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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield February 10, 2018

Already facing criticism over his response to white house staff secretary rob porters departure, saying this just yesterday. He says hes innocent and i think you have to remember that. He said very strongly yesterday that hes innocent. So youll have to talk to him about that. But we absolutely wish him well. Did a very good job while he was at the white house. And yet another white house official resigning over Domestic Abuse allegations. David sorensen, a member of trumps speech writing team, is out, after his exwife alleged that he put cigarettes out on her and drove a car over her foot according to the washington post. Sorensen denies the accusations and says he was the victim during the marriage. Cnns ryan nobles is live for us at the white house. What more are you learning about the president s point of view . Fredricka, this is yet another example of the Trump Administration forced to deal with a crisis they seem unprepared for and simply did not expect. To have two prominent members of the administration forced to resign in the wake of a sexual or i should say Domestic Violence accusations is something that the white house just did not seem to have the tools to prepare for. And whats being criticized right now is the white house respon response. First of all, in the situation with rob porter, the staff secretary, that perhaps high levels of the administration did not act quickly enough to address this particular situation. In the vetting process. They either ignored or didnt pay close enough attention to the accusations against porter by his exwives. In the case of david sorensen, the speechwriter, they did act quickly. Sorensen offering up his resignation right away. What weve seen in both cases, the porter case and the sorensen case is no effort by the white house, any of the top Level Administration officials, and the president himself, to mention anything about the victims. Offer up condolences or thoughts for the victims. In both cases, the president appears to be doubling down and defending the former members of his administration, essentially giving them the benefit of the doubt as he did this morning in that tweet you showed. Fred, we should point out in david sorensens case, he offered up his resignation because he said he did not want to be a distraction to this white house, especially after what had happened with rob porter. He pushes back and claims that he is not guilty of any of these accusations that are leveled against him. He himself even claims to be the victim of Domestic Violence in this particular instance. Right now it appears in many ways, fred, the white house is flat footed when it comes to the response to this particular crisis. It is something, again, is going to be another cloud over this administration as they head into another big week with issues like daca, Immigration Reform and potentially a big infrastructure package in the offing, fred. Ryan nobles at the white house, thank you so much. Refusing to release the House Intelligence Committees democratic memo about whether the fbi overstepped or was biased in surveillance of Trump Campaign staff. The document is a rebuttal to the republican memo that the president said completely vindicated him in the russia investigation. The white house now says the democratic memo contains classified information and is sending it back to the House Intelligence Committee for changes. Trump tweeting this, the democrats sent a very political and long response memo which they knew because of sources and methods and more would have to be heavily redacted, whereupon they would blame the white house for lack of transparency. Told them to redo and send back in proper form. Details now. So cara, trump says he cant release this memo because the fbi and dodge have concerned about National Security but the fbi director chris wray expressed similar concerns over the republican memo, yet the president ignored rays grave concerns. So what is going on here . Well, fred, this is really just seems like its a bit of politics at play here. The memos all relate to the Foreign Surveillance courts decision to the permission to one of the campaigns foreign advisers. The republicans wanted to release their memo, 3 1 2 page memo, to suggest that there was political bias in obtaining permission to have surveillance from carter page. The democrats on the committee wanted to release their rebuttal. The republican memo was also objected to release by the fbi which said there were omissions that made it misleading. Now, the democrats have a unanimous vote by the House Committee to release their memo. There are indications that they do get into some additional details, which the fbi has concerns about. That might reveal sources and methods. Its interesting, though, that this time the president is saying that it goes too far. And hes sending it back to the house to see if they can work with Law Enforcement to figure out a way to redact it. If not, the house will have to decide if they bring it to a full vote and the entire house should decide if the memo should be released. Is there anything to the fact they could compromise National Security . The Intelligence Community believes it does. They think that even just the mere release of the limited information in here does go to sources and methods and could erode the trust that the u. S. Intelligence community has with foreign allies who, you know, will give the u. S. Information. They dont expect it because it is intelligence and it is secret to ever see the light of day. There are real concerns by the Intelligence Community that this is damaging. All right, kara scannell, thank you. My panel, joining me now is margaret, a White House Correspondent for bloomberg news. And lackland marday, a White House Reporter for the daily beast. Thanks to both of you for joining me right now. We get to the memo and the discrepancies about the release in a moment. First, margaret, you know, i want to talk to you about the president doubling down on his support of his Staff Members who resigned after Domestic Abuse allegations. Rob porter and david sorensen. And the president tweeting today. I mean, he spoke yesterday and then he follows it up with this tweet today. Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. Some are true, some are false. Some are old, some are new. Life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as due process. So, margaret, the president , you know, once again not making any mention of any support for the women, the accusers. Not talking directly about Domestic Violence. He didnt do that yesterday when he was in front of the cameras. He chooses instead to talk about those who are accused. And their lives being turned upside down. Is the president also indirectly making a reference to the accusers by omission, you know, by saying these are mere allegations . Is he belittling the seriousness of these allegations . Right. Of course it is important to have due process if youre talking about a criminal proceeding. But in this reporters case, theres photographic evidence. Which white house officials themselves found so moving and kind of unchallengeable that it tips the scales from whether or not they felt that mr. Porter could stay to a decision for him to go immediately, ill say immediately in quotes, because immediately followed at least several weeks, several months walkup. There is a difference between due process in Law Enforcement proceedings and how long you get to stay or whether you should get to be in a position as important as anything for any white house working for any president of either party. And particularly as job sensitive as somebody