pragmatic position. That was his word. Where they are, you know, in a position of pooling resources, he says it appears the United States has arrived at a more pragmatic position and its ready to pool resources in syria. In a common fight. And president putins mind, he seems to think that theres something even more substantive about the agreement around this ceasefire. Which is only in fact a tiny corner in southwestern syria. And when i talked to some Syrian Opposition figures about this, what they told me was that theyre not sure how its actually going to work. How is it going to be enforced . For them on the ground in syria, theres still a very big number of questions. But again listening to president putin talking about syria, just a few minutes ago, you get the sense that he really feels that he dominates that war and that conversation right now. And that hes in the driving seat. Shaping what happens next. North korea is also a big issue being discussed there. That bilateral meeting between President Trump and chinese president xi just concluded, we understand. Listen to what President Trump had to say just before that meeting got started. I appreciate the things that you have done relative to the very substantial problem that we all face in north korea. A problem that something has to be done about. And im sure that whether its on trade or whether its on north korea or any of the many things that well be discussing, we will come to a successful conclusion. As far as north korea is concerned, and i know that well have eventually success. It may take longer than id like. It may take longer than youd like. But there will be success in the end, one way or the other. There we heard President Trump talking about his promise, what his hopes are and when he said something has to be done and there may be eventual success, how might those things be measured . Well i think as well, this was very much the tone that we heard that came out of this meeting with president putin as well. That the tactics and the speed, the pace, may be entirely different from what russia wants, what the United States wants. And that seems to be coming out of that mighting with china, lets not forget, he went into the meeting with xi jinping last night after two b1b bombers did practice runs over the north korean peninsula, supported by two, supported by south korean f15 fighter jets and u. S. F16 fighter jets. When the b1b bombers left the area, they were escorted by japanese fighter aircraft. This is exactly the opposite of what president xi jinping had said should happen just a couple of days ago, that there should be a complete military deescalation. So i think the reality is that President Trump and president xi jinping are really seeing this from opposite ends of the spectrum. And there is not a coming together of minds and there is not a sort of a mutual trust on this at the moment. But obviously President Trump needs his support. All right. Nic, thanks so much. Lets bring in to the conversation two other members of our panel. On the u. S. china talks on north korea and the ceasefire in syria as well, david rhode, cnn Global Affairs analyst is

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