who is supposed to have top secret clearance handling red folders, handling really vital information, getting their own briefings on what the president heard and in his daily brief. There are considerations. And anyone who holds a position like that. About whether theyre vulnerable to blackmail, when this have good judgment and whether they send the sort of signal and image that a white house wants to project about some of the most powerful and important and sensitive positions in terms of, you know, the flow of power and the management of authority in the world, literally in the world. So lackland, you know, there are a lot of messages, arent there, being sent about the accusations, how the president is addressing them, how perhaps he didnt at first, you know, and this resignation of two, you know, key staffers also helps reveal the president s tendency to side with men who are accused of misconduct or abuse. I mean who can forget the Alabama Senate candidate roy moore and the president at the time, you know, he said he is innocent. The president kind of reiterated that vernacular again when talking about rob porter. He says he is innocent. Why does not the president take an opportunity to show some deference to these women accusers . Why does he not say outright Domestic Abuse is horrible, terrible, and its wrong, and these accusations are troubling . He hasnt used any of that language when addressing these latest issues. Well, its hard not to see a little bit of projection in what the president is saying because of course he has faced a number of allegations of Sexual Harassment and misconduct himself by people including one of his exwives. So once you establish the standard that an accuser in a case like this is to be believed by defaults which, you know, is what a lot of people would approach these types of questions saying, you know, he indianapol ipso facto lends credence to people accused of similar things. When you have the Republican Party out there bashing, for instance, democrats taking money from Harvey Weinstein and then it turns out the finance chair of the Republican National Committee Steve wynn has faced similar allegations. This is going to keep coming up precisely because the president left allegations against himself unaddressed and its simply untenable for him to express the position that women in cases like this are to be believed, period. That puts him in a very difficult spot. Margaret, he opens himself up, you know, to address. I mean, he has been able to avoid to a degree, right, by saying even though at first he was on access Hollywood Tape and then later, you know, he said the tape must have been doctored, im innocent, that hasnt happened either. But if he were to address these latest incidents involving his own white house staffers, is it your belief that his belief is he would then be opening the can of worms for answering questions about his own or allegations against him and his own admitted behavior . Its possible. That may be part of his consideration. But i think he and his aids also feel that that issue was pretty exhaustively litigated before the election and the American People voted for him and that he won the presidency election. But this is a matter certainly off t optics and the message it sends to americans across the political spectrum and thats why you saw the Vice President pence all the way over from the Olympic Games finally jump in himself and say theres zero tolerance for Domestic Violence. Im not convinced that played well with the president but its something the Vice President thought needed to happen. We have yet to hear the same input from both ivanka trump, the president s daughter, from melania trump, the president s wife who in their own ways, ivanka in particular, have positioned themselves as real advocates for womens rights. The president has put all of those people in his sphere in a difficult position because of the way he has chosen to handle this over the course of the last couple of days in these public remarks and the oval office spray yesterday and then on twitter this morning. And then quickly before i let you guys go, just going to change gears a little bit, with the discrepancies over the release of these, you know, memos that you know scrutinize the fbis involvement, whether it was overzealous or not, pinpointing, looking into the behavior of Trump Campaign advisers. I wander, lackland, you know, is this an issue of convenience or is it an issue of National Security . That this white house is reticent about releasing the democratic response but was quick to release the republican synopsis of things . I think its a legitimate concern on the part of the Law Enforcement and intelligence communities and, in fact, fbi director chris wray predicted this exact problem. And of course the republican memo a tempted to implicate the socalled steele dossier in the foreign Intelligence Surveillance warrant against carter page. They said that warrant would not have been sought without the steele dossier. Which of course contained all sorts of salacious and unverified allegations about President Trump. And the fbi said at the time that in order to provide the full picture of all of the evidence that went into making that decision, you would necessarily by definition need to get into sources and methods that we simply, we being the fbi, simply are not comfortable disclosing. So yes, it is a legitimate National Security concern. Its also one that was entirely foreseeable. And that illustrates the problems with releasing that republican memo in the first place and the omissions that i think were very consciously made, you know, on the part of chairman nunes and other republicans on the committee. Okay, but then, margaret, nunes, even the white house, justified this action as saying its about transparency. So if on one hand the argument is the democratic response is just too long, has too much information, is that not the transparency that the white house, that nunes, anybody else, was looking for . But now its not convenient or its not right . As the president said, theres no upside in giving the democrats what they want. What hes done now is basically present a challenge to his own party in congress. The last time we really saw this kind of, like, sort of standoff or one of the last times was over russia sanctions. As you remember back then, but this was months ago, the Republicanled Congress did pass those russian sanctions, kind of force the president s hands to sign it. I think the president s question is are they going to do that again or has he sort of successfully brought the republican majority in line behind him, this close to the primaries for the midterm elections . So the next step really is in the House Republicans court about what do they do . Do they help him or do they say, hey, we already voted to let this thing go, were going to make sure this in large form gets out. Thats where the debate lies now. All fascinating. All right, fascinating, confu confusi confusing, you know, really you just got to keep following all of it because, you know, i know this is also theres so much volume, its also confusing a lot of people so its important to have guests like you to help break down and remind and help tie it all together. Margaret talev, lakland markay, thank you, appreciate it. Still ahead, an historic picture, north korea south korea unite under one flag at the olympic ceremonies. And an invitation. Which would mean the first meeting of Korean Leaders in more than a decade as kim jongun extends an offer to the south korean president for a visit. daniel jacob for every hour that youre idling in your car, youre sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. 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